Look how fast that interface is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAE_zKAtMvg
The problem is, thats not just launcher pro its had the modaco RAM hack to move data to NAND. To do that you need root, and when the memory fills up the phone crashes.
If only Samsung could sort this properly in an update this phone would be tops. This whole lag issue is putting me of upgrading from my desire . I really want this phone but there really shouldn't be this issue
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
And what clock/weather widget was used on the phone?
mark99uk said:
The problem is, thats not just launcher pro its had the modaco RAM hack to move data to NAND. To do that you need root, and when the memory fills up the phone crashes.
If only Samsung could sort this properly in an update this phone would be tops. This whole lag issue is putting me of upgrading from my desire . I really want this phone but there really shouldn't be this issue
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App
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Yes there is one hidden thing here: If you have lots of heavy programs like some games, some navigation progs, google earth, you must keep those heavy programs in the old location. I did exactly this - moved to NAND everything except Google Earth, some Gameloft games and navigation. So now I have really fast phone, all my programs, and there is still plenty of space on NAND memory.
And it is just standart/stock XXJF3 firmware btw
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Its from the market: weather widgets (yr.no)
What exactly is done to optimize Launcher Pro? Seems to me like the OS got optimized and Launcher Pro is just taking a ride on that performance gain.
This smells like a bull**** ad for Launcher Pro. Does it perform any worse running the vanilla home screen? I seriously doubt it. I even doubt the performance difference is very apparent comparing to TouchWiz.
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What exactly is done to optimize Launcher Pro? Seems to me like the OS got optimized and Launcher Pro is just taking a ride on that performance gain.
This smells like a bull**** ad for Launcher Pro. Does it perform any worse running the vanilla home screen? I seriously doubt it. I even doubt the performance difference is very apparent comparing to TouchWiz.
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Thats my video, but not my topic - and the name of the topic is a bit wrong Actually you are partly right - speed increase came from apps data on another partition and memory settings, however Launcher Pro performs faster than TW Launcher even with this optimizations. And I don't see any point in advertising Launcher Pro since its completely free - and even without ads as I can see.
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Thats my video, but not my topic - and the name of the topic is a bit wrong Actually you are partly right - speed increase came from apps data on another partition and memory settings, however Launcher Pro performs faster than TW Launcher even with this optimizations. And I don't see any point in advertising Launcher Pro since its completely free - and even without ads as I can see.
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Ofcourse there's a point in advertising free stuff. It sets the bars higher for the commercial stuff.
I don't see how a launcher can start apps faster than another? The "performance difference" I noticed when comparing Launcher Pro to TouchWiz seemed to be the transitions, not the actual loading of apps. While it adds a slight delay, it has nothing to do with performance. TW is a "smoother" experience than Launcher Pro, which is what I like about it (and which is also why I forgive it for looking way too much like iOS).
Would be interesting (but the time needed puts me off the idea ) to make a true comparison of the huge amount of alternative home screens available.
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Yes there is one hidden thing here: If you have lots of heavy programs like some games, some navigation progs, google earth, you must keep those heavy programs in the old location. I did exactly this - moved to NAND everything except Google Earth, some Gameloft games and navigation. So now I have really fast phone, all my programs, and there is still plenty of space on NAND memory.
And it is just standart/stock XXJF3 firmware btw
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Could you post the steps for this?
The posts about this at Modaco are getting confused, with everyone sharing is way to do it.
I've done this with all apps, but without any games or major apps.
I think you have the best solution for this, just moving the most common apps to NAND.
Thats awesome!
I too would love to know the step by step for this...
Am i to assume with only the common apps moved the 130mb cap causing the phone to crash will never be reached? or?
OrionTC said:
Thats awesome!
I too would love to know the step by step for this...
Am i to assume with only the common apps moved the 130mb cap causing the phone to crash will never be reached? or?
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I posted on the MoDaCo forum on how to do this for Google Earth, it assumes that you followed all of Paul's instructions in the thread (the original data is backed up to data.bak) and that you are familiar with using adb.
adb shell
su
You can check the amount of space utilised by your applications in the /data/data directory by doing the following:
cd /data/data
du -d1
To move Google Earth out of the way
rm -R /data/data/com.google.earth
ln -s /data/data.bak/com.google.earth /data/data/com.google.earth
Disclaimer: If you are uncomfortable doing any of this, don't do it!
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I posted on the MoDaCo forum on how to do this for Google Earth, it assumes that you followed all of Paul's instructions in the thread (the original data is backed up to data.bak) and that you are familiar with using adb.
adb shell
su
You can check the amount of space utilised by your applications in the /data/data directory by doing the following:
cd /data/data
du -d1
To move Google Earth out of the way
rm -R /data/data/com.google.earth
ln -s /data/data.bak/com.google.earth /data/data/com.google.earth
Disclaimer: If you are uncomfortable doing any of this, don't do it!
