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Is the galaxy apollo a spicia brother?

Hey guys, apologies in advance if I'm in the wrong place.
My gf is just about to upgrade her device and wants to go to a droid phone but doesn't want the extra cost to get a galaxy S, but she's determined to stay with a samsung device.
So, we checked out her options, and one offered by t-mo uk is the galaxy apollo. Now, I've never heard of that device, and its not listed here or wikipedia, but there are some reviews that say its running eclair and the model number i5801, which led me to this forum, thinking its a spicia variant(like how the galaxy s has the fascinate and so on)
So yeah, is the apollo an updated spicia or a cut down galaxy S or what ? And how comes no-one seems to be talking about the device. The reviews seem to indicate that it would have launched in the past couple of months but apparently to no great interest.
So yes... I figure that someone here will know what this device actually is and if there is anyone developing for it, or if its just a flash in the pan that isn't worth investing in.
Cheers guys, sorry for rambling!
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well it's better than the spica that it has a radio,
and lesser than the spica that it has a very less resolution, and the processor is slower.
a friend of mine just bought it and after using the spica i was not impressed with the screen clarity when compared to the spica, but a good value for money phone, considering it costs around 12,000 INR.
also it has the samsung's touchwiz which i personally hate ...
I would suggest the Acer Liquid, one hell of a phone if the budget permits, with a lot of devs working on the liquid.

munchy_cool said:
well it's better than the spica that it has a radio,
and lesser than the spica that it has a very less resolution, and the processor is slower.
a friend of mine just bought it and after using the spica i was not impressed with the screen clarity when compared to the spica, but a good value for money phone, considering it costs around 12,000 INR.
also it has the samsung's touchwiz which i personally hate ...
I would suggest the Acer Liquid, one hell of a phone if the budget permits, with a lot of devs working on the liquid.
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Ah, so its definitely not actually a Spicia device then... Anyone know if it is developed for at all ?
Don't get me started on exactly why she HAS to stay with a samsung device and HAS to stay on her current network. If I could get her a Spicia (i think they call it Portal here) then I would, but alas the choice is between Jet, Wave and Apollo. Since Jet and Wave are basically feature phones with pretensions, at least the Apollo gives her the app store, proper email and internet and well... all the reasons why droid is a good thing .

^ As of now I have not seen any development on the Apollo.

i have Sony X10, Galaxy S, and I5700
Please get Galaxy S, you won't regret it.
it's got one of the best touch screen (sesitivity and accuracy)
I got i5700 as a backup android for my GalaxyS and I can't stand the small screen and screen inacuracy,
worst is Sonyericsson X10.
it's a total garbage.

Atrix vs Galaxy S2

So I am switching to AT&T and I'm trying to decide whether the Atrix or the GS2 would be better. If I were to get the GS2 it would be the international version. The pricing and release date doesn't matter and all the accessories for the atrix doesn't matter for me.
TL;DR Which one do you prefer? Give a reason as to why you would want either one.
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Well that depends.
Spec wise the only thing the Moto has on top of the S2 appears to be resolution.
Everything else the S2 is far ahead, but it is also not available for purchase.

motorola typically these days has locked boot loaders so it makes it impossible to root.. that is a killer for me. there are all kinds of software that i use that needs root.
2nd nothing compares to the brightness especially in sun of the samsung super amoled screens.
but what did you expect to hear.. you are posting this on a samsung forum?

also if you are like me if you have an unlocked phone that att doesnt know the imei range.. you can stay on the 10 per month unlimited family data plan..
although the extra att charges for data (if you are not on family unlimited) is basically butt rape anyway as i never go over 200-300 meg per month

Well I have a Galaxy S Vibrant right now. I do love the screen and also the amouny of customization available but, I don't care for Samsung takinh forever on OTA updates and releasing the source code.
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Just an update on what Igkahn said:
The Atrix has actually already been rooted, but it is all signed and therefore no custom kernels are available right now and won't be for a while until someone figures it out.
That being said, I absolutely hate Motorola's Motoblur, and would choose the Galaxy S2 twenty times over the Atrix. The TouchWiz 4.0 on the Galaxy S2 also looks awesome.

I'm still tossing up between these 2 phones.. but in defence of the Atrix Tegra owns Exynos it would appear according to Anadtech.
Also I fear we're looking at some serious delays to the galaxy.. I don't think they'll be out until May earliest..

