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[Q] [4 July] [DISC] Is there any phone as sweet as the HD2?

Well my Hermes is getting a little old and I'm shopping for a new phone. The HD2 seems extremely awesome. I love that I could always fall back to WM6.5 if WP7 and Android don't suit me. It seems this phone is also quite common so with a little patience I should be able to find one at a price I want to pay. The only thing that I'm not crazy about it the lack of a hard keyboard. I see that there is a Toshiba K01/IS02 with a hard keyboard that also has a capacitive screen even though it shipped with WM6.5 but it seems to be a rare and undeveloped phone.
Can anyone tell me if there are any other WM6.5/WP7 phones besides the HD2?

I think no atm,

I too was not keen on no hardware keyboard but ended up getting a T-Mob HD2 because the price was right.
All I can say is typing on screen is far faster than any HTC hardware keyboard I have tried & you can use a mini hardware keyboard via BlueTooth if required.
All in all the lack of hardware keyboard was a step forward for my typing experience ...

For the criteria you are asking HD2 is the best. This is the best dual OS phone out there. And I agree with previous post that screen keyboard is way better. My prevois phone was TyTyn II but I think I like sceen keyboard more than hard keyboard. It just takes a little time to get use to typing on the screen. I am really happy with HD2 and I can not think of the better phone for now that does not cost more than 300 euro and have such features. But the choice is yours. Good luck.
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Wait a sec. No video out? What the dip?

evilwise said:
Wait a sec. No video out? What the dip?
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Indeed that was a big mistake from HTC ... The flagship model at the time with no video out ! between that & the selected battery capacity some HTC designers & market researchers should of been shot ...

Well I'm not sure about w7 but the HTC touch pro 2 can run Android & w6.5..(a bit laggy though & very outdated) & also has tv out I believe. It's been sometime since I've owed it so I can't remember. I text (up 2) 4000 texts each month & Im coming from the mytouch slide which has a keyboard....I have 2 say I really dont miss it. I will admit it took me a good few days b4 I could text as fast as any of my old phones that had a keyboard.
Personally I would suggest to buy a phone that has good development that way you won't be left in the dark. Going from the tp2 to the mytouch was horrible bc I had a phone that was well developed & then went 2 a phone that was slim pickins 2 mod it.
Sent from my Desire-HTC HD2 using XDA App

The Desire HD is sort of like an upgraded HD2. I hear that a lot of devs are also working on it.

I was just like the OP, really excited that I could fall back on to WM6.5 if I didn't like Android or WP7. Then I moved to Android and never looked back.
I do admit the HD2 is a beastly device, I can't think of any other device that is nearly as hackable... the HD2 runs WM6.5, WP7 and Android all basically as if those were all natively supported.
Still though, it will soon be 2 whole years since the HD2 was announced. I personally had one for 18 months before buying a Galaxy SII. The HD2 looks pretty modern on paper... 4.3" screen, Snapdragon processor... but next to a truly modern phone like the GSII the HD2 looks clearly dated.
I put WP7 on the HD2 but it's not really my cup of tea. I also tried going back to WM6.5 but after a year with Android I found it laughably slow and clunky. So I may end up selling the HD2, though it would be by far the hardest device I've ever parted with.
I don't really know what to tell the OP. The HD2 is a hell of a phone and can run the newest versions of WP7, but when you set it next to a newer, official WP7 device you will see the differences. If you don't already own an HD2 I'd advise getting a WP7 phone, maybe one with a better screen than the HD2 has got... unless you really have a need to still be running WinMo 6.5.

wildfire dipped in honey+chocolate sauce is sweet !!

Love the hd2. Got it for it's support of tzone grandfathered plans on 3g. Wm6.5 is a joke. I could not believe how amazing the phone was after removing that dead weight of an os.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using XDA App

I am too trying to upgrade my HD2. I am thinking of Nexus one. It seems similar in many ways to HD2, but will have a better battery life. My plan is to: sell HD2 + $50 = Brand new Nexus one.
I was also thinking of Moto Defy...

