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Lag? What lag?

Is it me or has this so called lag been blown completely out of proportion with the SGS? I used to have a HTC Hero, I tell you, it's like going from riding a snail to a rocket fuselage. That phone was so slow, a phone may I add which only a year ago was seen as the 'iPhone killer'.
Please are there any previous HTC Hero users who now own a SGS? You have to speak out!
I mean sure, I've used a HTC Desire, it's very fast. But the only difference I have noticed is that on the SGS sometimes Apps take around 3secs longer to open than they should. That's it!! I mean, why are you all complaining so much! It's just as fast as the Desire except that point.
I have now had the SGS for 2 weeks, I haven't noticed any considerable slowdown. It works great! Why are you all complaining like babies? Have you installed Crysis 2 on your SGS or something, obviously your phone would never work again if you did that. Before anybody asks, I have made no changes to my SGS. I have an unlocked SGS, still on Touchwiz, no flash, no root. I don't even use task killer for God's sake. Please would someone explain to me what the big deal is?

What you have to realise is that it's not an always persistent problem. The phone in general is extremely fast, however with earlier firmwares the phone does not free up memory effectively. 3 seconds is nothing, but I recall sometimes waiting 10-15 seconds for the Dialer to launch. And when the memory is really really clogged up, it's a complete pain even pressing the home screen button (waiting 10 seconds to go to home isn't pretty either). For a phone with so much power, do you really think this is normal?

The difference must just be that I'm not a heavy app user. I still have the stock firmware the phone came with. Never had a 10 second delay with anything. Never noticed any sort of build up of lag. It works great! Do you guys install like 50 apps on your phones or something? Clearly that must be your problem.

I have never had any problems either (other than with flaky GPS).
Someone told me how to replicate the lag issue, and it boiled down to having 8-odd apps running in the background at once. I would expect the same on my multi-core 4GB RAM iMac, let alone a phone with 256MB RAM.
Not saying others are only having problems with the above situation, but it does seem like there are specific factors that cause it, which is why a lot of people have had no problems.

The phone has 512mb ram.
Just that currently, HiMem is not available (will be in froyo as a default, and if we're lucky, in the JF6 firmware as well)

Pika007 said:
The phone has 512mb ram.
Just that currently, HiMem is not available (will be in froyo as a default, and if we're lucky, in the JF6 firmware as well)
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I know, but until we can actually use it, we are limited to 256MB (or was it 232MB?)

SGS has 512MB RAM

Robin.B said:
What you have to realise is that it's not an always persistent problem. The phone in general is extremely fast, however with earlier firmwares the phone does not free up memory effectively. 3 seconds is nothing, but I recall sometimes waiting 10-15 seconds for the Dialer to launch. And when the memory is really really clogged up, it's a complete pain even pressing the home screen button (waiting 10 seconds to go to home isn't pretty either). For a phone with so much power, do you really think this is normal?
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+1
And although I am not a really heavy app user, I am a heavy user, and it wasn't hard to make the phone lag quite heavily at times, so I'd say no, it has not been blown out of proportion.

Robin.B; said:
What you have to realise is that it's not an always persistent problem. The phone in general is extremely fast, however with earlier firmwares the phone does not free up memory effectively. 3 seconds is nothing, but I recall sometimes waiting 10-15 seconds for the Dialer to launch. And when the memory is really really clogged up, it's a complete pain even pressing the home screen button (waiting 10 seconds to go to home isn't pretty either). For a phone with so much power, do you really think this is normal?
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+1.
More serious in some applications like mails, RSS reader. It's so slow that I don't even use my SGS for my mails, or to read news anymore.

Tachikoma_kun said:
I have never had any problems either (other than with flaky GPS).
Someone told me how to replicate the lag issue, and it boiled down to having 8-odd apps running in the background at once. I would expect the same on my multi-core 4GB RAM iMac, let alone a phone with 256MB RAM.
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Tachikoma_kun,
Please understand that Android does not work like the Mac OSX on an iMac, and that, if you open 8 odd apps in a row, you should _not_ have them all running in the background at once.
Android's memory management should close applications and free memory as needed. Processes will start if needed, be set to inactive as long as possible and killed if necessary. This works fine with other Android devices and obviously not with the Galaxy S.
You can read about the life cycle of Android Components at
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/fundamentals.html
Using a task killer to free up memory might make your Galaxy S faster than not using one, but this is still a lot less efficient than it should be. In a working Android system you should use the most out of your available memory and the system should stay fast as you open and switch between applications. You should never have to think about which applications are running or not running.
Again, this works just fine with other devices. If it does not work with the Galaxy S then this is a serious flaw in the system. The flaw might be related to the slow I/O on the internal SD, or maybe there is a firmware bug besides the I/O. But it is currently not working correctly.
If you have access to 256mb memory of RAM, and you use a task killer to always keep 100MB free, then you use your device like it only had 156MB.
I also do not believe that the average customer without a technical background is able to use a task killer without shooting himself in the foot. Without knowledge about what each application and service does, and how android manages background processes, how should a normal user know what he can kill and which services he should keep running?

lag problem blown out of proportion. May be froyo update will satisfy the hunger of these power hungary geeks.

lag problem blown out of proportion. May be froyo update will satisfy the hunger of these power hungary geeks.

eaglesteve said:
+1.
More serious in some applications like mails, RSS reader. It's so slow that I don't even use my SGS for my mails, or to read news anymore.
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I just don't get it. I've never had this problem. Emails and news update perfectly with no lag.