People need to stop using the anandtech benchmarks as any meaningful measuring stick. Constantly doing so just reeks of willful ignorance. The Atrix has the S2 beat since there is no release date in sight, but you can already get an Atrix at the store right now in the US. I'll be waiting til March for the S2 but if nothing shows up, I might get the Atrix instead.

Moto phones are a nightmare
Atrix will be locked up like every other Moto phone
if DEVs are unable to unlock it, then you are stuck using stock ROM forever
it might not affect regular users, but if you are a PRO user that want the best out of the phone, then it'd not be the phone of choice

Papi4baby said:
Well that depends.
Spec wise the only thing the Moto has on top of the S2 appears to be resolution.
Everything else the S2 is far ahead, but it is also not available for purchase.
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One word: Pentile..

There is a huge amount of misinformation in this thread. A truley staggering amount of massively misleading misinformation.
lgkahn said:
motorola typically these days has locked boot loaders so it makes it impossible to root.. that is a killer for me. there are all kinds of software that i use that needs root.
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This is not true. While Motorola do have locked bootloaders, the Atrix was rooted before it was released. Titanium backup e.t.c work fine without it.
gunigugu said:
I'm still tossing up between these 2 phones.. but in defence of the Atrix Tegra owns Exynos it would appear according to Anadtech
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Anadtech have said themselves that this is prerelease software on unfinished drivers. Let's wait and see final hardware / software before we make judgements. Also, there will be a variant of the SGSII with Tegra 2 inside (model number 19103)
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if DEVs are unable to unlock it, then you are stuck using stock ROM forevere
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Again, untrue. The Milestone and Droid X both have locked bootloaders that none one has cracked and both have custom ROMs, the only thing you can't change is the Kernel. Also the Atrix has a signed bootloader rather than an encrypted one, which improves the possibility of it being cracked (albeit a slim one)
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One word: Pentile..
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I presume you are talking about the Atrix having Pentile, not the SGSII? It is an annoying decision, IMHO the trade off of going Pentile is greater than the benefits of the higher resolution, so I wish they had put a little more cash into it. I case anyone doesn't know the SGSII has a Super AMOLED+ screen which doesn't use the pentile arrangement, hence the jump in screen size from 4" to 4.27"
A lot of posts in this thread are giving out false information, please do research before posting something as fact as people rely on these forums for reliable information when thinking about a purchase.

Galaxy S2 will have the Atrix 4g beat when the phone is released. Tegra2 devices are not yet fully flash supported right now according to some articles. Both phones will be good. I prefer Samsung because they have some kick ass hardware.

albie1937 said:
Galaxy S2 will have the Atrix 4g beat when the phone is released. Tegra2 devices are not yet fully flash supported right now according to some articles. Both phones will be good. I prefer Samsung because they have some kick ass hardware.
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Lets see.. I do hope so because I'm tossing up between the two devices even though I really want it now and can purchase the atrix already
I do fear though that as tegra is being used everywhere and also as the reference platform for Honycomb it will get all the special attention.

l0st.prophet said:
Anadtech have said themselves that this is prerelease software on unfinished drivers. Let's wait and see final hardware / software before we make judgements. Also, there will be a variant of the SGSII with Tegra 2 inside (model number 19103)
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True, but bear in mind they were talking about a March? release initially... but looking like April now.
How much work on drivers can they get done in that time? and if the hardware isn't finalised by now they are going to struggle to get this out before iPhone 5.
Oh and and i9103 would be the dream device, but I'm looking to buy ASAP... I can't keep waiting forever

It'll be SGS II for me,as long as there are no encryption/locking issues.
I have the fear the the signed/locked bootloader thingy on the Atrix will never be fully 'worked out',and i don't want my android experience limited even in the slightest way.
If Supercurio,Sztupy,Hardcore and friends can work their magic without limitations on the SGS II then the deal is sealed.Otherwise long life to my SGS.
PS: but will happen to SGS II exynos if tegra 2 becomes the de facto baseground for all future android itinerations?

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PS: but will happen to SGS II exynos if tegra 2 becomes the de facto baseground for all future android itinerations?
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Nothing. Why, what should happen?

