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I don't know guys but.. I'm a HARDCORE Evo Fan.. And this battle is not even fair..
That was a bump for the Epic, not a comparison of the two.
looks like the evo got dissed. I'm gonna test drive the Samsung epic see how I like it
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I think I will also give the Epic a whirl. Just to see what the hype is about over the Hummingbird.
I was working with a guy today that had the AT&T Galaxy S. We compared phones, and we both decided that the EVO is better. The screen does look a little better on the Galaxy, but the .3" screen size is more of a noticeable difference than the screen itself.
Also, kickstand.
all the commercial made me want was a movie app, to rent/buy/watch movies! rwar come on netflix.
Wasn't really convincing.
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I like the wireless to the tv....but the epic (galaxy) is truly toy phone my boss has the galaxy and it feels like a toy....granted they have some kick butt features but I love my EVO but that processor its nice......oh so nice...hope they don't do the same thing to the Evo like they did to the hero(smh)
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I like the wireless to the tv....but the epic (galaxy) is truly toy phone my boss has the galaxy and it feels like a toy....
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I actually really, really, really want an Epic. Out of the Galaxy S phones, it has the most features. I guess I'm one of the few EVO owners that want a physical keyboard. I play emulators when I'm bored and I like typing with them (although I've learned to REALLY love swype). I also think the Epic is the best looking Galaxy S phone so far.
I don't see how you think it's a "toy" phone. Because of the weight? The Epic will be heavier than the other Galaxy S phones... and it's lighter because of the Super AMOLED screen. Other than that, it has most of the features, if not more than the EVO. And did you see it's benchmarks when overclocked to 1.2 Ghz? Holy **** balls....
The Epic is serious business. I can not wait But then... ya know... I'll have 2 phones. Weird....
Okay, the lady in the video states that the Epic can "video stream" and the EVO can not.
I've to TwonkyMedia Server on my phone and I stream to my Western Digital Live all the time. Isn't that the same thing???
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Okay, the lady in the video states that the Epic can "video stream" and the EVO can not.
I've to TwonkyMedia Server on my phone and I stream to my Western Digital Live all the time. Isn't that the same thing???
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Yeah, that's a marketing piece, talking up the things the new device has, it's one-sided as marketing stuff typically is.
You can add DLNA support to the EVO but you can't add HDMI out to the Epic so in reality that's a win for the EVO.
I'm a bit surprised Sprint is marketing the EPIC this way but I'm wondering if they just can't get enough of the EVO to meet demand so they are pushing the EPIC. Pure speculation though...
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Yeah, that's a marketing piece, talking up the things the new device has, it's one-sided as marketing stuff typically is.
You can add DLNA support to the EVO but you can't add HDMI out to the Epic so in reality that's a win for the EVO.
I'm a bit surprised Sprint is marketing the EPIC this way but I'm wondering if they just can't get enough of the EVO to meet demand so they are pushing the EPIC. Pure speculation though...
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Actually the Galaxy S will have HDMI via the Micro USB port http://pocketnow.com/tech-news/galaxy-s-can-do-hdmi-out-via-micro-usb-port-1
Meh, I'll stick with my Evo. Am sure the screen is nice, but I'm not a big movie watcher / game player so I wouldn't put it to good enough use. Evo screen looks more than fine for someone in my boat. Couldn't care less about physical KBs anymore, seeing as it is the year twenty-ten.
But there is that hummingbird in there ... anyways, two formidable phones available from Sprint; I see it as more playing of the two demographics. There sure are KB heavy phone users still out there, so I could see this being attractive for some. Get yo' wiz touched!
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Okay, the lady in the video states that the Epic can "video stream" and the EVO can not.
I've to TwonkyMedia Server on my phone and I stream to my Western Digital Live all the time. Isn't that the same thing???
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Its pretty much the same thing, but they got their dedicated software that comes with the phone, so people who don't want to search around.
