Does the Evo 4G belong in the same category as the G1, the original Droid, and the Nexus One? Was it a game changer????
jm5503 said:
Does the Evo 4G belong in the same category as the G1, the original Droid, and the Nexus One? Was it a game changer????
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It was the first of it's kind...
Definitely, the EVO was my introduction to android. Haven't been disappointed by it or envious of any other phone thus far...
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In all honesty, no...
Don't get me wrong, the EVO is a great phone but it was by no means "revolutionary"
The only revolutionary phones android has had thus far were the G1 and nexus one, the next revolutionary phone will be the dual cores..
The evo didn't add anything vital to android, although HDMI and front camera were nice additions they are by no means revolutionary.
Ummm YEA! First american phone to have video chat. I think the first 1ghz processor. and what was that other thing oh ya 4G (unless you live where it ain't, then not so revolutionary)
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I'm going to get flamed for this, but I feel as if the iPhone is the only phone (In the era of the touchscreen smartphone) that can be called revolutionary. There was nothing even remotely like it in existence. Without Apple's ingenuity in the first generation iPhone, we wouldn't even be talking about Android/WP7 in the same context as we are now.
PS. I love my Evo and I switched from 3 years of using the iPhone because of 4G and a front facing camera. Things that were not very common last year, but to me, these are more evolutionary changes as opposed to revolutionary.
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Does the Evo 4G belong in the same category as the G1, the original Droid, and the Nexus One? Was it a game changer????
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It sparked the advent of 4G phones, so yes.
The G1 introduced Android
The Droid made it famous
The Nexus one introduced sexiness and a 1ghz processor
The Evo introduced a 4.3 inch screen, HDMI, 4G, Front facing cam, and video chatting capabilities......
nvius said:
I'm going to get flamed for this, but I feel as if the iPhone is the only phone (In the era of the touchscreen smartphone) that can be called revolutionary. There was nothing even remotely like it in existence. Without Apple's ingenuity in the first generation iPhone, we wouldn't even be talking about Android/WP7 in the same context as we are now.
PS. I love my Evo and I switched from 3 years of using the iPhone because of 4G and a front facing camera. Things that were not very common last year, but to me, these are more evolutionary changes as opposed to revolutionary.
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I would have to agree. Evolutionary yes. Maybe Revolutionary to sprint. This is the best phone sprint has ever had. Revolutionary would be a 3d projector phone with no glasses.
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I'm going to get flamed for this, but I feel as if the iPhone is the only phone (In the era of the touchscreen smartphone) that can be called revolutionary.
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Only because you asked for it (jk).
Chinese "clones" all the way! First FM tuners, first analog TV tuners, first DTV tuners, first out of the box dual boot, penta-band, quad sim and so on. If it will fit in a phone they put it in or make the phone bigger. If you think I'm joking, look here:
http://www.merimobiles.com/COOL_BPHONE_Linux_trackball_5_0_digital_TV_WIF_p/meri0254.htm
To bad these "clone" have horrible quality as a whole.
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Definitely, the EVO was my introduction to android. Haven't been disappointed by it or envious of any other phone thus far...
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I couldnt have said it better myself!
jm5503 said:
The G1 introduced Android
The Droid made it famous
The Nexus one introduced sexiness and a 1ghz processor
The Evo introduced a 4.3 inch screen, HDMI, 4G, Front facing cam, and video chatting capabilities......
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the HD2 had a 4.3" screen first.
ATownI20 said:
Definitely, the EVO was my introduction to android. Haven't been disappointed by it or envious of any other phone thus far...
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same thing here... my last phone was a htc vogue that I never even knew could be modded until I got the evo and found xda
the evo definately broke new grounds.. all these new phones need to pay homage to the bringer.
The only thing that the EVO did first was psuedo 4G, every thing else was done by some other phone first. Revolutionary? No way. Really good featured phone? Yeah.
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The only thing that the EVO did first was psuedo 4G, every thing else was done by some other phone first. Revolutionary? No way. Really good featured phone? Yeah.
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How is it psuedo 4g? HSPA+ is psuedo 4g, Sprint is allowed to use the term 4g because there wasn't a standard when they started using it, but they ARE allowed to use it. I'll agree its not the fastest thing in the world or anything but still.
The iphone brought smartphones to the masses (even stupid people can use an iphone). The evo brought android to the masses.
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How is it psuedo 4g? HSPA+ is psuedo 4g, Sprint is allowed to use the term 4g because there wasn't a standard when they started using it, but they ARE allowed to use it. I'll agree its not the fastest thing in the world or anything but still.
The iphone brought smartphones to the masses (even stupid people can use an iphone). The evo brought android to the masses.
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I know that there was a change to what can be rightfully called 4g but Clear at its fastest still isn't faster than HSPA+ at its fastest. On top that, I was already pulling 4-5 Mbps on a non-HSPA+ phone on ATT HSPA during the summer before the EVO's launch. 4-10 Mbps really wasn't the giant leap I was expecting, especially since its use case was severely limited due to it's high power consumption and poor signal in buildings.
...and the EVO brought Android to the masses? Are you kidding? People still call my EVO a Droid.
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I know that there was a change to what can be rightfully called 4g but Clear at its fastest still isn't faster than HSPA+ at its fastest. On top that, I was already pulling 4-5 Mbps on a non-HSPA+ phone on ATT HSPA during the summer before the EVO's launch. 4-10 Mbps really wasn't the giant leap I was expecting, especially since its use case was severely limited due to it's high power consumption and poor signal in buildings.
...and the EVO brought Android to the masses? Are you kidding? People still call my EVO a Droid.
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Verizon made the public aware of Android by heavily commercializing the Droid line of phones. Therefore any Android you will have will be referred to as a Droid because the common public is dumb and believes anything that is hyped up.
nvius said:
I'm going to get flamed for this, but I feel as if the iPhone is the only phone (In the era of the touchscreen smartphone) that can be called revolutionary. There was nothing even remotely like it in existence. Without Apple's ingenuity in the first generation iPhone, we wouldn't even be talking about Android/WP7 in the same context as we are now.