Enarca said:
I just don't get it. I've never had this problem. Emails and news update perfectly with no lag.
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Perhaps whether a person thinks it's slow or not depends on what that person was used to?

That is exactly what i was telling people.
I come from the HTC Athena, and OMG... that thing is like crawling on sand, even with its super duper 625 Mhz CPU which by then was supposed to be the state of the art.
yet everything i did was sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow, using the SGS was like smooth flowing water, everything is perfect in this phone out of the box.
Enarca said:
Is it me or has this so called lag been blown completely out of proportion with the SGS? I used to have a HTC Hero, I tell you, it's like going from riding a snail to a rocket fuselage. That phone was so slow, a phone may I add which only a year ago was seen as the 'iPhone killer'.
Please are there any previous HTC Hero users who now own a SGS? You have to speak out!
I mean sure, I've used a HTC Desire, it's very fast. But the only difference I have noticed is that on the SGS sometimes Apps take around 3secs longer to open than they should. That's it!! I mean, why are you all complaining so much! It's just as fast as the Desire except that point.
I have now had the SGS for 2 weeks, I haven't noticed any considerable slowdown. It works great! Why are you all complaining like babies? Have you installed Crysis 2 on your SGS or something, obviously your phone would never work again if you did that. Before anybody asks, I have made no changes to my SGS. I have an unlocked SGS, still on Touchwiz, no flash, no root. I don't even use task killer for God's sake. Please would someone explain to me what the big deal is?
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Im not a SGS owner but i keep noticing the reference to the desire. I did own a snapdragon device until about a week ago. (Droid Incredible). Switched to droid x. The only real reason i believe there is lag on the samsung is the touchwiz. The cpu&gpu in the SGS IS FAR SUPERIOR to that of the desire. Htc just has the most polished custom ui. If u get launcher pro id be willing to bet that lag is gonzola in a hurry. Maybe give this a try? Just trying to help my fellow androiders out. Goodluck fellas
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ksizzle9 said:
Im not a SGS owner but i keep noticing the reference to the desire. I did own a snapdragon device until about a week ago. (Droid Incredible). Switched to droid x. The only real reason i believe there is lag on the samsung is the touchwiz. The cpu&gpu in the SGS IS FAR SUPERIOR to that of the desire. Htc just has the most polished custom ui. If u get launcher pro id be willing to bet that lag is gonzola in a hurry. Maybe give this a try? Just trying to help my fellow androiders out. Goodluck fellas
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what made you choose a Droid X vs. a SGS i9000?
the 2 phones are almost identical, except for the camera.

the lag is very real.
try opening Dolphin HD and then closing it again .....about 8+ seconds to do either, and that's with nothing else open.
instantaneous on the nexus with 2.2.
some apps are much slower than others, some there is no difference, but even the default samsung apps such as phonebook have a good lag when switching between tabs.

eaglesteve said:
Perhaps whether a person thinks it's slow or not depends on what that person was used to?
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I agree. I'm guessing you haven't used/owned a HTC Hero? If so, you haven't experienced the PAIN!! lol.

On my side I don't have any heavy app, I don't do games, or HD stuff what I expect from my phone is to be able to show me my mail ... and that's where I have plenty of lag ( not all the time but everyday for sure).
Lag to open the mail, lag to delete the mail, lag to come back on the homescreen.
Up to 15 sec to come back from the settings menu.
My benchmark is the iphone 3GS but also the HTC P3600 and the HTC diamond which are not that fast
I have never been waiting so long in front of my phone.
Excuse me if I am working with my phone and I don't want to wait 10 sec all the time.
And stop insulting people who complains please
Oh and the comment about installing 50 apps .... please learn how android is supposed to work. I should be able to install 1000 app without any problem. Who care about the number of app installed ???
By the way, when I have a lot of lag I go in systempanel to see what it my amount of memory and it's around 30-50 Mb so it should not be a problem.