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I wouldn't think it'd be a 720p out. I don't think USB can carry that much data. In fact...I'm pretty sure it can't because I couldn't use USB to upload videos off of my old MiniDV camera.
I will buy HTC over Samsung every hour of every day.
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You know... I read that article but forgot all about that. I wonder if anyone has tested this. $50 proprietary cable kinda hurts though.
As someone already mentioned I would be surprised if usb has the bandwidth to handle hdmi... they might just be using the usb connector (with an added pin or two) but not using the usb protocol to send the video out via hdmi.
By a show of hands how many people actually own a DLNA Tv?
Many of the people who compare the galaxy say it is not consistent with speed..its fast then sluggish..then fast..again, the support for evo is greater , touch wiz is ugly IMO.
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I used a Vibrant over the weekend while waiting on my replacement EVO. It was a nice phone, I'd love to have that screen quality on my EVO, and it consistently scrolled smoother (damn you FPS cap!) but I was still glad to be rid of it and back to my EVO. I do expect that most users would like a galaxy just as much. And if you want a full KB, the Epic should be a home run.
Everyones being hyping the evo shift and quite frankly im not all that impressed with it if it had a front facing camera and at least 1ghz processor i would have though of getting it. Ive seen verizons lineup and I was pretty blown away especially the motorola bionic dual core processor 2ghz what?!!! Hopefully sprint will get their act together and say ok guys we need to release the evo 2 stat!
I would say evo 2 to be out in summer just like the Evo did
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Maybe it will have some of this near it....
http://www.clear.com/blog/size-matters/
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We will probably see something at ctia, so it can look like the big draw of the show.
Probably won't be an Evo 2... but rather some other crappy name HTC puts on its phone. I wish they named their phones better. It would be better for them in a marketing point of view, cause all of their phones just seem so random (they create the pool of Android phones with random names and bad GPUs, lol).
Anyway, I love my Evo, just wish it was better in some areas (screen, camera, GPU)... and that's all I'm looking for in an upgrade.
CTIA is usually where Sprint shines.
who ever said we would get an evo2 in the first place?
Htc Sabor = Evo 2 ?
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I just want to say that you may not be impressed by the evo shift stats, but my girlfriend just got one and it runs way better than the evo.
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who ever said we would get an evo2 in the first place?
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Considering its the most successful smartphone in the history of the carrier... logic...
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I just want to say that you may not be impressed by the evo shift stats, but my girlfriend just got one and it runs way better than the evo.
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If anyone read any of the stats on the evo shift, they would clearly see it's better in every aspect (as long as you dont mind no Front facing cam, and 5mb rear cam). The 800mhz is wayyyyyyyy better than the 1ghz the evo has, has more updated software all the way around. So they made the screen smaller probably to accomodate for the added thickness of having a physical keyboard. You guys need to realize it's not all about the specs all the time.. HTC knew exactly what they were doing when they put out that phone.
There wont be a evo 2....there is supposed to be the htc sabor coming out that is going to be the upgrade of the evo....google it
^As far as I know the HTC Sabor isn't real. At least no one has said anything substantial about it, and certainly nothing has been confirmed (unless you read Ozcarguide........)
Anyway I'm expecting to hear something at ctia. Not expecting an "Evo 2" per se, but at least a top-notch smartphone for sprint to lead with in 2011
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Anyway I'm expecting to hear something at ctia. Not expecting an "Evo 2" per se, but at least a top-notch smartphone for sprint to lead with in 2011
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Imagine if it was the iPhone 5.
EricSS619 said:
I just want to say that you may not be impressed by the evo shift stats, but my girlfriend just got one and it runs way better than the evo.
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Considering you have held one and use it do you mind elaborating from your personal experience as to why it runs so much better? Thanks.
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Considering its the most successful smartphone in the history of the carrier... logic...
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it WAS... not anymore by any means. i wouldn't count on a evo2 coming. i did how ever hear sprint may be next in line for the iphone, makes sense now that verizon has it.