AntonJart said:
I am too trying to upgrade my HD2. I am thinking of Nexus one. It seems similar in many ways to HD2, but will have a better battery life. My plan is to: sell HD2 + $50 = Brand new Nexus one.
I was also thinking of Moto Defy...
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I'd recommend looking at a Nexus S... a bit plastic, but the Nexus One is long in the tooth now, in terms of hardware.

Wow thanks for all the input today, Guys! I discovered a couple more things today that are going to affect my phone purchase. The first thing is that the T-Mobile branded HD2 does not support the 850 band and I am an AT&T user so not only would I not get 3G on it, but AT&T generally sends me angry emails when I use like a gig of data while "roaming" on T-Mobile's towers.
I doubt I'm going to be able to get an HD2 that does HSDPA850 at a bargain price so I checked out my upgrade options through AT&T. I am considering the following phones which I can get practically free, and here's my thoughts on each from most to least likely to be my next phone.
Samsung Focus - I've played with this phone at the store and it has the nicest looking screen by far of the three AT&T branded WP7 phones. Looks nice (except no video out). Everyone posting ITT has given me some faith in on-capacitive-screen keyboards and I must have had to work on my Hermes a million times because of the slide mechanism damaging, or more often just twisting the ribbon cable. I guess the only doubt that I have in my heart about this phone is that it's a WP7 only phone and I don't believe in WP7 largely because it's not backwards compatible with any of my WM6.5 apps. It boggles my mind that someone asked why I would want WM compatibility after I have spent nine years using it.
HTC Inspire - Seems like a pretty solid Android phone, and one of only two Android phones in the price range I want to pay (although still $50 more than the Focus). Video out only through DLNA
iPhone 3g 8gb - I think we all know everything we need to know about this animal. It's solid, spare parts are plentiful, and it's extensively developed. I just hate Apple. I don't want to have to install iTunes on my computer and so forth. Still may be my choice purely for resale value.
LG Quantum - Ditto most of the Samsung Focus opinion. Noticeably poorer screen (smaller and backlit LCD vs OLED), but does have a hardware keyboard and is the form factor I am accustomed to from the last six years with Wizard and Hermes. I guess Focus or HD2 would just feel like Wallaby in my pocket though.
Samsung Solstice II - Basically what the Quantum is to the Focus, the Solstice is to the Inspire in the Android arena. Smaller, poorer screen in exchange for a slide out keyboard. DLNA compatible though.
Palm Pre Plus and Palm Pixi - Seem like decent phones but a little too cute for me. Plus I have even greater misgivings about Palm's WebOS than I do about WP7.
Sony Ericcson Vivaz - I carried an Ngage for a while switching back and forth with Wallaby. There seemed to be a lot of development for Symbian back then and it was stable. Probably not the thing to discuss on this forum though..
Anyway, hopefully I'm not derailing my own thread too much or getting it off the topic of the section I posted it in but I appreciate all the replies and would love to hear what everyone thinks. Deciding which phone to get can be a real brain drain! And what's up with hardly anything having video out? My friend's Evo has a freakin' HDMI port right on it!

What phone will you take after your HD2?

Hi there,
I was wondering what phone you would get, after your hd2...
Still love this phone and don't know wich phone to take... i'm start looking for a phone on wich i can just as hd2 can tweak alot
On hd2 i can use WP7 + alot of different android roms.... and (still using) windows mobile... For example i havn't find a gps nav software like igo 8 for android or wp7
What phone will you get after your hd2? And why?
Just wondering
Bye

Another HD2 ?
I looked into this but seriously there isn't one that i would like it to be the replacement for my HD2, i had a desire (great AMOLED screen but meh), a Desire HD (very nice phone, no extended battery but meh, just android?)..and so on.

uhm...i'd pick any phone that's prettier than my hd2..and a phone that won't freeze on me after every text or so..also..i have a thing for slide phones..i'm sorry i cant deal with full touch screens...>__<..i'm considering the myTouch (violet) phone...but i don't like the tiny screen... =[ *sniffles* if only my hd2 could have all the cute lil android stuff...

