Do unrooted phones have better performance? Hear me out! - EVO 4G General

I'm running Fresh 0.5.3. If I understand correctly, it is working off of the version of code that does not include the latest OTA update.
So that means that my OS is kind of out of date, right? And since none of the rooted ROMs really have access to the latest OTA, then they are kind of out of date, right?
This is not meant to be a troll thread. Honest question from a n00b.

Not all of us are running Fresh.
My phone is rooted, and up to date.

^^ Which ROM incorporates the latest OTA?

Sprockethead said:
^^ Which ROM incorporates the latest OTA?
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The rooted latest OTA rom, i would give u the link but it's on the wiki which is down

I don't understand, I guess. I know that you can root your phone and install a custom ROM. You can root it whether or not your phone initially had the OTA applied or not. Once it is rooted, your have a finite number of choices. There is Fresh, DamageControl, whatever. But I thought that none of these had the OTA applied to their code? Since HTC hasn't released it. Am I wrong?
If so, could you please, even though I know it's annoying of me to ask, point me in the direction of the ROM that you are using?
Thanks.

Sprockethead said:
I don't understand, I guess. I know that you can root your phone and install a custom ROM. You can root it whether or not your phone initially had the OTA applied or not. Once it is rooted, your have a finite number of choices. There is Fresh, DamageControl, whatever. But I thought that none of these had the OTA applied to their code? Since HTC hasn't released it. Am I wrong?
If so, could you please, even though I know it's annoying of me to ask, point me in the direction of the ROM that you are using?
Thanks.
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SEE HERE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715915

I am using Baked Snack, and it is based off the newest OTA.

DamageControl is based off the latest OTA as well.

oOflyeyesOo said:
I am using Baked Snack, and it is based off the newest OTA.
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+1 /10char

I use the whitslack stock rom. Only real diff between mine and Sprint, is I have custom recovery & SU.

If you're running Fresh now just wait a little bit. Version 4 is about to be released according to Filpz' tweets.

most are based on the latest OTA, im runing OMJ 1.6

Would version 4 be going one step back since fresh is on version .53 I thought version 4 got skipped

im0rtalz said:
Would version 4 be going one step back since fresh is on version .53 I thought version 4 got skipped
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i think he meant six

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2.2 froyo question

Hey guys, just curious since I havent gotten a chance to use a rooted phone yet.
-When google comes out with 2.2 froyo update, are we able to update it from a rooted rom or does it have to be under stock condition?
+1. will be going from cyan to stock again when froyo comes out. but how?
You'd probably have to wait until someone post the stock rom of froyo, and then flash that.
Or flash on of the numerous stock ROMs that already exist, and get OTA like the rest of us.
Or wait for cyan for his release which I believe will be soon after the official release.
You will have to wait until either someone posts a stock 2.2 ROM that world with rooted phones or someone like cyanogen updates.
Once a different recovery is installed on the phone, the OTA system will never work again. Not even if you go back to stock.
This is a complete non issue. The stock 2.2 rom may very well be available to flash here before you recieve the ota if its a rolling release. If not it will be a close race. BTW, The ota looks for a stock officially signed recovery to install itself with, if you do not have one the ota will fail.
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+1. will be going from cyan to stock again when froyo comes out. but how?
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Just out of interest (I am not making any judgements), why do you want to go from CM to stock as opposed to a CM modded version of 2.2?
Or are you just assuming 2.2 will drop before CM has time to mod it so want to get on it asap?
ill just wait for cyano to release its froyo version...
I'd be willing to bet that the features present in 2.2 will reach a version of CM before they reach any non-rooted N1. I'm just saying... we already have some of the features currently, i.e. customizable trackball notifications.
that really just depends on when google pushes the sources of 2.2 into AOSP. so chances are that a stock 2.2 will be available sooner than a cyanogen 2.2, but it will be worth the wait
3Shirts said:
Just out of interest (I am not making any judgements), why do you want to go from CM to stock as opposed to a CM modded version of 2.2?
Or are you just assuming 2.2 will drop before CM has time to mod it so want to get on it asap?
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cos my battery life is absolutely shocking now, and things like stock weather program isn't working, cyan just watches LOST season 3 wtf lol
jamesyb0i said:
cos my battery life is absolutely shocking now, and things like stock weather program isn't working, cyan just watches LOST season 3 wtf lol
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well obviously you're not paying cyanogen enough to address it
walie said:
well obviously you're not paying cyanogen enough to address it
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bazinga!!!
he tasks me, he tasks me.
but naw switched to enom's for now, miss trackball unlock but allgud/ battery heaps better
PrawnPoBoy said:
You will have to wait until either someone posts a stock 2.2 ROM that world with rooted phones or someone like cyanogen updates.
Once a different recovery is installed on the phone, the OTA system will never work again. Not even if you go back to stock.
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That's not true. I did a warranty replacement a while back and restored the phone to stock before sending it back. I used the SAPPIMG.zip method to restore the shipping ROM, recovery, and radio. After rebooting and setting up the phone, I was offered the OTA update and the OTA completed successfully. Being bootloader unlocked did not affect my ability to get OTA updates.
A little confusion here it seems and I will throw out my understanding. An ota will work if it does not have to access an officially signed recovery, if it does and does not find one it will fail. Once you have installed a custom recovery going back to the stock one will not help in this regard because it is no longer officially signed. 2.2 will require an officially signed recovery to install and everything I read says it will be seen, it will download, then it will fail to install. If this is incorrect than I look forward to learning more about this question as it keeps popping up over and over. I have yet to hear from any owner who was able to update from 2.0 to 2.1 after having installed a custom recovery, seems like there would have been many....