PS. I love my Evo and I switched from 3 years of using the iPhone because of 4G and a front facing camera. Things that were not very common last year, but to me, these are more evolutionary changes as opposed to revolutionary.
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Nothing like it? Symbian/Blackberry/WM6.5 were nothing like it?
Only thing Apple did was make it more accessible to the public and gloss the **** out of it.
Not revolutionary.
nvius said:
I'm going to get flamed for this, but I feel as if the iPhone is the only phone (In the era of the touchscreen smartphone) that can be called revolutionary. There was nothing even remotely like it in existence. Without Apple's ingenuity in the first generation iPhone, we wouldn't even be talking about Android/WP7 in the same context as we are now.
PS. I love my Evo and I switched from 3 years of using the iPhone because of 4G and a front facing camera. Things that were not very common last year, but to me, these are more evolutionary changes as opposed to revolutionary.
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I agree and disagree, you see Apple/ mac is beyond great at marketing, but the only thing that Iphone did was put all those features in ONE device!!
I recall HP Ipaq (one with a rotating camera), and Motorola a1200 Ming for touch screen, Samsung had a motion sensor on a sprint flip phone, it was used to play a dice game. But there was no great marketing for the hp devices.
See Apple/Mac did creative marketing to make it feel like you HAVE to have one to be cool and trendy and if you own one you are part of the cool group, at least that is what I gather.
it's funny how Apple makes it seem like they are great, but industry wise Palm before the merger used to have along list of patents like no other. and some stuff is just great no matter how much or how little marketing is made.
take for example, during the auto bust when manufactures were loosing money one company grew by 18% it was an import and it was not Honda nor Toyota. it was Subaru, and the reason was that when a Subaru owner decides to buy another car, their next car is a Subaru.
Toyota has had a major recall/ car issue in the past few years, Honda i have not seen has not or has not had one that was in the media, Subaru has very few recalls. For me quality is very well at Subaru, and is the one manufacture that ALL their cars are on the iihs top safety picks for 2010, not just one.
Not saying that Honda, toyota and other imports make crap cars, and some may argue that Subaru style is lacking, and i may agree, i like functionality over form.
I am a minimalist but the Iphone is not for me.
Android is good, the Evo is my first introduction to android, and i agree with everyone it is a phone that has not me eyeballing other phone whatsoever. I am eagerly awaiting what Palm/HP has in store for mobile devices this year. and probably will jump back to webOS when 2.0 and the new device on spring comes out on sprint, if the specs are similar or better than Evo.
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Don't get me wrong, I love my Evo, but seeing all these new Android phones just revealed makes it feel like the Evo is getting quickly outdated. The specs on all these new phones seem so much better than the Evo. Kind of sucks no longer being one of the best Android phones with the biggest screen. Nexus S, Droid Bionic, whatever other new phones there are, all with better specs than the Evo now...
That's technology for you.
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Don't get me wrong, I love my Evo, but seeing all these new Android phones just revealed makes it feel like the Evo is getting quickly outdated. The specs on all these new phones seem so much better than the Evo. Kind of sucks no longer being one of the best Android phones with the biggest screen. Nexus S, Droid Bionic, whatever other new phones there are, all with better specs than the Evo now...
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Smartphones now are what computers used to be in terms of getting outdated.
Technically speaking computers are still outdated by time they come out or 6 months after but for people like me the improvements aren't enough to make want to switch. Personally I'm happy to upgrade my computer every three years.
However, I remember when the advancements in computers was such that I felt the way you do now about the Evo.
But look at it this way. Phones have a long way to go before we'll probably be happy to keep what we have for a few years. Plus upgrading phones is cheaper than computers or most computers anyway.
The Evo still has and probably will maintain a strong fan base and development community for a while so don't worry.
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Yup New technology comes out every 6 months
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That's how it will always be. Actually though, I was really excited that they're stepping up so quickly. It will make it harder for Apple to keep up, which leads to more high quality development for Android.
evo was dated the day it was released lol sad
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Don't get me wrong, I love my Evo, but seeing all these new Android phones just revealed makes it feel like the Evo is getting quickly outdated. The specs on all these new phones seem so much better than the Evo. Kind of sucks no longer being one of the best Android phones with the biggest screen. Nexus S, Droid Bionic, whatever other new phones there are, all with better specs than the Evo now...
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So go get the thunderbolt and have fun for the next 20 months...
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Please explain what feature or features are missing from the Evo! Im not sure what more could be asked from a smart phone. Most of the new phones coming out just have sales pitch stats. Just like the HDMI out is on the Evo. I know alot of people with the Evo and not a single one has or ever will use the feature.
Just my 2 cents.
P.S. Android will always be pushed to have higher specs to improve performance when all that is needed would be Hardware acceleration.
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Jason
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There are two types of phones, experimental and obsolete.
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Just remember what phone started all this.
give the evo some credit for effing sakes, sheesh
i can whip out my evo in public and i still get people questioning me.. sure, us enthusiasts think the phone is outdated but theres millions of people that would be in awe of such a pwerful big screen phone the evo is.
but thats technology. once they see we're willing to give up dollars for a 6month upgrade, then the manufacturers and cell providers will start dishing them out.
that time is now.. and the mobile market will now be much more competitive and will bring on more and better technology so we can CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME.
technically the evo is outdated. it's beyond 6 months old now. trust me as im already looking into my next phone.
danman132x said:
Don't get me wrong, I love my Evo, but seeing all these new Android phones just revealed makes it feel like the Evo is getting quickly outdated. The specs on all these new phones seem so much better than the Evo. Kind of sucks no longer being one of the best Android phones with the biggest screen. Nexus S, Droid Bionic, whatever other new phones there are, all with better specs than the Evo now...
