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Sprint support vs EVO

I think its messed up that sprint gimped a lot of things on this phone whe its clearly capable to do more than the Evo. Imagine if we had the other galaxy s features, like 16gb ROM and tv out.
This phone would clearly outshine the Evo, but because of all the marketing behind the evo, sprint would lose money if everyone looked at the epic spec sheet (if it had 16gb and tv out, and 8 devices 4g tether) so they release a slightly gimped phone for $50 more so people would go to the evo. And because more people are using the evo, they capped the speeds on 3g for epic users to support he majority of evo users. Then a lilbit before they released the speedcap update to epics, dan hesse spoke about too much heavy data and might go to tiered plans.
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All these "gimps" you say, and the Epic is still better than the Evo.
Also, tiered plans would be for new subscribers only, as current subscribers would be grandfathered.
Also, the Fascinate and the Epic are the 2 with smaller internal storage, as the Fascinate only has 2gb, and the Epic has 498. The Vibrant and the Captivate both have 16gb.

The upload speed on 3G was NOT CAPPED. Like I say in every thread, Samsung just sucks at programming.

A_Flying_Fox said:
I think its messed up that sprint gimped a lot of things on this phone whe its clearly capable to do more than the Evo. Imagine if we had the other galaxy s features, like 16gb ROM and tv out.
This phone would clearly outshine the Evo, but because of all the marketing behind the evo, sprint would lose money if everyone looked at the epic spec sheet (if it had 16gb and tv out, and 8 devices 4g tether) so they release a slightly gimped phone for $50 more so people would go to the evo. And because more people are using the evo, they capped the speeds on 3g for epic users to support he majority of evo users. Then a lilbit before they released the speedcap update to epics, dan hesse spoke about too much heavy data and might go to tiered plans.
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The 16 gb of rom would of been awesome on the epic
I care less on the tv out and 8 devices tether
And the epic still beats the evo
Oh well all and all i still love my epic and i don't regret buying it.

ultra78721 said:
The 16 gb of rom would of been awesome on the epic
I care less on the tv out and 8 devices tether
And the epic still beats the evo
Oh well all and all i still love my epic and i don't regret buying it.
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I paid CASH for mine out of contract, and I still don't regret it.

scriz said:
I paid CASH for mine out of contract, and I still don't regret it.
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Not exactly..just sold a few things I hadn't used in awhile to get the cash.

No no I wasn't geting at the epic! I love this phone. But I'm saying, the epic was clearly dumbed down by sprint to support the evo. I wish they would've kept the original specs+ keyboard and LEDflash so the average consumer would've picked up this phone which would garner more support and I don't need tv out, but I'm sure if this phone had all the originals, people would've bought this at a much better ratio to the evo :/ I love my epic though (minus the gps that failed to work the 3 times I needed it :/). Its just sprint could've done better instead of nip tucking the epic to support the evo
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So how is it in the best interest of sprint to gimp a phone on their own network to drive sales to a different device on their own network which costs less and has the same service fees? Maybe this is why they are doing so poorly, they have business plans thought up by 10 year olds.
It just doesn't make any sense. They intentionally "dumbed down" the epic to support the evo? Why?

A_Flying_Fox said:
I think its messed up that sprint gimped a lot of things on this phone whe its clearly capable to do more than the Evo. Imagine if we had the other galaxy s features, like 16gb ROM and tv out.
This phone would clearly outshine the Evo, but because of all the marketing behind the evo, sprint would lose money if everyone looked at the epic spec sheet (if it had 16gb and tv out, and 8 devices 4g tether) so they release a slightly gimped phone for $50 more so people would go to the evo. And because more people are using the evo, they capped the speeds on 3g for epic users to support he majority of evo users. Then a lilbit before they released the speedcap update to epics, dan hesse spoke about too much heavy data and might go to tiered plans.
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Being that I own both I want to remind you that the EVO came "gimped" as well. <30fps and at the time, and per HTC, it could NOT be fixed as it was hardware limited, bt issues, some have gps issues as well, HDMI out ONLY works for video/pix in certain apps etc., etc.. The fact of the matter is the the HTC community is much larger, and more active, than the the Samsung Epic community. The EVO community has knocked most of these issues out of the park one by one. Where we have a handful of people on xda working on the epic, cruise by the EVO dev board and you will see there are easily 5x the people working on issues/releases/new things. That being said I notice that a lot of other HTC phones cross over... so if the EVO community doesn't fix something, another HTC phone comes up with a fix that is easily adapted to the EVO.

