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Was wondering what's the track record of Samsung getting custom Roms/firmware?
I really like how XDA have developers to do custom ROMS for HTC phones but was wondering does Samsung phones gets same treatment? Or will be looking at far and few in between updates from Samsung itself and won't be able to update to the latest and greatest?
Really want Nexus One but the Galaxy S is sooooooooo much better *sigh*
Can't answer your question on whether the Samsung will get the same amount of Dev time that has been lavished on the HTC phones, but I was in the same situation as yourself - Galaxy S or Nexus One.
I came down on the side of the Galaxy S simply because it's a better phone all round. There's a multi-touch vid on youtube comparing the responsiveness of the screens, and the Galaxy wiped the floor with the Nexus One. I'm hoping that the popularity of this phone will mean that the Devs on here will start giving some time to the Galaxy S.
I must admit I was initially drawn towards the Nexus One because of excellent work that has been done by the likes of Cyanogen et al, but I took the long term view that surely the same must eventually happen with the Galaxy S. *crosses fingers*
For the Galaxy, there is MoDaCo. For the Galaxy Spica, there is Samdroid. Don't know much about the others, but they weren't released here in Europe anyway.
I followed Samdroid a while, thinking about getting a Spica. There are some awesome things going on there - they even tried to modify the touchscreen sensor, because the hardware does support multitouch, but the driver doesn't. AFAIK, they had no success, but still nice try. And they even opened a board for the Galaxy S, maybe Leshak fetches one and works some magic there in the future. If not, I am pretty sure somebody will.
If you want to customize it to run the latest roms, the question is: how "open" is this device?
I know that HTC made the Desire a pain in the butt to unlock/root, and they will improve this with every new phone the make, making them more and more secure and block customized images.
Is Samsung going to follow the same strategy?
I think you're right Magicdroid, the question would be how open this is. But even though the Desire was a pain to root, it HAD been rooted just cos there's lots of developers. When there are lots of developers, you'll get rooted device
I wonder if the Galaxy S will get lots of user base.............I just hope lots and lots of ppl will pick it up and then the chance of longetivity with custom ROMS dramatically increases....
I'm hopoing for good community support as well. I have an AT&T Tilt, and have doen well on the XDA site. I'm spoiled
I am very interested in the Galaxy S, but I"m on At&T, and the AT&T version i keep reading about doesn't have the same specs. So having to wait and see on that.
Also, I see a lot of negative feedback on Samsung support, and based on their previous Android phone (Behold I think it's called) is not getting an upgrade. Lots of complaints about being abandonded by Samsung.
Not sure what I'll do. If At&T doesn't get decent phones soon, I mahy have to look do Verizon.
Sorry...I'm rambling off topic.
The Galaxy S looks like a great piece of hardware.
MarvinTheAndroid said:
There's a multi-touch vid on youtube comparing the responsiveness of the screens, and the Galaxy wiped the floor with the Nexus One.
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Hilarious! I just found it and laughed so much http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVlsRCMltDg
I was considering to buy a Nexus, but now I changed my mind...someday this mobile will hopefully get root and give enough space for customizations of every kind...just wait and see - it will come in the mid of June to Europe and I'm eager to hold one in my hands
I'm disciplining myself to not get this phone until there's a good team of developers move to it to get customizations going
aaahhh the wait the wait......
and, do you have one jet? the best mod is doctorz rom. it runs very smooth
God damn it. Did you sign up just to necro a thread that's over A YEAR AND A HALF old?
Hi GS Owners,
I recommend phones to my friends and have told many to hold on to their money till the release of Galaxy S.
My question to you is, will you recommend this phone to those who need a smartphone? heard that there few tiny issues here and there and do they play big part in purchase decision.
Regards,
Amar.
I would recommend this phone 100% to some one who live outside USA/Australia/Canada.
For other I would recommend Samsung Galaxy PRO. (epic 4g)
Yes indeed best android phone out in the market.
Galaxy is ideed a great phone and indeed threre are some issus (as with each phone now in the market). I have a Desire (also a very good quality, but app memory is tooooo small). Galaxy is much nicer and if you tweak it, much faster and much responciver
I'm normally disappointed with technology once I get it in my hands, but the Galaxy S has continued to impress me, and as a cynical, jaded old man, who works in the technology industry, that's quite hard to do. I recommended it.
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I would recommend this phone 100% to some one who live outside USA/Australia/Canada.
For other I would recommend Samsung Galaxy PRO. (epic 4g)
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why only to someone the live outside the USA? is the t-mobile version a bad choice?
Perrosky said:
why only to someone the live outside the USA? is the t-mobile version a bad choice?
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No it isn't a bad choice at all but the Sprint version of the Galaxy S has more features.
engadget.com/2010/06/28/samsungs-epic-4g-for-sprint-seems-to-live-up-to-its-name
Thanks at on guys for the response. I think I can force few of my friends to get GS and thanks a lot of the inputs.