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The HTC Thunderbolt won't be released until the end of March, and it's only improvements over the EVO are an SLCD screen and a marginally faster processor. Considering the EVO will be 9 months old in March, I'm not too upset.
I was upset, however, when I purchased the Hero in Oct. 2009 and a month later the original Droid was released. For comparison proposes, the Hero was 9 months old when the EVO was released and the EVO was a big step up from the Hero, whereas the Thunderbolt is only a marginal improvement.
Therefore, you shouldn't be so down and out about these upcoming phones. Most won't be released until the summer, anyway.
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Just remember what phone started all this.
give the evo some cedit for effing sakes, sheesh
i can whip out my evo in public and i still get people questioning me.. sure, us enthusiasts think the phone is outdated but theres millions of people that would be in awe of such a pwerful big screen phone the evo is.
but thats technology. once they see we're willing to give up dollars for a 6month upgrade, then the manufacturers and cell providers will start dishing them out.
that time is now.. and the mobile market will now be much more competitive and will bring on more and better technology so we can CONSUME CONSUME CONSUME.
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Well said. And with the poster earlier, I agree it looks like smart phones are following in the steps of computers. Technology comes out so fast for them it's unbelievable, but I will be plenty happy with my Evo for a time to come. It's plenty fast for me. Same with my Laptop, about 2 years old now, but still works great, and why get rid of something that has no problems. It's just human desire to have the latest and greatest, but I'll live with it now. I got my Evo in November, plenty of time after it came out, and it is a HUGE step up from my Hero. It will have the power to do what I want with it, plus experimenting with it and always updating ROM's etc keeps it plenty fresh for me.
danman132x said:
Don't get me wrong, I love my Evo, but seeing all these new Android phones just revealed makes it feel like the Evo is getting quickly outdated. The specs on all these new phones seem so much better than the Evo. Kind of sucks no longer being one of the best Android phones with the biggest screen. Nexus S, Droid Bionic, whatever other new phones there are, all with better specs than the Evo now...
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Welcome to the 21st Century.
When the EVO was available for retail it was already outdated. You are not a slave to the phone. There will always be choices.
I think I'm going to hold on to my evo until android rolls out a full hardware acceleration version..
Some people are never satisfied.
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Technology moves fast and I generally keep pace with it. Thats the main reason I said I know im not going to have this evo much longer. If I have to switch carriers so be it.
Technology will always outdate itself after a little bit, but in terms of the new specs coming out, they aren't as rEVOlutionary (I love that little pun there) as the Evo/Incredible release of last June. Before those phones, people only dreamed of Nexus 1-style phones. Then the Evo and the Incredible came out and blew the market away. The Evo especially. Huge screen, 1Ghz processor, ffc, kickstand, a good amount of ram. We're going to get Gingerbread for sure.
So when you look at it, the phones coming out aren't as much better than the Evo as the Evo was to it's competition last June. I mean there were 512Mhz phones and THAT was the biggest phone. The Evo is twice that. The phones coming out now aren't twice the Evo.
Relax, you're phone is still high end and it'll be a long time before the Evo will be considered "mid range". That's why I bought one in January, because I know I'll still have it next January (unless something ridiculous happens, like I get rich and can afford every phone on Sprint).
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Technology will always outdate itself after a little bit, but in terms of the new specs coming out, they aren't as rEVOlutionary (I love that little pun there) as the Evo/Incredible release of last June. Before those phones, people only dreamed of Nexus 1-style phones. Then the Evo and the Incredible came out and blew the market away. The Evo especially. Huge screen, 1Ghz processor, ffc, kickstand, a good amount of ram. We're going to get Gingerbread for sure.
So when you look at it, the phones coming out aren't as much better than the Evo as the Evo was to it's competition last June. I mean there were 512Mhz phones and THAT was the biggest phone. The Evo is twice that. The phones coming out now aren't twice the Evo.
Relax, you're phone is still high end and it'll be a long time before the Evo will be considered "mid range". That's why I bought one in January, because I know I'll still have it next January (unless something ridiculous happens, like I get rich and can afford every phone on Sprint).
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Yea but how revolutionary it was in June of last year doesnt really mean much to a gadget freak like myself.
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I mean there were 512Mhz phones and THAT was the biggest phone. The Evo is twice that. The phones coming out now aren't twice the Evo..
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The EVO came out months after the first 1 GHz phones (HD2, N1, Incredible, etc.).
Re: these new phone:
A single Cortex A9 core is about 25% faster than an A8, now add a second core. Then add the fact that the GPU is somewhere around 4x better. Then add 2x the RAM. Then add 35% more pixels on the display. Than add 16x more internal storage. Then add 25% more battery. That's what the Atrix is compared to the EVO. It's indisputably next gen and gaps it by a ton.
Everyones being hyping the evo shift and quite frankly im not all that impressed with it if it had a front facing camera and at least 1ghz processor i would have though of getting it. Ive seen verizons lineup and I was pretty blown away especially the motorola bionic dual core processor 2ghz what?!!! Hopefully sprint will get their act together and say ok guys we need to release the evo 2 stat!
I would say evo 2 to be out in summer just like the Evo did
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Maybe it will have some of this near it....
http://www.clear.com/blog/size-matters/
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We will probably see something at ctia, so it can look like the big draw of the show.
Probably won't be an Evo 2... but rather some other crappy name HTC puts on its phone. I wish they named their phones better. It would be better for them in a marketing point of view, cause all of their phones just seem so random (they create the pool of Android phones with random names and bad GPUs, lol).
Anyway, I love my Evo, just wish it was better in some areas (screen, camera, GPU)... and that's all I'm looking for in an upgrade.
CTIA is usually where Sprint shines.
who ever said we would get an evo2 in the first place?