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Yeah probably best to wait for this to be incorporated into a ROM build or something. Not very familiar with linux commands if anything went wrong id be clueless.
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Yeah probably best to wait for this to be incorporated into a ROM build or something. Not very familiar with linux commands if anything went wrong id be clueless.
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I suggest, if you are not comfortable with these commands, just don't do it! Just root the phone and use MinFreeMem from market with aggressive preset, it will be quite enough speed!
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Ofcourse there's a point in advertising free stuff. It sets the bars higher for the commercial stuff.
I don't see how a launcher can start apps faster than another? The "performance difference" I noticed when comparing Launcher Pro to TouchWiz seemed to be the transitions, not the actual loading of apps. While it adds a slight delay, it has nothing to do with performance. TW is a "smoother" experience than Launcher Pro, which is what I like about it (and which is also why I forgive it for looking way too much like iOS).
Would be interesting (but the time needed puts me off the idea ) to make a true comparison of the huge amount of alternative home screens available.
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I see that exiting from apps to home-screen is faster with LauncherPro, than with TWLauncher, thats why I prefer LauncherPro.
Did you noticed any differences in battery life?
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Did you noticed any differences in battery life?
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Looks to be same as before
vitalij said:
Yes there is one hidden thing here: If you have lots of heavy programs like some games, some navigation progs, google earth, you must keep those heavy programs in the old location. I did exactly this - moved to NAND everything except Google Earth, some Gameloft games and navigation. So now I have really fast phone, all my programs, and there is still plenty of space on NAND memory.
And it is just standart/stock XXJF3 firmware btw
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Quick question: I am assuming that if you install something big, say Google Earth AFTER you have done Paul's mod, you will then have to move it from dbdata/data to data/data.bak and link it to /data/data from there. As it will go by default to dbdata. Correct?
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I suggest, if you are not comfortable with these commands, just don't do it! Just root the phone and use MinFreeMem from market with aggressive preset, it will be quite enough speed!
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Hi There,
Wasn't able to find MinFreeMem in Android Market - do you have any tips for me to find it?
Regards,
giantroxx
minfreemem does not work in galaxy anyway.. it does not reset it at reboot. recommend you get autokill it does the same thing and does work at reboot.
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minfreemem does not work in galaxy anyway.. it does not reset it at reboot. recommend you get autokill it does the same thing and does work at reboot.
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Yeah that's true I start it manually after reboot. I think there are other programs that do same but work automatically after reboot.
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Man I love having everything that could be fun and useful on my G1, so far I am at 149 apps. How many does everyone else have? Also this doesnt hurt the SD card holding all this does it? =/
Anyways last night, some new apps came up like a G1 FTP Server for file transferring. So thats nifty. ConnectBot is good too.
Anyways just wondering, having so many apps, does it slow up the G1 any or can the G1 be like a PPC and handle all this? Open source android is nice but downside is, so many apps that have potential or worth putting on the G1 add up heh.
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Anyways just wondering, having so many apps, does it slow up the G1 any or can the G1 be like a PPC and handle all this? Open source android is nice but downside is, so many apps that have potential or worth putting on the G1 add up heh.
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There is a difference between how many applications you have installed versus how many applications you have running.
I tell people who ask that I have maybe 13k mp3's on my computer and the common response is "omg your computer must be so slow!"
wtf?
Users seem to correlate lots of stuff on device = slow device.
Correlation does not imply causation
Ah while I understand your post, the G1 is a tad different. Afterall the Apps ARE installed to the SD. As you know the G1 itself if "running" too many apps would cause it to lag up. However having alot of apps too I dont know if it slows down the G1 by trying to have it all show up or so. Imagine this. You have EVERYTHING on your Windows Desktop, that has been known to cause slowdowns too, Its not running but the system still maps to it and tracks it so to say.
Plus some apps install and auto run in the background. Since its loading off the SD, depending on the class of your SD it could cause sluggishness I would say.
Not sure what the count is exactly, but I have backups on my sd card, my netbook, and my laptop. Sometimes I download apps, back them up, uninstall and just store them on my comp just incase I might need them someday. Haha
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Users seem to correlate lots of stuff on device = slow device.
Correlation does not imply causation
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I have ten apps installed.
By the way, while apps that are not running will not cause slowdown perse, some apps start background services or periodic recurring timers (e.g. Loopt, Twidroid) which can cause slowdown.