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Considering you have held one and use it do you mind elaborating from your personal experience as to why it runs so much better? Thanks.
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ive also read several reviews that say it out performs the evo. i still think the epic is faster than both phones with it's hummingbird cpu and better gpu capabilities.
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it WAS... not anymore by any means. i wouldn't count on a evo2 coming. i did how ever hear sprint may be next in line for the iphone, makes sense now that verizon has it.
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No, it still is.
Keep in mind we're talking about Sprint specifically and not all carriers.
The iPhone rumors are just that.
And yes, it's just logic that [due to no CDMA exclusivity] the iPhone will come to Sprint at some point [and all carriers]
But the fact is that Sprint is going to have the next generation of phones come out in summer.
They always do.
It's more important now..more than ever before.
And it would just be the silliest...most retarded business decision in the history of business decisions to NOT follow up the highest selling phone in carrier history with a phone that is updated.
Maybe it won't be HTC, but you bet it will be dual-core and the same basic size etc of the Evo.
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No, it still is.
Keep in mind we're talking about Sprint specifically and not all carriers.
The iPhone rumors are just that.
And yes, it's just logic that [due to no CDMA exclusivity] the iPhone will come to Sprint at some point [and all carriers]
But the fact is that Sprint is going to have the next generation of phones come out in summer.
They always do.
It's more important now..more than ever before.
And it would just be the silliest...most retarded business decision in the history of business decisions to NOT follow up the highest selling phone in carrier history with a phone that is updated.
Maybe it won't be HTC, but you bet it will be dual-core and the same basic size etc of the Evo.
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sprint is slow at updates and new hardware. im still banking on a new webos device being announced feb 9 and possibly an iphone by this summer. we shall see what else they have in addition to a new wp7 device.
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ive also read several reviews that say it out performs the evo. i still think the epic is faster than both phones with it's hummingbird cpu and better gpu capabilities.
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No, the Evo shift is actually slightly better than the Epic.
Although you're correct that the Evo Shift much improved over the Evo.
The Evo Shift IS better than the Evo, spec wise.
It has the updated core [top of the line til the tegra 2 series at CES]
It has a GPU 4x more powerful than the Evo's.
The core in the Evo Shift is 45 nm as opposed to 65nm [thus much better battery life with more power]
And, as I have said in the past, clock speed is irrelevant.
...much like the Pentium 4 3.06 ghz core is NOT faster than the i7 core that run at 2.53 GHz....
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sprint is slow at updates and new hardware. im still banking on a new webos device being announced feb 9 and possibly an iphone by this summer. we shall see what else they have in addition to a new wp7 device.
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Their updates generally come in the Summer... [Pre June 09, Evo June 10 etc]
This is "delayed" versus say Verizon who gets them shortly after CES.
But it's not the big deal that people try to play it off as.
Does the Evo 4G belong in the same category as the G1, the original Droid, and the Nexus One? Was it a game changer????
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Does the Evo 4G belong in the same category as the G1, the original Droid, and the Nexus One? Was it a game changer????
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It was the first of it's kind...
Definitely, the EVO was my introduction to android. Haven't been disappointed by it or envious of any other phone thus far...
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In all honesty, no...
Don't get me wrong, the EVO is a great phone but it was by no means "revolutionary"
The only revolutionary phones android has had thus far were the G1 and nexus one, the next revolutionary phone will be the dual cores..
The evo didn't add anything vital to android, although HDMI and front camera were nice additions they are by no means revolutionary.
Ummm YEA! First american phone to have video chat. I think the first 1ghz processor. and what was that other thing oh ya 4G (unless you live where it ain't, then not so revolutionary)
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I'm going to get flamed for this, but I feel as if the iPhone is the only phone (In the era of the touchscreen smartphone) that can be called revolutionary. There was nothing even remotely like it in existence. Without Apple's ingenuity in the first generation iPhone, we wouldn't even be talking about Android/WP7 in the same context as we are now.