Htc Sabor = Evo 2 ?
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I just want to say that you may not be impressed by the evo shift stats, but my girlfriend just got one and it runs way better than the evo.
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fixxxer2008 said:
who ever said we would get an evo2 in the first place?
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Considering its the most successful smartphone in the history of the carrier... logic...
EricSS619 said:
I just want to say that you may not be impressed by the evo shift stats, but my girlfriend just got one and it runs way better than the evo.
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If anyone read any of the stats on the evo shift, they would clearly see it's better in every aspect (as long as you dont mind no Front facing cam, and 5mb rear cam). The 800mhz is wayyyyyyyy better than the 1ghz the evo has, has more updated software all the way around. So they made the screen smaller probably to accomodate for the added thickness of having a physical keyboard. You guys need to realize it's not all about the specs all the time.. HTC knew exactly what they were doing when they put out that phone.
There wont be a evo 2....there is supposed to be the htc sabor coming out that is going to be the upgrade of the evo....google it
^As far as I know the HTC Sabor isn't real. At least no one has said anything substantial about it, and certainly nothing has been confirmed (unless you read Ozcarguide........)
Anyway I'm expecting to hear something at ctia. Not expecting an "Evo 2" per se, but at least a top-notch smartphone for sprint to lead with in 2011
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Anyway I'm expecting to hear something at ctia. Not expecting an "Evo 2" per se, but at least a top-notch smartphone for sprint to lead with in 2011
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Imagine if it was the iPhone 5.
EricSS619 said:
I just want to say that you may not be impressed by the evo shift stats, but my girlfriend just got one and it runs way better than the evo.
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Considering you have held one and use it do you mind elaborating from your personal experience as to why it runs so much better? Thanks.
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Considering its the most successful smartphone in the history of the carrier... logic...
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it WAS... not anymore by any means. i wouldn't count on a evo2 coming. i did how ever hear sprint may be next in line for the iphone, makes sense now that verizon has it.
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Considering you have held one and use it do you mind elaborating from your personal experience as to why it runs so much better? Thanks.
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ive also read several reviews that say it out performs the evo. i still think the epic is faster than both phones with it's hummingbird cpu and better gpu capabilities.
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it WAS... not anymore by any means. i wouldn't count on a evo2 coming. i did how ever hear sprint may be next in line for the iphone, makes sense now that verizon has it.
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No, it still is.
Keep in mind we're talking about Sprint specifically and not all carriers.
The iPhone rumors are just that.
And yes, it's just logic that [due to no CDMA exclusivity] the iPhone will come to Sprint at some point [and all carriers]
But the fact is that Sprint is going to have the next generation of phones come out in summer.
They always do.
It's more important now..more than ever before.
And it would just be the silliest...most retarded business decision in the history of business decisions to NOT follow up the highest selling phone in carrier history with a phone that is updated.
Maybe it won't be HTC, but you bet it will be dual-core and the same basic size etc of the Evo.
mattykinsx said:
No, it still is.
Keep in mind we're talking about Sprint specifically and not all carriers.
The iPhone rumors are just that.
And yes, it's just logic that [due to no CDMA exclusivity] the iPhone will come to Sprint at some point [and all carriers]
But the fact is that Sprint is going to have the next generation of phones come out in summer.
They always do.
It's more important now..more than ever before.
And it would just be the silliest...most retarded business decision in the history of business decisions to NOT follow up the highest selling phone in carrier history with a phone that is updated.
Maybe it won't be HTC, but you bet it will be dual-core and the same basic size etc of the Evo.
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sprint is slow at updates and new hardware. im still banking on a new webos device being announced feb 9 and possibly an iphone by this summer. we shall see what else they have in addition to a new wp7 device.
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ive also read several reviews that say it out performs the evo. i still think the epic is faster than both phones with it's hummingbird cpu and better gpu capabilities.
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No, the Evo shift is actually slightly better than the Epic.
Although you're correct that the Evo Shift much improved over the Evo.
The Evo Shift IS better than the Evo, spec wise.
It has the updated core [top of the line til the tegra 2 series at CES]
It has a GPU 4x more powerful than the Evo's.
The core in the Evo Shift is 45 nm as opposed to 65nm [thus much better battery life with more power]
And, as I have said in the past, clock speed is irrelevant.
...much like the Pentium 4 3.06 ghz core is NOT faster than the i7 core that run at 2.53 GHz....
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sprint is slow at updates and new hardware. im still banking on a new webos device being announced feb 9 and possibly an iphone by this summer. we shall see what else they have in addition to a new wp7 device.
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Their updates generally come in the Summer... [Pre June 09, Evo June 10 etc]
This is "delayed" versus say Verizon who gets them shortly after CES.
But it's not the big deal that people try to play it off as.
you had to go!!!! After having this phone for 2 weeks, it just didn't quite cut it even though on paper it was remarkable. It had a dual core processor, higher resolution, webtop capabilities on and on...
In the end I guess my old eyes couldn't handle the smaller icons due to higher resolution, I had issues with my MP3 player playing only 3/4 of song then stopping and then i wasn't liking the dual core heating up like a toaster oven. THe icons were dull colors too....Motorola likes these dull browns for icons where as HTC likes to use color and make it vivid.
I also like to play around with my phone too much so LOCKED BOOTLOADER was not cool. Did you hear me Motorola, LOCKED BOOTLOADER for a lot of people dont like that.....
So in the end I got the Inspire 4G with Sense. You really cant go wrong with HTC, although I understand the postive and negatives to each phone, mine just happen to fit more in line with HTC.
So for you hopefuls that Motorola will unlock it, wish you the best of luck or that they will do many updates, wish you the best of luck!!!