I do not agree. The epic is the most feature rich galaxy s phone. The little things you mention are programming errors or samsung decisions.
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spiicytuna said:
Where we have a handful of people on xda working on the epic, cruise by the EVO dev board and you will see there are easily 5x the people working on issues/releases/new things.
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I wish there were as many devs working on the Epic as there are on HTC devices. That being said, I'm extremely thankful (and we, as Epic owners, are very fortunate) to have the talent that we DO have working on our devices as well. We DO have some extremely talented devs in this section. I'm tickled to see devs that came over from SDX that were so involved with the Moment. That phone had several plagues and the devs as SDX were hard core devoted to it. Some of them still are, and some of them have come over to play in the Epic park.
Thanks to all the Epic devs that we have. You all are truly talented and I sincerely appreciate all the time/effort that you put in so that I can enjoy my device that much more.
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That being said I notice that a lot of other HTC phones cross over... so if the EVO community doesn't fix something, another HTC phone comes up with a fix that is easily adapted to the EVO.
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This has been the case for quite some time. I remember the TP2 was very similar. Devs were always taking features/tweaks/fixes from one device and making it work on the TP2 because we 'had to have it'..
I believe the Galaxy S phones will cross over as well eventually. We're at a slight disadvantage though in that regard as there are a whole slew of HTC devices that are similar and we only have 4 or 5 Galaxy S phones..
Either way, I'm thankful for the talented devs that we DO have working on these phones. And you never know, some of the HTC devs might just get tired of working on HTC's and wanna come play with something that's Epic

I am much happier with the epic than the G1 or the Moment that I had before. I don't thiink sprint is using this to boost sales of the evo. they are doing fine advertising the evo without the "sales" from people who don't want the epic.
The epic has better specs than the evo first off -- talking hardware. HTC has been in the game longer than sammy and as it as said earlier, the samsung programming team could use some help.
Our phones are open sourced, if someone is not happpy with something CHANGE it. Go to barnes and nobles and get a f****n programming book and do sometthing.
Lastly,
It is kinda funny that sprint is still having those stupid "first" commercials regarding the evo. We got it already sprint. Now advertise the second and ......
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smeyerhuky said:
I am much happier with the epic than the G1 or the Moment that I had before. I don't thiink sprint is using this to boost sales of the evo. they are doing fine advertising the evo without the "sales" from people who don't want the epic.
The epic has better specs than the evo first off -- talking hardware. HTC has been in the game longer than sammy and as it as said earlier, the samsung programming team could use some help.
Our phones are open sourced, if someone is not happpy with something CHANGE it. Go to barnes and nobles and get a f****n programming book and do sometthing.
Lastly,
It is kinda funny that sprint is still having those stupid "first" commercials regarding the evo. We got it already sprint. Now advertise the second and ......
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Damn this sounds bitcy, sorry. Slept very little last night. I mean eerything I just mean to sound like less of a tol saying it.
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Did they cut down on some features out of box? yes..but its 100% does not have anything to do with the EVO..sprint doesn't make more or less money with whichever device you choose...so why would they go out of their way to do it?
But they do need to advertise Epic more...I mean I see commercials with Instincts on them and they don't even have them in stock...talk about wasting money...

The Epic's smaller internal flash wasn't a gimp... we got better flash than the the others did. The Vibrant and Captivate have the equivalent of a hardwired microSD card (SLOW). We have real, parallel-interfaced flash.
AT&T and T-Mobile went for big-number bling. Sprint listened to the engineers.
Personally, I think the Epic is off to a slow start against the Evo, but will ultimately win the marathon by virtue of being more maintainable by end users over the long run. Evo owners basically have to depend on hardware similarities with the Nexus One to get any kind of independent driver support. Samsung built the kernel using proper loadable kernel modules. The Evo's kernel is easier to remix today; our kernel is easier to blow away and build from scratch tomorrow.
Now... Samsung/Sprint DID totally gimp the Epic's keyboard by using large flat keycaps. They should have kept the pitch, but made the keycaps half as tall and wide. Or rounded them to make it easier to press the centers without pressing adjacent keys. They sacrificed genuine usability for the sake of making it thin and pretty in pictures.