Just bought another hd2...
It will run wp 7 and Android.. .
This phone is da bomb!

can anyone help me
i think of getting a used htc hd2 am really amazed by the multi os system am getting it at resonable price of around 13000 INR its 6 months old and is in good condition
if i get it now wont it be like am missing out any thing that present has to offer????
so what do guys suggest this phone or any other???

buying used HD2 is some kind of risk. Everybody knows about it`s issues with CPU heating and damaging digitizer with constant pressing red/cancel button.
But this phone is definitely unique, especially at nowadays price. Not the most powerful but the most customizable

vandal_ said:
buying used HD2 is some kind of risk. Everybody knows about it`s issues with CPU heating and damaging digitizer with constant pressing red/cancel button.
But this phone is definitely unique, especially at nowadays price. Not the most powerful but the most customizable
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so is there anyway to determine the digitizer and stuff are in good shape?
Phone i saw looks gud atlst otsde is gud
n ya nt mst powrfull device bt stil a 1ghz processor is stil gud aint it?

I'm thinking of buying the Galaxy Nexus because it seems to be a really great phone.
But the fact is that the HD2 is the best phone if you want to change roms, try windows, meego, ubuntu, android.
So I'm still hesitating.
The best thing would be to find a ne phone (faster one) with the same dev community

I'm trying to hold out until the HTC EDGE is out about March next year according to a HTC rep I was speaking to.
Unfortunately for me my back button on the HD2 has just stopped working today
Hoping I can find a way to fix it.

I'm also asking myself the question about what next after HD2 because mine just have this damned digitizer problem : no way to unlock the screen !!!
I've tried 3 Android ROMs , 1 WM ROM and even the Orange stock ROM : same problem everytime so it's definitely a hardware problem...
The Samsung Galaxy S2 looks nice, but I wonder about its quality and ability to be customized.

The best thing to do is figure out what you want it for. I'd probably go with a sensation or Droid RAZR depending on what has more activity on XDA. Honestly that's the only real way to go forward IMO. Track new phone progress on XDA and see which ones have a lot of progress and supoort in CM and other devs. Then get that used on Craigslist or eBay before it becomes super popular. I got the HD2 when Android still didn't work on it, and that let me pick it up for $115 then second one I got was 2 months later and it was already $150. Now, almost 2 years later it's $250. That's just amazing. The same thing might happen to other phones once they get good dev support on XDA and you have a bunch of code heads trying to pick them up used.
Sensation, RAZR, Thunderbolt, MyTouch 4g is okay. I'd just stick with good companies with good support. HTC IMO is the best there is for smartphones.

Many phones are good for customisation. The only problem is the dev community.
We should all choose the same new phone so that we can have a great community.
So, go galaxy nexus^^
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Samsung galaxy s2 skyrocket.
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galaxy note
I'll be getting galaxy note. Once you get used to a big screen, you'll never be satisfied with smaller one.

I am thinking SGS2, looks like there will soon be some good DEV's shifting to it.

sociojeje said:
I'll be getting galaxy note. Once you get used to a big screen, you'll never be satisfied with smaller one.
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Ye, that was I thought too. I've cheked some tests, benchmarks etc and Galazy note is the best phone on the marked. I've played with Galaxy S II and it's fastest device i saw. All the test says that Galaxy Note is even faster and better.

[Q] From HTC HD2 (TMobile) to Galaxy Note

Is it worth the upgrade, considering I paid full price for a SIM-free HD2 about 3 years ago and would be doing the same with the Note now?
Is the Note's screen brighter than the HD2?
How about the weight difference?
Is it possible to read PDFs on the Note? On the HD2 is a bit of a nightmare, as I need to zoom all over the place to read properly.
Does it play Divx out of the box?
Finally, when will the Note get an ICS upgrade? Gingerbread is old news already.

rodrigorajao said:
Is it worth the upgrade, considering I paid full price for a SIM-free HD2 about 3 years ago and would be doing the same with the Note now?
Is the Note's screen brighter than the HD2? yes
How about the weight difference? it feels lighter than the hd2 as itsmuch bigger
Is it possible to read PDFs on the Note? On the HD2 is a bit of a nightmare, as I need to zoom all over the place to read properly. pdf are fine no problem, dont have to zoom in, more pixels remember
Does it play Divx out of the box? yes with ease! and there are many apps to play high profile mkv at 20mb/s like dice player
Finally, when will the Note get an ICS upgrade? Gingerbread is old news already.
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TBH its amazing, the hd2 is an old toy, was good back in the day buts its slow and old! Its 2011 remember!