Not trying to start a huge debate, but if you are on the fence about these two phones, just spend 10 mins. with the Inspire and most people will probably like it over the Motorola.
its funny i had the inspire for 2 weeks....got rid of it a few days ago
got the Atrix...and THANK GOD I DID
4.3 inches at the **** resolution its at was a disaster, hurt my hands. Too heavy
not very fast, barely played videos (htc codecs suck)
Like you said, it comes down to opinion
but switching from inspire 4g to atrix was the best thing I ever did
PS: The battery on that thing gave me EPIC NIGHTMARES.
Can someone just make a "im returning _______" thread/topic/section?
tosh1 said:
you had to go!!!! After having this phone for 2 weeks, it just didn't quite cut it even though on paper it was remarkable. It had a dual core processor, higher resolution, webtop capabilities on and on...
In the end I guess my old eyes couldn't handle the smaller icons due to higher resolution, I had issues with my MP3 player playing only 3/4 of song then stopping and then i wasn't liking the dual core heating up like a toaster oven. THe icons were dull colors too....Motorola likes these dull browns for icons where as HTC likes to use color and make it vivid.
I also like to play around with my phone too much so LOCKED BOOTLOADER was not cool. Did you hear me Motorola, LOCKED BOOTLOADER for a lot of people dont like that.....
So in the end I got the Inspire 4G with Sense. You really cant go wrong with HTC, although I understand the postive and negatives to each phone, mine just happen to fit more in line with HTC.
So for you hopefuls that Motorola will unlock it, wish you the best of luck or that they will do many updates, wish you the best of luck!!!
Not trying to start a huge debate, but if you are on the fence about these two phones, just spend 10 mins. with the Inspire and most people will probably like it over the Motorola.
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You actually can go wrong with HTC, its when they put a 1200 mah battery in a 1.8 ghz capable phone then you get to watch your battery lose a percent every 4 minutes of use. I had one it was totally BS battery life and was totally unacceptable. Then people say "just don't OC it" so then you have a 4.3 inch captivate with less ui lag, no usable internal memory storage, and GPS that works.
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Did u try launcher pro plus first motoblur is **** ill give you that but the phone is fast good battery life screen is nice... I'm loving it
i can't wait until i leave my epic 4g from sprint and come to the atrix community
i am tired of htc, samsung and sprints games so it times to give motorola and att a chance
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Can someone just make a "im returning _______" thread/topic/section?
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Or a
'I treat my phone like a dog' thread
'My phone has feelings, but my other one performs better in bed'
'I'm insecure about my decisions, so I will talk about it here'
Seconded.
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HTC phones are so GENERIC. Its insulting you would even compare such a tired, re-hash of a device to the ATRIX.
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SS2006 said:
Or a
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'My phone has feelings, but my other one performs better in bed'
'I'm insecure about my decisions, so I will talk about it here'
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Lol ;-)
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I love HTC phones. But they have to be Android. I have the evo 4G and I couldn't be happier. It's fast, vibrant, has all the bells and whistles. I literally have a mini computer at the palm of my hands.
I've had it for about 3 weeks now and yeah the battery goes quick but thats because I can't put it down! I had the Hero before switching to evo and I love everything about this phone.
I didn't understand why it was called the supersonic until I used it. Is rather have my HTC evo over any other phone on the market. Puts the iPhone to shame with its 8.0mp camera, and its secondary front-mounted camera makes video chatting a synch, the kickstand is awesome for watching YouTube or movies and also playing games. Oh and I almost forgot it has an HDMI out. Used it and the picture on my tv is remarkable.
Keep up the good work HTC and Google....I love you
Oh and one other thing it has a 4G mobile hotspot that can provide WiFi for up to 8 devices at once. If thats not remarkable I don't know what is
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LedGrip said:
I love HTC phones. But they have to be Android. I have the evo 4G and I couldn't be happier. It's fast, vibrant, has all the bells and whistles. I literally have a mini computer at the palm of my hands.
I've had it for about 3 weeks now and yeah the battery goes quick but thats because I can't put it down! I had the Hero before switching to evo and I love everything about this phone.
I didn't understand why it was called the supersonic until I used it. Is rather have my HTC evo over any other phone on the market. Puts the iPhone to shame with its 8.0mp camera, and its secondary front-mounted camera makes video chatting a synch, the kickstand is awesome for watching YouTube or movies and also playing games. Oh and I almost forgot it has an HDMI out. Used it and the picture on my tv is remarkable.
Keep up the good work HTC and Google....I love you
Oh and one other thing it has a 4G mobile hotspot that can provide WiFi for up to 8 devices at once. If thats not remarkable I don't know what is
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i like the Evo and a lot of people i kno and see around campus have either the evo or iphone 4, very few galaxy S phone, but honestly i think the Atrix is better then all of them, even the Galaxy S II won't compare judging from the specs that were given(but i can't prove it until the phone comes out so it's just an opinion)
I've never been a fan of Motorola. I have had very bad experiences with mot. Phones. I have had nothing but good experiences with HTC w/google. I also used to have the blackberry curve 8310 and thought it was the best thing since buttered toast. But that quickly changed when I switched to sprint.
Sprint has better service than ATT & Verizon combined IMO. But thats just how I feel. They have given me good prices and great devices with no hassle and I'm not the type to ruin a good thing. Bottom line is "to each his own" but I will recommend HTC with Android until either HTC starts slacking or Google bites the dust (which they wont).
I'm sure you all have valid points about your phone's but I'm pro HTC and definitly pro Google.
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I've never been a fan of Motorola. I have had very bad experiences with mot. Phones. I have had nothing but good experiences with HTC w/google. I also used to have the blackberry curve 8310 and thought it was the best thing since buttered toast. But that quickly changed when I switched to sprint.
Sprint has better service than ATT & Verizon combined IMO. But thats just how I feel. They have given me good prices and great devices with no hassle and I'm not the type to ruin a good thing. Bottom line is "to each his own" but I will recommend HTC with Android until either HTC starts slacking or Google bites the dust (which they wont).