Anyone got a video of 2 vibrants

1 with the Lag fix and one without? I wanna see a vs video. Ive done all lag fixs and have not seen a difference other that quadrant scores. I never had lag to beging with even coming from a Nexus one running FRF91 Froyo.
I dont get the lag thing. Maybe a video could help me see the difference.
Where is the lag? All my menus open quick, apps open fast etc. When I did the lag fix I tested everything and it just all around felt the same... Not slow becasue I dont think it is either way, but not faster than without the lag fix. I just dont know if its worth the 1 gig or 512 mb rom.
A video would be cool, im sure no one has this or even 2 vibrants to test this out with.. I think it would really make a statement if a video showed the difference...
ANYONE? Or WILLING?

smashpunks said:
1 with the Lag fix and one without? I wanna see a vs video. Ive done all lag fixs and have not seen a difference other that quadrant scores. I never had lag to beging with even coming from a Nexus one running FRF91 Froyo.
I dont get the lag thing. Maybe a video could help me see the difference.
Where is the lag? All my menus open quick, apps open fast etc. When I did the lag fix I tested everything and it just all around felt the same... Not slow becasue I dont think it is either way, but not faster than without the lag fix. I just dont know if its worth the 1 gig or 512 mb rom.
A video would be cool, im sure no one has this or even 2 vibrants to test this out with.. I think it would really make a statement if a video showed the difference...
ANYONE? Or WILLING?
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not sure why your Vibrant doesn't exhibit the behavior but pretty sure that if it did you would notice.
Sorry no video.

smashpunks said:
1 with the Lag fix and one without? I wanna see a vs video. Ive done all lag fixs and have not seen a difference other that quadrant scores. I never had lag to beging with even coming from a Nexus one running FRF91 Froyo.
I dont get the lag thing. Maybe a video could help me see the difference.
Where is the lag? All my menus open quick, apps open fast etc. When I did the lag fix I tested everything and it just all around felt the same... Not slow becasue I dont think it is either way, but not faster than without the lag fix. I just dont know if its worth the 1 gig or 512 mb rom.
A video would be cool, im sure no one has this or even 2 vibrants to test this out with.. I think it would really make a statement if a video showed the difference...
ANYONE? Or WILLING?
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I completely agree with you. I had a mytouch before this phone and have yet to notice any sort of lag at all. Of course the lag fix didnt do anything for my phone, it was already faster than anything else out there anyways. Personally I dont use the lag fix any more because I dont see the point.

I did not notice any lag either for about the first 72 hours I had the phone. But once I started installing all the apps I usually use it became quite apparent. To the point that I had to go back to using my myTouch Slide until I could take the time to root and apply the fix. I experienced lag mostly with the market, corporate email and really any app that was pulling info from the web. The market was most noticeable with it taking a full 10 seconds to get into the download area. Corporate email was the deal breaker, it would take 5 to 10 seconds to delete each email and move onto the next one. Multiply that by 100 to 150 emails a day and you would want to pull your hair out! Luckily the lag fix corrected almost all the lag for me in comparison to my MT3G Slide. Now when I delete an email it instantly deletes it and moves on to the next one, phew!
As for other people not experiencing the lag that is a mystery. Perhaps it has something to do with specific applications our maybe the number of applications being installed. All I know is for me personally the phone was unusable in its original state, and the lag fix has made all the difference for me.
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dcam1075 said:
I did not notice any lag either for about the first 72 hours I had the phone. But once I started installing all the apps I usually use it became quite apparent. To the point that I had to go back to using my myTouch Slide until I could take the time to root and apply the fix. I experienced lag mostly with the market, corporate email and really any app that was pulling info from the web. The market was most noticeable with it taking a full 10 seconds to get into the download area. Corporate email was the deal breaker, it would take 5 to 10 seconds to delete each email and move onto the next one. Multiply that by 100 to 150 emails a day and you would want to pull your hair out! Luckily the lag fix corrected almost all the lag for me in comparison to my MT3G Slide. Now when I delete an email it instantly deletes it and moves on to the next one, phew!
As for other people not experiencing the lag that is a mystery. Perhaps it has something to do with specific applications our maybe the number of applications being installed. All I know is for me personally the phone was unusable in its original state, and the lag fix has made all the difference for me.
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I've had the phone since release and have aver 120 apps installed. Market downloads takes about 1 second. Every now and again some stuff takes a couple seconds, but only sometimes, most the time things are instantly ...
Don't know, like I said I think a videobwould be helpful ..
Or even a before lag fix test and a after lag fix test...

If you don't see a need, then don't use it. No one is forcing you.
Those of us who multi task heavily on our phones see a huge improvement.

Yep I too have had no clue what people were complaining about with the lag. I installed the lag fix anyways and didn't notice a difference. My best friend just bought her Vibrant a few weeks ago and I compared to hers last week and noticed no difference in between the two identical Vibrants.
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zaduma said:
If you don't see a need, then don't use it. No one is forcing you.
Those of us who multi task heavily on our phones see a huge improvement.
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What kinda response is this? I know I don't have to that's why I don't.. I multitask plenty I bet I use my phone more than you. 16 hours a day non stop. This ain't a contest I'm just trying to see some proof

zaduma said:
If you don't see a need, then don't use it. No one is forcing you.
Those of us who multi task heavily on our phones see a huge improvement.
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"Hi, i'm zaduma, a self-important armchair diagnostician. I know nothing about your usage, but I know you don't know how to use your phone and you're an idiot."
I multi-task "heavily" as well and have yet to experience the lag symptoms i've seen described here.
Maybe you should describe what "heavy" multitasking you're referring to so we can replicate it?

