1 with the Lag fix and one without? I wanna see a vs video. Ive done all lag fixs and have not seen a difference other that quadrant scores. I never had lag to beging with even coming from a Nexus one running FRF91 Froyo.
I dont get the lag thing. Maybe a video could help me see the difference.
Where is the lag? All my menus open quick, apps open fast etc. When I did the lag fix I tested everything and it just all around felt the same... Not slow becasue I dont think it is either way, but not faster than without the lag fix. I just dont know if its worth the 1 gig or 512 mb rom.
A video would be cool, im sure no one has this or even 2 vibrants to test this out with.. I think it would really make a statement if a video showed the difference...
ANYONE? Or WILLING?
smashpunks said:
1 with the Lag fix and one without? I wanna see a vs video. Ive done all lag fixs and have not seen a difference other that quadrant scores. I never had lag to beging with even coming from a Nexus one running FRF91 Froyo.
I dont get the lag thing. Maybe a video could help me see the difference.
Where is the lag? All my menus open quick, apps open fast etc. When I did the lag fix I tested everything and it just all around felt the same... Not slow becasue I dont think it is either way, but not faster than without the lag fix. I just dont know if its worth the 1 gig or 512 mb rom.
A video would be cool, im sure no one has this or even 2 vibrants to test this out with.. I think it would really make a statement if a video showed the difference...
ANYONE? Or WILLING?
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not sure why your Vibrant doesn't exhibit the behavior but pretty sure that if it did you would notice.
Sorry no video.
smashpunks said:
1 with the Lag fix and one without? I wanna see a vs video. Ive done all lag fixs and have not seen a difference other that quadrant scores. I never had lag to beging with even coming from a Nexus one running FRF91 Froyo.
I dont get the lag thing. Maybe a video could help me see the difference.
Where is the lag? All my menus open quick, apps open fast etc. When I did the lag fix I tested everything and it just all around felt the same... Not slow becasue I dont think it is either way, but not faster than without the lag fix. I just dont know if its worth the 1 gig or 512 mb rom.
A video would be cool, im sure no one has this or even 2 vibrants to test this out with.. I think it would really make a statement if a video showed the difference...
ANYONE? Or WILLING?
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I completely agree with you. I had a mytouch before this phone and have yet to notice any sort of lag at all. Of course the lag fix didnt do anything for my phone, it was already faster than anything else out there anyways. Personally I dont use the lag fix any more because I dont see the point.
I did not notice any lag either for about the first 72 hours I had the phone. But once I started installing all the apps I usually use it became quite apparent. To the point that I had to go back to using my myTouch Slide until I could take the time to root and apply the fix. I experienced lag mostly with the market, corporate email and really any app that was pulling info from the web. The market was most noticeable with it taking a full 10 seconds to get into the download area. Corporate email was the deal breaker, it would take 5 to 10 seconds to delete each email and move onto the next one. Multiply that by 100 to 150 emails a day and you would want to pull your hair out! Luckily the lag fix corrected almost all the lag for me in comparison to my MT3G Slide. Now when I delete an email it instantly deletes it and moves on to the next one, phew!
As for other people not experiencing the lag that is a mystery. Perhaps it has something to do with specific applications our maybe the number of applications being installed. All I know is for me personally the phone was unusable in its original state, and the lag fix has made all the difference for me.
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dcam1075 said:
I did not notice any lag either for about the first 72 hours I had the phone. But once I started installing all the apps I usually use it became quite apparent. To the point that I had to go back to using my myTouch Slide until I could take the time to root and apply the fix. I experienced lag mostly with the market, corporate email and really any app that was pulling info from the web. The market was most noticeable with it taking a full 10 seconds to get into the download area. Corporate email was the deal breaker, it would take 5 to 10 seconds to delete each email and move onto the next one. Multiply that by 100 to 150 emails a day and you would want to pull your hair out! Luckily the lag fix corrected almost all the lag for me in comparison to my MT3G Slide. Now when I delete an email it instantly deletes it and moves on to the next one, phew!
As for other people not experiencing the lag that is a mystery. Perhaps it has something to do with specific applications our maybe the number of applications being installed. All I know is for me personally the phone was unusable in its original state, and the lag fix has made all the difference for me.
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I've had the phone since release and have aver 120 apps installed. Market downloads takes about 1 second. Every now and again some stuff takes a couple seconds, but only sometimes, most the time things are instantly ...
Don't know, like I said I think a videobwould be helpful ..
Or even a before lag fix test and a after lag fix test...
If you don't see a need, then don't use it. No one is forcing you.
Those of us who multi task heavily on our phones see a huge improvement.
Yep I too have had no clue what people were complaining about with the lag. I installed the lag fix anyways and didn't notice a difference. My best friend just bought her Vibrant a few weeks ago and I compared to hers last week and noticed no difference in between the two identical Vibrants.
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zaduma said:
If you don't see a need, then don't use it. No one is forcing you.
Those of us who multi task heavily on our phones see a huge improvement.
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What kinda response is this? I know I don't have to that's why I don't.. I multitask plenty I bet I use my phone more than you. 16 hours a day non stop. This ain't a contest I'm just trying to see some proof
zaduma said:
If you don't see a need, then don't use it. No one is forcing you.
Those of us who multi task heavily on our phones see a huge improvement.
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"Hi, i'm zaduma, a self-important armchair diagnostician. I know nothing about your usage, but I know you don't know how to use your phone and you're an idiot."
I multi-task "heavily" as well and have yet to experience the lag symptoms i've seen described here.
Maybe you should describe what "heavy" multitasking you're referring to so we can replicate it?
As others have stated I saw a huge lag in the market place, it was near impossible to navigate taking well over 5secs to load. I didn't have a huge issue with other apps, but some ran slower. I had a 870ish score in Quadrant.
I installed the LAG FIX, which if I remember right, is very similar to a ram hack. It basically moves it to write on the SD Card, which is much faster. I now score 2155 in Quadrant and the market place loading screen in there within 1-2secs of loading in.
I personally think its a great fix, not sure why yours didn't work.
oc3rulz said:
As others have stated I saw a huge lag in the market place, it was near impossible to navigate taking well over 5secs to load. I didn't have a huge issue with other apps, but some ran slower. I had a 870ish score in Quadrant.