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AllGamer said:
if DEVs are unable to unlock it, then you are stuck using stock ROM forevere
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Again, untrue. The Milestone and Droid X both have locked bootloaders that none one has cracked and both have custom ROMs, the only thing you can't change is the Kernel. Also the Atrix has a signed bootloader rather than an encrypted one, which improves the possibility of it being cracked (albeit a slim one)
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noooo, you're missing my point.
I've a Moto phone, and it's locked, but it's using a hacked ROM as well, so we all know it's possible to use Custom ROMs
but the problem is, with a locked bootloader, signed or whatever, it drives away developers and good cooks
and when the phone is not popular among the DEV community, chances are you'll most likely get stuck with whatever is out of the box
Another well known issue with Motorola
they put it plain and clear, they do not want to upgrade the phone OS
so if you got your phone with Froyo 2.2, don't expect to see GB 2.4 on it
Moto have a public schedule for OS phone upgrades https://supportforums.motorola.com/community/manager/softwareupgrades
so make sure your phone is listed, else...

if the galaxy 2 would have a 540 x 960 screen like the atrix then there'd be no doubt about it , such a shame that samsung chose to go with 480x800

Chad_Petree said:
if the galaxy 2 would have a 540 x 960 screen like the atrix then there'd be no doubt about it , such a shame that samsung chose to go with 480x800
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They didn't have any other choice. The SAMOLED+ screen has more subpixels than any other screen, and it is therefore impossible to place more pixels on a surface of the same size with the current manufacturing technology (which is most likely one of the reasons why they had to bump the size to 4.3" and 4.5" for the Infuse). They would have either had to make the screen even bigger (ugh, too big), or dropped the extra subpixels (sacrifice sharpness).
Anyway, it's bye bye to the pentile grid which is probably the best news as far as the screen goes

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They didn't have any other choice. The SAMOLED+ screen has more subpixels than any other screen, and it is therefore impossible to place more pixels on a surface of the same size with the current manufacturing technology (which is most likely one of the reasons why they had to bump the size to 4.3" and 4.5" for the Infuse). They would have either had to make the screen even bigger (ugh, too big), or dropped the extra subpixels (sacrifice sharpness).
Anyway, it's bye bye to the pentile grid which is probably the best news as far as the screen goes
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wow, u really convinced me with that! do u work for samsung ? xD

Can someone remind me why I should not get the SGS II #neveragain

I was a big hater for Samsung due to their broken GPS (some fixes help but it's still broken), Samsung's denial of the GPS problem then their "the next update will fix it" NOT, slow software updates and RFS file system. I truly was #neveragain.
But all in all, I do like the SGS (our devs have helped with that). Screen is amazing, good cpu/gpu, nice storage, good camera. So why would I not consider the SGS II for my next phone? It has a better and bigger screen, blazing quick processor, new gps radio, no RFS.
My mind is saying #neveragain, get the G2X but the specs make me want forgive sammy and wait for the SGSII.
Oh, HTC Sensation is out if it has a locked bootloader.

Good question. I absolutely LOVE my SGS except for the GPS. When I let people hold it, they are amazed at the weight and i love the speed, screen response etc. Just pretty PO'd about the GPS. I have a work around but it takes between 10-15 for it to wake the heck up!

SykesAT said:
I was a big hater for Samsung due to their broken GPS (some fixes help but it's still broken), Samsung's denial of the GPS problem then their "the next update will fix it" NOT, slow software updates and RFS file system. I truly was #neveragain.
But all in all, I do like the SGS (our devs have helped with that). Screen is amazing, good cpu/gpu, nice storage, good camera. So why would I not consider the SGS II for my next phone? It has a better and bigger screen, blazing quick processor, new gps radio, no RFS.
My mind is saying #neveragain, get the G2X but the specs make me want forgive sammy and wait for the SGSII.
Oh, HTC Sensation is out if it has a locked bootloader.
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If your mind says G2x than go for it. It does however have problems of its own at the moment. The common feeling around here these days is that Samsung seems to have learned from their mistake and are trying harder. Only time will tell for sure. If you dont wana wait for it get the G2x and hope the problems are cleared up soon. Worst comes to worst you can sell it and put that money towards the SGS2 when it finally comes out.

I started #NeverAgain
I would absolutely get the SGS2. The phone will be amazing.
All manufacturers have their issues, Samsung proved they would listen (they really did, trust me). They havent shown any signs of locking bootloaders and hopefully they continue improving with releasing source.
Timely updates is not their thing.
It also looks like an iPhone. Yuck (my opinion), only b/c everytime I look at it that's what I would think about.

get the international version so you can update faster.
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Well...
I don't know anymore after reading engadget's review. They said it's the best smartphone they've ever tested.