As others have stated I saw a huge lag in the market place, it was near impossible to navigate taking well over 5secs to load. I didn't have a huge issue with other apps, but some ran slower. I had a 870ish score in Quadrant.
I installed the LAG FIX, which if I remember right, is very similar to a ram hack. It basically moves it to write on the SD Card, which is much faster. I now score 2155 in Quadrant and the market place loading screen in there within 1-2secs of loading in.
I personally think its a great fix, not sure why yours didn't work.

oc3rulz said:
As others have stated I saw a huge lag in the market place, it was near impossible to navigate taking well over 5secs to load. I didn't have a huge issue with other apps, but some ran slower. I had a 870ish score in Quadrant.
I installed the LAG FIX, which if I remember right, is very similar to a ram hack. It basically moves it to write on the SD Card, which is much faster. I now score 2155 in Quadrant and the market place loading screen in there within 1-2secs of loading in.
I personally think its a great fix, not sure why yours didn't work.
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Wasn't there some post a few days ago about how easy it was to boost quadrant scores using software, without providing any actual real world improvements?
My market screen loads up in a second or two, and my quadrant score is 870ish.

reuthermonkey said:
Wasn't there some post a few days ago about how easy it was to boost quadrant scores using software, without providing any actual real world improvements?
My market screen loads up in a second or two, and my quadrant score is 870ish.
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anything is possible with software. I just know that my phone is working much better now, I wish it would help others too

smashpunks said:
What kinda response is this? I know I don't have to that's why I don't.. I multitask plenty I bet I use my phone more than you. 16 hours a day non stop. This ain't a contest I'm just trying to see some proof
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I was pointing out that if you don't see a need, and do not see a difference, then don't use it. What do you care if someone cranks out a video showing the difference? Would you use it then, even though you don't see it yourself? I mean do you seek validation for the other things you do in life from strangers on the internet?
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"Hi, i'm zaduma, a self-important armchair diagnostician. I know nothing about your usage, but I know you don't know how to use your phone and you're an idiot."
I multi-task "heavily" as well and have yet to experience the lag symptoms i've seen described here.
Maybe you should describe what "heavy" multitasking you're referring to so we can replicate it?
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"Hi I'm reuthermonkey, I imply that I am an enlightened guy, while making fun of others because it strokes my ego. Then I go about and put words in people's mouths."
Anyways, I do not use my phone straight for like 16 hours like OP, but when I do use it, I use it as such:
- Stream Pandora over Wifi (well I try to use wifi, tmob's 3g is **** around where i live.)
- Browse Web / browse marketplace for new apps I'd like to try.
- Test out those apps.
- Text my friends and family bout **** to catch up.
- Switch back to ninja's live every 4-5 minutes to play out some more stamina points.
And guess what guys, while I am switching between these I notice pretty substantial delays, 3, 4, 5 seconds sometimes. With lagfix it might lag for a second, maybe two.

zaduma said:
I was pointing out that if you don't see a need, and do not see a difference, then don't use it. What do you care if someone cranks out a video showing the difference? Would you use it then, even though you don't see it yourself? I mean do you seek validation for the other things you do in life from strangers on the internet?
"Hi I'm reuthermonkey, I imply that I am an enlightened guy, while making fun of others because it strokes my ego. Then I go about and put words in people's mouths."
Anyways, I do not use my phone straight for like 16 hours like OP, but when I do use it, I use it as such:
- Stream Pandora over Wifi (well I try to use wifi, tmob's 3g is **** around where i live.)
- Browse Web / browse marketplace for new apps I'd like to try.
- Test out those apps.
- Text my friends and family bout **** to catch up.
- Switch back to ninja's live every 4-5 minutes to play out some more stamina points.
And guess what guys, while I am switching between these I notice pretty substantial delays, 3, 4, 5 seconds sometimes. With lagfix it might lag for a second, maybe two.
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Nope. I never said I'd use it if I see a difference in a video. Now your putting words in my mouth saying now I need validation?
Dude take your negative butt outta here. I'm just saying I don't see no lag and wondering maybe I'm missing something.
****. Got a video? No cool, anywhere to check to see if I have lag and where the lag fix is supposed to blow my mind besides quadrant ....
Please no negativity ...
Edit: just tested with Pandora on and I'm right now typing away with ease. I actually believe its now faster with Pandora playing. Thanks for the tip..

For me the Lag Fix didn't make much of a difference. In fact I got random pauses on my phone more with the Lag Fix than I did with out it. The only difference between the two was the Market loaded faster and my games loaded slightly faster, like 1 sec faster. I used the Lag Fix for about 4 days then I got a low memory warning and couldn't get text.
Its def a step in the right direction but for me the cons out weighed the pros. Benchmarks are great and all but stable real world use trumps that.