I have 368 Applications. only problem- HOME SCREEN RELOADS AFTER COMING OUT OF APP
368? WOW You must install everything that sucks too. =p
What do you have thats interesting maybe? =D
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368? WOW You must install everything that sucks too. =p
What do you have thats interesting maybe? =D
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i have a lot of things. All gameloft games(Bought it from xda user gameloft) all ea games(from handloft.com), Snesoid, Gnesoid, Jrioni terminal(for gp2x), Sim Checker Cupcake, Nesoid,Youtube downloader, Steamy window, Spray can, Meridian, Mechanics TOuch, Military Madness, VNC Viewer, Phone MY PC, IM+, Better Keyboard, Blues etc. These are some of the apps i can remember. I dont install apps that suck . They are 368 +. A week ago with aTrackdog they were 368. I use Swapper, SetCPU to run my phone smoothly. They really help. I have windows X, Debian etc. running too. 1200+ songs, 3+ movies
Swapper, what about the warnings about how bad that actually is?
Also Windows X and Debian, tell me how are those and is there a guide somewhere to get info on it and easy to setup?
Military Madness...? WHERE?! I love games like Battle Isle!
SetCPU tell me about it some, Ive been wondering about it but is OCing really worth it on the G1?
Kk I found a xwindows/debian guide.
http://www.androidfanatic.com/cms/community-forums.html?func=view&catid=9&id=1615
Everything i use is worth using coz i have to use them regularly. About swapper, most SD cards todayhave the power to cover the damage done(most class 6). So its worth. You should have root to enjoy your g1. SETCPU- my g1 is clocked at 528 MHz permanently so i dont experience lag.
Btw as you can tell another point of this thread is to get info on apps. =)
But online, got a link for a good class 6? Ive had issues trying to determine WHICH is a class 6 or what.. Upgraded to a 4GB Sandisk which runs better but I still am not sure its class.
Also Doesnt the setCPU drain your battery more? Any risks on that?
dont worry anout battery it is not much affected
i have about 135 apps
I am very picky about the apps I install on my devices. According to aTrackDog, there are 46 on my G1, but I probably use half of them. Time to do some cleaning
charnsingh_online said:
I have 368 Applications. only problem- HOME SCREEN RELOADS AFTER COMING OUT OF APP
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This makes me feel a little better since I only have 314 lol. My ext3 partition is 2GB with Debian installed. No need to really delete anything
How many others here use SetCPU, whats stable, a solid increase and wont hurt the G1 or battery? Also yea, its nice to compare notes heh. Keep installing new apps all the time.
I WISH however that the market was easier to navagate tho.. Like add a "Apps added since you last checked" type of thing or DATE them. "Apps added on "x" date" cause its a pain to track them since looking last with so much junkware being added and your limited to scrolling. =/
atrackdog is least a VERY helpful tool.. if your G1 doesnt know its installed in the market. Least this app does..
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I WISH however that the market was easier to navagate tho..
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Some people still navigate the Market on their phone? I always use Cyrket (Newest Content category seems close to what you're looking for) and then when I find something of interest search for it directly on the phone.
Oh that website is nice, I have seen it, but doesnt help TOO much for installing it to your G1 Not like you can click on the website and have it install to the G1 like Xbox live lol.
I have been playing around with ATT Android phones over the last several months. I started with a Nexus One, nice phone very fast. Then purchased an Aria for the fun of it... again fast phone but too small. Lastly yesterday I picked up the Captivate, and with a 1ghz, the Aria seems faster than this phone. Seems to lag between screens and boot. Is it just me or anyone else see this? Is there a quick fix for this? Anyone?
Oh I hate touchwiz, worthless crap for a UI.....loaded ADW launcher instead
thanks
Larry
It really is a software thing with Touchwiz. After I installed Launcher pro I never looked back and it has been a lot faster.
There may be a bunch of apps running slowing the phone down. I have Advanced task killer, and kill a bunch of app every once in a while when It starts feeling slow.
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It really is a software thing with Touchwiz. After I installed Launcher pro I never looked back and it has been a lot faster.
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Where did you find this Launcher pro, and how much faster is it than stock?
Check #17 out in this post. The Euro version owners have known about this for some time.
There are some fixes - but, most likely not until we can get some custom ROMS.
Launcher Pro helps a lot, just search the app market for it.
Ive been doing side by side comparisons of my N1 running CM6 and the Captivate all day. The Captivate is faster 95% of the time. Both running ADW launcher.
You can load ADW or LauncherPro from the Market. When you set as default home, you will not be able to use "Touchwiz" widgets.......
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Where did you find this Launcher pro, and how much faster is it than stock?
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A crapload faster. After installing it, the device is like lightning , haven't had any pauses. Just search the market. Think it is a beta.