Latest android-wifi-tether working on Stock 2.2 kernel

Just thought i'd pass along the latest experimental version(wireless_tether_2_0_5-pre7.apk) of android-wifi-tether now works with the stock 2.2 kernel. Specifically, I am running fresh 3.1.0.1.
Downloadable at http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/downloads/list
Should add that -pre7 does not work on netanarchy 3.7.7. Although -pre6 does.
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Can anybody else confirm this?
not working for me
Working for me on latest fresh rom.
I assume you mean stock but rooted?
Works for me. Rooted official 2.2 release.
porkbird said:
Works for me. Rooted official 2.2 release.
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Exact same for me. I'm back to my evo utopia with the wireless tether update last night.
Posting this on my laptop, wireless-tethered to my Evo using 2.0.5-pre7 with stock 2.2 kernel (Stock.32Kernel) and Fresh 3.1.0.1.
porkbird said:
Works for me. Rooted official 2.2 release.
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How did you get a rooted copy of the OTA 2.2 update?
techs1200 said:
How did you get a rooted copy of the OTA 2.2 update?
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You might want to visit the EVO developer's forum.
seankent4uf said:
You might want to visit the EVO developer's forum.
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I'm going to have to check this out. Have they found a way to root if people have already done the OTA 2.2 update?
pscalett said:
I'm going to have to check this out. Have they found a way to root if people have already done the OTA 2.2 update?
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Not yet. If you already have root, however, there are a lot of ROM options to choose from in the Developer's forum, including a stock 2.2 with updated radio and wimax.
Odd
Anyone else noticing it drops the connection to the device after about 15min?

[Q] Leaked update...help...

