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Do unrooted phones have better performance? Hear me out!

I'm running Fresh 0.5.3. If I understand correctly, it is working off of the version of code that does not include the latest OTA update.
So that means that my OS is kind of out of date, right? And since none of the rooted ROMs really have access to the latest OTA, then they are kind of out of date, right?
This is not meant to be a troll thread. Honest question from a n00b.

Not all of us are running Fresh.
My phone is rooted, and up to date.

^^ Which ROM incorporates the latest OTA?

Sprockethead said:
^^ Which ROM incorporates the latest OTA?
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The rooted latest OTA rom, i would give u the link but it's on the wiki which is down

I don't understand, I guess. I know that you can root your phone and install a custom ROM. You can root it whether or not your phone initially had the OTA applied or not. Once it is rooted, your have a finite number of choices. There is Fresh, DamageControl, whatever. But I thought that none of these had the OTA applied to their code? Since HTC hasn't released it. Am I wrong?
If so, could you please, even though I know it's annoying of me to ask, point me in the direction of the ROM that you are using?
Thanks.

Sprockethead said:
I don't understand, I guess. I know that you can root your phone and install a custom ROM. You can root it whether or not your phone initially had the OTA applied or not. Once it is rooted, your have a finite number of choices. There is Fresh, DamageControl, whatever. But I thought that none of these had the OTA applied to their code? Since HTC hasn't released it. Am I wrong?
If so, could you please, even though I know it's annoying of me to ask, point me in the direction of the ROM that you are using?
Thanks.
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SEE HERE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=715915

I am using Baked Snack, and it is based off the newest OTA.

DamageControl is based off the latest OTA as well.

oOflyeyesOo said:
I am using Baked Snack, and it is based off the newest OTA.
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+1 /10char

I use the whitslack stock rom. Only real diff between mine and Sprint, is I have custom recovery & SU.

If you're running Fresh now just wait a little bit. Version 4 is about to be released according to Filpz' tweets.

most are based on the latest OTA, im runing OMJ 1.6

Would version 4 be going one step back since fresh is on version .53 I thought version 4 got skipped

im0rtalz said:
Would version 4 be going one step back since fresh is on version .53 I thought version 4 got skipped
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i think he meant six

Rooting and debloating Froyo

So froyo is leaked and installed and all is fun (seems to run a bit slower than 2.1 to me, especially during start up) but I have the problem of A TON of bloatware.
Anybody played around yet? I've frozen a few of them but unsure of what all is good and bad.
How about root? The newest version Z4Root does not work, it stalls and you have to force close it.

got a link to the 2.2 download?

filesonic.com/file/1597204534/Blur_Version.2.159.17.MB508.ATT.en.US.zip
this is the beta version that was leaked out. Go thru all the steps to get the free download, the waiting and blah blah blah.

boazjuggalo said:
How about root? The newest version Z4Root does not work, it stalls and you have to force close it.
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Have you by chance tried an older version?

pre4speed said:
filesonic.com/file/1597204534/Blur_Version.2.159.17.MB508.ATT.en.US.zip
this is the beta version that was leaked out. Go thru all the steps to get the free download, the waiting and blah blah blah.
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They have released the non-beta on the motorola site. the only issue is. that it won't install on a rooted phone so you have to undo your root first

thebluetoothkid said:
got a link to the 2.2 download?
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Hi!
Well, I made some post with the info that good people make available and that I collect to try to make it easy,in this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1211799
I already made the update since 2 days ago and very happy, in my case I found very usefull that at leats by now some usefull 2.2 tricks are very welcome like move some apps to sdcard and few other, but as new detail in my case the 2.2 update is detecting one of my 2 batteries as non original moto, and refuse to charge it, but in 2.1 it works perfect and could be charged...
So, for me is stable and hope that could be better the final release (if it may really happen, since Moto put down the page about the release.... :-/ so could be lucky that at least we have this beta, for possible future roms)
Best regards!