I had the Evo, and moved to the Epic, and don't regret it at all. I miss some things(I loved Fresh Roms on the Evo) but I love the screen colors and brightness on the Epic and I think the camera is better. Once it gets 2.2, I think the Epic is a better choice.
Plus I love the Gorilla Glass(no screen prot needed), the better rear camera(no easy scratches) and the keyboard if I need to type out a lot of things(still use SwiftKey or Swype more than the hardware keyboard).

i do notice favor showed to evo though

Points for new phone please

Had to post to fellow nexers. Lost my sexy nexy n am now in position to buy out right my next baby. Choices r evo 3d, g2x now (been waiting atrix, n evo. Its hard since I've waited so long for LG star/g2x. G2x has vanilla but rom changing either way. Thanks for n e feed back ^_^
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I'm torn between the G2X or the SGS2.
The Atrix eh. I think the dock is cool, but would never use it. I think motorola has the bootloader on lockdown like other models.
I like the Super Amoled Plus of the SGS2 but no Tegra means no Nvidia love. Also since most Honeycomb devices use Tegra, it might not be fully supported.
I was thinking that I didn't know if I could ever love another screen that wasn't amoled... but a coworker has a G2 and the screen is very crisp. Unless you are purposely comparing black levels, the SLCD might have the 1up.
Maybe we'll get lucky and the SGS2 will launch with a Tegra chipset. They said some markets will get them. Maybe wait and buy a Tegra2 SGS2? Best of both?

What ever Cyanogen moves on to, real talk lol.

Did you have insurance on the N1 or is this next purchase out of your own pocket?

I've never had a smartphone that wasn't made by HTC and I don't know if that will ever change. Still waiting for their next stock phone but if I had to get something now(well, soon anyway), I'd definitely go for the evo 3d. However, buying a dual core phone right now seems like such a waste. Gingerbread does not properly support it and you never know if and when these phones will get updates. I wish the nexus S hadn't been such a let down.. but I'll be happy with my N1 for a while longer

Thanks ALL for replies ^__^
@player911-not big on samsung but maybe. otimus 3d is another ive reasearched.thks!
@pew - lol
@system - no lost my n1 new years been with old magic since
@smaskell - i would be too =(
have discount and could get atrix & laptop dock for 700 outright and school with a laptop with no battery is really starting to sway me. I've SCOURED it's forums on XDA and can get a rom i'd be happy with already and the dock has some really good highlights (ex. opening your home XP pc in a window and fullscreen it for a specific program, etc.) I'd miss the .3" extra screen real estate but eh. No 3d like evo or optimus 3d, but it have to be at a certain distance and my television isnt 3d so no good there. atrix will mirror to my 73" hd tv. though Switch to att is a pill i'd have to swallow but employee line helps there ^__^ and it's lte will be backwards compatible so will just need a sim not a new phone (G'Luck verizon). Would like to have htc on tmobile but I cant wait for ever and i lost my nexus New Years so I've been relying on my htc magic since then =( may wait till april 20th to see what LG says this time but prob. biting the motorolla bullet tomorrow

I personally will never buy a Samsung smartphone, tablet or anything that recieves updates again. HTC's build quality demolishes Samsung anyways.

DanRo80 said:
I personally will never buy a Samsung smartphone, tablet or anything that recieves updates again. HTC's build quality demolishes Samsung anyways.
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Really? Since when? HTC's are the ones with the screens falling off and hinges that open when the device is tilted. I haven't heard of any 'build quality' issues with any samsungs?!
The only problem with sammy is the delay in receiving 'official' updates but who uses stock anyway?
The specs and features of the sgs2 out shine any phone on the market, the only thing it is lacking is a qhd res but that isn't important to most people, I mean who cares about screen res when you can 1080p output via hdmi.
What you should really be worrying about is which phone supports wiimote and can do full hdmi mirroring.