Yes to all new samsung galaxy S owners get rid of the ****ty touchwiz launcher it sucks and its laggy as hell, get launcher pro instead.
whats the best widget pack to replace the touchwiz ones
is there a way to port sense widgets? (push from a htc/pull to captivate or something)
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whats the best widget pack to replace the touchwiz ones
is there a way to port sense widgets? (push from a htc/pull to captivate or something)
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eventually. Widget packs.. hmm you should just try out new stuff, explore and what not
Also, new news so to speak - LauncherPro will be coming out with a lot of integrated widgets that are similar to the SenseUI widgets.
Koxx - here on xda has made some really great widgets. I think I have purchased them all. MoonSpoon (used to be a very active themer and now is a lurker due to being busy elsewhere) made themes for all of Koxx's widgets.
If I just want to go back to the default Android drawer can I install the Launcher.apk from a Cyanogen 5.8 rom?
Even with Launcher Pro there seems to be some lagging issues. On the Vibrant thread, the a subject on Fixing Stalling/Lagging. On the vibrant it seems you can partition your SD card and have the files run off of it. They said that it runs faster on the sd card then the built in memory card. I trying to do this procedure but kind of stuck. I can't seem to get the phone in download mode. Still searching around if i can find out i let you guys know. Meantime check out the thread and if you find out or know how post it up on the Captivate side. Not much instructions on "HOW TO MOD CAPTIVATE" in our thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724251
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Even with Launcher Pro there seems to be some lagging issues. On the Vibrant thread, the a subject on Fixing Stalling/Lagging. On the vibrant it seems you can partition your SD card and have the files run off of it. They said that it runs faster on the sd card then the built in memory card. I trying to do this procedure but kind of stuck. I can't seem to get the phone in download mode. Still searching around if i can find out i let you guys know. Meantime check out the thread and if you find out or know how post it up on the Captivate side. Not much instructions on "HOW TO MOD CAPTIVATE" in our thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724251
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Arguably, I don't see why this wouldn't work on the Captivate. Granted, I'm not going to be the one to try it right now, but it really should work just like that. Anyone feeling ballsy enough to give it a try?
I trying to get it done. but i am just not sure how it's done. trying to follow procedure but can't get pass step one. LOL
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Arguably, I don't see why this wouldn't work on the Captivate. Granted, I'm not going to be the one to try it right now, but it really should work just like that. Anyone feeling ballsy enough to give it a try?
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I did it. It works great.
No more stalling at the moment, and my Quadrant score went up 100 points as well.
But be sure to follow the steps, and make sure you have enough room in data/data, and keep in mind that you can still fill data/data up with app installation. Google Earth is particularly bad about eating space here.
And keep in mind that the Galaxy S people that did this find that eventually it starts to stall again, so this is a band-aid.
When I get home tonight, I'll try the better, more effective SD card method, don't have an easy way to make an /ext3 partition on an SD card at the moment.
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I trying to get it done. but i am just not sure how it's done. trying to follow procedure but can't get pass step one. LOL
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You need an external SD card, a program that will let you partition the ext3 format, and then you just need to follow their commands. Where are you getting stuck, maybe I can help guide you.
Croak said:
I did it. It works great.
No more stalling at the moment, and my Quadrant score went up 100 points as well.
But be sure to follow the steps, and make sure you have enough room in data/data, and keep in mind that you can still fill data/data up with app installation. Google Earth is particularly bad about eating space here.
And keep in mind that the Galaxy S people that did this find that eventually it starts to stall again, so this is a band-aid.
When I get home tonight, I'll try the better, more effective SD card method, don't have an easy way to make an /ext3 partition on an SD card at the moment.
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There's a few tools, but most will require a live CD to utilize.
Does anyone really think that the lag problems can be fixed by an official firmware update form Samsung? It seems that this is a hardware problem only: Samsung chose slow memory for the filesystem on which /data/ lives. How can this be overcome in an official update? Sure, there are some hacks out there that require buying an sdcard (and then never removing it) or using up the very last bit of NAND which will surely cause problems for some with lots of apps or with apps that have large databases. These hacks will probably work well for some, but Samsung won't do anything unless it is transparent to the end-user and works well for everyone. Is it even possible for them to do it?
I think there's a guide somewhere here that changes the filesystem to EXT3/EXT4 which improves performance.
Im very confident Samsung vill fix the "lags" hell Im on stock firmware and just by using luncher pro the lags are much less of a problem. Lets wait for the first official firmware update before we all start to panic
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I think there's a guide somewhere here that changes the filesystem to EXT3/EXT4 which improves performance.
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I think ext3/ext4 is part of one of the hacks involving an external sd card. It probably works very well, but is not an option for Samsung unless they decide to give every one a free sd card.