PS. I love my Evo and I switched from 3 years of using the iPhone because of 4G and a front facing camera. Things that were not very common last year, but to me, these are more evolutionary changes as opposed to revolutionary.
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Does the Evo 4G belong in the same category as the G1, the original Droid, and the Nexus One? Was it a game changer????
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It sparked the advent of 4G phones, so yes.
The G1 introduced Android
The Droid made it famous
The Nexus one introduced sexiness and a 1ghz processor
The Evo introduced a 4.3 inch screen, HDMI, 4G, Front facing cam, and video chatting capabilities......
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I'm going to get flamed for this, but I feel as if the iPhone is the only phone (In the era of the touchscreen smartphone) that can be called revolutionary. There was nothing even remotely like it in existence. Without Apple's ingenuity in the first generation iPhone, we wouldn't even be talking about Android/WP7 in the same context as we are now.
PS. I love my Evo and I switched from 3 years of using the iPhone because of 4G and a front facing camera. Things that were not very common last year, but to me, these are more evolutionary changes as opposed to revolutionary.
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I would have to agree. Evolutionary yes. Maybe Revolutionary to sprint. This is the best phone sprint has ever had. Revolutionary would be a 3d projector phone with no glasses.
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I'm going to get flamed for this, but I feel as if the iPhone is the only phone (In the era of the touchscreen smartphone) that can be called revolutionary.
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Only because you asked for it (jk).
Chinese "clones" all the way! First FM tuners, first analog TV tuners, first DTV tuners, first out of the box dual boot, penta-band, quad sim and so on. If it will fit in a phone they put it in or make the phone bigger. If you think I'm joking, look here:
http://www.merimobiles.com/COOL_BPHONE_Linux_trackball_5_0_digital_TV_WIF_p/meri0254.htm
To bad these "clone" have horrible quality as a whole.
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Definitely, the EVO was my introduction to android. Haven't been disappointed by it or envious of any other phone thus far...
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I couldnt have said it better myself!
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The G1 introduced Android
The Droid made it famous
The Nexus one introduced sexiness and a 1ghz processor
The Evo introduced a 4.3 inch screen, HDMI, 4G, Front facing cam, and video chatting capabilities......
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the HD2 had a 4.3" screen first.
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Definitely, the EVO was my introduction to android. Haven't been disappointed by it or envious of any other phone thus far...
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same thing here... my last phone was a htc vogue that I never even knew could be modded until I got the evo and found xda
the evo definately broke new grounds.. all these new phones need to pay homage to the bringer.
The only thing that the EVO did first was psuedo 4G, every thing else was done by some other phone first. Revolutionary? No way. Really good featured phone? Yeah.
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The only thing that the EVO did first was psuedo 4G, every thing else was done by some other phone first. Revolutionary? No way. Really good featured phone? Yeah.
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How is it psuedo 4g? HSPA+ is psuedo 4g, Sprint is allowed to use the term 4g because there wasn't a standard when they started using it, but they ARE allowed to use it. I'll agree its not the fastest thing in the world or anything but still.
The iphone brought smartphones to the masses (even stupid people can use an iphone). The evo brought android to the masses.
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How is it psuedo 4g? HSPA+ is psuedo 4g, Sprint is allowed to use the term 4g because there wasn't a standard when they started using it, but they ARE allowed to use it. I'll agree its not the fastest thing in the world or anything but still.
The iphone brought smartphones to the masses (even stupid people can use an iphone). The evo brought android to the masses.
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I know that there was a change to what can be rightfully called 4g but Clear at its fastest still isn't faster than HSPA+ at its fastest. On top that, I was already pulling 4-5 Mbps on a non-HSPA+ phone on ATT HSPA during the summer before the EVO's launch. 4-10 Mbps really wasn't the giant leap I was expecting, especially since its use case was severely limited due to it's high power consumption and poor signal in buildings.