I installed the LAG FIX, which if I remember right, is very similar to a ram hack. It basically moves it to write on the SD Card, which is much faster. I now score 2155 in Quadrant and the market place loading screen in there within 1-2secs of loading in.
I personally think its a great fix, not sure why yours didn't work.
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Wasn't there some post a few days ago about how easy it was to boost quadrant scores using software, without providing any actual real world improvements?
My market screen loads up in a second or two, and my quadrant score is 870ish.
reuthermonkey said:
Wasn't there some post a few days ago about how easy it was to boost quadrant scores using software, without providing any actual real world improvements?
My market screen loads up in a second or two, and my quadrant score is 870ish.
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anything is possible with software. I just know that my phone is working much better now, I wish it would help others too
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What kinda response is this? I know I don't have to that's why I don't.. I multitask plenty I bet I use my phone more than you. 16 hours a day non stop. This ain't a contest I'm just trying to see some proof
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I was pointing out that if you don't see a need, and do not see a difference, then don't use it. What do you care if someone cranks out a video showing the difference? Would you use it then, even though you don't see it yourself? I mean do you seek validation for the other things you do in life from strangers on the internet?
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"Hi, i'm zaduma, a self-important armchair diagnostician. I know nothing about your usage, but I know you don't know how to use your phone and you're an idiot."
I multi-task "heavily" as well and have yet to experience the lag symptoms i've seen described here.
Maybe you should describe what "heavy" multitasking you're referring to so we can replicate it?
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"Hi I'm reuthermonkey, I imply that I am an enlightened guy, while making fun of others because it strokes my ego. Then I go about and put words in people's mouths."
Anyways, I do not use my phone straight for like 16 hours like OP, but when I do use it, I use it as such:
- Stream Pandora over Wifi (well I try to use wifi, tmob's 3g is **** around where i live.)
- Browse Web / browse marketplace for new apps I'd like to try.
- Test out those apps.
- Text my friends and family bout **** to catch up.
- Switch back to ninja's live every 4-5 minutes to play out some more stamina points.
And guess what guys, while I am switching between these I notice pretty substantial delays, 3, 4, 5 seconds sometimes. With lagfix it might lag for a second, maybe two.
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I was pointing out that if you don't see a need, and do not see a difference, then don't use it. What do you care if someone cranks out a video showing the difference? Would you use it then, even though you don't see it yourself? I mean do you seek validation for the other things you do in life from strangers on the internet?
"Hi I'm reuthermonkey, I imply that I am an enlightened guy, while making fun of others because it strokes my ego. Then I go about and put words in people's mouths."
Anyways, I do not use my phone straight for like 16 hours like OP, but when I do use it, I use it as such:
- Stream Pandora over Wifi (well I try to use wifi, tmob's 3g is **** around where i live.)
- Browse Web / browse marketplace for new apps I'd like to try.
- Test out those apps.
- Text my friends and family bout **** to catch up.
- Switch back to ninja's live every 4-5 minutes to play out some more stamina points.
And guess what guys, while I am switching between these I notice pretty substantial delays, 3, 4, 5 seconds sometimes. With lagfix it might lag for a second, maybe two.
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Nope. I never said I'd use it if I see a difference in a video. Now your putting words in my mouth saying now I need validation?
Dude take your negative butt outta here. I'm just saying I don't see no lag and wondering maybe I'm missing something.
****. Got a video? No cool, anywhere to check to see if I have lag and where the lag fix is supposed to blow my mind besides quadrant ....
Please no negativity ...
Edit: just tested with Pandora on and I'm right now typing away with ease. I actually believe its now faster with Pandora playing. Thanks for the tip..
For me the Lag Fix didn't make much of a difference. In fact I got random pauses on my phone more with the Lag Fix than I did with out it. The only difference between the two was the Market loaded faster and my games loaded slightly faster, like 1 sec faster. I used the Lag Fix for about 4 days then I got a low memory warning and couldn't get text.
Its def a step in the right direction but for me the cons out weighed the pros. Benchmarks are great and all but stable real world use trumps that.
I've heard a lot more negative issues from trying to do the lag fix. I understand WHY a fix is needed, but my phone performs more than adequate for me... MUCH faster than my Cyanogen Froyo G1 did.
Quadrant scores means absolutely nothing.
I too would like to see a video... mostly because I think it would point out that though there would be an increase in opening apps... thats it, apps open faster, wooptie doo.
I'm waiting for froyo since this will also incorporate samsungs fix for this (my guess since both have been announced for possible Sept release).
I don't think Zad's post was meant to be offensive.
Anyway, I have no lag on either my Bell or TMO Vibrant, although I confess that I don't install 100s of apps, but I do multitask and run intensive stuff like uncompressed 720p MKV files and The Sims 3!
I had my vibrant since launch day and have never had any real lag problems. But a few days ago when JAC released his new kernal w/ the lag fix, I thought I might give it a try. Boy am I happy I did it. Browsing websites are a lot faster. Some apps even open faster.
One app that was bugging me was ROM Manager. Don't get me wrong, I love the app, but it literally took a good 5 seconds to open (All I would see is a black screen for 5 seconds), but now with the lag fix, the app opens up in less than 2 seconds. I still see a black screen, but it's a huge improvement.
I also came from a MT3G and never thought the Vibrant had any type of lag. But after installing the Lag Fix, I can see what people are talking about now.
You can always try it and if you dont like it then nandroid back.
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I had my vibrant since launch day and have never had any real lag problems. But a few days ago when JAC released his new kernal w/ the lag fix, I thought I might give it a try. Boy am I happy I did it. Browsing websites are a lot faster. Some apps even open faster.
One app that was bugging me was ROM Manager. Don't get me wrong, I love the app, but it literally took a good 5 seconds to open (All I would see is a black screen for 5 seconds), but now with the lag fix, the app opens up in less than 2 seconds. I still see a black screen, but it's a huge improvement.
I also came from a MT3G and never thought the Vibrant had any type of lag. But after installing the Lag Fix, I can see what people are talking about now.
You can always try it and if you dont like it then nandroid back.
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What's the lag fox do to make web browsing faster?
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What's the lag fox do to make web browsing faster?
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In the second post of the thread about RyanZa's One Click Lag Fix v.2
Q: Why does this lag fix work? Is it slowly destroying my phone?
A: Let's say an application counts from 1 to 10, and writes the value each time to disk.