Fojae said:
Does anyone really think that the lag problems can be fixed by an official firmware update form Samsung? It seems that this is a hardware problem only: Samsung chose slow memory for the filesystem on which /data/ lives. How can this be overcome in an official update? Sure, there are some hacks out there that require buying an sdcard (and then never removing it) or using up the very last bit of NAND which will surely cause problems for some with lots of apps or with apps that have large databases. These hacks will probably work well for some, but Samsung won't do anything unless it is transparent to the end-user and works well for everyone. Is it even possible for them to do it?
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There is no question that there is, nearly terrible, issues with stock I/O performance. Everything else is zippy, even more so when you use LauncherPro with cached pages. Games are super fast, which makes me think that the memory speed isn't an issue for long-term performance. I do wish the internal storage was NAND, but other than that I think the hardware is top-notch and I wouldn't trade it away.
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There is no question that there is, nearly terrible, issues with stock I/O performance. Everything else is zippy, even more so when you use LauncherPro with cached pages. Games are super fast, which makes me think that the memory speed isn't an issue for long-term performance. I do wish the internal storage was NAND, but other than that I think the hardware is top-notch and I wouldn't trade it away.
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I agreed that everything but the io is excellent. However I rely on several i/o intensive apps like calendar, shopping lists, task managers, and all of these really suffer. I hope I am wrong and that samsung find a way to fix it.
I have no lag and I'm not using any fix.
just use this fix, and you wont get any lag
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724251
even without that fix, you don't get lag if you use any of the many available task killers softwares
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I have no lag and I'm not using any fix.
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same here.
the lag is caused by the touchwiz interface over android ....remove touchwiz and it will be as fast as the nexus
As mentioned the third party stuff isn't really amazingly optimized at this point, but I reckon just changing the values at which levels android frees up memory should take care of most lags, even on stock firmwares.
Running JM2 with ext4 fix and AutoKiller I hardly ever notice any lags on my phone, if anything some apps sometimes takes half a second too long to load but it's nothing I can't live with.
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the lag is caused by the touchwiz interface over android ....remove touchwiz and it will be as fast as the nexus
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Saying that there is no lag for anybody just doesn't work. There are many, many documented reports of the lag here, youtube, other forums, etc... It's a known problem. I am using LauncherPro and I still have lag problems. Most notably, when I long press on a screen to create a new shortcut, it takes launcherpro sometimes about 15 seconds to bring up the list of applications. There are many other case of things taking 2 seconds when they should be nearly instantaneous.
The NAND fix does work: as a test I moved the Astrid task manager database to /dbdata and now Astrid flies. However, I don't believe that Samsung will be able to use the NAND memory as part of an official fix. Does anyone have any ideas or predictions on how Samsung can solve this problem?
I use Launcher Pro, task killer and still have SEVERE lag. Also very curious as to what solution Samsung mighy have up their sleeves and when we can hope it will br released.
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I'm starting to think that people who say they see no lag at all without any fix are either trying to convince themselves or just lack the ability to notice. I know I'm practically calling people delusional here, no offense, but come on... that would mean there's like a 1% of all shipped units that mount superfast internal SDs, that's unlikely.
Internal SDs are slow as &%£$. EXT4 on external SD fixes the problem for good. Maybe we're just gonna have to live with it...
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I'm starting to think that people who say they see no lag at all without any fix are either trying to convince themselves or just lack the ability to notice. I know I'm practically calling people delusional here, no offense, but come on... that would mean there's like a 1% of all shipped units that mount superfast internal SDs, that's unlikely.
Internal SDs are slow as &%£$. EXT4 on external SD fixes the problem for good. Maybe we're just gonna have to live with it...
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Yeah they all lag out of the box, no one got lucky and got sent a special/custom version with different hardware that doesn't lag.
Some people obviously are more acceptable of lag and don't call a small delay lag etc . There are some of course that after spending a lot on a device don't want to admit its flawed in some areas so keep saying mine doesn't lag etc, people can be strange sometimes .
Not all have the 10 seconds of black screens etc that you see on some of the youtube videos but without applying any fixes they all have delays here and there.
I agree with the above 2 posters, lag is VERY obvious out of the box. I came from Winmo 6 (where lag is the norm and not the exception...lol), so when I first got the SGS I too was very tolerant of the lag and was wondering what the heck people was complaining about.
Then I got to try out my friend's Desire. Everything just "moves" so fluidly...opening app drawer, changing wallpapers, opening the dialer, contact page, handcent etc. When I got back to my SGS I realize what I was missing. The SGS on paper is more powerful than Desire but doesn't perform as sweetly, UI-wise.
So far, mimocan fix + autokiller maybe mitigate 80% of it. But sometimes still lags badly, for eg; when adding shortcut ...the application list takes ages to come up. or adding widgets.
Anytime a new firmware leaks and we hear of people saying lag is fix...but I am still sceptical. I am on JG5 and things are still as before. Still need to apply fix.