I'm sure you all have valid points about your phone's but I'm pro HTC and definitly pro Google.
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Had Inspire and Atrix. Kept Atrix. The end.
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I've had many htc phones and have always had a good experience. I had a hard time waiting for the atrix when I saw the inspire for $100. At that price point it is a steal for the features you get. In the end i'm glad I waited though. The Atrix is rediculously good!!! Super fast and great battery life (I get about 16 hours a charge... 16!!!) It is hands down the best phone i've ever used. Head shoulders and more above the rest, a GIANT among a sea of average phones.
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I was impressed by the Inspire back when it came out on Sprint as the Evo... what, eight months ago? I made the mistake of buying old hardware that just came out once, the Hero. Never again.
Coming from the Captivate, the only things I miss are how vibrant the games looked on SAMOLED and flashing the new hot stuff roms.
Do not miss accidently bricking the thing and having to use a USB jig to fix it though...
I am from a another continent; a faraway country - Singapore to be exact. Smartphones is one of my hobbies. I have had several HTC phones - Windows Mobile, and now the Desire on Android which is about 9 months old, and high time for a replacement. I have been reading and eyeing the Atrix since Jan 2011 - all excited about it's superior tech specs, and particularly its innovative HDMI/TV docking unit. I have been preparing myself to be an early adopter and to purchase a unit from EBay at a premium price. I have been so impressed with what I read that I even invested in some MMI stocks. But, all these excitement, hype and high expectations of owning a Atrix (will be my first Moto) came to a complete stop last weekend - when I learnt that a famed developer (he did the unroot for the Atrix) abandoned his work because of the locked bootloader! Motorola may have their own reasons to do this, but it is unacceptable to me. So, unless I see a Moto announcement to unlock the bootloader, I am off looking for another dual core smartphone - either the LG 2X or wait for HTC to release one. Obviously I will also sell off my MMI stocks - even if I have to incur a loss, given its recent rapid decline. Sorry folks, if I have been somewhat off-topic. Just wanted to voice my opinion.
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I am from a another continent; a faraway country - Singapore to be exact. Smartphones is one of my hobbies. I have had several HTC phones - Windows Mobile, and now the Desire on Android which is about 9 months old, and high time for a replacement. I have been reading and eyeing the Atrix since Jan 2011 - all excited about it's superior tech specs, and particularly its innovative HDMI/TV docking unit. I have been preparing myself to be an early adopter and to purchase a unit from EBay at a premium price. I have been so impressed with what I read that I even invested in some MMI stocks. But, all these excitement, hype and high expectations of owning a Atrix (will be my first Moto) came to a complete stop last weekend - when I learnt that a famed developer (he did the unroot for the Atrix) abandoned his work because of the locked bootloader! Motorola may have their own reasons to do this, but it is unacceptable to me. So, unless I see a Moto announcement to unlock the bootloader, I am off looking for another dual core smartphone - either the LG 2X or wait for HTC to release one. Obviously I will also sell off my MMI stocks - even if I have to incur a loss, given its recent rapid decline. Sorry folks, if I have been somewhat off-topic. Just wanted to voice my opinion.
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It really is perplexing -the decision to lock the bootloader. I mean, are they afraid someone would engineer a program that steals fingerprints...etc?
http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/15/htc-evo-3d-review/
Looks like a made a good decision and will be sticking with my Nexus S...
I hate endgadget reviews
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Lol that review feels like it doesn't come from a tech site. That is sad.
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weird, i thought the E3D had 1080p support.
is it just me or are manufacturers getting stingy with the accessories they include in the box? i remember when i opened up my nexus one box for the first time, it had a charger, separate usb/micro usb data cable, AND a neoprene sleeve pouch.
this E3D doesnt even include headphones?
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weird, i thought the E3D had 1080p support.
is it just me or are manufacturers getting stingy with the accessories they include in the box? i remember when i opened up my nexus one box for the first time, it had a charger, separate usb/micro usb data cable, AND a neoprene sleeve pouch.
this E3D doesnt even include headphones?
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It looks like it is a cheap version of the other HTC phones with a gimmick screen. I was seriously tempted by it, but I am hearing other news that it is a decent phone that feels cheap compared to the predecessor...Dont get me wrong, i hate the plastic on the Nexus S, but, for a "flagship" phone, plastic optics sound crappy.
Read that review closer. They say they barely used it, then go on to say they used the **** out of the internet, and camera. and only got 14 hours.
I wouldn't speak to build quality until you can hold one, to engadget anything short of the iphone is a giant piece of crap to them.
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Read that review closer. They say they barely used it, then go on to say they used the **** out of the internet, and camera. and only got 14 hours.
I wouldn't speak to build quality until you can hold one, to engadget anything short of the iphone is a giant piece of crap to them.
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Oh really? they gave great reviews of the Galaxy S2 + Sensation
Don't be pissed because they're bashing on HTC.
We as Android users make fun of Apple fan boys. But all in honesty, there are some Android fanboys too who stick to HTC, Samsung, and so on. I'm a victim of this, I prefer Samsung devices.
Surprising, I'll go check them out. I typically don't read engadget reviews unless someone posts one.
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Surprising, I'll go check them out. I typically don't read engadget reviews unless someone posts one.
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I'd post them but reviews for other phones aren't relevant.
9/10: http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review/
8/10: http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/27/htc-sensation-review/
For a handset with such a broad range of standout features and specs, the Galaxy S II is remarkably easy to summarize. It's the best Android smartphone yet, but more importantly, it might well be the best smartphone, period. Of course, a 4.3-inch screen size won't suit everyone, no matter how stupendously thin the device that carries it may be, and we also can't say for sure that the Galaxy S II would justify a long-term iOS user foresaking his investment into one ecosystem and making the leap to another. Nonetheless, if you're asking us what smartphone to buy today, unconstrained by such externalities, the Galaxy S II would be the clear choice. Sometimes it's just as simple as that.