Stock:
1 -> App tells RFS to write 1 to disk -> RFS writes 1 to disk -> RFS writes journal saying to changed the value on the disk.
2 -> App tells RFS to write 2 to disk -> RFS writes 2 to disk -> RFS writes journal saying to changed the value on the disk.
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9 -> App tells RFS to write 9 to disk -> RFS writes 9 to disk -> RFS writes journal saying to changed the value on the disk.
10 -> App tells RFS to write 10 to disk -> RFS writes 10 to disk -> RFS writes journal saying it changed the value on the disk.
Total physical disk writes: 20. Speed: SLOW! Wear and tear on disk: HIGH!
Lag Fix:
1 -> App tells EXT2 to write 1 to disk -> EXT2 stores 1 in RAM.
2 -> App tells EXT2 to write 2 to disk -> EXT2 stores 2 in RAM.
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9 -> App tells EXT2 to write 9 to disk -> EXT2 stores 9 in RAM.
10 -> App tells EXT2 to write 10 to disk -> EXT2 stores 10 in RAM.
..
EXT2 tells RFS to write 10 to disk -> RFS writes 10 to disk -> RFS writes journal saying it changed the value on the disk.
Total physical disk writes: 2. Speed: FAST! Wear and tear on disk: LOW!
This isn't exactly what is happening, but it gives you the general idea.
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I think his commentary is more about JAC kernel + lag fix however.
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Is it me or has this so called lag been blown completely out of proportion with the SGS? I used to have a HTC Hero, I tell you, it's like going from riding a snail to a rocket fuselage. That phone was so slow, a phone may I add which only a year ago was seen as the 'iPhone killer'.
Please are there any previous HTC Hero users who now own a SGS? You have to speak out!
I mean sure, I've used a HTC Desire, it's very fast. But the only difference I have noticed is that on the SGS sometimes Apps take around 3secs longer to open than they should. That's it!! I mean, why are you all complaining so much! It's just as fast as the Desire except that point.
I have now had the SGS for 2 weeks, I haven't noticed any considerable slowdown. It works great! Why are you all complaining like babies? Have you installed Crysis 2 on your SGS or something, obviously your phone would never work again if you did that. Before anybody asks, I have made no changes to my SGS. I have an unlocked SGS, still on Touchwiz, no flash, no root. I don't even use task killer for God's sake. Please would someone explain to me what the big deal is?
What you have to realise is that it's not an always persistent problem. The phone in general is extremely fast, however with earlier firmwares the phone does not free up memory effectively. 3 seconds is nothing, but I recall sometimes waiting 10-15 seconds for the Dialer to launch. And when the memory is really really clogged up, it's a complete pain even pressing the home screen button (waiting 10 seconds to go to home isn't pretty either). For a phone with so much power, do you really think this is normal?
The difference must just be that I'm not a heavy app user. I still have the stock firmware the phone came with. Never had a 10 second delay with anything. Never noticed any sort of build up of lag. It works great! Do you guys install like 50 apps on your phones or something? Clearly that must be your problem.
I have never had any problems either (other than with flaky GPS).
Someone told me how to replicate the lag issue, and it boiled down to having 8-odd apps running in the background at once. I would expect the same on my multi-core 4GB RAM iMac, let alone a phone with 256MB RAM.
Not saying others are only having problems with the above situation, but it does seem like there are specific factors that cause it, which is why a lot of people have had no problems.
The phone has 512mb ram.
Just that currently, HiMem is not available (will be in froyo as a default, and if we're lucky, in the JF6 firmware as well)
Pika007 said:
The phone has 512mb ram.
Just that currently, HiMem is not available (will be in froyo as a default, and if we're lucky, in the JF6 firmware as well)
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I know, but until we can actually use it, we are limited to 256MB (or was it 232MB?)
SGS has 512MB RAM
Robin.B said:
What you have to realise is that it's not an always persistent problem. The phone in general is extremely fast, however with earlier firmwares the phone does not free up memory effectively. 3 seconds is nothing, but I recall sometimes waiting 10-15 seconds for the Dialer to launch. And when the memory is really really clogged up, it's a complete pain even pressing the home screen button (waiting 10 seconds to go to home isn't pretty either). For a phone with so much power, do you really think this is normal?
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+1
And although I am not a really heavy app user, I am a heavy user, and it wasn't hard to make the phone lag quite heavily at times, so I'd say no, it has not been blown out of proportion.
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What you have to realise is that it's not an always persistent problem. The phone in general is extremely fast, however with earlier firmwares the phone does not free up memory effectively. 3 seconds is nothing, but I recall sometimes waiting 10-15 seconds for the Dialer to launch. And when the memory is really really clogged up, it's a complete pain even pressing the home screen button (waiting 10 seconds to go to home isn't pretty either). For a phone with so much power, do you really think this is normal?
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+1.
More serious in some applications like mails, RSS reader. It's so slow that I don't even use my SGS for my mails, or to read news anymore.
Tachikoma_kun said:
I have never had any problems either (other than with flaky GPS).
Someone told me how to replicate the lag issue, and it boiled down to having 8-odd apps running in the background at once. I would expect the same on my multi-core 4GB RAM iMac, let alone a phone with 256MB RAM.
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Tachikoma_kun,
Please understand that Android does not work like the Mac OSX on an iMac, and that, if you open 8 odd apps in a row, you should _not_ have them all running in the background at once.
Android's memory management should close applications and free memory as needed. Processes will start if needed, be set to inactive as long as possible and killed if necessary. This works fine with other Android devices and obviously not with the Galaxy S.
You can read about the life cycle of Android Components at
http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/fundamentals.html
Using a task killer to free up memory might make your Galaxy S faster than not using one, but this is still a lot less efficient than it should be. In a working Android system you should use the most out of your available memory and the system should stay fast as you open and switch between applications. You should never have to think about which applications are running or not running.
Again, this works just fine with other devices. If it does not work with the Galaxy S then this is a serious flaw in the system. The flaw might be related to the slow I/O on the internal SD, or maybe there is a firmware bug besides the I/O. But it is currently not working correctly.
If you have access to 256mb memory of RAM, and you use a task killer to always keep 100MB free, then you use your device like it only had 156MB.