With the external sd card partitioned to ext4, do you need a fast sd card? or would a class 2 work just as well for this lag fix?
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, for eg; when adding shortcut ...the application list takes ages to come up. or adding widgets.
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Um, I'm on JM2, with no lag-fixes, and my applications list for shortcuts come up instantly. Do you want me to make a youtube vid of it?
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Um, I'm on JM2, with no lag-fixes, and my applications list for shortcuts come up instantly. Do you want me to make a youtube vid of it?
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sure, if you feel like doing it
how many apps do you have installed, btw?
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sure, if you feel like doing it
how many apps do you have installed, btw?
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quite a few, but not a lot. I'll post a vid in the morning. Anything else besides adding widgets and shortcuts?
Check my Youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fds9eccI9OA
I did a FR before flashing with Kies, and after flashing. Also did a clean install of all apps and settings and a cache wipe.
maybe 50 pics, 50 mp3s and 100 apps and 4 widgets running.
This video was taken just 15 minutes after a reboot.
Do people consider this whining?
EDIT: Spend 6 minutes looking through the video. The lags gets worse and worse.
That is the worst lag I have ever seen, I understand if you are upset, for me the lag is 1-2 second pauses now and then.
Was it as bad on 2.1?
Looks bad. Anyways try getting rid of the batt app that lets you know of the batt percentage on the notifications tray. I got rid of mine and the phone is much quicker.
Good luck i feel for you buddy.
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Something is hogging the cpu.. Or a process is creating a problem. What happens after you clean the memory in the taskmanager? This isn't normal.
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Whats the icon in the top right hand corner? And this SHOULD have been posted to the other lag threads.
andrewluecke said:
Whats the icon in the top right hand corner? And this SHOULD have been posted to the other lag threads.
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The icon is just the alarm clock.
Ending all apps does not solve much. The lag returns almost immediately.
Was this lag meant to be so, i mean is it intended to blame the phone? I'm sure this is not normal, and have never seen lag like this. Mostly its 1sec (i know many complain about this) but blink twice and it will load
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The icon is just the alarm clock.
Ending all apps does not solve much. The lag returns almost immediately.
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What apps do you have installed?
And yes, creating your own thread is whining.. This thread should be marked as a duplicate..
andrewluecke said:
What apps do you have installed?
And yes, creating your own thread is whining.. This thread should be marked as a duplicate..
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Sorry, but I have to disagree. I think this is relevant enough to put in a separate thread.
My apps: http://www.appbrain.com/user/borchgrevink/apps-on-the-phone (minus Angry birds)
The lag was almost like this also with jf3 and jm1.
Not many apps running simultaneously, so I don't see the problem...
Not to disparage what you're experiencing there mate but I flashed JP6 yesterday and I can honestly say so far it's been smooth sailing even without any lag-fixes, as opposed to when I was on 2.1 just prior and things were about the same as what you've got here. Did you do a TitaniumBackup restore or anything?
Unimaginative said:
Not to disparage what you're experiencing there mate but I flashed JP6 yesterday and I can honestly say so far it's been smooth sailing even without any lag-fixes, as opposed to when I was on 2.1 just prior and things were about the same as what you've got here. Did you do a TitaniumBackup restore or anything?
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Clean install of everything.
adzam3 said:
Looks bad. Anyways try getting rid of the batt app that lets you know of the batt percentage on the notifications tray. I got rid of mine and the phone is much quicker.
Good luck i feel for you buddy.
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Did that and no difference...
borchgrevink said:
Clean install of everything.
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Hmmmm, the only thing I can think of (and this'll probably sound silly) but you might want to try without a SIM in it. I remember people with Milestones having damaged/faulty SIMs which would cause their phones to slow right down.
Also, sorry but I have to admit I got a good giggle from the fingers tapping at ~4:30 :3
borchgrevink said:
Sorry, but I have to disagree. I think this is relevant enough to put in a separate thread.
My apps: http://www.appbrain.com/user/borchgrevink/apps-on-the-phone (minus Angry birds)
The lag was almost like this also with jf3 and jm1.
Not many apps running simultaneously, so I don't see the problem...
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It depends WHAT you are running. In your movie you say stuff like "wow, 5 apps running", but widgetlocker for instance I know slows the phone down a bit.
The number of apps means very little (I can make a computer lag by encoding a video and messing around in photoshop too). It's what you are running that matters. Maybe you should try to work out which applications are causing issues (there is a good reason why I got rid of widgetlocker though).
Anyway, this thread should be closed as a dupe. It doesn't warrant it's own thread, as you aren't a celebrity, and other people have already posted video's onto the existing threads.Your case is no more important than the others.
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Clean install of everything.