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That doesn't seem too biased whatsoever. Yes, they had a harsh review on the HTC EVO 3D but honestly, I'll have to agree with them. The "3D" phone doesn't attract me and the specs don't either.
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I'd post them but reviews for other phones aren't relevant.
9/10: http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review/
8/10: http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/27/htc-sensation-review/
That doesn't seem too biased whatsoever. Yes, they had a harsh review on the HTC EVO 3D but honestly, I'll have to agree with them. The "3D" phone doesn't attract me and the specs don't either.
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Fanbois always complain, but to be honest, Apple does a lot right with their stuff and, generally, the praise is warranted. For the majority of people Android is "different" and not as comfortable as the dead simple Apple solution...
I am more amazed that the EVO3D was so mediocre in so many areas. People ***** about the Nexus S lacking 720p video, single core, etc...but the phone "just works" without needing all the gimmicks.
i know most benchmarks are meaningless, but i am sure the Dual Core push is due to ****ty coding on Sense/TW/Blur...My Nexus S crushes my wife's Epic and they are virtually the same core hardware.
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Fanbois always complain, but to be honest, Apple does a lot right with their stuff and, generally, the praise is warranted. For the majority of people Android is "different" and not as comfortable as the dead simple Apple solution...
I am more amazed that the EVO3D was so mediocre in so many areas. People ***** about the Nexus S lacking 720p video, single core, etc...but the phone "just works" without needing all the gimmicks.
i know most benchmarks are meaningless, but i am sure the Dual Core push is due to ****ty coding on Sense/TW/Blur...My Nexus S crushes my wife's Epic and they are virtually the same core hardware.
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The Dual core push is "bad" because they're running on software that is not yet optimized for Dual Core processors. The only things optimized for dual cores are Honeycomb and the upcoming Ice Cream Sandwich. But even then, Quadrant isn't optimized for Dual Cores. So like you said, Benchmarks mean nothing.
Also, they're running on Android 2.2 for the most part! LoL
That rubber will be peeling off after a couple months. Booo htc!
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That review doesn't surprise me at all. It will be a pile of crap phone. Watch...
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Man I pr-ordered the evo 3d at best buy last week and unrooted my nexus but man I cant let this thing go. I love this phone and I told my gf last night that imma stick with the ns4g. This phone feels good to own and I can't go to sense from aosp. I keep looking at the evo3d and it just looks ugly and gimmicky. I wish sprint got the sensation instead...
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Even though the photon is gonna be locked down it will be a way better dual core device. I would wait on that instead of buying the 3D
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Even though the photon is gonna be locked down it will be a way better dual core device. I would wait on that instead of buying the 3D
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motobloat ehehehehe
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motobloat ehehehehe
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yea, ive had a droid x and a droid 2, both had blur. i didnt like it, but the phones were rock solid. great radios, awesome battery life. the photon will be better than the evo 3d even with the blur
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yea, ive had a droid x and a droid 2, both had blur. i didnt like it, but the phones were rock solid. great radios, awesome battery life. the photon will be better than the evo 3d even with the blur
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It will, but having a locked bootloader kills it. Not interested.
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mikeyinid said:
yea, ive had a droid x and a droid 2, both had blur. i didnt like it, but the phones were rock solid. great radios, awesome battery life. the photon will be better than the evo 3d even with the blur
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Nope, it won't. A lot of random hate for HTC in this thread considering how poorly Samsung phones have been compared to HTC.
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Nope, it won't. A lot of random hate for HTC in this thread considering how poorly Samsung phones have been compared to HTC.
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This is the only Samsung phone I've had luck with. I'm 50/50 on swapping for the evo 3d. HTC phones tend to be heavy and for me that really kills it.
Just curious to know if there are any details of upcoming Android phones in the year 2012? I have searched Google extensively but details appear to be very scarce.
Personally I would like to get a non-hardware keyboard phone for my next one (my last three HTC phones have had keyboards, and you can probably guess which phones they were!). So ideally would like a fairly thin phone, but with a decent battery in it. Would also like much more onboard storage (32gb).
Unfortunately details for upcoming phones seem to be heavily under lock and key.
What's after GNexus
Yeah I was wondering the same thing. After the GNexus, everyone's tight lipped about what they're coming up with.
Just tried a GNexus at the Bell Store (Canada) and didn't walk out too impressed. So I'm now anxiously waiting on other vendors to step up the game and introduce those ICS ready, less capacitive buttons phones already.
Let's see what they have in store for us in 2012.
we shud get something future proof. desire z is good. yes they can use ICS. but we lack a lot of cool feature. maybe like NFC? /: hope new phones are cheap and awesome like dz.
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we shud get something future proof. desire z is good. yes they can use ICS. but we lack a lot of cool feature. maybe like NFC? /: hope new phones are cheap and awesome like dz.
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The top of range of the new phones, one that is unanimously considered fantastic, will probably cost a hell of a lot. But as long as it isn't priced silly like an iPhone, then I won't mind taking out a 2 year contract if the phone is really good and ticks all the boxes.
I'm hanging onto my Desire Z till HTC comes out with another slide-out keyboard phone...
I want a new phone to replace my Vision - anyone heard any rumours about any decent qwerty handsets coming out?
Only ones I've heard about are the Dell Hancock and Motorola Droid 4 (RAZR with a keyboard). Both of which I doubt will get released in the UK.
It's a shame HTC haven't announced anything because my contract's up soon and I'm wanting a new toy to play with.
GSMarena seems to have the good list of phones, and some rumored ones too. I feel it's more a case of ditching hardware keyboards because of more time, money and resources needed to make them. Maybe that's why HTC is able to crank out so many touch phones but rarely any keyboard ones.
The few best out there are the Samsung i927 and Motorola XT860. Both are on dual core processors.