If engadget says that an they are hard to impress look at all of the reviews lately low an they said ever so I am most deff getting jus need one for tmo
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The galaxy s2 seems like it owns the g2x. In most reviews ive read like they say the battery life lasts 2 days with heavy use. That's ridiculous. And the GPS is fixed on the sgs2. Hell its even fixed on the galaxy s 4g which is what i have. And the screen looks amazing. 4.3 inch super amoled plus. keep in mind the g2x has many issues like major screen bleed and horrible battery drain in standby mode.
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Everyone cries about SGS being this and that, but it is one of the best phones on the market to date. Yes the GPS was flaky, but try the New G2x or any other of the phones and you will find lots of problems...... me ? I am waiting for the S-2 it will be better and it will be the hardware I am looking for, I really never cared about any of the operating systems...... they all suck one way or another. So, as long as the hardware is good, then Ill just load my own custon stuff and I am happy........ people whine too much and really expect perfection when there is not any anywhere in this world.............

I'm going to wait till the SGS II is out for a couple of months before I decide.
I jumped on the Vibrant on the first day it was released, but if I had known what I now know about the Vibrant, I'm not sure I would have gotten it.

So how will/is the build quality? Is it plastic, like ours, or more solid like htc phones?
Do we know how the processor compares to what will be in the htc Sensation or the Tegra 2's that are out?
duel core, 4.3" screen, 1gb of ram seem awesome, but is the phone able to actually effectively use all that power, or has the hardware been hindered by the software/code writing like our Vibrants were?
Thanks for any responses, just trying to get more info

Plastic, but apparently very good still. As mentioned before, Engadget thinks it might be the best smartphone ever.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review/

SGS2 =Beast!!! Don't let anyone else tell you otherwise.... It will.be the best phone on the market when it comes out.
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SGS II is my next phone!
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The SGS II looks like it will be the best phone on the market when it's released and I might just buy one even though my partial subsidy for a new phone likely won't have gone into effect when it's released.
I do think I'll wait a month or so before i take the plunge to see which of the Dev's pick one up and begin customizing ROM's for this phone. I like my Vibrant but that's in large part due to Sombionix, Eugene and Birgertime (to name a few) who have taken their time to brew up ROM's that make the Vibrant perform at or near it's full ability. Without them and the other Dev's I'd like this phone a LOT less...

i'll definitely consider the sgs2, but will wait and see how/when the release happens in the us first. i was unhappy about samsung's lack of updates, but overall i don't think a new phone has come out that is good enough to warrant me ditching my vibrant. sgs2 may be enough of a tech leap forward.

Mannymal said:
Plastic, but apparently very good still. As mentioned before, Engadget thinks it might be the best smartphone ever.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/04/28/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-review/
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thanks for the response. good read. so samsung got rid of the RFS file system?

My plan: wait until a different SGSII hits each carrier, considering a different SGS hit each major (and minor) carrier the first time around. Wait a solid two months while monitoring the XDA forums. Determine which SGSII on which carrier has the most enthusiastic support from the developer community.
Purchase accordingly.
Because **** AT&T-Mobile. #noloyalty

willentrekin said:
My plan: wait until a different SGSII hits each carrier, considering a different SGS hit each major (and minor) carrier the first time around. Wait a solid two months while monitoring the XDA forums. Determine which SGSII on which carrier has the most enthusiastic support from the developer community.
Purchase accordingly.
Because **** AT&T-Mobile. #noloyalty
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that's part of my plan. i want to wait and see if they do the same dumb fragmentation thing with the us carriers or if we get a uniform release. if it's fragmented, i will see if i can get an international and if it works on tmob.

Hell yeah.
I'm getting one as soon as price of one (new or used) is under $500. My 1.5Ghz Vibrant is fast enough for the time being.

Ok I need yall help badly thinking of returning the evo3d for SGS2

Ok I purchased the evo3d on launch day, but I am not satisfied with it at all, now my disclaimer I HATE SAMSUNG but it was due to the old samsung phones A460, A600, A660. The Sprint epic had so many problems that i only had it for 4 days then returned it. I said a long time ago I would never buy a samsung phone again. Well I think i might have lied. Im seriously am thinking of buying the new Sprint within aka SGS2 with it launches in aug. I have been a HTC user for 8 years since the 6600 but Im so dissatisfied in the performance of the evo3d and htc with its locked bootloaders. Now the one thing I might have to give up is sense I will miss it but Im hearing good things about this exynos chip on the sgs2. I need someone to assure me that the problems with the epic will not be in the sgs2 like micro sd problems or black screen of death or bluetooth dropping in and out or the major one GPS issues. I have to make up my mind in the next 48 hours. Can any one really offer some real information to help my situation. I dont need fanboy help, I need real input. I told myself I wouldnt come to the dark side but Vader is calling me.