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That's part of the problem, it probably depends on what you are running, so whatever was slowing down your phone significantly before, has probably been reinstalled..
andrewluecke said:
That's part of the problem, it probably depends on what you are running, so whatever was slowing down your phone significantly before, has probably been reinstalled..
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Wasn't running anything after fresh boot. The video is from first screen taps on this freshly booted phone.
EDIT: Removing Widget Locker does not help... Tried that.
here it's unbelievable stable(jpk+oclf+4wks+120apps), guess it was a wise choice not going jp6/m.
But why are there 5 apps active? I have several active widgets but they don't show up as a regular process(es) here.. I'm sure that my phone would lagg too while running 2 games, 2 web browsers and navigational software on the background. =/
I doubt it was acting like this from flash off right?
Do you consider that the hardware may have been damaged!? You have your warranty, get another one .
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Wasn't running anything after fresh boot. The video is from first screen taps on this freshly booted phone.
EDIT: Removing Widget Locker does not help... Tried that.
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Well.. That's my point.. Your apps must be doing something that is sucking up your CPU... because I'm running Messaging, Launcherpro, Jabberoid (not listed in active apps), sipdroid (not listed in active apps), and a live wallpaper. I suspect that your apps are possibly running a few things not listed in task manager.. Also, are you running custom widgets (I'm not using any, which might be adding to the jumpiness). I also only have 50 apps.
I have noticed your app list contains MANY custom widgets..
So, I suggest working out what specifically is causing your issues. But I can honestly say I don't get lag like that on my phone..
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Well.. That's my point.. Your apps must be doing something that is sucking up your CPU... because I'm running Messaging, Launcherpro, Jabberoid (not listed in active apps), sipdroid (not listed in active apps), and a live wallpaper. I suspect that your apps are possibly running a few things not listed in task manager.. Also, are you running custom widgets (I'm not using any, which might be adding to the jumpiness). I also only have 50 apps.
I have noticed your app list contains MANY custom widgets..
So, I suggest working out what specifically is causing your issues. But I can honestly say I don't get lag like that on my phone..
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Well, the apps "running" in task manager are only the six most recent apps. I am only using 4-5 widgets on this video. I have also tried without any widgets. Same problem.
Will get a new replacement phone (have made a deal with Samsung, just waiting for a new one).
As you know, the fact that bootloaders are unlocked leaves an open door for third party firmwares (custom ROMs) to be applied to the phone.
Usually custom ROMs expand the functionalities of the phone and correct some of the software shortcomings. Even though the phone is only recently in the market, there may be some feature wishes and some complaints already.
In short, what features shoud a custom ROM add and what shortcomings should it correct?
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With the not-so-last gen processor the Play has, it is probably necessary to be able to overclock it.
I would like a minimal ROM (aka without bloatware) as it seems that the booting time of stock ROMs is incredibly high and it is caused by bloatware.
I don't have the phone yet (it's on its way ^^) but I have read things about the brightness setting being too dim and not changeable.
Logseman said:
As you know, the fact that bootloaders are unlocked leaves an open door for third party firmwares (custom ROMs) to be applied to the phone.
Usually custom ROMs expand the functionalities of the phone and correct some of the software shortcomings. Even though the phone is only recently in the market, there may be some feature wishes and some complaints already.
In short, what features shoud a custom ROM add and what shortcomings should it correct?
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With the not-so-last gen processor the Play has, it is probably necessary to be able to overclock it.
I would like a minimal ROM (aka without bloatware) as it seems that the booting time of stock ROMs is incredibly high and it is caused by bloatware.
I don't have the phone yet (it's on its way ^^) but I have read things about the brightness setting being too dim and not changeable.
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I may be working on an overclock kernel this weekend, it all depends on family stuff plus footy.
MOOOOOOORE MEMORY i dont even need a custom rom, just wish i had more than 40mb free ram at some point lol
AndroHero said:
MOOOOOOORE MEMORY i dont even need a custom rom, just wish i had more than 40mb free ram at some point lol
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Doesn't sound right. I usually have over 200 free when the phones idle and no where near full when using FPSE etc.
Disable auto brightness and can set it manual (and increase more brightness).
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As mentioned, a bloat free rom. Pure Android port maybe?
There should be another loader than play, something thats able to load psx,snes,mame (single games) and every other games u installed by opening the pad. With the possibility to add/remove stuff after u install it.
Overclock is mentioned. (Only 1500 in quadrant original??) FPS is okay though.
(I hope wolves - sunderland is canceled, so we have something to look forward too.)
finty said:
Doesn't sound right. I usually have over 200 free when the phones idle and no where near full when using FPSE etc.
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I think he's refering to Internal Storage rather than RAM.