Froyo runs faster and it has a great file explorer built in. The only thing that sucks is that there is even more bloatware from AT&T
I have the phone unlocked and in Canada so my unlock stayed and unknown sources is still available after the upgrade
hope there are some edits soon they get rid of all the bloatware, there are legitimately 12 bloatware apps from AT&T on the phone now.
The interface is a little bit sleeker and the boot up of the phone is now silent, which i love since the old boot up was a bit to loud.

xaser, your guide is what I followed to do mine and I really apprecite your time to put it up. Worked great.
Somebody said the full update is up on moto, anybody got a link? I couldn't find anything.
No I have not tried an older version.
Anybody had any luck with a root on the beta? Or the full version either one?
Are we sure this "beta" isn't the full version? The Android Version in About Phone just says 2.2.2 instead of 2.2.2b like i'd expect with a beta.

boazjuggalo said:
xaser, your guide is what I followed to do mine and I really apprecite your time to put it up. Worked great.
Somebody said the full update is up on moto, anybody got a link? I couldn't find anything.
No I have not tried an older version.
Anybody had any luck with a root on the beta? Or the full version either one?
Are we sure this "beta" isn't the full version? The Android Version in About Phone just says 2.2.2 instead of 2.2.2b like i'd expect with a beta.
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Here is the official upgrade
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/utils/guided_assistant/g_id/1004

thebluetoothkid said:
Here is the official upgrade
https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/utils/guided_assistant/g_id/1004
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Hm, won't show an update for me running 2.2 beta... guess i'm goign to have to flash back to 2.1

boazjuggalo said:
Hm, won't show an update for me running 2.2 beta... guess i'm goign to have to flash back to 2.1
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Could you tell me how to flash back to 2.1?
Thanks

sharethl said:
Could you tell me how to flash back to 2.1?
Thanks
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Use caution... I flashed back to 2.1 once by simply following the guide in the development forum again. But tried to do it again this morning and my phone bricked. So I had 50% success which is too little for me to suggest it.

boazjuggalo said:
Use caution... I flashed back to 2.1 once by simply following the guide in the development forum again. But tried to do it again this morning and my phone bricked. So I had 50% success which is too little for me to suggest it.
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I see, Thanks for your advise.
Why Motorola make the phone so un-opensource!!!

I know the only issue I had with reverting my Flipside was the RSD software, 4.9 wouldn't detect my phone but 4.5 worked perfectly fine
It's been a day so far and froyo is working perfect on mine

thebluetoothkid said:
I know the only issue I had with reverting my Flipside was the RSD software, 4.9 wouldn't detect my phone but 4.5 worked perfectly fine
It's been a day so far and froyo is working perfect on mine
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So have you tried to reflash? and as for rooting, have you been able to do so?

pre4speed said:
So have you tried to reflash? and as for rooting, have you been able to do so?
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I didn't need to reflash, I used RSD to downgrade. Since I had my phone rooted. then I just ran the official upgrade and it's been running like butter for me, real smooth.
I've searched all over for info on rooting froyo on the Flipside and it looks like it's going to take awhile because they locked the phone down tight and the few guys that have rooted the phone have started experiencing problems with the phone because of the root.

FYI:
SUPERONECLICK TO THE RESCUE!!!!!!!!!
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rignfool said:
FYI:
SUPERONECLICK TO THE RESCUE!!!!!!!!!
Sent from my MB508 using Tapatalk
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SUPERONECLICK can root froyo, I just tried, and working.

sharethl said:
SUPERONECLICK can root froyo, I just tried, and working.
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Which version of soc did you use? I have had problems rooting with it ever since I updated to the most current version, but I dont remember which version I used that worked fine. I ended up sideloading z4root to gain root, but from what im seeing, that wont work. thanks! Im almost ready to upgrade.

pre4speed said:
Which version of soc did you use?
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I just successfully used the latest version, 2.1.1

[ROM] [ZIP format] 2.11.605.0 Official Gingerbread for the ThunderBolt

First and foremost, credit goes to football for leaking RUU_Mecha_GINGERBREAD_S_VERIZON_WWE_2.11.605.0_Radio_0.01.78.0802w_3_NV_8K_1.41_9K_1.64_release_210841_signed.exe, here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1231680
This has been [FONT=&quot]tested and confirmed working[/FONT]. I am rooted and so far everything appears functioning as it should be.
I extract this using Process Monitor on Windows.
This is an untouched RUU, rename to PG05IMG.zip, transfer to root of your microSD, and flash in HBOOT.
[FONT=&quot]You can follow my tutorial here to restore Clockworkmod and (re)gain ROOT[/FONT]: http://themikmik.com/showthread.php...TC-Thunderbolt&p=106153&viewfull=1#post106153
[FONT=&quot]DOWNLOAD HERE http://depositfiles.com/files/gmzk4iktd
[/FONT]MD5: DAD61AEFC09E343F21600976A3DD4E79
SHA-1: C0AFDBAD5B3BFCD5DB25627760F6938E2E92B198

how do you know this will be official gb?