I've heard a lot more negative issues from trying to do the lag fix. I understand WHY a fix is needed, but my phone performs more than adequate for me... MUCH faster than my Cyanogen Froyo G1 did.
Quadrant scores means absolutely nothing.
I too would like to see a video... mostly because I think it would point out that though there would be an increase in opening apps... thats it, apps open faster, wooptie doo.
I'm waiting for froyo since this will also incorporate samsungs fix for this (my guess since both have been announced for possible Sept release).

I don't think Zad's post was meant to be offensive.
Anyway, I have no lag on either my Bell or TMO Vibrant, although I confess that I don't install 100s of apps, but I do multitask and run intensive stuff like uncompressed 720p MKV files and The Sims 3!

I had my vibrant since launch day and have never had any real lag problems. But a few days ago when JAC released his new kernal w/ the lag fix, I thought I might give it a try. Boy am I happy I did it. Browsing websites are a lot faster. Some apps even open faster.
One app that was bugging me was ROM Manager. Don't get me wrong, I love the app, but it literally took a good 5 seconds to open (All I would see is a black screen for 5 seconds), but now with the lag fix, the app opens up in less than 2 seconds. I still see a black screen, but it's a huge improvement.
I also came from a MT3G and never thought the Vibrant had any type of lag. But after installing the Lag Fix, I can see what people are talking about now.
You can always try it and if you dont like it then nandroid back.

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I had my vibrant since launch day and have never had any real lag problems. But a few days ago when JAC released his new kernal w/ the lag fix, I thought I might give it a try. Boy am I happy I did it. Browsing websites are a lot faster. Some apps even open faster.
One app that was bugging me was ROM Manager. Don't get me wrong, I love the app, but it literally took a good 5 seconds to open (All I would see is a black screen for 5 seconds), but now with the lag fix, the app opens up in less than 2 seconds. I still see a black screen, but it's a huge improvement.
I also came from a MT3G and never thought the Vibrant had any type of lag. But after installing the Lag Fix, I can see what people are talking about now.
You can always try it and if you dont like it then nandroid back.
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What's the lag fox do to make web browsing faster?

smashpunks said:
What's the lag fox do to make web browsing faster?
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In the second post of the thread about RyanZa's One Click Lag Fix v.2
Q: Why does this lag fix work? Is it slowly destroying my phone?
A: Let's say an application counts from 1 to 10, and writes the value each time to disk.
Stock:
1 -> App tells RFS to write 1 to disk -> RFS writes 1 to disk -> RFS writes journal saying to changed the value on the disk.
2 -> App tells RFS to write 2 to disk -> RFS writes 2 to disk -> RFS writes journal saying to changed the value on the disk.
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9 -> App tells RFS to write 9 to disk -> RFS writes 9 to disk -> RFS writes journal saying to changed the value on the disk.
10 -> App tells RFS to write 10 to disk -> RFS writes 10 to disk -> RFS writes journal saying it changed the value on the disk.
Total physical disk writes: 20. Speed: SLOW! Wear and tear on disk: HIGH!
Lag Fix:
1 -> App tells EXT2 to write 1 to disk -> EXT2 stores 1 in RAM.
2 -> App tells EXT2 to write 2 to disk -> EXT2 stores 2 in RAM.
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9 -> App tells EXT2 to write 9 to disk -> EXT2 stores 9 in RAM.
10 -> App tells EXT2 to write 10 to disk -> EXT2 stores 10 in RAM.
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EXT2 tells RFS to write 10 to disk -> RFS writes 10 to disk -> RFS writes journal saying it changed the value on the disk.
Total physical disk writes: 2. Speed: FAST! Wear and tear on disk: LOW!
This isn't exactly what is happening, but it gives you the general idea.
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I think his commentary is more about JAC kernel + lag fix however.

I'm NOT whining: Lag on jp6 Froyo is real (proof)

Check my Youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fds9eccI9OA
I did a FR before flashing with Kies, and after flashing. Also did a clean install of all apps and settings and a cache wipe.
maybe 50 pics, 50 mp3s and 100 apps and 4 widgets running.
This video was taken just 15 minutes after a reboot.
Do people consider this whining?
EDIT: Spend 6 minutes looking through the video. The lags gets worse and worse.

That is the worst lag I have ever seen, I understand if you are upset, for me the lag is 1-2 second pauses now and then.
Was it as bad on 2.1?

Looks bad. Anyways try getting rid of the batt app that lets you know of the batt percentage on the notifications tray. I got rid of mine and the phone is much quicker.
Good luck i feel for you buddy.
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Something is hogging the cpu.. Or a process is creating a problem. What happens after you clean the memory in the taskmanager? This isn't normal.
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Whats the icon in the top right hand corner? And this SHOULD have been posted to the other lag threads.

andrewluecke said:
Whats the icon in the top right hand corner? And this SHOULD have been posted to the other lag threads.
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The icon is just the alarm clock.
Ending all apps does not solve much. The lag returns almost immediately.