YES!!!
Great Phone, light weight, clear reception, self customization possible, and of course, it you hate iPhone.
Best smartphone ive used in a while
I would definately recommend the galaxy to friends, its not without its quirks like the GPS works but seems to be a little jumpy and it doesnt have a flash for some reason. Other than that its the best phone i have ever used, its not perfect but its a huge improvement on my old touch hd. It has one of the best screens on a smartphone ive ever seen, i dont care that the iphone 4 has more ppi - the contrast and brightness of the samsung screen is amazing.
The only thing i am disappointed with is the android market (lack of apps and general quality of apps), but im sure this will improve.
My smartphone history:
HTC Touch - too slow
HTC TYTN II -too chunky
HTC TOUCH HD - bad screen (unresponsive)
SAMSUNG GALAXY S -great (few quirks)
the reasons I want to go with it is because I want to stay with tmobile since it's the cheapest company in plan terms $119 for 2 phones unlimited everything? sprint or verizon can't beat that and because out of all the samsung galaxys is the desing that I like the most I have red here about alot of things don't working but they are software related and I know once dev start making roms for it that will go way, no led flash I don't care about that I don't think that any phone with a 2 little led will make much difference when taking a picture, no led notification I would like to have that but not a deal braker for me. I think devs will pay attention to this phone it have 16gb build in memory so installing new roms even if they are bigger in mb would be more easy than move them to sd cards, the only thing its that I need the phone to tether good since I want to use the phone internet in my Ipad OR notebook.
Yep, I would
Hey guys, apologies in advance if I'm in the wrong place.
My gf is just about to upgrade her device and wants to go to a droid phone but doesn't want the extra cost to get a galaxy S, but she's determined to stay with a samsung device.
So, we checked out her options, and one offered by t-mo uk is the galaxy apollo. Now, I've never heard of that device, and its not listed here or wikipedia, but there are some reviews that say its running eclair and the model number i5801, which led me to this forum, thinking its a spicia variant(like how the galaxy s has the fascinate and so on)
So yeah, is the apollo an updated spicia or a cut down galaxy S or what ? And how comes no-one seems to be talking about the device. The reviews seem to indicate that it would have launched in the past couple of months but apparently to no great interest.
So yes... I figure that someone here will know what this device actually is and if there is anyone developing for it, or if its just a flash in the pan that isn't worth investing in.
Cheers guys, sorry for rambling!
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well it's better than the spica that it has a radio,
and lesser than the spica that it has a very less resolution, and the processor is slower.
a friend of mine just bought it and after using the spica i was not impressed with the screen clarity when compared to the spica, but a good value for money phone, considering it costs around 12,000 INR.
also it has the samsung's touchwiz which i personally hate ...
I would suggest the Acer Liquid, one hell of a phone if the budget permits, with a lot of devs working on the liquid.
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well it's better than the spica that it has a radio,
and lesser than the spica that it has a very less resolution, and the processor is slower.
a friend of mine just bought it and after using the spica i was not impressed with the screen clarity when compared to the spica, but a good value for money phone, considering it costs around 12,000 INR.
also it has the samsung's touchwiz which i personally hate ...
I would suggest the Acer Liquid, one hell of a phone if the budget permits, with a lot of devs working on the liquid.
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Ah, so its definitely not actually a Spicia device then... Anyone know if it is developed for at all ?
Don't get me started on exactly why she HAS to stay with a samsung device and HAS to stay on her current network. If I could get her a Spicia (i think they call it Portal here) then I would, but alas the choice is between Jet, Wave and Apollo. Since Jet and Wave are basically feature phones with pretensions, at least the Apollo gives her the app store, proper email and internet and well... all the reasons why droid is a good thing .
^ As of now I have not seen any development on the Apollo.
i have Sony X10, Galaxy S, and I5700
Please get Galaxy S, you won't regret it.
it's got one of the best touch screen (sesitivity and accuracy)
I got i5700 as a backup android for my GalaxyS and I can't stand the small screen and screen inacuracy,
worst is Sonyericsson X10.
it's a total garbage.
Hey guys.
I'm buying a Samsung Galaxy S tomorrow and I was presented two choices: the 8 GB european I9000, unbranded, and a 16GB T-Mobile Vibrant (which comes with a free 16 GB SD card, for 32 GB total). Both are unlocked and the same price. 3G frequencies are the same, so I'm down to design and minor differences.
Which one you guys, who are by far more experienced with those models than me, think I should get? I don't know if I'm asking in the right forum, but I think it's kind of a general question right?
Is the T959 reliable to get 2.2 and the GPS fix and stuff? I think "update-wise" the i9000 would be a better choice, but I don't know.
Thanks for your attention!
So with the Vibrant unless a front facing camera is a big deal to you.