I also do not believe that the average customer without a technical background is able to use a task killer without shooting himself in the foot. Without knowledge about what each application and service does, and how android manages background processes, how should a normal user know what he can kill and which services he should keep running?
lag problem blown out of proportion. May be froyo update will satisfy the hunger of these power hungary geeks.
lag problem blown out of proportion. May be froyo update will satisfy the hunger of these power hungary geeks.
eaglesteve said:
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More serious in some applications like mails, RSS reader. It's so slow that I don't even use my SGS for my mails, or to read news anymore.
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I just don't get it. I've never had this problem. Emails and news update perfectly with no lag.
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I just don't get it. I've never had this problem. Emails and news update perfectly with no lag.
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Perhaps whether a person thinks it's slow or not depends on what that person was used to?
That is exactly what i was telling people.
I come from the HTC Athena, and OMG... that thing is like crawling on sand, even with its super duper 625 Mhz CPU which by then was supposed to be the state of the art.
yet everything i did was sloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooow, using the SGS was like smooth flowing water, everything is perfect in this phone out of the box.
Enarca said:
Is it me or has this so called lag been blown completely out of proportion with the SGS? I used to have a HTC Hero, I tell you, it's like going from riding a snail to a rocket fuselage. That phone was so slow, a phone may I add which only a year ago was seen as the 'iPhone killer'.
Please are there any previous HTC Hero users who now own a SGS? You have to speak out!
I mean sure, I've used a HTC Desire, it's very fast. But the only difference I have noticed is that on the SGS sometimes Apps take around 3secs longer to open than they should. That's it!! I mean, why are you all complaining so much! It's just as fast as the Desire except that point.
I have now had the SGS for 2 weeks, I haven't noticed any considerable slowdown. It works great! Why are you all complaining like babies? Have you installed Crysis 2 on your SGS or something, obviously your phone would never work again if you did that. Before anybody asks, I have made no changes to my SGS. I have an unlocked SGS, still on Touchwiz, no flash, no root. I don't even use task killer for God's sake. Please would someone explain to me what the big deal is?
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Im not a SGS owner but i keep noticing the reference to the desire. I did own a snapdragon device until about a week ago. (Droid Incredible). Switched to droid x. The only real reason i believe there is lag on the samsung is the touchwiz. The cpu&gpu in the SGS IS FAR SUPERIOR to that of the desire. Htc just has the most polished custom ui. If u get launcher pro id be willing to bet that lag is gonzola in a hurry. Maybe give this a try? Just trying to help my fellow androiders out. Goodluck fellas
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Im not a SGS owner but i keep noticing the reference to the desire. I did own a snapdragon device until about a week ago. (Droid Incredible). Switched to droid x. The only real reason i believe there is lag on the samsung is the touchwiz. The cpu&gpu in the SGS IS FAR SUPERIOR to that of the desire. Htc just has the most polished custom ui. If u get launcher pro id be willing to bet that lag is gonzola in a hurry. Maybe give this a try? Just trying to help my fellow androiders out. Goodluck fellas
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what made you choose a Droid X vs. a SGS i9000?
the 2 phones are almost identical, except for the camera.
the lag is very real.
try opening Dolphin HD and then closing it again .....about 8+ seconds to do either, and that's with nothing else open.
instantaneous on the nexus with 2.2.
some apps are much slower than others, some there is no difference, but even the default samsung apps such as phonebook have a good lag when switching between tabs.
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I agree. I'm guessing you haven't used/owned a HTC Hero? If so, you haven't experienced the PAIN!! lol.
On my side I don't have any heavy app, I don't do games, or HD stuff what I expect from my phone is to be able to show me my mail ... and that's where I have plenty of lag ( not all the time but everyday for sure).
Lag to open the mail, lag to delete the mail, lag to come back on the homescreen.
Up to 15 sec to come back from the settings menu.
My benchmark is the iphone 3GS but also the HTC P3600 and the HTC diamond which are not that fast
I have never been waiting so long in front of my phone.
Excuse me if I am working with my phone and I don't want to wait 10 sec all the time.
And stop insulting people who complains please
Oh and the comment about installing 50 apps .... please learn how android is supposed to work. I should be able to install 1000 app without any problem. Who care about the number of app installed ???
By the way, when I have a lot of lag I go in systempanel to see what it my amount of memory and it's around 30-50 Mb so it should not be a problem.
Does anyone really think that the lag problems can be fixed by an official firmware update form Samsung? It seems that this is a hardware problem only: Samsung chose slow memory for the filesystem on which /data/ lives. How can this be overcome in an official update? Sure, there are some hacks out there that require buying an sdcard (and then never removing it) or using up the very last bit of NAND which will surely cause problems for some with lots of apps or with apps that have large databases. These hacks will probably work well for some, but Samsung won't do anything unless it is transparent to the end-user and works well for everyone. Is it even possible for them to do it?
I think there's a guide somewhere here that changes the filesystem to EXT3/EXT4 which improves performance.
Im very confident Samsung vill fix the "lags" hell Im on stock firmware and just by using luncher pro the lags are much less of a problem. Lets wait for the first official firmware update before we all start to panic
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I think there's a guide somewhere here that changes the filesystem to EXT3/EXT4 which improves performance.
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I think ext3/ext4 is part of one of the hacks involving an external sd card. It probably works very well, but is not an option for Samsung unless they decide to give every one a free sd card.
Fojae said:
Does anyone really think that the lag problems can be fixed by an official firmware update form Samsung? It seems that this is a hardware problem only: Samsung chose slow memory for the filesystem on which /data/ lives. How can this be overcome in an official update? Sure, there are some hacks out there that require buying an sdcard (and then never removing it) or using up the very last bit of NAND which will surely cause problems for some with lots of apps or with apps that have large databases. These hacks will probably work well for some, but Samsung won't do anything unless it is transparent to the end-user and works well for everyone. Is it even possible for them to do it?
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There is no question that there is, nearly terrible, issues with stock I/O performance. Everything else is zippy, even more so when you use LauncherPro with cached pages. Games are super fast, which makes me think that the memory speed isn't an issue for long-term performance. I do wish the internal storage was NAND, but other than that I think the hardware is top-notch and I wouldn't trade it away.
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There is no question that there is, nearly terrible, issues with stock I/O performance. Everything else is zippy, even more so when you use LauncherPro with cached pages. Games are super fast, which makes me think that the memory speed isn't an issue for long-term performance. I do wish the internal storage was NAND, but other than that I think the hardware is top-notch and I wouldn't trade it away.