Was this lag meant to be so, i mean is it intended to blame the phone? I'm sure this is not normal, and have never seen lag like this. Mostly its 1sec (i know many complain about this) but blink twice and it will load

borchgrevink said:
The icon is just the alarm clock.
Ending all apps does not solve much. The lag returns almost immediately.
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What apps do you have installed?
And yes, creating your own thread is whining.. This thread should be marked as a duplicate..

andrewluecke said:
What apps do you have installed?
And yes, creating your own thread is whining.. This thread should be marked as a duplicate..
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Sorry, but I have to disagree. I think this is relevant enough to put in a separate thread.
My apps: http://www.appbrain.com/user/borchgrevink/apps-on-the-phone (minus Angry birds)
The lag was almost like this also with jf3 and jm1.
Not many apps running simultaneously, so I don't see the problem...

Not to disparage what you're experiencing there mate but I flashed JP6 yesterday and I can honestly say so far it's been smooth sailing even without any lag-fixes, as opposed to when I was on 2.1 just prior and things were about the same as what you've got here. Did you do a TitaniumBackup restore or anything?

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Not to disparage what you're experiencing there mate but I flashed JP6 yesterday and I can honestly say so far it's been smooth sailing even without any lag-fixes, as opposed to when I was on 2.1 just prior and things were about the same as what you've got here. Did you do a TitaniumBackup restore or anything?
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Clean install of everything.

adzam3 said:
Looks bad. Anyways try getting rid of the batt app that lets you know of the batt percentage on the notifications tray. I got rid of mine and the phone is much quicker.
Good luck i feel for you buddy.
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Did that and no difference...

borchgrevink said:
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Hmmmm, the only thing I can think of (and this'll probably sound silly) but you might want to try without a SIM in it. I remember people with Milestones having damaged/faulty SIMs which would cause their phones to slow right down.
Also, sorry but I have to admit I got a good giggle from the fingers tapping at ~4:30 :3

borchgrevink said:
Sorry, but I have to disagree. I think this is relevant enough to put in a separate thread.
My apps: http://www.appbrain.com/user/borchgrevink/apps-on-the-phone (minus Angry birds)
The lag was almost like this also with jf3 and jm1.
Not many apps running simultaneously, so I don't see the problem...
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It depends WHAT you are running. In your movie you say stuff like "wow, 5 apps running", but widgetlocker for instance I know slows the phone down a bit.
The number of apps means very little (I can make a computer lag by encoding a video and messing around in photoshop too). It's what you are running that matters. Maybe you should try to work out which applications are causing issues (there is a good reason why I got rid of widgetlocker though).
Anyway, this thread should be closed as a dupe. It doesn't warrant it's own thread, as you aren't a celebrity, and other people have already posted video's onto the existing threads.Your case is no more important than the others.

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That's part of the problem, it probably depends on what you are running, so whatever was slowing down your phone significantly before, has probably been reinstalled..

andrewluecke said:
That's part of the problem, it probably depends on what you are running, so whatever was slowing down your phone significantly before, has probably been reinstalled..
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Wasn't running anything after fresh boot. The video is from first screen taps on this freshly booted phone.
EDIT: Removing Widget Locker does not help... Tried that.

here it's unbelievable stable(jpk+oclf+4wks+120apps), guess it was a wise choice not going jp6/m.
But why are there 5 apps active? I have several active widgets but they don't show up as a regular process(es) here.. I'm sure that my phone would lagg too while running 2 games, 2 web browsers and navigational software on the background. =/
I doubt it was acting like this from flash off right?

Do you consider that the hardware may have been damaged!? You have your warranty, get another one .

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Wasn't running anything after fresh boot. The video is from first screen taps on this freshly booted phone.
EDIT: Removing Widget Locker does not help... Tried that.
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Well.. That's my point.. Your apps must be doing something that is sucking up your CPU... because I'm running Messaging, Launcherpro, Jabberoid (not listed in active apps), sipdroid (not listed in active apps), and a live wallpaper. I suspect that your apps are possibly running a few things not listed in task manager.. Also, are you running custom widgets (I'm not using any, which might be adding to the jumpiness). I also only have 50 apps.
I have noticed your app list contains MANY custom widgets..
So, I suggest working out what specifically is causing your issues. But I can honestly say I don't get lag like that on my phone..

andrewluecke said:
Well.. That's my point.. Your apps must be doing something that is sucking up your CPU... because I'm running Messaging, Launcherpro, Jabberoid (not listed in active apps), sipdroid (not listed in active apps), and a live wallpaper. I suspect that your apps are possibly running a few things not listed in task manager.. Also, are you running custom widgets (I'm not using any, which might be adding to the jumpiness). I also only have 50 apps.
I have noticed your app list contains MANY custom widgets..
So, I suggest working out what specifically is causing your issues. But I can honestly say I don't get lag like that on my phone..
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Well, the apps "running" in task manager are only the six most recent apps. I am only using 4-5 widgets on this video. I have also tried without any widgets. Same problem.
Will get a new replacement phone (have made a deal with Samsung, just waiting for a new one).