Here's the current list via GSMarena search for 800Mhz, 512mb RAM and up phones.
:-/
QWERTY or gtfo. I wish there was a good candybar-style phone that had good xda dev support :-(
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QWERTY or gtfo. I wish there was a good candybar-style phone that had good xda dev support :-(
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Yep, seems like "the best" supported QWERTY out there right now, factoring dev support is the Mytouch 4g Slide. G2 comes the second. As far as I can tell, the dev on the MT4GS on CM9 has posted youtubes of his progress in their section. It looks on par with the progress of our DZ ICS roms.
But I don't want to drop my plan and head over to T-mobile. I'm comfortable with my provider.
I hope it doesn't come to the day QWERTY phones become a dying breed esp with XDA devs. The lack of "must-have" QWERTY releases are making it look like it is.
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QWERTY or gtfo. I wish there was a good candybar-style phone that had good xda dev support :-(
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Indeed. Next QWERTY phone or G3 like successor better have quadcore support, hi-grade build quality, all the feature of current flagships, heck GLONASS support and definitely no provider advertized phone like the mytouch series, plain factory phones only.
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Well, if Apple has their way in court, there won't be any Android phones anymore. They are winning patent case after patent case, and their goal is to shut Android down and have a monopoly on the smartphone market. Some think android is in real trouble... though it will likely be a case of Google having to pay a truckload of money to Apple. Gotta love modern capitalism....
Sheesh, didn't know the legal battle between them was serious enough for an OS extinction. The patent system is seriously corrupted.
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I know.. suing over the slide to lock and unlock???? Wtf? How can you patent an idea? It was an idea at the time apple filed a patent for it, way before the 1st Gen iPhone came into being.
Your right about patents killing a OS.
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Sheesh, didn't know the legal battle between them was serious enough for an OS extinction. The patent system is seriously corrupted.
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Apple just banned the sale of all HTC phones running Froyo and below, including the G2 (without upgrade), starting in April. If it keeps going this way, Apple will take over.
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Apple just banned the sale of all HTC phones running Froyo and below, including the G2 (without upgrade), starting in April. If it keeps going this way, Apple will take over.
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You mean filed a lawsuit to ban them, good luck apple...good luck. I for one am happy to see apple wasting buttloads of cash on crying about android. Next quarter they'll slip even more
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This is ridiculous. How does the DZ/G2 or even hardware keyboard phones come close to the function of an iPhone?
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This is ridiculous. How does the DZ/G2 or even hardware keyboard phones come close to the function of an iPhone?
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They're superior and sell more...hence why apple is jealous...they should be used to it by now wouldn't u think?
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Apple just lost one of them to Samsung recently. I really doubt they will win because they are downright ridiculous. I think the judges are starting to realize that apple is just sue-happy and thinks everyone stole their work. Pretty soon they start suing the produce guys claiming they stole their name lol! Idiots!
I'm curious about a new qwerty HTC also. The only newer choice we have is the MyTouch 4G Slide but it has ZERO dev support. I guess I'll see if I can make it until the next G model or something. My G2 is in pretty good shape so I'll be okay for a while, I hope
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Yep, seems like "the best" supported QWERTY out there right now, factoring dev support is the Mytouch 4g Slide. G2 comes the second. As far as I can tell, the dev on the MT4GS on CM9 has posted youtubes of his progress in their section. It looks on par with the progress of our DZ ICS roms.
But I don't want to drop my plan and head over to T-mobile. I'm comfortable with my provider.
I hope it doesn't come to the day QWERTY phones become a dying breed esp with XDA devs. The lack of "must-have" QWERTY releases are making it look like it is.
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Wha? They have literally 4 whole pages of their development section lol! what are you talking about?!
Unfortunately, Apple has taken the road of "if you can't beat em, sue em". They are just pissed because somebody came around, and gave people what they wanted, instead of TOLD them what they wanted. Like how about big screen smartphones, and the ability to move files without having to use Apple's crappy iTunes bloatware? And now they wonder why Android has taken the smartphone marketshare from them.
Now Apple is burning the bridges with other companies that made the iPhone what it is, in an attempt to extort Android from the top spot. Samsung has made the CPUs for all the iPhones, and the memory chips for many of them, until recently where Apple is now trying to move to other suppliers, so it can more easily attack Samsung without repercussions. And how useless would the iPhone be without the Google search engine, or Google Maps? Some have postulated that the iPhone location logging debacle earlier this year was an indication that Apple is trying to come up with a map and navigation solution so it can break away from Google.
Hopefully, the recent patent ruling against HTC will be tied up with appeals and countersuits. I don't see the smartphone landscape changing just from a few patent suits. And hopefully that would never happen, as I enjoy having a smartphone that actually acts like a computer, not a closed architecture iPod.
Back to the OP, it seems like HTC's is just starting to reveal specs on its 2012 devices. Of interest are the Elite (4.7" display and LTE on AT&T), the Ville (4.3" AMOLED display, dual core 1.5 GHz CPU) and the Edge (4.7" SLCD and quad core 1.5 GHz NVIDIA CPU). Unfortunately, no hint of anything with a hardware keyboard anytime soon, AFAIK.
http://www.bgr.com/2011/12/19/htc-elite-flagship-phone-and-4g-lte-windows-phone-to-hit-att-in-early-2012/
http://www.bgr.com/2011/11/09/htc-ville-detailed-htc-sense-4-0-ice-cream-sandwich-thinner-than-iphone/
http://www.bgr.com/2011/11/08/htc-edge-to-lead-the-smartphone-pack-with-quad-core-cpu-optically-laminated-display-and-unibody-design/
The HTC Vivid (released on AT&T earlier this month) looks pretty nice. But the body is a little too angular and plastic for my liking. It seems that HTC might be (thankfully) going back to the aluminum unibody that it has become known for.