There are many good Froyo roms on it already with working GPS.
The issue is I don't think I feel confident enough on my skills to flash a custom ROM for the Vibrant. I'm kinda of even worried about rooting it, since I had bad experiences with flashing things before and bricking them (damn you, Nokia), so I was thinking about keeping it "original".
Would it still be the better choice even if I choose to keep the official ROM? I was kind of worried about the bloatware software there seems to be on the T-Mobile version, with Avatar and all these useless apps, and there's now way to get rid of them without rooting, so...
Where are you going to be using the device? What country/countries?
The I9000 has much better ergonomics, in my opinion. I own an I9000M and a T959D, and the three-button layout on the I9000 is FAR superior in terms of usability to the 4 button all-capacitive layout on the T959.
I don't care who you are and how agile you are, you spend a great deal of time fighting with inadvertent/wrong keypresses on the 4-button devices, with the Search button being a particularly bad offender.
The I9000 also comes with a working FM radio, front facing camera, and "generic" support from Samsung so you're not tied to a slow moving US carrier for updates (and they are the slowest in the world, just about, short of Canada).
The loss of 8gb internal storage is a bit of a hit, but it's not the end of the world, especially when you consider most other Android devices (HTC mostly) released in 2010 had like 2gb or less internal storage to start with, and they get along just fine.
That said, the T959 is still one heck of a device, looks a bit less like an iPhone thanks to not having the big button, and should "wear" a little better since all the buttons are under glass.
I'll be using it in Brazil, most of the time. Here we have the I9000B with DTV tuner and stuff but it's crazy expensive (double the price I'm paying to import a phone with all taxes paid, I mean... it's really out of question, and our carriers are doing awful stuff with it. Most notably, one of them removes Gmail and Google Maps).
I was thinking just about that, about hitting the capacitive buttons so often that usability would have a hit.
The updates coming straight from Samsung would be a nice advantage, then? since T-Mobile didn't even give a ETA for froyo yet, right?
Well, so I think I'll be going the I9000 way and buy a SD card to compensate the lsos of storage. You're great, guys. Thanks a lot for your help!
Neither, wait for the Nexus S
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Neither, wait for the Nexus S
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+1 . some good phones coming out soon.
As all of you know the Atrix is only available in US & Canada and most of the rumors point to may/june release date .
Today i read at gsmarena that the Galaxy S II will be supporting a 1.2 Ghz dual-core processor ! .Then i looked at the specifications and they were pretty much attractive like the 4.3 SAMOLED+ screen , the 32 GB memory and the 8 MP camera !
What really made me go through the phase of confusion is that the Galaxy S II is coming to europe this month or the beginning of may
My question is if you were in my situation what will you choose and does the atrix deserve all the waiting ?
The atrix is good, and has its quirks, but so does every phone. All the problems of the atrix are well-known.
As for the galaxy s2, may I remind you of a little incident with the last generation? Specifically something pertaining to GPS?
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I do remember it , actually my sister is suffering from this problem right now along with some other problems like the filing system .
The problem is that i'm waiting for the atrix for a pretty long time and i read a lot of articles about impressions and reviews for the device so you know that a man in my position well have his doubts , especially when i still haven't got a try of the device.
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As all of you know the Atrix is only available in US & Canada and most of the rumors point to may/june release date .
Today i read at gsmarena that the Galaxy S II will be supporting a 1.2 Ghz dual-core processor ! .Then i looked at the specifications and they were pretty much attractive like the 4.3 SAMOLED+ screen , the 32 GB memory and the 8 MP camera !
What really made me go through the phase of confusion is that the Galaxy S II is coming to europe this month or the beginning of may
My question is if you were in my situation what will you choose and does the atrix deserve all the waiting ?
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Dude.. I think the Samoled screens are incredible when it comes to color *but the reality is they look all nice just because all the color is oversaturated*.
Resolution will be same old crap, phone will be thin but with a crappy finish.
Now the the real real real thing you must think about... Samsung has crappy quality control. Guaranteed. I urge everyone who reads this to look up i9000m corrupt SD in google and you will find the polls here on XDA on the ridiculousness of the lack of interest from Samsung to do anything and even admit a mistake... and B, their way of addressing this so called "issue" after 7 months post release.
If you want to know the horror stories i had to live with the i9000 and how finally after my 3rd phone died, i simply decided to go out and buy a new one... just ask and I'll tell you more
500 bucks down the drain and eventually, I managed to get it to boot a semi working filesystem. It chewed up one brand new SD card, gg.. and now i gave it to my wife because all it does is look pretty and make calls.. also lets not even mention their horrible commitment to updates and more importantly their crappy choice in filesystems (related specifically to the i9000).
By the way, in case you do not know. The i9000 is the Original Galaxy S..
Yeah, people can ***** about motorola all they want, I'll NEVER be buying samsung again..