I had an HD2 on T-Mo and I've upgraded to the Galaxy Note and I'll tell you it's the best decision I've ever made! The HD2 was awesome at the time but after using the note for just over a month it makes the HD2 feel a tiny and outdated piece of hardware. Viewing pdf's is so easy on the Note with all the real estate and you'll have no issues with needing to zoom, I regularly view bus and train timetables and at the standard zoom I can read everything without any issues or strain.
The screen is a million times better than the HD2, I can't even describe! I had both devices briefly before I sold my HD2 and everything just looked pixelated in relation, I don't know how I ever used it! The Note is seriously the best piece of tech I've ever had in my pocket. The only thing I can think of that was better on the HD2 is that the sound was better when I plugged it into a set of speakers but otherwise the Note is superior in every way.

I have used the HD2 since it first came out. I have installed Android and WM7 on it because it is an awsome and flexible phone. I also had a galaxy Tab 7". When I first saw the Galaxy Note it was love at first sight. I have been using it for 2 weeks now, and everyday it gets better. I now use the one device for everything. I recommend the note.

Last two years switching between HD2 and Milestone. I missed sometime hardware keyboard from Milestone or the size of the two phones when i'm in subway or bus ^^ but can you remember me of what phone(s) we are talking now?
Can't wait to take the train of plane to watch some good stuff on it.
You may missed the notification led.

Try here too... (on a search...)
"Members upgrading from HD2, kindly share ur views.."
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1345842&highlight=htc+hd2
I too, am sooo twitching to get one...

At the moment of writing this post both my HD2 and GNote are sitting on the table,the HD2 in the craddle,while the GNote waiting hers to arrive from the ebay,
I have been using the Hd2 for the past 2 years,and never thought anything else could replace it its almost as new as day one,its the longest time I have ever stayed with a phone,may be couple of weeks more or less than my first iphone.
Hd2 is the greatest phone I have ever had,Screen,size,camera,built quality,and despite porting the WP7 and Android on it from time to time I remained loyal to WM with CleaNEX custom ROM, since everything I needed I could do on it,it was and still is a great phone,I can go on and on pages about it.
However time goes on and changes come along with it.
I bought my GNote one week ago,and should say that it is by far the better device,the wow factor is awsome,just beware of the Iphone users they could get too hostile when seeing it!!.
When buying the GNote I promised myself that I use the HD2 from time to time,but looks like will not happen.
You can play all kind of videos on it by installing the MXvideo app from the market.Cant be compared to the old Core Player.
Gingerbread is not as bad as you may think it is,though every each one of us are waiting for the ICS,We have two SG tab 10.1 Honeycomb at home cant see much difference.
HD2's sound is much higer after insatlling the SRS WOW HD on it,but samsungs sound quality is unmatched.
I paid $750 for my GNote,for that money did I get the equivalent of more functionality than the HD2 ?hard to say,but should say that I enjoy using it more than keeping the money in the pocket.
I would surely buy again.

I still have HD2 and have the note since a few days.HD 2 is still a great device.I only upgraded because of broken glass.HD2 is made of better quality parts.best example is the battery cover.HD2:stylish metal, note: extreme thin plastic, almost like paper.
But: the note has a great display and is great and better in technical aspects.I would never change it back.it is a great device.
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OP, are you still on T-Mobile or are you switching to AT&T? I ask because getting the Note for T-mobile = no 3G.

grouchy about the dupe thread... me? Never
Try here too... (on a search...)
"Members upgrading from HD2, kindly share ur views.."
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...hlight=htc+hd2

ukdutypaid said:
grouchy about the dupe thread... me? Never
Try here too... (on a search...)
"Members upgrading from HD2, kindly share ur views.."
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...hlight=htc+hd2
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"Page not found" - that's why this thread was opened ,

romac said:
I have used the HD2 since it first came out. I have installed Android and WM7 on it because it is an awsome and flexible phone. I also had a galaxy Tab 7". When I first saw the Galaxy Note it was love at first sight. I have been using it for 2 weeks now, and everyday it gets better. I now use the one device for everything. I recommend the note.
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same same same... i even had the GTp1000 7 inch for about 6 months.
All on AT&T phone and data...
This GN7000 is the best of both worlds.