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I agreed that everything but the io is excellent. However I rely on several i/o intensive apps like calendar, shopping lists, task managers, and all of these really suffer. I hope I am wrong and that samsung find a way to fix it.
I have no lag and I'm not using any fix.
just use this fix, and you wont get any lag
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=724251
even without that fix, you don't get lag if you use any of the many available task killers softwares
Intratech said:
I have no lag and I'm not using any fix.
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same here.
the lag is caused by the touchwiz interface over android ....remove touchwiz and it will be as fast as the nexus
As mentioned the third party stuff isn't really amazingly optimized at this point, but I reckon just changing the values at which levels android frees up memory should take care of most lags, even on stock firmwares.
Running JM2 with ext4 fix and AutoKiller I hardly ever notice any lags on my phone, if anything some apps sometimes takes half a second too long to load but it's nothing I can't live with.
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Saying that there is no lag for anybody just doesn't work. There are many, many documented reports of the lag here, youtube, other forums, etc... It's a known problem. I am using LauncherPro and I still have lag problems. Most notably, when I long press on a screen to create a new shortcut, it takes launcherpro sometimes about 15 seconds to bring up the list of applications. There are many other case of things taking 2 seconds when they should be nearly instantaneous.
The NAND fix does work: as a test I moved the Astrid task manager database to /dbdata and now Astrid flies. However, I don't believe that Samsung will be able to use the NAND memory as part of an official fix. Does anyone have any ideas or predictions on how Samsung can solve this problem?
I use Launcher Pro, task killer and still have SEVERE lag. Also very curious as to what solution Samsung mighy have up their sleeves and when we can hope it will br released.
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I'm starting to think that people who say they see no lag at all without any fix are either trying to convince themselves or just lack the ability to notice. I know I'm practically calling people delusional here, no offense, but come on... that would mean there's like a 1% of all shipped units that mount superfast internal SDs, that's unlikely.
Internal SDs are slow as &%£$. EXT4 on external SD fixes the problem for good. Maybe we're just gonna have to live with it...
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I'm starting to think that people who say they see no lag at all without any fix are either trying to convince themselves or just lack the ability to notice. I know I'm practically calling people delusional here, no offense, but come on... that would mean there's like a 1% of all shipped units that mount superfast internal SDs, that's unlikely.
Internal SDs are slow as &%£$. EXT4 on external SD fixes the problem for good. Maybe we're just gonna have to live with it...
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Yeah they all lag out of the box, no one got lucky and got sent a special/custom version with different hardware that doesn't lag.
Some people obviously are more acceptable of lag and don't call a small delay lag etc . There are some of course that after spending a lot on a device don't want to admit its flawed in some areas so keep saying mine doesn't lag etc, people can be strange sometimes .
Not all have the 10 seconds of black screens etc that you see on some of the youtube videos but without applying any fixes they all have delays here and there.
I agree with the above 2 posters, lag is VERY obvious out of the box. I came from Winmo 6 (where lag is the norm and not the exception...lol), so when I first got the SGS I too was very tolerant of the lag and was wondering what the heck people was complaining about.
Then I got to try out my friend's Desire. Everything just "moves" so fluidly...opening app drawer, changing wallpapers, opening the dialer, contact page, handcent etc. When I got back to my SGS I realize what I was missing. The SGS on paper is more powerful than Desire but doesn't perform as sweetly, UI-wise.
So far, mimocan fix + autokiller maybe mitigate 80% of it. But sometimes still lags badly, for eg; when adding shortcut ...the application list takes ages to come up. or adding widgets.
Anytime a new firmware leaks and we hear of people saying lag is fix...but I am still sceptical. I am on JG5 and things are still as before. Still need to apply fix.
With the external sd card partitioned to ext4, do you need a fast sd card? or would a class 2 work just as well for this lag fix?
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, for eg; when adding shortcut ...the application list takes ages to come up. or adding widgets.
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Um, I'm on JM2, with no lag-fixes, and my applications list for shortcuts come up instantly. Do you want me to make a youtube vid of it?
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Um, I'm on JM2, with no lag-fixes, and my applications list for shortcuts come up instantly. Do you want me to make a youtube vid of it?
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sure, if you feel like doing it
how many apps do you have installed, btw?
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sure, if you feel like doing it
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quite a few, but not a lot. I'll post a vid in the morning. Anything else besides adding widgets and shortcuts?
Now that I have had a few days playing with my new phone I thought I would leave some feedback.
Firstly the screen is amazing! I have had several iphone4 owners grovelling at it.
Swype is a touch of genius! I am using it now to type this and its fast as hell!
The battery usage is pretty severe compared to what I expected! Does apps like juice defender work?
Gps is flakey! My tracks was bouncing all over the place, so I guess I am joining the rest of you praying for a firmware fix. I will try co pilot tomorrow to see if its usable.
Lag was a problem, however have been using advanced task manager and it seems to help. I know rooting is supposed to be better with autokiller, but I believe rooting invalidates your warranty? Also, when I reboot my phone I have about 150mb free, but after a days use using adv task man I only have 55ish.
Anyhow in all I am happy with the phone, just need to work on the gps and lag.
Btw, how do I figure out my firmware number?
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in settings, about, and somewhere down the line.
You should be really restrictive when killing processes. Use the ignorelist for just about everything that might be used somehow by something.
Example, start the camera and it can take 2 - 4 sec to be ready to shoot. Have it idling in the background and its up in a split second. This goes for everything.
The onlu thing I kill is games, market and some other useless stuff i tend to run sometimes. Remember: you dont need a lot of free memory, for a quick phone you need your often-used-apps idling and loaded in mem.
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Now that I have had a few days playing with my new phone I thought I would leave some feedback.
Firstly the screen is amazing! I have had several iphone4 owners grovelling at it.
Swype is a touch of genius! I am using it now to type this and its fast as hell!
The battery usage is pretty severe compared to what I expected! Does apps like juice defender work?
Gps is flakey! My tracks was bouncing all over the place, so I guess I am joining the rest of you praying for a firmware fix. I will try co pilot tomorrow to see if its usable.
Lag was a problem
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Similar to my imrpessions in the first days. Screen is outstanding, the only reason I keep wanting to keep the phone. Swype is nice but didn't get used to it.. still type faster on my Nokia E72...but that is a matter of practicing.