Since we suffer from very low internal storage, it would be great if a new ROM would provide something similar to the app2sd application (forces apps to install all data to SD). Might be a big ask though?
Rixter757 said:
I think he's refering to Internal Storage rather than RAM.
Since we suffer from very low internal storage, it would be great if a new ROM would provide something similar to the app2sd application (forces apps to install all data to SD). Might be a big ask though?
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Sure you can move most app data to the SD from settings AFAIK. Bit of a pain though so installing to SD automatically would be nice.
finty said:
Sure you can move most app data to the SD from settings AFAIK. Bit of a pain though so installing to SD automatically would be nice.
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Yuck, I got that wrong I thought app2sd allowed the footprint part of the installation to be mostly moved to SD. Kinda hoped the 30Mb of Asphalt etc cud be reduced to <1Mb or sumthin. Daft now that I think of it.
I agree then, no point in app2sd cuz I manually move the data when I install stuff anyway.
Admin, can someone wipe my replies to this cuz it's only taking up space on what shud be a valuable thread!!
1, faster boot-up time.
2, ability to pick the games you want to have in the games launcher (or a new launcher).
3, widgets from desire.
4, R/L buttons as camera buttons when active.
5, R/L buttons as volume when camera not active, i find the original volume buttons a pain, even more when you have a case/shell on
6, brighter screen for them sunny days.
Rixter757 said:
I think he's refering to Internal Storage rather than RAM.
Since we suffer from very low internal storage, it would be great if a new ROM would provide something similar to the app2sd application (forces apps to install all data to SD). Might be a big ask though?
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Nope im talking about ram. If you guys have issues with storage, fire up adb, connect your device. And input.
adb shell
$ pm setinstalllocation2
$ exit
This will force all apps to be allowed to install to the sd card, and games like ashpalt take less than a mb
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AndroHero said:
Nope im talking about ram. If you guys have issues with storage, fire up adb, connect your device. And input.
adb shell
$ pm setinstalllocation2
$ exit
This will force all apps to be allowed to install to the sd card, and games like ashpalt take less than a mb
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Nice tip cheers lad. Still not seeing how you are having problems with ram usage though, I haven't encountered any. If anything I am constantly surprised at the amount I have free when gaming etc.
Nope im talking about ram. If you guys have issues with storage, fire up adb, connect your device. And input.
adb shell
$ pm setinstalllocation2
$ exit
This will force all apps to be allowed to install to the sd card, and games like ashpalt take less than a mb
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Nice tip cheers lad. Still not seeing how you are having problems with ram usage though, I haven't encountered any. If anything I am constantly surprised at the amount I have free when gaming etc.
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Maybe its cuz i have 200+ apps installed lol
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bitme30 said:
As mentioned, a bloat free rom. Pure Android port maybe?
There should be another loader than play, something thats able to load psx,snes,mame (single games) and every other games u installed by opening the pad. With the possibility to add/remove stuff after u install it.
Overclock is mentioned. (Only 1500 in quadrant original??) FPS is okay though.
(I hope wolves - sunderland is canceled, so we have something to look forward too.)
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well with my fone rooted and afew things gone such as timescape
i get 1800+ in quadrant
but as far as custom roms i would love the miui rom
i had it on my x10 and thought it was exellent
i like the look and how fast and vibrant it was
so come on tripNraver or someone else port it over plz
App2EXT
As I hate the original android app2sd... as all widgets get broken by this method...
From what I've heard, since Verizon has fallen asleep.
1. Bare bone rom. Like to where you have to install gapps and other stuff. Only to have the apps android comes with.
2. R1 as take picture and L1 as focus.
3. Ability to add any shortcut to the "game app," forgot what it was called. Whether it be a app or game.
4. No overclock applied. Let the user add a overclocking app if they want.
5. Power control widget in the status bar.
6. And supper user of coarse
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i want a stock android tbh, STOCK; and of-course, an overclocking module
id love an option to disable data traffic automatically when the phones screen is turned off, if this could be built into a custom stock gingerbread rom. the reason that would be awsome is cause it would double your batterylife and save using a widget and having to manually turn it on and off wasting time.
also R1 for taking picture and L1 for focus
having a battery percentage in the status bar would be amazing ( i know theres apps to do this but again if it was built in the rom as stock)
I would love a better keyboard, i came from an iphone and androids keyboard is just not accurate enough.
thanks in advance whoever takes the time to make this possible i understand it takes alot of time and effort to help others but rest assured it also makes many people happy . I wish sony would have released this phone in a more polished state it feels half finished and fragmented with all the apps and games markets
CM7 or MIUI with apps2ext+
Overclocking kernel with CIFS
enough said..
FrAsErTaG said:
CM7 or MIUI with apps2ext+
Overclocking kernel with CIFS
enough said..
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I can agree with that