PoisonWolf said:
OP, are you still on T-Mobile or are you switching to AT&T? I ask because getting the Note for T-mobile = no 3G.
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Neither one.
I'm not in the US at all. I got the Tmobile version because it has more RAM and it came unlocked.

Towserspvm2000 said:
"Page not found" - that's why this thread was opened ,
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Well that serves me right then doesn't it....See, you get all grouchy and it comes back and bites you. For a reason...
Link to the other HD2 thread
"Members upgrading from HD2, kindly share ur views"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...ers+upgrading+from+HD2,+kindly+share+ur+views
More than happy to shurrup if it doesn't work this time and go back under the rock whence I came. I've already wasted three posts and all your valuable reading time on this.

Well,
Here I am sitting with my HD2 with it's guts out (switching SIMs, microSD...) and the shiny new note getting charged by its side (not switched on yet!). Looks like we HD2 owners love big screens and great performance, right?
But my HD2 is not getting sold, no way! I'm flashing it anew so my mother can have a great phone for many years still!
Got to go (and check howto root/flash new ROMs )

i have been using my SGN for close to a week now. I have had HD2 and I liked the phone but got tired of changing roms and wanted a real (native) device. I bought the HTC G2 and liked the fact it had a real keyboard. I am cheap and would not consider paying more them 300 bucks for a nice phone off craigslist. I live in dominican republic and to my shock, SGN was being displayed in the store of "claro" phone company. At first, the phone intimidated me by it's huge size, but when i saw the screen lit up, my jaw dropped. Wow, i mean, wow. This phone is super slim, fast and has a brilliantly lit sharp screen, full of vibrant colors. I just could not get enough of this phone. I went back several times to the store, just to see the phone in the display window. I was almost ready to pay 700 bucks on ebay to order one from hong kong, but i saw an ad on local craigslist type page: samsung galaxy note (new) for 650 bucks. Seems like some guy got one and didn't know what to do with it. he didn't even know how to change the language into spanish. I offered him $560 (US-dollars) and got the phone from him in original box and plastic stickers. All I can say is, I can't seem to get my eyes off this phone. Its the most amazing phone I have ever had in my life. I don't think I can ever go back to a normal 4.3 inch screen phone again. go buy this phone, it will change your life.

3 years on the hd2? Wow that's crazy. I can't make it 6 months on one phone
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hey guy.
now i'll try to give you a feedback too
spending most of my time on the htc hd2, flashing around, i have to say it WAS the best phone i have ever had.
a couple of weeks ago my hd2 wasn't the old (there was a mistake) and i startetd to think about a new one.
my hd2 is now okay (repaired again) BUT the note, which i bought 3 weeks ago is amazing. the screen is wow, the size not too big, but big enough for watching movies or play a good round fifa 2000 (psx)
its a new age that will be opend for you .. its fast its big it must be yours.
if you have any detaild quastions ask. and i will answer it (or anybody else here in the forum) )
p.s. buy it !!