So i was following those announcements about the froyo official update leak, so I went ahead and downloaded it to my Epic 4G, now they are saying that Sprint announced that the leaked update is not approved and therefore shoukd not be downloaded, I want to unroot my phone, but will it unroot it back to the Eclair version successfully or am I going to have problems with the phone?. I've read about the one click rooting and unrooting, but is it really safe to do so?
Whoa... too much here to cover in a small space. Since this appears to be your first post I suggest you start reading. You have many options and with just about as many pitfalls.
Is your phone working ok? If so, why worry now. Wait for a future update.
tsp
monnie27 said:
So i was following those announcements about the froyo official update leak, so I went ahead and downloaded it to my Epic 4G, now they are saying that Sprint announced that the leaked update is not approved and therefore shoukd not be downloaded, I want to unroot my phone, but will it unroot it back to the Eclair version successfully or am I going to have problems with the phone?. I've read about the one click rooting and unrooting, but is it really safe to do so?
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Yeah it's my first post here, but i've been reading instructions on how to root and unroot. My phone is working perfectly fine with the leaked update. However, when Sprint releases the official update, will the rooted phones receive the announcememnt and will we be able to update it? lol
tsperez said:
Whoa... too much here to cover in a small space. Since this appears to be your first post I suggest you start reading. You have many options and with just about as many pitfalls.
Is your phone working ok? If so, why worry now. Wait for a future update.
tsp
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rooting your phone does not block official ota updates, flashing custom kernels and roms will. also if you do not delete any sprint apps (nascar, telenav) you should not have any problems upgrading to new updates ota.
All I did was install update.zip of sdcard on my phone nothing else. So is my phone rooted? I have no custom roms or anything just the installed dk28. I'm gonna be able to update ota with this installed right?
TorelliB said:
All I did was install update.zip of sdcard on my phone nothing else. So is my phone rooted? I have no custom roms or anything just the installed dk28. I'm gonna be able to update ota with this installed right?
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dk28 would be considered a non stock (ie custom) rom
no you will not get the update ota.
TorelliB said:
All I did was install update.zip of sdcard on my phone nothing else. So is my phone rooted? I have no custom roms or anything just the installed dk28. I'm gonna be able to update ota with this installed right?
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I doubt u are rooted .. you just flashed a new rom thats it. Rooted means you get "superuser" access.. and you can wreak havoc
hardrock121 said:
I doubt u are rooted .. you just flashed a new rom thats it. Rooted means you get "superuser" access.. and you can wreak havoc
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Lots of super fun havoc
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hardrock121 said:
I doubt u are rooted .. you just flashed a new rom thats it. Rooted means you get "superuser" access.. and you can wreak havoc
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so i did the same thing, downloaded the update.zip file, put it in my memory card and updated the phone using the recovery mode, so i'm not rooted just flashed, and wont be able to get the OTA update from Google?, btw im having a bit of troble with the GPS, when i enable it it say im abot 20 blocks away from my actual location, however, when i connect to a wireless network, per say my home network the location is right 0.o
other than that, the phone is working just fine

[Q] OTA GB vs leaked GB

Hi guys,
I am currently running the OTA GB version, and am kinda tired of some of the bugs (delay in camera flash, sometimes slow, etc). My question is: does the leaked, rooted version (.596) have the same issues that the OTA seem to have? Is it worth it to sbf and flash the leaked version, or is it a non-issue. I have no fears of sbf-ing and rooting, I just don't want to change the settings back to the way I want them more than I have to.
Thanks!
dianaraven said:
My question is: does the leaked, rooted version (.596) have the same issues that the OTA seem to have? Is it worth it to sbf and flash the leaked version
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Yes. And no, unless you want/need root.
You can get a custom rom on the leaked one. That could fix things
openbox9 said:
Yes. And no, unless you want/need root.
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*sigh* That's what I was afraid of. I guess for the time being, I will just deal with it and hope that Motorola finally listens us. Thanks guys.