My Wife's phone is not rooted can I flash this on hers? so she gets GB sooner? Is this what is going to be loaded on her phone when ever it is officially released, and downloaded by the software upgrader?

justavillain said:
My Wife's phone is not rooted can I flash this on hers? so she gets GB sooner? Is this what is going to be loaded on her phone when ever it is officially released, and downloaded by the software upgrader?
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Yeah, it should work just fine. It'll update her's from Froyo to this Gingerbread build and when the official version is released by Verizon/HTC, she should not have any problems updating.

If I were to use this and decided to go back to MR2 would that be possible, or would I be stuck on gb till official release? I am unrooted running MR2
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jmc2543 said:
If I were to use this and decided to go back to MR2 would that be possible, or would I be stuck on gb till official release? I am unrooted running MR2
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Not sure... Anyone have an answer?
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I believe you would have to root to go back to an older version number.
Download link doesn't seem to be working.
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt

animez said:
I believe you would have to root to go back to an older version number.
Download link doesn't seem to be working.
Sent from my HTC Thunderbolt
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Hey. I just checked, the download link appears to be working a-ok. Could you retry? Thanks.

phooky said:
how do you know this will be official gb?
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Good question! I'm assuming the OP just means that it's "official" in that it was made by HTC and hasn't been modified. I haven't read anywhere else that the 2.11.605.0 release will be the OTA release.

Jacquestrapp said:
Good question! I'm assuming the OP just means that it's "official" in that it was made by HTC and hasn't been modified. I haven't read anywhere else that the 2.11.605.0 release will be the OTA release.
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Sorry about any confusion but that's correct. And I would like to add that it is not buggy like the test gingerbread build released back in May.

xstahsie said:
Sorry about any confusion but that's correct. And I would like to add that it is not buggy like the test gingerbread build released back in May.
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They will be termed "buggy" in my opinion until the VM notification is fixed. If you're using this phone in a business environment it's more "catastrophic" than "buggy".

Google Voice is a good alternative. Kinda glad this bug was in these builds cuz it got me using GV
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The voicemail app that is in this leak lets you know you have a voicemail when you open it. I just keep it on my home screenvand open it periodicallyv
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phooky said:
how do you know this will be official gb?
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Agree, How do we know this is the Official.. There is a lot of speculation data available I.E. Possible the 30th is the day etc. but a concrete answer would be helpful for your post.

A lot of people throw around the term official as a way of saying, an unadultered leak.

Will I lose S-off if I flash this?

xstahsie said:
Sorry about any confusion but that's correct. And I would like to add that it is not buggy like the test gingerbread build released back in May.
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I beg to differ. I've gotta bug (that could be the result of user error, but I don't think so) When I get a call, no one can hear me unless I'm on speaker or Bluetooth. I haven't seen any posts from anyone else with that issue, but it's been only since I flashed this leak.
Edit: I noticed someone else had the same prob on the previous build and wiping then reflashing fixed it. My 4g is working much better... Hopefully voice and sporadically missing texts are fixed too.
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How to root this build?
Jv
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I am downloading this now. Gonna give it spin this afternoon, while out drinking some micro brews. Will report back on it later

aftr I renamed the file and put it on my SD card went into hboot, and it says it is a invalid file

Merge just got 2.3.4 (build 3.05.573.1), Shift still on 2.3.3

I wonder if this Merge update has the same bugs our 2.3.3 Evo Shift update from Sprint has like the major problem with the Sense reloading. If not, I hope that Sprint will follow very soon if this update if it doesn't have any major bugs.
Any Sprint insider info out there on if the Shift will be getting this 2.3.4 version too??? Especially if it fixes the Sense reloading issue.

What you should do is root your phone ASAP and NOT accept any OTA from HTC/Sprint while you still can. If you want to run Sense there are many Sense based ROMs you can flash.
Instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1255360

Amen...
Ota go away!
Ota go away!

I will never again accept an ota update. That was the worst month and a half. The phone is running great now though. Try one of the sense based roms if you want to stick with sense.

im using the warm synergy and its great on my shift

Econ212 said:
Try one of the sense based roms if you want to stick with sense.
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And try Cyanogenmod 7 if you think sense is just shiney bloat.