Wait for HTC pyramid supposing the rumors are true!
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phewizzo said:
What ever Cyanogen moves on to, real talk lol.
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Agree!
Actually, I'll make sure my next phone will be dev. community friendly... And I need a screen that wins against sunny days.

Wanted to chime in n say I freaking love my atrix! Just played with g2x and though great phone happy I didn't wait. This thing is sick. Dont really have time for nightlies n e more but miss all that great great dev love but wouldn't trade for n e thing. Love lapdock webtop n media screen. Did not think id be happy with moto or att for gods sake but I am^_^
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DanRo80 said:
I personally will never buy a Samsung smartphone, tablet or anything that recieves updates again. HTC's build quality demolishes Samsung anyways.
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I guess that depends where you live. Galaxy S phones are getting Gingerbread now in Europe, whereas Desire users are still waiting, afaik
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Sooo... What's next after the Epic?

I've seen a lot of talk about new phones but is there a successor to the Samsung Epic?
I talked my wife into buying the Epic as well and we love them but we always keep our eyes on that 2 year mark (which is coming up this Summer)... wondering if we are going to stay in place with the Epics or save for something else.
We are particularly fond of the physical keyboard... don't want to jump to a phone without one.
Love reading all the great threads on here... keep up the great info.
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The EVO 3D seems to have caught the Epic community's eye. The Epic can do nearly everything that the new EVO can, except the Evo has a better CPU (dual core), TV out (hdmi), and it's 3D option.

No top tier phones with keyboards have been announced yet by Sprint. Samsung has created the "Galaxy S II" which could be used to produce an Epic 2 but that is between Samsung & Sprint to decide.
I believe Sprint is releasing a windows phone 7 HTC device with keyboard, but I'm not interested in wp7.
How are you hitting the 2-year mark when the Epic was released last summer?

Dual 1.2ghz processors
1GB DDR2 ram
NFC
8mp camera
2mp FFC
1080p recording & playback
4.3" display
SAMoled + technology
hdmi out
removable memory
Gingerbread 2.4
replaceable 1750mah battery
Thinest cellphone ever made
yeah.... I'm waiting on the Galaxy S2 myself.

9kracing said:
Dual 1.2ghz processors
1GB DDR2 ram
NFC
8mp camera
2mp FFC
1080p recording & playback
4.3" display
SAMoled + technology
hdmi out
removable memory
Gingerbread 2.4
Ice Cream 3.1
replaceable 1750mah battery
Thinest cellphone ever made
yeah.... I'm waiting on the Galaxy S2 myself.
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FTFY
Wait...this is Samsung, God forbid they put out an up to date phone.
I know it hasn't been released yet. But I/O is here in what 4 days?
I theorize 3.1 because it will be a merge of the Tablet and Phone branches of Android, and I doubt they would down grade the version number of the tablets. so the number would have to be >=3.1

Yeah the 4.3" screen may be a problem for those looking for an Epic 2. I think it would be absolutely huge. I personally am going for a non-kb device next. After all, the KB on the epic was pretty useless with all the skipped characters which forced me to become comfortable with swype.
I'd be all over the Evo 3D if it had an amoled display. Any phone w/o amoled will need to have very strong contrast levels with very low black's otherwise it will annoy the heck out of my to pay for a phone upgrade with a lesser quality screen.
I figure I'll be on the Epic until November 2012 since they removed the 1 year upgrade from my plan. At that point I may just keep it and flash over to Boost mobile for the uber cheap monthly rates.

I bought my Epic outright... used... I jumped into Sprint service with a blackberry curve... bought an EVO and Epic cash/used... but in excellent shape.

I've got another year before I start to look,everything else will be "obsolete"
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Gotta have the keyboard for me otherwise it isn't a smartphone to me. I have tried and tried swype but for those messages more than 2 or 3 words I can not stand it.