...and the EVO brought Android to the masses? Are you kidding? People still call my EVO a Droid.
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I know that there was a change to what can be rightfully called 4g but Clear at its fastest still isn't faster than HSPA+ at its fastest. On top that, I was already pulling 4-5 Mbps on a non-HSPA+ phone on ATT HSPA during the summer before the EVO's launch. 4-10 Mbps really wasn't the giant leap I was expecting, especially since its use case was severely limited due to it's high power consumption and poor signal in buildings.
...and the EVO brought Android to the masses? Are you kidding? People still call my EVO a Droid.
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Verizon made the public aware of Android by heavily commercializing the Droid line of phones. Therefore any Android you will have will be referred to as a Droid because the common public is dumb and believes anything that is hyped up.
nvius said:
I'm going to get flamed for this, but I feel as if the iPhone is the only phone (In the era of the touchscreen smartphone) that can be called revolutionary. There was nothing even remotely like it in existence. Without Apple's ingenuity in the first generation iPhone, we wouldn't even be talking about Android/WP7 in the same context as we are now.
PS. I love my Evo and I switched from 3 years of using the iPhone because of 4G and a front facing camera. Things that were not very common last year, but to me, these are more evolutionary changes as opposed to revolutionary.
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Nothing like it? Symbian/Blackberry/WM6.5 were nothing like it?
Only thing Apple did was make it more accessible to the public and gloss the **** out of it.
Not revolutionary.
nvius said:
I'm going to get flamed for this, but I feel as if the iPhone is the only phone (In the era of the touchscreen smartphone) that can be called revolutionary. There was nothing even remotely like it in existence. Without Apple's ingenuity in the first generation iPhone, we wouldn't even be talking about Android/WP7 in the same context as we are now.
PS. I love my Evo and I switched from 3 years of using the iPhone because of 4G and a front facing camera. Things that were not very common last year, but to me, these are more evolutionary changes as opposed to revolutionary.
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I agree and disagree, you see Apple/ mac is beyond great at marketing, but the only thing that Iphone did was put all those features in ONE device!!
I recall HP Ipaq (one with a rotating camera), and Motorola a1200 Ming for touch screen, Samsung had a motion sensor on a sprint flip phone, it was used to play a dice game. But there was no great marketing for the hp devices.
See Apple/Mac did creative marketing to make it feel like you HAVE to have one to be cool and trendy and if you own one you are part of the cool group, at least that is what I gather.
it's funny how Apple makes it seem like they are great, but industry wise Palm before the merger used to have along list of patents like no other. and some stuff is just great no matter how much or how little marketing is made.
take for example, during the auto bust when manufactures were loosing money one company grew by 18% it was an import and it was not Honda nor Toyota. it was Subaru, and the reason was that when a Subaru owner decides to buy another car, their next car is a Subaru.
Toyota has had a major recall/ car issue in the past few years, Honda i have not seen has not or has not had one that was in the media, Subaru has very few recalls. For me quality is very well at Subaru, and is the one manufacture that ALL their cars are on the iihs top safety picks for 2010, not just one.
Not saying that Honda, toyota and other imports make crap cars, and some may argue that Subaru style is lacking, and i may agree, i like functionality over form.
I am a minimalist but the Iphone is not for me.
Android is good, the Evo is my first introduction to android, and i agree with everyone it is a phone that has not me eyeballing other phone whatsoever. I am eagerly awaiting what Palm/HP has in store for mobile devices this year. and probably will jump back to webOS when 2.0 and the new device on spring comes out on sprint, if the specs are similar or better than Evo.
has anyone seen this? sprint is announcing the Echo and it has 2 screens!!! no word on anything else yet, but what does everyone think of it?
?!?!?!
Help us AOSP and S0be, you're our only hope
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has anyone seen this? sprint is announcing the Echo and it has 2 screens!!! no word on anything else yet, but what does everyone think of it?