The love of this phone

I love this damn phone. I dont know about yall, but I could give a **** about stock 2.2 our any of the other newer phones out.. This puppy is a beast running team whiskey, master, and eugenes roms...
These do so much, phone, browser with full flash, gps (yes mine works great), alarm, games, camera, video camera, movie player, mp3 player etc. phones do so damn much, its fun as **** trying out all these fun mods that these great developers make for our bad ass phone....
What else yall use these bad ass toys for? I love mine and had it on day 1 release

I've had mine for 2 weeks and I'm still trying to figure out everything. (I still need to get the balls to root it so I can enjoy those sweet roms)

smashpunks said:
I love this damn phone. I dont know about yall, but I could give a **** about stock 2.2 our any of the other newer phones out.. This puppy is a beast running team whiskey, master, and eugenes roms...
These do so much, phone, browser with full flash, gps (yes mine works great), alarm, games, camera, video camera, movie player, mp3 player etc. phones do so damn much, its fun as **** trying out all these fun mods that these great developers make for our bad ass phone....
What else yall use these bad ass toys for? I love mine and had it on day 1 release
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+1 beside the stock part (if it runs on android im interested)
sgsV Nero-DoW1.4 OC

Love mine as well!!
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You can love it all you want, but unless you heavily MOD this phone up (Root + Lagfix and more often than not a Custom ROM), the out of box experience is similar to these.
All of these lag/free/blackscreen issues still exist on JI6 for the Vibrant. I may put a video on YouTube with a demonstration soon, cause it's a myth, apparently.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB1b0UrX9e0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2do065zuSUI

This is kind of ironic...
I was just going to post how my stock JI6 vibrant is running pretty well; I opened and closed a bunch of stuff in a short period of time, but then tried to open the gallery and bam, my phone froze. No response from the keys, then I went to lock the phone, but it never turned back on.
Just did a battery pull

I've had mine freeze up and require a battery pull just swiping to another home screen.

im running stock ji6, no problems ever, with gps, gallery, lags.
Both of the youtube vids are with the i9000.

Maybe the vibrant just works great in Oregon! =)

I think if it's going to "just work" anywhere it should be either Mountain View, CA or Cupertino, CA.

ZombiiBite said:
I've had mine for 2 weeks and I'm still trying to figure out everything. (I still need to get the balls to root it so I can enjoy those sweet roms)
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you won't regret it..learn all the ins and outs of rooting and you will constantly be flashing roms, which never gets old

N8ter said:
You can love it all you want, but unless you heavily MOD this phone up (Root + Lagfix and more often than not a Custom ROM), the out of box experience is similar to these.
All of these lag/free/blackscreen issues still exist on JI6 for the Vibrant. I may put a video on YouTube with a demonstration soon, cause it's a myth, apparently.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB1b0UrX9e0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2do065zuSUI
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When mine behaves like that I unload some apps. Even though it has 16 gigs, it seems you really can't just add apps until it's full.
I also suspect there is some kind of multitasking pre-emption problem too. For example, when you install an app, the phone virtually freezes when it's actually writing the app to disk. Maybe it's just a disk format or sd driver problem.
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ZachLL88 said:
im running stock ji6, no problems ever, with gps, gallery, lags.
Both of the youtube vids are with the i9000.
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The same issues on every other Gs.
Why do lag fixes exist, if not?
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cyberbillp said:
When mine behaves like that I unload some apps. Even though it has 16 gigs, it seems you really can't just add apps until it's full.
I also suspect there is some kind of multitasking pre-emption problem too. For example, when you install an app, the phone virtually freezes when it's actually writing the app to disk. Maybe it's just a disk format or sd driver problem.
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No. these phones have terrible I/O performance. Notice in thr video when she runs twicca it freezes while loading data (most likely from cache). It's due to the RFS filesystem Samsung uses.
The fact that those are i9k's doesn't change anything. All the stock Galaxy S phones have this issue, save for the Nexus.
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cyberbillp said:
When mine behaves like that I unload some apps. Even though it has 16 gigs, it seems you really can't just add apps until it's full.
I also suspect there is some kind of multitasking pre-emption problem too. For example, when you install an app, the phone virtually freezes when it's actually writing the app to disk. Maybe it's just a disk format or sd driver problem.
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This is a problem on JI6. Nothing short of a different firmware version will fix the pause when installing apps. Not a "lag fix" either.
I have no problems with my Vibrant. Trolls will Troll because that's what they do, but the 0.001% of owners here don't give a good idea of what regular owners really think. The ones that consistently complain about how horrible the phone is and continues to use it, even after claiming to have sold it or will be, should just be ignored. There is an ulterior motive here.
I have stock JL5, and it runs great. JI6 has a problem with the Gallery, well known and I posted a solution for it already. But JL5 is running so good there really isn't much reason to be running JI6 over it.