Sound like me man LOL.... Only thing is, there will be no exynos CPU in the US versions....been confirmed in the fcc filings. Now that could change I suppose. But as of now, they will have tegra 2 chips
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HTC will unlock its bootloaders in September. Yesterday I got in a cloudburst, my phone got really wet and behaves strangely. I will buy an evo 3d if my sgs2 dies. I really do miss sense a lot.I think in the end software experience is more important than pure raw hardware power.
Btw I had a samsung non-smartphone before and I hated it and said to myself I would never buy a samsung again but the sgs2 is a very good phone though even though I still prefer sense

lol. you guys in the u.s. deserve better man...get the gs2...its fanfuckintastic...
sent from my galaxy S2.

Haven't had any issues with gps, bluetooth, or black screens of death so I think you might like it lol
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Haha, been through the 'never samsung again' phase too (i7500) but the i9100 really is a wonderful phone and I'm glad I didn't buy the evo3d, which I also considered for some time...
Ps: I went through the 'never htc again' after the infamous missing 2d/3d drivers of the Kaiser.
Lesson to be learned: we're all these corporations' biatches. Buy the phone ;p
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coincoinlapin said:
Haha, been through the 'never samsung again' phase too (i7500) but the i9100 really is a wonderful phone and I'm glad I didn't buy the evo3d, which I also considered for some time...
Ps: I went through the 'never htc again' after the infamous missing 2d/3d drivers of the Kaiser.
Lesson to be learned: we're all these corporations' biatches. Buy the phone ;p
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Lmao @ drivers. I remember that ****. That phones video performance was horrible. Soon as the lights git dim, u could forget about using the camera for video or stills lol
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randy2 said:
Ok I purchased the evo3d on launch day, but I am not satisfied with it at all, now my disclaimer I HATE SAMSUNG but it was due to the old samsung phones A460, A600, A660. The Sprint epic had so many problems that i only had it for 4 days then returned it. I said a long time ago I would never buy a samsung phone again. Well I think i might have lied. Im seriously am thinking of buying the new Sprint within aka SGS2 with it launches in aug. I have been a HTC user for 8 years since the 6600 but Im so dissatisfied in the performance of the evo3d and htc with its locked bootloaders. Now the one thing I might have to give up is sense I will miss it but Im hearing good things about this exynos chip on the sgs2. I need someone to assure me that the problems with the epic will not be in the sgs2 like micro sd problems or black screen of death or bluetooth dropping in and out or the major one GPS issues. I have to make up my mind in the next 48 hours. Can any one really offer some real information to help my situation. I dont need fanboy help, I need real input. I told myself I wouldnt come to the dark side but Vader is calling me.
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You have to look at this way. Every comment on this board is about the international SGS2 (GT-i9100). The original SGS1 (GT-i9000) didn't have anywhere near the problems of the basterdized versions that had pretty drastic hardware and software changes as demanded by the four U.S. carriers. The GT-i9000 was updated to 2.3.4 about two weeks ago and received regular updates along the way. Most of which were ignored by the U.S. carriers pissing people off who then blamed Samsung.
Sprint may have ordered a bunch of changes to the SGS2 for their version. From the leaked pics the back of the phone is different, the corners look rounder, and it appears to be thicker. Regadless, it's a CDMA/Wi-Max phone so it'll have little in common with the GSM international version. You'll be dependent on Sprint for updates, features of the international version may be gone or replaced, and you won't be able to flash international ROMs.
So until the phone's actually out, it's hard to say how much Sprint molestation was done to it. The fundamentals will be solid like the display, processor, and camera. But things like call quality, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, and GPS may be different because of the different radio(s).
It could be another Epic or Sprint could leave the phone basically alone except for what had to be changed to support CDMA/Wi-Max. Until it's out, no one will know.

I returned my Evo 3d 2 days ago. The next day I hear that the devs have gotten s-off. Oh well, anyway, I am going to wait till the Within comes out. And see how it is. Then if I don't like it, I will go back to the 3d, or some other phone. Just hope it comes out soon. Went back to a Palm pre, and it is killing me!

E3d...falls short compared to expectations. You'll know in 10 minutes its no contest.
I use Launcher Pro...makes it even faster.
Anyone have hands on with performances on these two different chips? Wouldn't imagine you'd detect much on this device?