GPS.. *sigh*. No comments. It is useless.
Also the lag was annoying but I won't complain much on that since I never tried any of the unofficial fixes.... still, out of the box it is a problem, definitely something Samsung didn't polish well enough.
Plenty of lag and memory fixes available.
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is lag really a major issue out of the box?
yeah theres a decent amount of lag out of the box, but TONS of fixes available
About the battery, OP, wait untill you pass 5-7 initial charge cycles. Battery time increases twofold or more.
On my first battery cycle, it wasted out in around 11 hours.
Now i get more than 2 days of heavy use, and up to 6 of light use.
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what lag?
i've not yet applied any so called "fixed" and i download all kind of free apps i can find in the market, and i don't have any noticeable lag
stock rom UK and Bell version
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what lag?
i've not yet applied any so called "fixed" and i download all kind of free apps i can find in the market, and i don't have any noticeable lag
stock rom UK and Bell version
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yeah come on !! what lag ?? I didn't see any thread talking about lag, any video .. nothing
There are lag fix but it is not to fix the lag ... as it doens't exist
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The battery usage is pretty severe compared to what I expected! Does apps like juice defender work?
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Yes. Buy it (ultimate Juice). You won't be let down.
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what lag?
i've not yet applied any so called "fixed" and i download all kind of free apps i can find in the market, and i don't have any noticeable lag
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Your SGS must be really different from mine, perhaps even one of the 6 units that were released in proper shape worldwide. Hang on to it.
Not only you have no GPS issues but you also have no lag.
Mine has no GPS and it lags on the stock ROM (JM2)
Sure. There are lag fixes. And you can always buy an external GPS unit for only 150€ or so.
I just have the nasty habit of presuming I won't need to fix anything right after unpackaging and booting or pay more after spitting out 599€ for a "cutting edge" smartphone.
Customers... always so ungrateful and never pleased. /spit.
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About the battery, OP, wait untill you pass 5-7 initial charge cycles. Battery time increases twofold or more.
On my first battery cycle, it wasted out in around 11 hours.
Now i get more than 2 days of heavy use, and up to 6 of light use.
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how many days passed since you bought the phone, and how many charging cycles?
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how many days passed since you bought the phone, and how many charging cycles?
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It also varies based on your applications though. With some applications running, phone can't sleep properly.
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About the battery, OP, wait untill you pass 5-7 initial charge cycles. Battery time increases twofold or more.
On my first battery cycle, it wasted out in around 11 hours.
Now i get more than 2 days of heavy use, and up to 6 of light use.
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I really hope your right, as mine is still not great tbh.
I will try ultimate juice to see if that helps..
Should I be doing anything in specific in the charge cycles? i.e letting it fully discharge, or anything else?
Ref Lag;
I did experience it out of the box, but only after using lots of multiple apps. I found that task killer fixed the problem, and I have not tried any other fixes.
However I still cant understand my RAM usage.
150MB free on boot, which then decreases to 130MB after say an hour.
2+ Hours later I am down into the 90's...and after 8+ hours into the 60's.
This is using task killer regular enough...so not sure why it happens.
Thanks for the replies guys, much appreciated.
Mine could sometimes take up to 10 seconds to open the phone app on the stock rom. Very annoying. Especially when there's an incoming call and you can't answer because the answer key just won't show up. Now I'm running the jg5 rom and samset 1.6 rom. And everything is lightning fast now. Faster than my iphone 4.
Using the Galaxy S as well for a while now. The phone is AWESOME. After the lagfix this is the best android device I ever messed with. I thought I would want to change the launcher but after getting used to the iPhone like design, touchwiz is actually one of the best skins I have seen. Rotates both ways, you can change the order of the homescreens easily and you can have as many as you want up to 7. It offers some cool widgets just like Sense does and the menu can be all reorganized and not be mixed up by alphabetical order. Even the built in keyboard is awesome for me. Fits with the rest of the design and its multitouch enabled. And you have Swype preinstalled if you want that as well. The camera is awesome and despite the lack of flash you can still take some really decent pics with this if there is some light around.
The screen is just on the sweet spot. 4" with Super AMOLED. Im in heaven really lol.
Even my mum that is a complete iPhone addict is now surrendered to this phone capabilities. Nice job by samsung and obviously by the genius who developed the lagfix and 1 click root.
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So i just got my galaxy s and there doesnt seem to be any lag at the mo.
Why is my baseband 19000nejg1?
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Your SGS must be really different from mine, perhaps even one of the 6 units that were released in proper shape worldwide. Hang on to it.
Not only you have no GPS issues but you also have no lag.
Mine has no GPS and it lags on the stock ROM (JM2)
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It's worth noting though that Beowulf_pt complained that reports of poor GPS and lag were the things holding him back from purchasing this phone (so I'm honestly wondering why he purchased the phone in the first place). Especially since purchasing it every post he has made seems to have been complaints about the GPS..
The Lag exists, but it doesn't make the phone unusable. Agreed it could be better, but whether it really affects anyone is questionable. It may be mostly fixable by switching scheduler and caching better. Remember, phones such as the Nexus one might be better currently, but they also shipped with a deluge of problems which are now fixed too.. Even the iPhone 4 did..
The GPS does have obvious issues (the accuracy indicator is still wrong, which to me suggests software), but other than the GPS, I am still happy with the phone. Also remember the battery issues depend on what you are running (some apps don't let the phone sleep properly).
I'm still happy to give them until Froyo to fix it. If Samsung doesn't fix it properly by then (and instead does something silly like tell us the "signal strength indicators are wrong"), then I'll try to get a refund. But at the moment, I'm willing to give them a chance.
It is surprising to read people who have no gps problems or lag issues straight out of the box, either they are very lucky and have bought fully functionaly sgs or are quite used to devices which take awhile to respond (I think it is the latter)!
Certainly there are fixes out there to improve the gps and lag issues but none have completely resolved the problem. I'm using JM5 which is working brilliantly and gps seems to work quite accurately especiallywith co-pilot no-other fix has been applied (to scared to!), the lag has also improved significantly but it does occassionaly freeze.
I'm also willing to give the boys at sammy a chance till 2.2 version is out or till Desire HD is launched, which ever comes first. Till then this is the best device out there inmho.
I too didn't notice any lag, until I installed the fixes, then the lag was noticeable as the phone was MUCH smoother.