PS: Most people say the Nexus S redeemed samsung, but its a pretty known fact, google set the spec sheet and phone workes great because its an i9000 with all the quirks already ironed out and of course running AOSP gingerbread.
yeah... GG
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1024557
I enjoy my atrix very much. Even with the locked bootloader the psuedo roms are working fine until we get that bad boy decrypted!
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it really depends if the galaxy s2 will have the same problems as the original. the two main problems i had with the phone that made me sold it was the gps never working right and not very accurate when it does. The other is reception/deathgrip i mostly use my phone in a low reception area, 2-3 bars at best, and every time i pick it up it would always drop down to 1 bar or edge and would constantly drop calls. I couldn;t make a call longer than 5 mins before it would be dropped if im in a low reception area.
all the problems with teh atrix is pretty minor compared to these imo. if samsung fixed these problems and super amoled plus screen is as good and some are saying then i will consider it, it was nice to have all those roms and mods(assuming the bootloader can be cracked)
im also skeptical on the build quality. all teh galaxy s phones felt pretty cheap with teh captivate being the best of the worst...
I suggest you Galaxy S2 while Atrix is now a troubles maker by many issues.
gachiennuocmam said:
I suggest you Galaxy S2 while Atrix is now a troubles maker by many issues.
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"Troubles" Like what?
I see a couple of Wifi posts and the lag seems to be fixed by launcher pro?
What other troubles?...
My Atrix is being returned to AT&T in about 10 days. I'm hoping to get a SGSII.
If I was in your position, I would wait till I could play with both of them. Because I like to do a lot of web browsing and text related stuff, I almost always choose the phone that has the higher pixel density and/or higher resolution. It just makes reading small text so much more pleasant.
I guess this only matters to people with sharp eyes, who like reading small text though.
gachiennuocmam said:
I suggest you Galaxy S2 while Atrix is now a troubles maker by many issues.
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I thank you there, for our daily lesson in grammer.
Stay away from samsung android phones. Samsung can help very screw up the os. I had a galaxy s and bought an atrix out of pocket, best thing i ever did.
Samsung lured to us about when they would update to 2.2 for 6 months. And their android ui is very ham fisted. Don't go samsung.
Does the Galaxy S ll have a Nvidia Tegra dualcore processor? No. LOL. But Cyanogenmod would be really nice to have. And I know it will get it. Oh well.
gachiennuocmam said:
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This post is an example of a fail Chinese to English translation.
It won't be long after release for us to know whether GPS works well on the SGS2 or not, and whether the phone has any other quirks. Things like this, such as Atrix touch and other issues only take days to come to light on XDA. (The touch issue would really piss me off, I hope they fix that for Atrix owners soon, too bad Bell will delay any fix for months like they do any update).
I'm satisfied with resolution of the i9000m SD defect in my case. They repaired it, it works now end of story. I have doubts about how you managed to kill 3 i9000's that don't even really have reported hardware issues...(or did you you say the $500 was down the drain but you managed to get it working again?) With an unlocked bootloader comes great responsibility.
The major upgrade with samoled+ on SGSII is that it is RGB, no longer pentile. Hardly 'same old resolution' when it will now have double the Red/Blue subpixels with full 800x480. Compared to qHD RGBW pentile it will have ~10% more total subpixels and 48% more R/G/B subpixels (since it only has 480x270).
The thing that will keep my away from pentile in the future is how crappy solid primary or almost-primary colours (just R/B in SGS case) look with effectively half the resolution.
Dark Sector said:
As all of you know the Atrix is only available in US & Canada and most of the rumors point to may/june release date .
Today i read at gsmarena that the Galaxy S II will be supporting a 1.2 Ghz dual-core processor ! .Then i looked at the specifications and they were pretty much attractive like the 4.3 SAMOLED+ screen , the 32 GB memory and the 8 MP camera !
What really made me go through the phase of confusion is that the Galaxy S II is coming to europe this month or the beginning of may
My question is if you were in my situation what will you choose and does the atrix deserve all the waiting ?
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If the Galaxy S II comes to AT&T then why the hell would you get the Atrix??? lol
well unless you don't want to wait.
I wanted a SGS II, but couldn't wait so I bought the Atrix.. I like the fingerprint scanner, plus when a dual core optimized update drops it shouldn't really matter too much... IMHO...
I want to thank all of you guys for telling me about your opinions .
I guess i'll follow the GS2 forum to see if the GS2 have technical flaws like GS did .
The more the technical flaws decreases the more the possibility of me buying it increases .
BravoMotorola said:
Does the Galaxy S ll have a Nvidia Tegra dualcore processor? No. LOL. But Cyanogenmod would be really nice to have. And I know it will get it. Oh well.
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The GS2 will come in 2 versions . One with Nvidia processor and the other with Exynose processor .