Thanks for everyones feedback but if the u.s version is tegra 2 then i might keep my evo3d I might have to sell my evo3d on craigslist and wait past my 30 days, which is up Saturday and Im really disappointed in the evo3d but im so so so scared of a samsung device although the more i see it the more I might make the jump. decisions decisions. From all of my research the tegra 2 is the least of the three,(exynos,msm8660,tegra 2) all 1.2's can anyone speak on the chips in the non-exynos sgs2's

If you like rooting and Custom Roms and are a general XDA user i'd never buy a completely new phone when you dont know anything about it and if its gonna have root and stuff^^
I havent had the evo3d in hands because its not out in my country but i tested the SGS2 and the Sensation alot. So i have to emphasize this is my PERSONAL opinion
I have a DesireHD. I love it. It has gotten some bad reviews in the beginning when it first came out especially about battery life. Now with custom roms based on 2.3.3 it lasts me 2days and the UI is 100% smooth. But the bad reviews still stick i think...
To come to your decision, all 3 phones (sgs2, evo3d, sensation) are very new and still have problems. The sensation looks very nice but the one i tested was quite laggy. Sense 3d ran better on my DHD than on the sensation... I tried it side by side in the store, and still has locked bootloader - but HTC will unlock it so in a few months the Sensation maybe has awesome custom roms. Its too early to tell.
SGS2, nice phone hardware wise, but most ugly and useless software that i tried based on Android. When you're used to sense it just gives you nothing And when you're used to beautiful clear shiny SLCD screens you'll maybe have some problems with the OLED from the sgs2. The model i had in hand looked aweful compared to my DHD, the colors just arent right. There may be better ones but for me white white is much more important than black black. If that makes sense^^
About the chip: The sgs2 exynox is a powerful chip. But software does not really support it atm. For example Gameloft games. At least tegra2 has some cool games... I prefer qualcomm chip based phones - there i know i'll have compatibility.
So in my opinion the new dualcore phones do not have ANY advantage over singlecore 1ghz phones ATM (ok hdmi out is nice to have ). Who knows what will be in half a year when the software is better for the dualcore babies. But now? But these are just my thoughts.
I guess SGS2 will have good custom software faster than any other phone because of its popularity. If you can find one with a good screen and nice colors i guess go for it

clouds5 said:
If you like rooting and Custom Roms and are a general XDA user i'd never buy a completely new phone when you dont know anything about it and if its gonna have root and stuff^^
I havent had the evo3d in hands because its not out in my country but i tested the SGS2 and the Sensation alot. So i have to emphasize this is my PERSONAL opinion
I have a DesireHD. I love it. It has gotten some bad reviews in the beginning when it first came out especially about battery life. Now with custom roms based on 2.3.3 it lasts me 2days and the UI is 100% smooth. But the bad reviews still stick i think...
To come to your decision, all 3 phones (sgs2, evo3d, sensation) are very new and still have problems. The sensation looks very nice but the one i tested was quite laggy. Sense 3d ran better on my DHD than on the sensation... I tried it side by side in the store, and still has locked bootloader - but HTC will unlock it so in a few months the Sensation maybe has awesome custom roms. Its too early to tell.
SGS2, nice phone hardware wise, but most ugly and useless software that i tried based on Android. When you're used to sense it just gives you nothing And when you're used to beautiful clear shiny SLCD screens you'll maybe have some problems with the OLED from the sgs2. The model i had in hand looked aweful compared to my DHD, the colors just arent right. There may be better ones but for me white white is much more important than black black. If that makes sense^^
About the chip: The sgs2 exynox is a powerful chip. But software does not really support it atm. For example Gameloft games. At least tegra2 has some cool games... I prefer qualcomm chip based phones - there i know i'll have compatibility.
So in my opinion the new dualcore phones do not have ANY advantage over singlecore 1ghz phones ATM (ok hdmi out is nice to have ). Who knows what will be in half a year when the software is better for the dualcore babies. But now? But these are just my thoughts.
I guess SGS2 will have good custom software faster than any other phone because of its popularity. If you can find one with a good screen and nice colors i guess go for it
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Try and play a 1080p movie in a Single core 1ghz phone,then you will see the difference ..
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Try and play a 1080p movie in a Single core 1ghz phone,then you will see the difference ..
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You mean 1080p Adobe Flash video?
What I don't like about LCD is that it can't display black, but OLED can display all colors.

Any heavy complex multitasking condition on a device proves the value of dual core.