I don't get it. I have compared my Vibrant to my Nexus one and 95% of the time the Vibrant is just as fast. Two exceptions, the market and speedtest.net app. Other than that, it flies! I will say before I did a hard reset the phone was in fact slow, it was a day and night difference after the reset. I get no lag, fast swipe through screens with TW launcher and apps open fast!
I have no lag that I can notice, but then again I don't bog my phones down with a ton of apps and games I will never use.
No lag. Stock rom, haven't factory resetted either. No GPS problems either without GPS fix o.0
Guess I was just lucky. I applied lag fix for the benchmarks for the hell of it though.
How speedy a device feels is very subjective and varies under different conditions.
I do have a Nexus One too ( in fact two) and in some respects it feels more responsive (mostly the menu, home, back and search button). Applications open faster as well.
Now, the comparison is not fair, ad the N1 is running Froyo and doesn't have the bloatware services installed by TMo (visual voicemail, my account, et al)
Browser and rendering speeds are much faster in the vibrant. Noticeably.
Download speed are much faster in the vibrant as well. Using Speedtest.net the vibrant scores 6 mbs vs 2 on the N1, same place, same time, same servers.
I think the biggest issue with the vibrant (other than the compass and the gps) is filesystem access, probablu due to using a large flash-based memory for storing apps.
I expect that when (if) the Froyo update arrives, the phone will fly.
In the meantime, and depending which apps people have installed and how they use the phone, some will continue to have better experiences with the N1, others with the vibrant.
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I don't have an N1 to compare to, but, there was definitely a lag. Tolerable most of the time, but it would be completely frozen during a single install of an app from market. And don't get me started on a phone reboot. I wish I had timed it to be exact, but it must have been 5 entire minutes from reboot to when I could open and actually use the camera again to record something. Opera loads probably twice (maybe 2.5 times) as fast. Engadget would literally take 5 seconds to come up and at *least* 5 seconds *per page* to load, if not more. I would hit the arrow and have to wait..and wait..and wait. Now, I can hit the arrow repeatedly and it scrolls through news (both new and old)
Maybe not all phones lagged, but mine certainly did. Hope froyo helps some so I'm not forced to run a hack to get around poor rfs performance (or whatever it is).
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No lag. Stock rom, haven't factory resetted either. No GPS problems either without GPS fix o.0
Guess I was just lucky. I applied lag fix for the benchmarks for the hell of it though.
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Would really like to know when people without gps or speed problems got their phones. I bought mine the 19th of July from costco.
Also, the, "take off all your apps and games you don't use regularly. Don't use any widgets on your screens. Don't use all 7 screens for apps or widgets" comments are counterproductive. The phone was DESIGNED for this kind of use and if it doesn't perform as designed. Well, that's a problem.
One more thing - people like me who post about perceived problems are not HATERS. I love the phone and its potential with future upgrades to the software and firmware. That's why I come to this forum, to gets thoughts from the android community. Besides, if everyone who loved the phone and had zero problems with it posted all the time there would be no room for those of us seeking advice.
After youtube vid by AKASKRILLER IM ROOTED DID LAGFIX IN 10MINS W/NO PC NOW IM BENCHIN 2100+........HELLLA FASSST
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I see what you did there...
Sent from mah fone.
LAG FIX IN 10MINS........http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dSg3qsD7QQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player
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I wanted to say that I did the lag fix via the update.zip method and everything flies now including the Geniewidget which would rarely load articles. Samsung needs to or has fixed this (not sure, we don't know until we get an official update) but.. I can use the TWLauncher now.
Coming from a G1 I don't see any lag compared to what I was used to. Running Launcher Pro I personally feel its a bit smoother than TW 3.0, but still works perfectly fine for me.
I often wonder if people just look for something to tweak because they simply can't leave things alone and constantly want to improve because they simply can.
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Coming from a G1 I don't see any lag compared to what I was used to. Running Launcher Pro I personally feel its a bit smoother than TW 3.0, but still works perfectly fine for me.
I often wonder if people just look for something to tweak because they simply can't leave things alone and constantly want to improve because they simply can.
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There is some lag that was very noticeable which happened every time you tried to use the market place and some random apps(the market was faster on my mt3g before the lag fix), after the lag fix the loading screen is gone if not instant.
Just did this update and I went from 983 to 2187! Awesome difference!
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Coming from a G1 I don't see any lag compared to what I was used to. Running Launcher Pro I personally feel its a bit smoother than TW 3.0, but still works perfectly fine for me.
I often wonder if people just look for something to tweak because they simply can't leave things alone and constantly want to improve because they simply can.
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Same story for me. I've never seen this lag that everyone is talking about (except for the one person that mentioned some lag when installing apps - EVERY Android phone lags for a few seconds while an app is installing). I run the standard TW home and rooted and uninstalled a few of the bloatware apps I'd never use. Don't really see any reason to do the "lag fix".
My X has been running slow and a little funny. I have froyo 2.3.15, with FlyX Rom, Revolution Themes, LauncherPro Plus, and Beautiful Widgets all running. Revolution was the last thing I added about a week ago and ever since then, it seems to be running different. Its slower to react, doesn't change from portrait to landscape very fast, whenever I unlock the screen, if I'm holding it straight up and down, it always opens into landscape mode. This seems like a pretty standard setup to a lot of people on here. Any advice and info on this topic would be appreciated, or just conversation about what others are running similar or different. Thanks a lot!
(also, I ran quadrant benchmark with scores between 1440 and 1495)
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My X has been running slow and a little funny. I have froyo 2.3.15, with FlyX Rom, Revolution Themes, LauncherPro Plus, and Beautiful Widgets all running. Revolution was the last thing I added about a week ago and ever since then, it seems to be running different. Its slower to react, doesn't change from portrait to landscape very fast, whenever I unlock the screen, if I'm holding it straight up and down, it always opens into landscape mode. This seems like a pretty standard setup to a lot of people on here. Any advice and info on this topic would be appreciated, or just conversation about what others are running similar or different. Thanks a lot!