I'd rather have super thin with no keyboard than slightly fat and a mostly working keyboard
And I would like to have latest version of touch wiz
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digiblur said:
Gotta have the keyboard for me otherwise it isn't a smartphone to me. I have tried and tried swype but for those messages more than 2 or 3 words I can not stand it.
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Have you tried voice-to-text? Why type when you can talk....

9kracing said:
Have you tried voice-to-text? Why type when you can talk....
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Voice-to-text is fine if you're not in a meeting or something...
"this guy is so boring, I hope he stops droning on and on soon... oh, crap, he can hear me"

I was looking at the evo3d but i am going to wait till the phone is launched first only because i think the phone is going to be locked down alot and i think root will take some time. I will probably be looking at the gsII. I want my amoled screen and 4.3 is an awesome screen size for me. Plus sammy has done pretty good about not locking phones down so far.

I've got till early Fall of next year before I start looking at amazing phones again (just think what they'll have then...lol)
BUT, if I were looking for a new phone, the EVO 3D is definitely the way to go.

In the evo forums over at android forums an HTC insider says the evo 3d will ship with no bootloader lock, they wanna make it dev friendly
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According to my local corp store, if i replace my phone 2 more times (already done 3 exchanges) then i will be able to switch to different device which if i have to exchange this epic 2 more times i am jumping ship to htc and if evo 3d is out then i am going to it.
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Oh man I hope you are right. If so I'm getting it then. Thanks for the information bro
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In the evo forums over at android forums an HTC insider says the evo 3d will ship with no bootloader lock, they wanna make it dev friendly
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Sent From My Evo Killer!!!

Even I am waiting for the Galaxy 2. It's gonna rock!

I'm going to be in heaven if we get Gingerbread or even 2.4 Ice Cream on another version of the Epic 4G with a keyboard and that dual-core 1.2mhz processor, S-AMOLED + display...AND I'm hoping sprint will keep the keyboard on their version...cuase idk where id be for all the long ass E-mails and text messages without some physical buttons to press....and ohh my what the developers would do once they get their hands on that 1.2 dual core...maybe wishfull thinking but can anybody else say 2.0Ghz Overclock....I've already seen the EVO SHIFT 4G OC'D to 1.8 (which I'm thinking about jumping ship towards to be honest if we don't get something new)...I think that would be a realistic expectation.
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The Evo 3D sounds cool, and the 3D option is interesting. If anyone has see the Ninteno 3DS, I assume it is similar to the technology the evo will have. The 3DS is cool but if that's what the evo screen looks like in 3D, HTC has some work to do.
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If anyone cares

Was checking the best buy website today and the Sprint Nexus S phone now has an add to cart button.
When processing the purchase it gives an Estimated Arrival: 04/18-04/21/2011
I opened a chat with a best buy rep and was told:
you : Is a release date available?
Tech: The date is on 4/18/2011
Just an FYI for those who care.

I just chatted with a Bestbuy rep and she said that if anyone pre-orders it and is with a different carrier they will be eligible for the $125 rebate that Sprint is offering if it is done before the 16th.

We're getting dual core's this summer, you're better off sticking with the Epic. The nexus s 4g is the exact same, except for it's running gb and has an NFC chip.

Yeah of rather have the epic over the nexus s
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I'm holding out for CM7 on my Epic. I'm happy with the Epic for now. It has everything I need and some things I don't (keyboard). I'm not really looking to get back into Samsung unless it is a Nexus because its pure google. My girl wants one so will get one for her and get rid of her Epic, but as for me I agree about holding out for later this year.

Epic 4g> Nexus s 4g
only benefit is that its pure google and that chip oh and gingerbread
but i like my epic hardware keyboard better then those things
im happy with froyo and besides if people do but this phone it may make it easier to port new Android versions and stuff like 4g working on CM7 and what not.

davidrules7778 said:
Epic 4g> Nexus s 4g
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Not at all. If anything Epic = Nexus S, but there is no logical reason to consider it better.

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Not at all. If anything Epic = Nexus S, but there is no logical reason to consider it better.
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Hardware keyboard....
Best thing ever for emulators and gaming
also with all the fixes we have for the delay i am actually enjoying typing on it especially with my new epic i got yesterday, hardware is so much tighter then my old original epic.