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Sound like me man LOL.... Only thing is, there will be no exynos CPU in the US versions....been confirmed in the fcc filings. Now that could change I suppose. But as of now, they will have tegra 2 chips
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I believe you are refering to this article: http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/06/another-galaxy-s-ii-passes-through-the-fcc-possibly-rockin-a-t/ (or another article on a different site).
If you look at the model number closely, you will see that the Tegra 2 phone that you are talking about has the model number GT-I9103. This is not the US galaxy SII. It is the Galaxy Z, the more "affordable little brother." (http://www.engadget.com/2011/07/01/samsung-galaxy-z-galaxy-s-iis-affordable-little-brother-now/).
I'm not confirming that the US varieties of the SGSII will not have Tegra 2s, but I'm saying that there was no confirmations of US SGSIIs having Tegra 2s in the first place.
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Sprint may have ordered a bunch of changes to the SGS2 for their version. From the leaked pics the back of the phone is different, the corners look rounder, and it appears to be thicker.
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From the Epic forums, some people are saying that the leaked picture wasn't the Galaxy SII (within), but it is the Sprint's version of the Infuse. But I have no sources for this one.
Anyways, personally, I recommend that you hold out until the Galaxy SII for Sprint comes out. On paper, the SGSII beats the Evo 3D in almost every spec criteria. HTC has better support and more timely updates though.
But I'm waiting for the Within.

after galaxy note you will buy any Samsung mobile phone?

after galaxy note you will buy any Samsung mobile phone?

Seeing how the note is my third Sammy, probably. Not.a fan of Samsung's plastic choices but hardware wise, I like them.

depends on whats available at the time

My last Samsung here. The updates are so slow. It is like running Gingerbread back from the 1920s. There is no excitement with my device. I know some of you are iPhone haters but at least they can update and release new features in one day. Google need to smack Samsung down a little.

Yes I will - Note II / Note Plus

Samsung has always managed to appeal to my design sense and build pretty neat hardware into their phones. I've had a D900, U600, (LG KU990 in between here) Omnia II, SGS and now the Note. The D900 was a fantastic looking, robust little phone which I still have, and the U600 was pretty much the same but with a redesign and a spec bump so I had that as well. Omnia II was my first taste of smartphones and I loved it. Once Android took off in a big way, I hopped on and haven't been disappointed since.
The Note is great. Beautiful screen, massive battery and runs like butter. The new HTC OneX looks cool and comes pretty close to ticking all my boxes but the S-Pen was the clincher. I scribble faster than I can type and I have a screen of S-Memos to remind me about everything from shopping lists to memos to breathing in and out.
The delays on ICS have been a downer but GB still runs great and as a device, still goes on well. Samsung is making up for it by giving us a premium suite of features which weren't even on the radar when I bought the device so I'm not going to complain. So... Note 2? Yes please.

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My last Samsung here. The updates are so slow. It is like running Gingerbread back from the 1920s. There is no excitement with my device. I know some of you are iPhone haters but at least they can update and release new features in one day. Google need to smack Samsung down a little.
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Hehe, and most things apples patches do is stop jailbreak..
Not to big things in the small ones they send out, and 4s still have crappy battery even if they say they working on it..
Not a iPhone hater here tho, gf have one and even my daughter as they are very simple and child friendly..
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My last Samsung here. The updates are so slow. It is like running Gingerbread back from the 1920s. There is no excitement with my device. I know some of you are iPhone haters but at least they can update and release new features in one day. Google need to smack Samsung down a little.
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Samsung is great compared to Dell. The Note has only been out 5-6 months. Took Dell over a year to update the Streak5 from 1.5 to 1.6 (Froyo). I don't think there has been a GB update for Dell Streak5. If Sammy is faster than a year, they're doing great! Which other Android manufacturer updates more quickly?
Besides, GB is working quite well IMHO. And the Note is well made and everything seems to work! I'm in for the next round.
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4Nde said:
My last Samsung here. The updates are so slow. It is like running Gingerbread back from the 1920s. There is no excitement with my device. I know some of you are iPhone haters but at least they can update and release new features in one day. Google need to smack Samsung down a little.
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Of course this is your personal opinion and it´s absolutely okay to think like this...but people have to face the fact, that ICS isn´t THE invention of the century, it is more like a small update that makes it possible to install the apex launcher (and some small more stuff ). And beside this, I do not know any manufacturer that provides faster updates to their users (ignoring apple for a moment).
The Note as well as the S2 are two MONSTERS of devices! An incredible camera, snappy/fast/smooth, resistant and even with GB they are still the headliners on the market. Ignoring some apps, there´s nothing to miss atm, it is more about nerdy minds to always be on the newest trip. And: We bought a GB device, so they don´t owe us anything.
BTW: Just check the S2 user com...e.g. the quality of the cam got worse with ICS...and as a matter of fact I do not know ANY smartphone with ICS that beats the S2/Note cam quality atm. I want a device that is WORKING and that delivers some functions which I can really USE within the day. And that´s exactely what samsung delivers imao...
So in my case: Yes, i will stay with samsung...