Just say no to OTA's . When and IF the Shift gets another update hopefully people have learned their lesson. Don't accept OTA's. If your already rooted stay that way. Wait for updates to be worked on by the Dev's.

prboy1969 said:
Just say no to OTA's . When and IF the Shift gets another update hopefully people have learned their lesson. Don't accept OTA's. If your already rooted stay that way. Wait for updates to be worked on by the Dev's.
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+1 just ask the people that took the last OTA and suffered for a few months.
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Edit: don't want to confuse anyone so I edited my post
Sent from Gingerbread Speedy 4G

crump84 said:
Ota? What's an ota? I just got a message saying there's a update for my phone... Should I take it..?
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Sure but before you do please do us all a favor so we don't have to read thru 50 threads that you will start. DON'T ACCEPT ANY OTA'S TIL A DEV HAS LOOKED IT OVER AND SAYS IT'S SAFE!
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crump84 said:
Ota? What's an ota? I just got a message saying there's a update for my phone... Should I take it..?
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Yes definately . Then take it to Sprint , and complain to them about about how it unrooted your phone
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prboy1969 said:
Yes definately . Then take it to Sprint , and complain to them about about how it unrooted your phone
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Hah !
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Just an FYI:
The last time there was a major OTA update for the Shift, I posted a working, rooted version of the update within four hours of us getting the zip file. I'm pretty sure we had a rooted Gingerbread Sense ROM available before the official update was available OTA for most of you.
I have no idea why anyone with an interest in keeping root access would ever accept an OTA update from Sprint.

x99percent said:
Just an FYI:
The last time there was a major OTA update for the Shift, I posted a working, rooted version of the update within four hours of us getting the zip file. I'm pretty sure we had a rooted Gingerbread Sense ROM available before the official update was available OTA for most of you.
I have no idea why anyone with an interest in keeping root access would ever accept an OTA update from Sprint.
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Could not have been said any better

x99percent said:
Just an FYI:
The last time there was a major OTA update for the Shift, I posted a working, rooted version of the update within four hours of us getting the zip file. I'm pretty sure we had a rooted Gingerbread Sense ROM available before the official update was available OTA for most of you.
I have no idea why anyone with an interest in keeping root access would ever accept an OTA update from Sprint.
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Yes, many n00bz accepted the ota, but the largest group got a new phone, either upgraded or got a replacement, and it came with the ota. I had to take my phone back and that's what happened to me. With the help of otaking and scaryghoul, I got my root back, and I am now rocking miui thanks to you

[Q] official a500 OTA on leaked ICS ?

Has anyone running a leaked ICS received the official OTA update?

I want to know too.

I did not. So I flashed this file from cwm. Now I am on the new build, I can tell its not the leaked. http://narod.ru/disk/47240669001.db...f5b/Acer_AV041_A500_1.031.00_WW_GEN1.zip.html
Going to nvflash the unlocked bootloader, will post results.
EDIT
The flash was succesfull and cmw + android boots but to be honest I do not know what to do now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1522384
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Aaah, maybe I should try to root it, this method works fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1546593

terrormattie said:
I did not. So I flashed this file from cwm. Now I am on the new build, I can tell its not the leaked. http://narod.ru/disk/47240669001.db...f5b/Acer_AV041_A500_1.031.00_WW_GEN1.zip.html
Going to nvflash the unlocked bootloader, will post results.
EDIT
The flash was succesfull and cmw + android boots but to be honest I do not know what to do now.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1522384
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Aaah, maybe I should try to root it, this method works fine.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1546593
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I did the unrooted original ICS leak and now have no recovery to flash anything - anyone have the link for that?

OldGaf said:
Has anyone running a leaked ICS received the official OTA update?
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Anyone?

Im also on the leak build and want to go to the new one, every time i look for an update it tells me that im in a low coverage area move to a different area when im on full wifi. Im no rooted is there any way i can get the new build?

cheddaface said:
Im also on the leak build and want to go to the new one, every time i look for an update it tells me that im in a low coverage area move to a different area when im on full wifi. Im no rooted is there any way i can get the new build?
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I have asked someone to upload the ota update to one of my servers.
If they do i will post a link.

OldGaf said:
I have asked someone to upload the ota update to one of my servers.
If they do i will post a link.
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Stock acer recovery to flash it?

cheddaface said:
Stock acer recovery to flash it?
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Yes... I am also not rooted.

OldGaf said:
Yes... I am also not rooted.
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Well let me know plz

Same here. Stock recovery on leak ICS.
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Do you have this installed ?
Application (Iconia Tab Update Enhancement)
Acer2.2. 120307.31011.5 KB04/19/2012
http://support.acer.com/us/en/product/default.aspx?tab=1&modelId=3851

F2504x4 said:
Do you have this installed ?
Application (Iconia Tab Update Enhancement)
Acer2.2. 120307.31011.5 KB04/19/2012
http://support.acer.com/us/en/product/default.aspx?tab=1&modelId=3851
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Yep, been there, done that, installed, uninstalled, reinstalled.. checked for updates.. nothing.
Acer really should just post the files and manual update instructions so people can mirror the downloads and install..
Victoria, British Columbia, Canada
Acer_A500_7.014.14_COM_GEN1
No ICS Update.