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Hardware keyboard....
Best thing ever for emulators and gaming
also with all the fixes we have for the delay i am actually enjoying typing on it especially with my new epic i got yesterday, hardware is so much tighter then my old original epic.
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That's a personal preference thing, I could argue that thinner is better, it certainly doesn't make one better than the other.

Yep to personal preference... if i could switch to the Nexus... in a heart beat will i ? HELL NO it's not worth the amount of money.... ill wait for a decent Dual Core

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too me, i think the epic has some of the best hardware and is the only top of the line phone with the hardware kb and for a keyboard phone i think it is so sexy and thin
compared to the moment, the tp2 tp1, i think a lot more people like having that keyboard, all my friends that have galaxy s variants hate me cause i have the hardware keyboard.
but your right it is a preference
mind telling me why you didnt get the evo if you like thin phones?
was it the screen and the hardware on the epic?

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too me, i think the epic has some of the best hardware and is the only top of the line phone with the hardware kb and for a keyboard phone i think it is so sexy and thin
compared to the moment, the tp2 tp1, i think a lot more people like having that keyboard, all my friends that have galaxy s variants hate me cause i have the hardware keyboard.
but your right it is a preference
mind telling me why you didnt get the evo if you like thin phones?
was it the screen and the hardware on the epic?
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I know you didn't ask me but....
I Got the epic b/c of the processor and i didn't know the keyboard would wobble so much and kill a piece of me every time i touched the screen...

davidrules7778 said:
mind telling me why you didnt get the evo if you like thin phones?
was it the screen and the hardware on the epic?
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I did have the Evo originally and it's still sitting in my drawer in the event I need a backup phone.
I switched for 3 Reasons.
The extremely poor GPU in the Evo.
It's weight vs. the Epic (or any SGS)
The direction HTC is going in.

XtaC318 said:
We're getting dual core's this summer, you're better off sticking with the Epic. The nexus s 4g is the exact same, except for it's running gb and has an NFC chip.
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Are we getting dual core pure Google phones on sprint? Is the next Nexus close to the horizon and in dual core?

davidrules7778 said:
Hardware keyboard....
Best thing ever for emulators and gaming
also with all the fixes we have for the delay i am actually enjoying typing on it especially with my new epic i got yesterday, hardware is so much tighter then my old original epic.
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Emulators and gaming were cool for like the first week for me. Since then, not so much.

063_XOBX said:
I did have the Evo originally and it's still sitting in my drawer in the event I need a backup phone.
I switched for 3 Reasons.
The extremely poor GPU in the Evo.
It's weight vs. the Epic (or any SGS)
The direction HTC is going in.
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agreed.
i will be picking up my nexus 4g the day it comes out, why? i am going to be stuck in a contract for 2 years with it. there is no doubts in my mind, the sgx540 in the SGS lineup is hands down the best phone gpu on the market (check glbenckmark.com) in terms of overall benchmark gpu scores the nexus s is 4 slots down from the ipad 2 (you know that new dual core tablet thats been crushing everything in terms of speed) so as far as i see it i have a choice between the epic or the ns4g. the epic is a decent enough phone. i love hard ware keyboards, but i want upgrades for 2 years... ask anyone on the nexus forums if they regret getting a nexus device. im willing to bet 99.9 of them will tell you they love having 2.3.3
i couldnt care at all about nfc (yay non scannable qr codes... woopie..) but its more about the simple things. i very rarely run any stock rom, most of the time is cyanogenmod, i congratulate the devs on trying so hard to bring it to the epic but its still got a bit to go. i guarantee the nexus s 4g will have an official repo/build within a week of cm7.
now whats the worst part about nexus s 4g? the camcorder.. its locked at 480p due to hardware limitations, but i can get over that as i dont use my phone as a video camera. no sd card slot? nah ive owned cell phones before they used microsd, and i own an ipod.. so im kinda used to the whole concept of being stuck with a size, besides refer to above point.. no video means less space taken up by media. no i would have to say the worst part about getting a nexus s 4g is knowing that with gb out and hc being held off for tablets only.. that ice cream is a bit off and that means its gunna be a bit of a wait for me to get my next dose of android medicine.
P.S i know i cant be the only one hoping that moto gets skipped on the next nexus device and lg gets it