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Second generation 1ghz Snapdragon. This is beyond underwhelming, but this is Sprint afterall...
- Too bulky.
- No 4G.
- Already hinted to have terrible battery life seeing as they give you an extra battery.
- Massive fragmentation problems. Very little will take advantage of the 2nd screen.
Basically their answering questions no one asked and ignoring the ones being asked with this.
Really hope they just choose the wrong horse for the "Big" announcement and we see some good phones at MWC.
Wow,what a let down!!
I am disappointed. I've been holding out on my upgrade to see this but I guess evo it is. This dual screen concept is nice, but app support isn't there, the processor is not powerful enough, and the spec sheet I saw said 1370 mah battery---hero has 1500??? And Kyocera??
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Great concept for a handheld console, all-around not so good for a cellphone.
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I am disappointed. I've been holding out on my upgrade to see this but I guess evo it is. This dual screen concept is nice, but app support isn't there, the processor is not powerful enough, and the spec sheet I saw said 1370 mah battery---hero has 1500??? And Kyocera??
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Yup totally agree major disappointment IMO. And koycera!!! Really that is a joke..
Something.About.Me.U.Dont.Like.
Its.Cool.I.Understand.AWAH
Kyocera lol that's funny.
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LMAO! This is worse than terrible... Total Fail!!!
Sprint and kyocera really missed the memo with this one. I mean, I'm all for innovation and the dual screen thing is neat but to release it among this new generation of dual core, 4g phones that every other company is coming out with? Really weak to say the least. I mean if they would have put dual core, 4g, and a fat battery, on it and then sold it, Sprint and ESPECIALLY Kyocera could have helped their reputation and it probably would have been received a lot better
They brought a knife (albeit a really cool bowie knife or something) to a gun fight.
Terrible let down...
Good thing Aosp knows how to make a hero faster than a sonofab****.
This was an "Industry First"? Maybe, if they're goal was to be the first to put a ton of hype into something, and all they got was laughter for their efforts
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Sprint and kyocera really missed the memo with this one. I mean, I'm all for innovation and the dual screen thing is neat but to release it among this new generation of dual core, 4g phones that every other company is coming out with? Really weak to say the least. I mean if they would have put dual core, 4g, and a fat battery, on it and then sold it, Sprint and ESPECIALLY Kyocera could have helped their reputation and it probably would have been received a lot better
They brought a knife (albeit a really cool bowie knife or something) to a gun fight.
Terrible let down...
Good thing Aosp knows how to make a hero faster than a sonofab****.
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Dual core wouldn't help this failure.
The Fer-Shiz-Nizzle said:
I am disappointed. I've been holding out on my upgrade to see this but I guess evo it is. This dual screen concept is nice, but app support isn't there, the processor is not powerful enough, and the spec sheet I saw said 1370 mah battery---hero has 1500??? And Kyocera??
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My thoughts exactly. I passed up the EVO, Epic, and Shift in hopes of them announcing something great but I'm sticking with my Hero for sure until at least April.
If Sprint gives us more crap like this at MWC, I'm leaving for either Verizon or Tmobile who I'm sure will give us something decent from there. I might even switch to ATT for the Atrix or Inspire 4g.
I also was disappointing. It seems like a really big gimmick. From what I have read, only a handful of apps are able to handle running dual screen.
And it's really underpowered. Read that the battery life will be around a day with "heavy" use, but that must be with both batteries. The display on my Hero right now is the biggest battery muncher. Can't imagine having it double.
yeah looking through what happened yestday... sprint let us all down with this underpowered kyrocera phone. only have one good feature......the two screens that it... well good job i say and back to the drawing board.
Video, I think its stupid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-hrK9fDXeic&feature=feedu
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I also was disappointing. It seems like a really big gimmick. From what I have read, only a handful of apps are able to handle running dual screen.