N8ter said:
You can love it all you want, but unless you heavily MOD this phone up (Root + Lagfix and more often than not a Custom ROM), the out of box experience is similar to these.
All of these lag/free/blackscreen issues still exist on JI6 for the Vibrant. I may put a video on YouTube with a demonstration soon, cause it's a myth, apparently.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cB1b0UrX9e0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2do065zuSUI
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Geez, my phone sure has never behaved like that (thankfully!); and I'm "out of the box." I can see how it would drive you nuts, lead you to "lag-fixes," etc.! Just want to point out that the problem sure ain't universal, for whatever reason. (I don't have a ton of apps installed; I wonder if that makes a difference.)
Occasionally, there will be a slight pause when opening an app or something, but it doesn't ruin my day...

pavvy said:
Geez, my phone sure has never behaved like that (thankfully!); and I'm "out of the box." I can see how it would drive you nuts, lead you to "lag-fixes," etc.! Just want to point out that the problem sure ain't universal, for whatever reason. (I don't have a ton of apps installed; I wonder if that makes a difference.)
Occasionally, there will be a slight pause when opening an app or something, but it doesn't ruin my day...
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Like I said in another thread... My YouTube video will be up soon

I keep getting nervous about rooting, because I see people who write stuff in these and phandroid's forums about peoples phones starting to act weird right after they do it. I'm also worried about how to do updates to newer versions of android, and how make sure I have my contacts backed up because my buddy did his EVO and told me he lost all hiscontacts and wasn't able to sync them with google. PLEASE POINT ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION SOMEONE!

ZombiiBite said:
I keep getting nervous about rooting, because I see people who write stuff in these and phandroid's forums about peoples phones starting to act weird right after they do it. I'm also worried about how to do updates to newer versions of android, and how make sure I have my contacts backed up because my buddy did his EVO and told me he lost all hiscontacts and wasn't able to sync them with google. PLEASE POINT ME IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION SOMEONE!
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First time owning a smartphone and first time owning an Android phone, I rooted the phone on day one, nothing bad happened. All I gained are benefits, adblock, costume roms (froyo 2.2), root explorer, voodoo, etc

Yeah, I've had it for two weeks and love it! I can only imagine how much better it'll be when I do root it. Should I just follow the tutorial on here? And then what roms does everyone suggest?

HOW TO - Fix Lollipop Slow Down Issues

ive been using the apps from this guy
https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...terprise&hl=en
ram booster and cache apps to sd booster
significant performance increase. im talking about no slowdowns and easy multitasking
after unlocking, installing lollipop and rooting
pretty significant increases. cannot complain at all.
dont have any slowdowns on my other 2 devices (n7 2013 and n6 on vzw) so cant compare to those but this fixed my shield lollipop issues
he has a lot of other products as well but i havent used them.

Link is broken. Please re-post. Thanks

myrcgarage said:
Link is broken. Please re-post. Thanks
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Woops Sorry. Here's a link to the ram Booster app then just click more apps by gejos
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gejos.android.rambooster

I remember the good old days of Eclair when these things used to be commonplace.
tl;dr if you're actually running one of these things and you're seeing a large and measurable change... something's not quite right.

Yes. Lollipop update. Tried factory reset, deleting certain apps. Nothing seems to help until I tried the ram Booster.

Ermm. Sounds like placebo. This isn't android gingerbread anymore and these types of tweaks are largely useless... On our high end device anyways.

If you do a search on xda, I am not the first person to mention these apps specifically. I agree that these things are mostly garbage but this one is different. I urge whoever is having performance issues with lollipop to try this.

Are you using the donate version with more options? I think I tried this app before and it didn't fix my slowdowns, but I will try again. I don't have SD card so I can't try the other cache to SD-app.
The slow downs and memory leak are so frustrating, I have to restart a couple of times every day to be able to play for an example Simpsons Tapped out. I use the same apps on my ASUS Tegra 4 tablet with 4.4.2 and it feels so much faster and there is no need to restart it every day.

dape16 said:
Are you using the donate version with more options? I think I tried this app before and it didn't fix my slowdowns, but I will try again. I don't have SD card so I can't try the other cache to SD-app.
The slow downs and memory leak are so frustrating, I have to restart a couple of times every day to be able to play for an example Simpsons Tapped out. I use the same apps on my ASUS Tegra 4 tablet with 4.4.2 and it feels so much faster and there is no need to restart it every day.
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nope, regular free version. i didnt even know the donate one had more options

Neither the donate or free version should provide any noticeable difference besides maybe more battery drain.

Thanks for the helpful feedback. Please try the app first and then you can comment.

I have been running the app for 5 days now, can't say I see any difference, I still have the memory leak (or what it is that causes the need to restart once or twice a day). Still have the UI slowdowns too.

http://www.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care

I'm just going to venture a guess that any task killer that is significantly improving your battery life is probably rooting out apps that are falling into Lollipops memory holes. So the battery savings are accidental...
This is not how Android is supposed to run. This hasn't been the way Android has run since 2.2 or before, the last time task killers were all the rage.
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