For those who are interested, I just got a 10% off coupon in the email from Best Buy. That means a 10% discount on preorders of. Nexxus S
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I have this dumb habit of getting the cooler (in MY opinion) and more unique thing when I have a choice between it and something a little less cool but better supported. I own a Zune instead of an iPod, a Mazdaspeed3 instead of a WRX, I used to have an HPI RC car instead of an Associated RC-* that was gas powered instead of electric, and an Epic instead of an Evo, etc.
On one hand, I have never once wanted to kick the phone across the parking lot like I did with the Hero, but on the other hand, the Evo has more accessories that can be bought in brick and mortar stores, more custom ROMs including a more functional CM (much love, you guys really picked a whore of a phone to port to) and more fully functioning root apps.
I know in my heart that if I did get the Evo, I'd be kicking myself for not getting the far more powerful Epic. In this upgrade cycle I think I made the right decision to give Samsung another chance. I still don't trust them to the level of HTC (started with them back in the Titan days) but if they can make a hot-rod Google Experience phone then I'm definitely on board.
If anyone cares.

Top Nurse said:
For those who are interested, I just got a 10% off coupon in the email from Best Buy. That means a 10% discount on preorders of. Nexxus S
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that coupon is no good on contract phones.

That new EVO looks pretty sweet. I think I'm going to hold out for it. And for those of you that get your phones from Best Buy, you are better off going to a Sprint Store.

I have really been looking at new phones...

And I came to the conclusion that the Evo 4g is the best phone ever invented. It does everything. I have been rooted and currently left sense due to battery life. Deck 1.2.1 and sz 2.2.1 cfs SBC is the best I have ever run. The Evo offers full HDMI, 4g, great wifi, amazing battery life, I just found out I can connect a wii remote and play my nesoid and mirror any game and play 2 players w my daughter on the big screen. From a capability standpoint I have given up. There is no other phone on the market that offers me these features. Sure. Dual core. I could care less. My old Evo still rocking 1700s quadrant (for those that care) and linpacks 40+. I don't have it maxed out all the time. Lol it just works.
I Only started this thread to tell the community thank you for making/helping my Evo stomp ass on every smart phone that has challenged it! You the community have never asked me for a donation. Never begged for money. And always help when I need information.
The Evo is tits+! Thanks!

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And this, I believe, is why HTC doesn't want to unlock the bootloader. Look at how many people just on this forum have started looking at other phones after they got stuck being unrooted. HTC doesn't want you to love your EVO forever; just until the newer model comes out. The developer community for the Supersonic has been amazing, and breathed a whole new life into the phone long after people were supposed to be getting tired of it.

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And this, I believe, is why HTC doesn't want to unlock the bootloader. Look at how many people just on this forum have started looking at other phones after they got stuck being unrooted. HTC doesn't want you to love your EVO forever; just until the newer model comes out. The developer community for the Supersonic has been amazing, and breathed a whole new life into the phone long after people were supposed to be getting tired of it.
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That's a good point. A friend of mine just got the 3D. He came from a Windows mobile phone. He has been going on and on about it but the stuff that he likes are things that I have had on my rooted EVO for a while. I think his excitement is Android based and not based on that particular phone. I have compared mine and just can find enough reason to switch before I see what the development looks like. My rooted EVO is only a small step behind the stock 3D, IMO.

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And I came to the conclusion that the Evo 4g is the best phone ever invented. It does everything. I have been rooted and currently left sense due to battery life. Deck 1.2.1 and sz 2.2.1 cfs SBC is the best I have ever run. The Evo offers full HDMI, 4g, great wifi, amazing battery life, I just found out I can connect a wii remote and play my nesoid and mirror any game and play 2 players w my daughter on the big screen. From a capability standpoint I have given up. There is no other phone on the market that offers me these features. Sure. Dual core. I could care less. My old Evo still rocking 1700s quadrant (for those that care) and linpacks 40+. I don't have it maxed out all the time. Lol it just works.
I Only started this thread to tell the community thank you for making/helping my Evo stomp ass on every smart phone that has challenged it! You the community have never asked me for a donation. Never begged for money. And always help when I need information.
The Evo is tits+! Thanks!
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You got it! +1 on this one!