And it's really underpowered. Read that the battery life will be around a day with "heavy" use, but that must be with both batteries. The display on my Hero right now is the biggest battery muncher. Can't imagine having it double.
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Yep, basically this phone will have to run custom apps. And you can't have different apps on the screens.
This was a huge disappointment to me as well and I'm holding onto my hero until a worth while phone comes out. Also I wouldn't expect anything at MWC. Sprint will most likely announce upcoming phones at CTIA.
Buda76 said:
This was a huge disappointment to me as well and I'm holding onto my hero until a worth while phone comes out. Also I wouldn't expect anything at MWC. Sprint will most likely announce upcoming phones at CTIA.
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You sound like you just will hold onto it forever.
http://www.androidcentral.com/sprints-motorola-photon-4g-available-july-31-199-contract
I'm waiting on the SG2 but for all you Photon fans
Meh. I think it looks ugly and MOTOBLUR just makes it that much more undesirable.
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Meh. I think it looks ugly and MOTOBLUR just makes it that much more undesirable.
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The locked bootloader makes it undesirable.
They unlock that and we could possibly talk.
I'm not considering it but I do like it's angular design & the kickstand.
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The locked bootloader makes it undesirable
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Yeah that was something I forgot to mention.
Motorola Android phones on Verizon test well in battery life on anandtech.com. Hopefully this will be the same for their Sprint phones.
I'm probably going to save my upgrade for the next Nexus phone.
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Im a former DroidX and Droid 2 owner and as far as hardware, Moto does it right. Best battery life and radios of any other phones ive had. I think Moto will follow through and unlock bootloaders later this year. So ill be getting a Photon on launch day.
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Im a former DroidX and Droid 2 owner and as far as hardware, Moto does it right. Best battery life and radios of any other phones ive had. I think Moto will follow through and unlock bootloaders later this year. So ill be getting a Photon on launch day.
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Are you going to make a Rom for it once the bootloader is unlocked? Thinking about getting this phone.
I had the NS4G and really liked your rom, but had to return the phone because of the dropped calls.
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I heard they had no plans on opening / unlocking the Photon ... ?
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conqu1stador said:
I heard they had no plans on opening / unlocking the Photon ... ?
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Motorola pretty much said the same thing as HTC. They will be unlocking bootloaders later this year. But, Moto also said it will be up to the carrier. Im almost certain Sprint will go with unlocked...Not to mention the Atrix has been hacked and they now have unlocked bootloaders.
Yeah, I remember hearing Moto say as much but also remember seeing, 'somewhere', that the plans didn't include the Photon even though it was a 'future' device. If I remember where, I'd hunt it down. It might not have been official but I am certain it was a Moto statement. It was a while ago ... hope it isn't the case as I know some folks are pretty interested in the device.
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mquinn24 said:
Are you going to make a Rom for it once the bootloader is unlocked? Thinking about getting this phone.
I had the NS4G and really liked your rom, but had to return the phone because of the dropped calls.
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I had to return mine too :/ But I will get another soon. I will probably do something on the Photon, probably very basic though, i.e. debloat and maybe change a few of the awful blur/gb images lol.
mikeyinid said:
I had to return mine too :/ But I will get another soon. I will probably do something on the Photon, probably very basic though, i.e. debloat and maybe change a few of the awful blur/gb images lol.
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Sweet, that's all I ask for
Props to the SGII (if does make it stateside) but I think people are going to be pleasantly surprised with the Photon.
Immediate pro's I see are:
- better signal (not a given but Moto's track record suggests it might be)
- dedicated camera button like the the 3D (I know you can shortcut it from the
home screen but it's note the same as a hardware button)
- kickstand since I don't use a case and love to pop it out for the kids to watch
movies while we're out to eat
- accessories (like the car dock) and provided HDMI cable
- higher resolution screen means more screenspace
- world phone for the possible yearly trip abroad
Likely con's:
- motoblur although having given up HTC Sense I've found I like stock android
better with my aged hero
- non AMOLED screen (SGII evidently rocks)
- initial locked bootloader
- older Tegra 2 when Tegra 3 is evidently due out later this year and is 5x faster
Anxious to see how it stacks up head to head in testing with the 3D since spec wise that things a beast.