after my current note, next one will be maybe galaxy s3, if it wont give me satisfaction,will be waiting for note 2 : )

Samsung are making good handsets lately,but I have learnt one important lesson here with my first Samsung Phone ever:Get your bread direct from the Bakery !!.
Meaning,it is always a wise decision to get your phone from a dedicated manufavturer,not from some company who beeing busy in making washing machines,TVs cameras etc..have no time left to support certain devices.

last three devices are all samsung. I have htc work phone which i hate.
I want a phone that works and will last long enough for me to sell on fleabay. I couldnt care less regarding the operating system i.e GB and ics, aint the end of the world at all,
Take a look at Asus and the transformer, they update faster than anyone great huh, hmmm shame about the hardware. As they say you can polish a turd but its still a turd.
Give me solid hardware at a good price, and thats what samsung nail every time

Bring on note2... Can't wait til October... Bring it...
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And whats wrong with HD2,I have been using it for the last 3 years now and is still working like a Swiss watch,I have flashed at different times many OSs on it,just changed back to WM from Miui's ICS,sorry if I offend anyone here but being a 78 years old veteran I bear a special affection at my heart for the WM.
Damn,my wife's Galaxy Tab 10.1 3G is still on Honeycomb 3,1 while my son's have been updated to 3,2 months ago!! and when side by side you can easily observe how inferior the former is in comparison.

I had a couple of Htc smartphones, then an S2, and now the Note. Hated the Htc's, loved the S2, and like the Note even more. So my next phone will probably be the Note 2, unless somebody comes up with something like the Note but better.
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Meh...maybe...
The thing is, the Note is a beautiful phone and i would have bought it no matter what company made it. This is my first sammy phone and it could be the first of many or the last one. As long as the community on xda is strong and the phone itself is amazing i couldn't care less about the company. I have to say though, Samsung has come pretty dam far in the last few years, its unbelievable.

For me, it really depends on how Samsung handles this whole broken-kernels-that-destroy-eMMC fiasco.
If Samsung remains silent on the issue, the Note will likely be my last Samsung device. If another broken kernel manages to get through testing and is officially released (see the SHW-M250S/K/L sources), the Note is guaranteed to be my last Samsung device.
While I don't like their hardware design, nor do I like their historical track record, Sony's recent history of developer support has been highly commendable, and if Samsung keeps blowing it with regards to their total noncooperation with developers, I'll be making the jump with my next device.

Yes, and to be more specific, i will wait for Note 2. I was a HTC fan but, lately, it did not impress me. HTC ONE x , because it uses tegra 3, it is a flop, in my opinion, inefficent and power hungry CPU, no were near Exinox refinament. Samsung offers something witch is crucial for me.. good low light video camera (no ghosting) and USB OTG.

Samsung make good phones overall. Nobody makes a perfect device. Just levels of tolerances that one accepts. I have had 2 other Samsung phones and they were excellent, really excellent. Tbh whilst I want ICS I couldn't care that much since ginger bread is stable. And I prefer stable over everything else.

I probably won't be getting another phone until my Note dies - I love it that much. If Sammy are still top of the heap by then I will probably go the Sammy route again.
I also don't really understand the whole 'Samsung lied to us stuff'. I've struggled to find anything from Samsung that said they'd deliver ICS on the Note by the end of Q1 2012, everything I've found is hearsay or relating to Samsung devices generally (i.e. We'll start rolling out ICS updates in Q1.)
Well they haven't lied. The SGS2, the phone with the largest user-base was updated first... And the phone with all the extra complications of a screen approx four times the size and with a stylus, etc has been delayed. Not a surprise to me - only to those who bought a device with one OS version thinking it would have another IMMEDIATELY!
Its not even like ICS is much better... I flashed ICS Stunner and within a week I was back on stock GB. ICS offers a few good touches (bookmark sync, slightly better UI performance, data usage limits, face unlock (which p***ed me off mo end), etc) but basically its still Android and we've already got that.