No real replacement for Evo until next year. It's hard to perfect perfection.
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upgrading to a newer android phone from the evo is just like upgrading from an iphone 3g to a 3gs, only slight differences.

Bad news... http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...oodbye-to-the-htc-evo-4g-and-samsung-epic-4g/
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doesn't mean anything. just that sprint doesn't want it on its shelves anymore in order to sell their new devices.

I'm assuming HTC wants people to upgrade to either the 3D or the Kingdom when it releases as the Hero 4G under Sprint.
Rumor has it that the Kingdom will be a tad cheaper than the 3D. It's basically an Evo with a bigger screen and a worse camera but better hardware specs. It seems like it will be Sprint's new flagship model for some time and will probably be used to tempt all the people that are still happy with their Evo 4Gs out of hiding.

If the Evo 4+ makes it to sprint, that will be the one I am interested in...but only if I can have what I have now. I could only consider it a downgrade to go to a phone that can not do what my current phone does...really not interested if its faster...if it can't do all I have now damn the Evo is nice. I really can't think of another phone that after rooting can do. ALL the things I'm allowed to do due to the amazing development teams

I love my evo 4g
will only upgrade to a phone that's actually superior like 2.0ghz quadcore processer with 16 gig internal, 8 ram with like 1080 resolution screen 8 megapixel camera. 3 megapixel front camera and better gaming than nvidas kal-el chip
But as there aren't going to be any like that for a while I'll stick with what I've got
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I have an evo 4g and its a beast! Ill wait for when LTE phones come out
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Love my evo.
Although it's a little ridiculous to say nothing matches it. Lots of phones do now.... My g2x does everything my evo does, except instead of snesoid on the big screen via hdmi and a wii mote, I'm rocking n64oid at a solid 60fps. Evo can do it all, but adreno-200 is just not capable enough for my wants anymore.
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I agree. This whole HTC locking boot loaders is so people will go out and buy their next best device. Crap I tell ya.... Worst part is, when you do buy Another device, they'll just lock it later down the road... IDK.. that sounds kinda crazy eh? LOL
Anyways the EVO is an awesome device and glad I got it.
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HTC doesn't want you to love your EVO forever; just until the newer model comes out. The developer community for the Supersonic has been amazing, and breathed a whole new life into the phone long after people were supposed to be getting tired of it.
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I don't go for the conspiracy theory that THEY DO NOT WANT YOU TO LIKE YOUR PHONE. This is nonsense. The more you like it the more HTC phones you will buy, and the more you will recommend it to friends. The locking seems to be due to carrier pressure, because the carrier pays for the tech support calls when people screw them up when rooting, overclocking, etc. You call HTC with a screwed up phone and they will tell you to call Sprint ;-)
Just yesterday, the Evo3D root came out, and the instructions led many hundreds of people to have to call tech support to get the phone connected to the network again! This is no joke, I was one of those who called. One of the rooters asked the Sprint rep, and he said he had personally gotten close to 70 calls just yesterday with the same "Error 16" issue due to the new root procedure!
Beyond, that, I agree, EVO 4G rules. I got a 3D, and I do not like it as much as the OG.

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Love my evo.
Although it's a little ridiculous to say nothing matches it. Lots of phones do now.... My g2x does everything my evo does, except instead of snesoid on the big screen via hdmi and a wii mote, I'm rocking n64oid at a solid 60fps. Evo can do it all, but adreno-200 is just not capable enough for my wants anymore.
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I have never owned a g2x. I merely made this post because I feel it is the best well rounded phone for all my needs. HDMI mirroring really makes this shine. The wiimote app only gets used occasionally but still very sweet and it works just like I have a damn old school nes haha. It just fits me and HTC locking bootloaders lol. They will eventually get unlocked. Not a big deal. Then we will all forget about the 3 weeks spent with a horribly locked 3d/sensation lmao.