Rooting and debloating Froyo

So froyo is leaked and installed and all is fun (seems to run a bit slower than 2.1 to me, especially during start up) but I have the problem of A TON of bloatware.
Anybody played around yet? I've frozen a few of them but unsure of what all is good and bad.
How about root? The newest version Z4Root does not work, it stalls and you have to force close it.
got a link to the 2.2 download?
filesonic.com/file/1597204534/Blur_Version.2.159.17.MB508.ATT.en.US.zip
this is the beta version that was leaked out. Go thru all the steps to get the free download, the waiting and blah blah blah.
boazjuggalo said:
How about root? The newest version Z4Root does not work, it stalls and you have to force close it.
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Have you by chance tried an older version?
pre4speed said:
filesonic.com/file/1597204534/Blur_Version.2.159.17.MB508.ATT.en.US.zip
this is the beta version that was leaked out. Go thru all the steps to get the free download, the waiting and blah blah blah.
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They have released the non-beta on the motorola site. the only issue is. that it won't install on a rooted phone so you have to undo your root first
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got a link to the 2.2 download?
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Hi!
Well, I made some post with the info that good people make available and that I collect to try to make it easy,in this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1211799
I already made the update since 2 days ago and very happy, in my case I found very usefull that at leats by now some usefull 2.2 tricks are very welcome like move some apps to sdcard and few other, but as new detail in my case the 2.2 update is detecting one of my 2 batteries as non original moto, and refuse to charge it, but in 2.1 it works perfect and could be charged...
So, for me is stable and hope that could be better the final release (if it may really happen, since Moto put down the page about the release.... :-/ so could be lucky that at least we have this beta, for possible future roms)
Best regards!
Froyo runs faster and it has a great file explorer built in. The only thing that sucks is that there is even more bloatware from AT&T
I have the phone unlocked and in Canada so my unlock stayed and unknown sources is still available after the upgrade
hope there are some edits soon they get rid of all the bloatware, there are legitimately 12 bloatware apps from AT&T on the phone now.
The interface is a little bit sleeker and the boot up of the phone is now silent, which i love since the old boot up was a bit to loud.
xaser, your guide is what I followed to do mine and I really apprecite your time to put it up. Worked great.
Somebody said the full update is up on moto, anybody got a link? I couldn't find anything.
No I have not tried an older version.
Anybody had any luck with a root on the beta? Or the full version either one?
Are we sure this "beta" isn't the full version? The Android Version in About Phone just says 2.2.2 instead of 2.2.2b like i'd expect with a beta.
boazjuggalo said:
xaser, your guide is what I followed to do mine and I really apprecite your time to put it up. Worked great.
Somebody said the full update is up on moto, anybody got a link? I couldn't find anything.
No I have not tried an older version.
Anybody had any luck with a root on the beta? Or the full version either one?
Are we sure this "beta" isn't the full version? The Android Version in About Phone just says 2.2.2 instead of 2.2.2b like i'd expect with a beta.
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Here is the official upgrade
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/utils/guided_assistant/g_id/1004
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Here is the official upgrade
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/utils/guided_assistant/g_id/1004
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Hm, won't show an update for me running 2.2 beta... guess i'm goign to have to flash back to 2.1
boazjuggalo said:
Hm, won't show an update for me running 2.2 beta... guess i'm goign to have to flash back to 2.1
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Could you tell me how to flash back to 2.1?
Thanks
sharethl said:
Could you tell me how to flash back to 2.1?
Thanks
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Use caution... I flashed back to 2.1 once by simply following the guide in the development forum again. But tried to do it again this morning and my phone bricked. So I had 50% success which is too little for me to suggest it.
boazjuggalo said:
Use caution... I flashed back to 2.1 once by simply following the guide in the development forum again. But tried to do it again this morning and my phone bricked. So I had 50% success which is too little for me to suggest it.
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I see, Thanks for your advise.
Why Motorola make the phone so un-opensource!!!
I know the only issue I had with reverting my Flipside was the RSD software, 4.9 wouldn't detect my phone but 4.5 worked perfectly fine
It's been a day so far and froyo is working perfect on mine
thebluetoothkid said:
I know the only issue I had with reverting my Flipside was the RSD software, 4.9 wouldn't detect my phone but 4.5 worked perfectly fine
It's been a day so far and froyo is working perfect on mine
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So have you tried to reflash? and as for rooting, have you been able to do so?
pre4speed said:
So have you tried to reflash? and as for rooting, have you been able to do so?
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I didn't need to reflash, I used RSD to downgrade. Since I had my phone rooted. then I just ran the official upgrade and it's been running like butter for me, real smooth.
I've searched all over for info on rooting froyo on the Flipside and it looks like it's going to take awhile because they locked the phone down tight and the few guys that have rooted the phone have started experiencing problems with the phone because of the root.
FYI:
SUPERONECLICK TO THE RESCUE!!!!!!!!!
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rignfool said:
FYI:
SUPERONECLICK TO THE RESCUE!!!!!!!!!
Sent from my MB508 using Tapatalk
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SUPERONECLICK can root froyo, I just tried, and working.
sharethl said:
SUPERONECLICK can root froyo, I just tried, and working.
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Which version of soc did you use? I have had problems rooting with it ever since I updated to the most current version, but I dont remember which version I used that worked fine. I ended up sideloading z4root to gain root, but from what im seeing, that wont work. thanks! Im almost ready to upgrade.
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Which version of soc did you use?
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I just successfully used the latest version, 2.1.1

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