I had the HD2. Was my daily phone for over a year. My phone was the US T-Mobile version and even when i came back in the UK it was perfect. Runs on the 3g networks here, fully unlocked and hspl unlocked.
In the 8 months since being back in the UK I've had the HTC Sensation and the Galaxy S2. While great phones, i still couldn't say goodbye to the trusted HD2. No matter what, there was and always will be something about that phone. Even by todays standards it was that good. Then came the Note and it's the first device that exited me as the HD2 did. My HD2 has since been donated to a friend but he knows that if he doesn't look after it, I'm having it back. Hell, even the Pocketnow.com website has referred to the HD2 as the beast that just won't die. That's what made it a great phone, what still makes it a great phone.
Do i regret getting the Note? No. Not now, not ever.
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HTC HD2 was launched in November 2009, not 2008. I have mine since Dec 2009, makes 2 years on 23th of December
Great build quality, timeless design (HTC Titan is the only one I find as classy, it is truly HD2 sucessor) and nice screen for e-reading (I enjoy the low level of brightness it can acheive and the white tone, it doesn't strain my eyes). And, of course, all the epicness of waiting and trying beta builds of Android, WP and now ICS. It's just too damn fun.
But, since 2 years correspond to 10 years in geek time, I'm searching for a new phone to play with. Sensation XL has the perfect size to me, but it's just too damn ugly and has a low res screen for today's standards. What about Galaxy Note? The screen sharpness is amazing, I appreciate the S-Pen feature and 5.3" makes me drooll. But... I can't overcome the fact that quadcore phones with hdmi-out are just around the corner and that I hate touchwiz and Samsung over saturated and "dark" colors. Plus, I fear 5.3" is just a little to big to use as a phone.
If a stock ICS ROM becomes available, I might overlook Note's massive size and buy one 'till Christmas.

Is the Phone worth its money?

Hi guys,
Ive been actively looking for a phone for about one week now and in that time I browsed through thousands of sites and reviews and stuff for every possible phone ever.
Finally I ended up with the Droid Pro.
What was important to me is that the Phone was decently fast, had a QWERTZ keyboard and Andoid on-board.
From the first look I thought the Droid Pro perfectly fits these criteria - maybe despite the fact it has Android 2.2 instead of 2.3.
However before buying it I would like to ask you whether buying this phone would be a good idea or not. Are there any complains about it, any things you like or do not like at all, helpful things, useless things? Tell me how you feel about it, and tell me as much as you can.
It would help me a lot.
Many thanks to you guys!
Leo

threepointfive said:
Hi guys,
Ive been actively looking for a phone for about one week now and in that time I browsed through thousands of sites and reviews and stuff for every possible phone ever.
Finally I ended up with the Droid Pro.
What was important to me is that the Phone was decently fast, had a QWERTZ keyboard and Andoid on-board.
From the first look I thought the Droid Pro perfectly fits these criteria - maybe despite the fact it has Android 2.2 instead of 2.3.
However before buying it I would like to ask you whether buying this phone would be a good idea or not. Are there any complains about it, any things you like or do not like at all, helpful things, useless things? Tell me how you feel about it, and tell me as much as you can.
It would help me a lot.
Many thanks to you guys!
Leo
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What do you mean for the money? If the phone is less than $100 off contract then I'd say yes, otherwise I'd personally say no. It's not really a fast phone, but fast enough. The screen resolution is horrible, but all Android candy-bar qwerty's appear to the same issue.
I got one for my wife when it first came out and it was a huge improvement over BB for her. She loved it. Now is is starting to show her age. I loaded Apex custom rom on it and it has a few issues. Now I can't find a way to get it back to stock. haha, but that is my fault, not the fault of the phone

Well at this time the best price for this phone i could get was about 170€.
But Im surprised to hear the phone is slow, why that and what exactly do you mean by 'slow'?
Most of the newer phones often have a hardware which is even worse than the motorola's - 800Mhz and 256mb RAM is pretty standard, at least for the prices below 200€ - the motorola has specs that are pretty high for a phone I always thought.
In conclusion would that mean that any other phone with a 3,1" screen and the same specs is also slow?

threepointfive said:
Well at this time the best price for this phone i could get was about 170€.
But Im surprised to hear the phone is slow, why that and what exactly do you mean by 'slow'?
Most of the newer phones often have a hardware which is even worse than the motorola's - 800Mhz and 256mb RAM is pretty standard, at least for the prices below 200€ - the motorola has specs that are pretty high for a phone I always thought.
In conclusion would that mean that any other phone with a 3,1" screen and the same specs is also slow?
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I don't deal with candy bar qewrty's a lot so I don't have a lot to compare with, but Android can be a little hard on the system, so it can take some resources to run smoothly. However, that also means you can do a lot more with it, because you can get all the Android apps.
You're not going to get any more updates with the phone from Motorola, and I'm not sure how much the modding community cares about the phone. What other phones are you looking at?