Also doesn't have the newer 800MHz band that Sprint is migrating to.. other FCC passed phones starting with the EVO 3D have this. They're supposed to start the migration at the end of the year. It'll be a long process, but it should help with coverage down the road.
spaulding-grandmaster said:
Sweet, that's all I ask for
Props to the SGII (if does make it stateside) but I think people are going to be pleasantly surprised with the Photon.
Immediate pro's I see are:
- better signal (not a given but Moto's track record suggests it might be)
- dedicated camera button like the the 3D (I know you can shortcut it from the
home screen but it's note the same as a hardware button)
- kickstand since I don't use a case and love to pop it out for the kids to watch
movies while we're out to eat
- accessories (like the car dock) and provided HDMI cable
- higher resolution screen means more screenspace
- world phone for the possible yearly trip abroad
Likely con's:
- motoblur although having given up HTC Sense I've found I like stock android
better with my aged hero
- non AMOLED screen (SGII evidently rocks)
- initial locked bootloader
- older Tegra 2 when Tegra 3 is evidently due out later this year and is 5x faster
Anxious to see how it stacks up head to head in testing with the 3D since spec wise that things a beast.
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Stock, the Photon should beat the 3D in all benchmarks, the Atrix does. And the screen is actually very nice on these new dual core Motos. Granted, its not samoled, but still nice none the less.
It's possible it won't, but this will likely have a Pentile display too, so it won't be quite as sharp as the EVO 3D's display.
I'm excited for the phone, but i don't want to wait for and upgrade, i guess ill just have to pony up the dough (im guessing around $600?) haha
The more I see about this phone the more I like it. Looks a lot like the EVO to me. More than the 3D does. The dock option is just wicked with the tablet like interface and USB ability. My phone is mostly for business so it has some better features for me. Would be nice to have a phone with better battery life without having to rely on extended battery.
I was going to wait for the SGS2 also but by the time it hits Sprint other devices will beat the pants off it as far as speed goes. Hear quad core processors are in the works for maybe even Q4 of this year.
Still on the fence about burning my upgrade.
jreuschl said:
Also doesn't have the newer 800MHz band that Sprint is migrating to.. other FCC passed phones starting with the EVO 3D have this. They're supposed to start the migration at the end of the year. It'll be a long process, but it should help with coverage down the road.
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So what is the 800Mhz listed here?
Bands/Modes
WiMAX 2.5, WCDMA 850/1900/2100, CDMA 800/1900, GSM 850/900/1900, CDMA EV-DO Release A, EDGE Class 12, GPRS Class 12
taken from http://mediacenter.motorola.com/Fact-Sheets/Motorola-PHOTON-4G-Fact-Sheet-36f3.aspx
CCallahan said:
The more I see about this phone the more I like it. Looks a lot like the EVO to me. More than the 3D does. The dock option is just wicked with the tablet like interface and USB ability. My phone is mostly for business so it has some better features for me. Would be nice to have a phone with better battery life without having to rely on extended battery.
I was going to wait for the SGS2 also but by the time it hits Sprint other devices will beat the pants off it as far as speed goes. Hear quad core processors are in the works for maybe even Q4 of this year.
Still on the fence about burning my upgrade.
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I agree. With quad cores possibly coming out late this year and the rumors of the Nexus Prime, really hate to get a Tegra 2 based phone. Then again, any technology buy is going to be dated the moment it's in your hands and thus as long as it does what I want it for which for me appears the Photon just might, it's probably better to get a phone sooner rather than later so that the upgrade timer becomes eligible again sooner