(also, I ran quadrant benchmark with scores between 1440 and 1495)
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I cannot recall whether or not FlyX includes the build.prop modifications or not, if not you would definitely want to make those. Other than that the only other thing I would recommend is giving MinFreeManager a shot, it changes the "low memory" requirements for the built in memory manager (task manager) of android. If configured properly it can really make a difference in both battery life and performance (not speed, but responsiveness). It does not do it for you, it lets you set the fields, so learn how to do it first, it varies depending on your use of your phone, I don't run any facebook or other streaming applications so my settings are 6,8,16,60,60,150 but this could vary greatly, and may adversely affect others, so read up on the app in the market.
Again that app will improve responsiveness, in that it will give you less delay when swyping the screen in the UI and such, in that your phone does not have to kill a task to free up memory to complete the next task, it will not improve benchmarks, at the same time, poor memory management will give you poor performance in real world use but may not affect your benchmarks, another reason that benchmarks are poor ways of measuring performance.
Outside of that, what it really comes down to is our Android systems need hardware acceleration... Google really needs to get of there... well... you know... and get with the game here, based off the recent discussion and their advisement to manufacturers to hold of the release of tablets until the next android release, I am hoping they are currently implementing it, but without GPU hardware acceleration in the UI and web browser, we will constantly have the appearance of choppiness and the illusion of poor performance even on our overqualified phones... it is one area where I am sad to say the iPhone has us beat... very sad to say... as a matter of fact, I just washed my mouth out with a bit of soap...
EDIT: a good example of how well that application worked for me over actual "tasks killers" on the market such as task killer and such... before having this app installed and configured, a quick investigation of "settings, applications, running services" and viewing the available memory, it would display "Avail:16MB+98MB in ##" after having this app and having it configured it displays "Avail:72MB+116MB in 26" I am assuming my poor UI responsiveness was due to the first of the two numbers...
Yeah I always hate to say that about iPhones too but they do seem to keep the same speed and responsiveness ALL the time... Oh well, they've been around a little longer so Android will just have to keep working on it. I believe it'll be there soon. I will try that app you recommended. I appreciate the speedy response.
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Yeah I always hate to say that about iPhones too but they do seem to keep the same speed and responsiveness ALL the time... Oh well, they've been around a little longer so Android will just have to keep working on it. I believe it'll be there soon. I will try that app you recommended. I appreciate the speedy response.
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no problem, yeah, the iPhone has had GPU hardware acceleration in the UI since it came out, they structured their OS around it, Google chose otherwise, and I can only hope they regret that decision now... but hopefully they will make amends for that...
just make sure you read the post referenced in the app itself. It is written for the HTC Hero which only has 288MB of Ram as opposed to our 512MB Ram, but it still basically applies.
Keep in mind:
It does not automatically set on reboot until you tell it to, do not tell it to until you are sure the settings you have set do not mess with anything.
You probably will not notice a difference for about an hour... at least that's how long it took for me to truly notice a difference... I'm not really sure why, it apparently took that long for the priorities to take affect, and get the right processes killed, etc., etc. After that, especially later that day I was truly noticing a difference, especially in typing... I have always had a delay when typing on this phone, and that seems to be gone now...
yeah i was guessing that. i read an article at androidcentral.com about it and just set it to aggressive for now. applied it, but the specs under "running services" haven't changed so i'll give it an hour or so. i'll let you know how it turns out. thanks again!
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yeah i was guessing that. i read an article at androidcentral.com about it and just set it to aggressive for now. applied it, but the specs under "running services" haven't changed so i'll give it an hour or so. i'll let you know how it turns out. thanks again!
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Sounds good, your welcome and good luck!
If those settings work out for you without any problems, you'll probably want to up them a bit, it might say aggressive, but they are only so aggressive... If it makes a big difference for you then stick with them, if you still have slow down, and you are running what you described before, you can probably get away running settings similar to what I posted, just don't have them set on boot just in case, if they don't work out you can always set them lower or back to a preset. It is definitely something you can expiriment with, if worst comes to worst, you can always reboot, but as long as you don't touch the first 4 values, you won't mess anything up, the worst that you will do with the last 2 is temporarly screw up facebook sync. or something similar, and really you can get away with changing the 4th value to, it just has a chance of affecting more things, but I doubt you'll end up affecting anything with values around 50 anyway. Like I said, experimenting never hurts, slow phones do... Just keep an eye on it ;-) good luck again.
To add a little correction.if you are running fly x then you are not running 2.3.15 you are running the earlier related release it Is based on. Even if you did have2.3.15 before installing it fly x over writes the system to the files it uses. All roms do. Do you actually have like 2.3.9 I think
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It does say 2.3.9. I inquired about this before because I used teamblackhat to get .15 and the system never seemed to change to .15 every time I tried to download it... I guess that's why, because of flyx...
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After reading Captian Taco's post I was eager to try it out, and its actually making a big difference =D thanks!
Yes it is... its been running much smoother and more responsive all day. Thanks again captaintaco... (boy thats kinda funny to type...)
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Thanks CaptainTaco! Installed MFM to clear up my "lag" issues that are usually experienced in the evenings after a reset first thing in the a.m. each day. Before MFM it wasn't a huge deal to do a reset to clear up the issue, but I much prefer it to just work right all the time.
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Thanks CaptainTaco! Installed MFM to clear up my "lag" issues that are usually experienced in the evenings after a reset first thing in the a.m. each day. Before MFM it wasn't a huge deal to do a reset to clear up the issue, but I much prefer it to just work right all the time.
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Hey don't thank me, thank the creator of MFM, I'm pretty sure he was one of the first to discover the power of Androids integrated minimum memory management, if not the first. Just glad to share my discovery of his discovery haha. But yea, to be honest I don't even use a custom Rom anymore, it runs so quick just having that (thought it works even better in conjunction with your standard simplistic task killer such as "advanced task killer" just to kill apps in the foreground after you are done with them, since many apps don't include a way of closing themselves out...
I still try the custom Roms out and play around with them for the hell of it, but as for right now, I rely heavily on corporate integration, and most of the good blurless Roms remove features required for true and proper corporate sync, such as calender sync and the like... and I just don't like touchdown pro... So this helps me out greatly... remove some bloat, throw launcher pro on there, and get this fix fired up, phone runs like a dream... now if only they could get exchange active sync running like it was on Sense... best implementation I have seen of Exchange active sync so far... I do miss that...
Well after all the advice I ended up installing the zapx rom last night. Wow! It is sooo fast... everything just responds and reacts so much faster than before. I suggest installing zapx to anyone. Best rom so far I think...
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