Other alternatives would be the Sony Ericsson Xperia mini Pro (SK17i) - although Im a little concerned about it being too tiny.
Then there is the Samsung Galaxy Y Pro and the HTC Chacha, but what makes me a little sceptical about these is the fact that the keyboard takes a lot more space than the display.
I also considered buying a HTC Desire S or a Desire HD but that would be at least 200€, sadly ...

If it's under 100euro then get it, well I guess all german phone are european phone which are GSM-ready. The only annoying cons is the low resolution of the droid pro's screen, which makes pictures feel like low-quality but in reality aren't. (and low legacy status if that counts - if only you prefer a lil bit of "hacking" here and there ) Otherwise dont hesitate to get it.
Have you considered Moto Backflip ? (the Cliq/dext has the same specs but lacks flash) Milestone isn't that bad either 130mb memory sure is a problem but it has a big dev community standing behind/below xD
If you have friends in the US ask them for a craiglist's phone Mine got me one xD

Thanks guys,
I just bought a droid pro plus, although Im not sure there is much support for this phone here on xda-developers...

It's really the only option for a portrait qwerty.
Since ICS typing on touchscreen is easier. I've managed to adapt because of this.
The thing is with the XT610 is that Motorola make it hard to hack and being rarer community support is that much less.
A straight comparision to a GalaxyS1: very similar but the i9000 has loads more ROM options etc.
If I had to have a blackberry form factor then DroidPro is the only way to go... but unfortunately it could be better

Just tried gnote2

Hi all,
Just been in to my local car phone warehouse, they had stock in and let me play with the display model..
Super smooth and v responsive but I have a few things to ask..
1. Does anyone. Know if this phone is EE 4g ready? I find it unbelievable that a phone is on sale without info on this!!
2. Do people think the addition cost of the contract is worth it over the gs3 which currently has some impressive deals?
Any help is appreciated as I am planning on upgrading today to either of these... Or if anyone can convince me to wait till wp8 is released I'm willing to listen!!
Thanks

There both good phone in there own right its down to persanal preference. Size etc note 2 is better specs with pen. .if u wear skinny jeans its a nono

It's not 4g ready, and personally I prefer this phone over the S3. I have recently bought my wife the S3, it's a great phone, but the screen is too small for me. Plus note 2 has a stylus and the S3 doesn't.
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Got released in swedish stores today I just got one without even trying the display model out lol. Super happy
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I'm waiting on the store manager to see what he can do for me in terms of tarriff then I'll go finalise with him later today...
A little disappointed that it's not LTE ready for the uk I guess that means they will release a new version in a few weeks/month...
My other half has an s3 it's a great phone and realistically gn2 is only better for browsing and video use everything else is pretty much the same... I can't see know the pen will be of any use in say a months time when the novelty wears off...
And also there is chat on other threads about some versions not having all the features in the advert videos... Such as multi screen, Samsung are properly rubbish at launches this kind of stuff makes them look so amateur they have an awesome product line why not work on marketing and getting the little details right.?

Yep, Samsung are pathetic at product launches.

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talboy said:
Hi all,
Just been in to my local car phone warehouse, they had stock in and let me play with the display model..
Super smooth and v responsive but I have a few things to ask..
1. Does anyone. Know if this phone is EE 4g ready? I find it unbelievable that a phone is on sale without info on this!!
2. Do people think the addition cost of the contract is worth it over the gs3 which currently has some impressive deals?
Any help is appreciated as I am planning on upgrading today to either of these... Or if anyone can convince me to wait till wp8 is released I'm willing to listen!!
Thanks
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So went and got one anyway...
Handset is good, decent enough size to fit in the pocket, super responsive and the pen feels great, the extras they have added in for the are very useful also..
Build quality is usual Samsung, feels cheapish but still very sturdy and iv not had any real ability issues with either my sgs or sgs2 so assume this to be the same.
So there's no multi view in my rom which is ALIE so a little disappointed but I'm sure it will be easy to resolve once more people have the handset..
Doesn't seem to have the live recording feature either which I thought would be useful
Browser is very fast and all apps load pretty much instantly, but to be honest speed etc is the same as the s3 it's only better due to the extra included features...