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ok well i know this soudns like a dumb question.. but...
if i store programs on my touch, like opera, slingplayer mobile, touch settings ETC, will that eat up my RAM. So like will my phone run slower?? Or does it come with BUilt in RAM for storage, and then an extra 128 RAM for like running apps?? If its using the same ram... I would much much rather, store all my progs on a memory card accept for the basics? anyone>?
if this is true, can i also delete all the sprint bloat ware... sprint music, video, on demand, software store. If it is taking up storage space, that is ok, but if its take up speed space i do not want that to happen?
Hi,
No - your programs are in storage memory. They don't eat ram (..or make your device any slower) unless you actually run them.
The touch has plenty of storage memory - so you're fine installing most things on here...
-mark
great! lol, it sounded dumb, but i was not sure. My next question is.. what kind of program memory does it have, like running speed, not storage... Also can i delte some start up stuff. IDK if sprint has some bloatware that i dont use running in the background, can i delete it off my phone? Also can i delete the sprint apps off my phone? Anything to do this, so i will have more program memory and storage memory.
My goal... Store on phone...
Opera Mobile
Slingplayer Mobile
Touch Settings
Resco
Few Other apps
Pictures...
on 8 GB Micro SD
Music and Video
anyone??? help please lol
look in \windows\startup
thats programs that autostart
if you remove the shortcuts they will not start
another thing is that it may not help speed at all
in windows having more memory help speed because then windows
dont have to swap to the harddisk
but with windows mobile there is no swap
if a program dont have enough mem it will not start it will not just run slower
vogue and elf have rather slow cpu's that could be the root of your problem
vogue has a 400 mhz processor? That is just as fast as mogul...
how about i might have posted earlier, deleting some sprint apps. On demand, Sprint Music, SPrint Tv. Can you delete those. I am going to customize my cube, and i dont want sprints garbage to be on my phone when i will never even use it...? Anyone??
Hello,
I'm user of elf (MDA Touch) and I use Onyx 3.0 ROM. When I launch Opera it's ok, but when I use it for about 15 minutes it shows a warning message, that says „the phone is low in storage memory“ or something (i think it means low RAM?). How to solve this issue?
Thanks
I too have opera 9.5. I use both the opera browser, as well as the IE browser (interchangeably). From what I see, whenever you surf web pages that has a lot of content (especially alot of images), the phone stores the data, even after closing the web pages. What I have to constantly keep doing is, delete the history, cookies & cache to free up the space, which eliminates the low memory messages, until the memory gets full again. It seems like after 4 to 5 large web pages, then I get the message of low memory. I sometimes get a critical low message (LOL).
For me, this is a big pain in the butt, and unfortunatly, I don't know any ways around it. Maybe there is a software that can monitor, and maintain a certain amount of space, to prevent this problem from happening; maybe we can start there.
Also maybe someone else could chime in with a solution.
i've seen opera running on both Elf and Elfin... it works without a glitch on the Elfin
but problems appear when i use it on Elf... same memory problems :S
we just need a good application that can free up (a loooott) of RAM...
As far as I have understood it's mainly the cache that eats up your memory. I found a way to store Opera cache on the storage card (well, I found a guide on the internet). It worked great untill I had a couple of tabs open (I guess tabs are stored in phone memory). But it helped a lot storing the cache on the storage card.
Instructions can be found here: http://www.wmexperts.com/articles/howto/how_to_move_the_cache_in_opera.html
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Instructions can be found here: http://www.wmexperts.com/articles/howto/how_to_move_the_cache_in_opera.html
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naah... tried it... same Low memory problem...
Yes! We need something that could monitor, and delete (if selected) the cache files on the fly (automatically) to maintain a certain amount of memory.
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Yes! We need something that could monitor, and delete (if selected) the cache files on the fly (automatically) to maintain a certain amount of memory.
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Moving cache to SD won't help much. Main problem is that Opera keeps thumbnail of page and it's full view in RAM. Wait for release of Fennec (Firefox Mobile), maybe it will work better.
Your total solution
I just found this on a thread.
www.skyfire.com
This thing even plays youtube videos directly.
I can play flash games on this browser too
DubThroatflex said:
Hello,
I'm user of elf (MDA Touch) and I use Onyx 3.0 ROM. When I launch Opera it's ok, but when I use it for about 15 minutes it shows a warning message, that says „the phone is low in storage memory“ or something (i think it means low RAM?). How to solve this issue?
Thanks
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try the Onyx Jr. you will get more memory...
dun use opera 9, use Esmertec Java with Opera Mini....
you will never turn back....lol..
got the same problem
Hello Folks,
I've been using my Vogue to do some downloads and have noticed that I cannot download anything much larger than 80MB, even if I have a 2GB SD card and plenty of storage space left. Yesterday I tried to download a file of about 100MB, it appeared to have downloaded to the end, but I got a disk full error message and the file was essentially lost. When I checked my internal memory before clicking the "disk full" dialog box, it was indeed full. However I wasn't able to identify where the file was. I always setup my downloads to go to the storage card.
Is this device limited to download chunks that can fit into its system memory or part of it? In other words, is it possible to force saving files directly onto the storage card instead of system memory like it seems to be doing now? Is this a limitation of the browser (Opera 8.65), of the operating system (WM 6.1) or is this a limitation of the hardware itself (the CDMA version of the HTC Touch, aka the Vogue)?
TIA for your responses!
Don't know. I have not tried downloading a file larger than 10M before. I don't have a data plan plan so anything that I need to download I was my laptop. I seems like downloading a 100M file would be painfully slow using your phone.
I do not think there is a limit. I have DLed 350mb phone sized movies a few times.
I do think your problem is related to the browser? When I try to DL a file off the net through IE it does not ask me where I would like to save the file, (it used to in 6.1, but no longer does in 6.5) and it automatically DLs to My Documents on the phones internal memory. This woul mean I could not DL a file larger then my remaining space that's available. I use Opera Mobile 10 now and it allows me to select my storage card as DL location.
it seems to me that it cache's the file on the phone then copies to the sdcard, i think there is a registry setting somewhere to make it cache it to the sdcard...i would check here at xda or at ppcgeeks.com
jadesse: being on dial-up, that is painfully slow! Getting the unlimited mobile browser was exactly the idea, because until recently there were no other options but dial-up where I live. Even at the edge of the cell, at 300Kb/s to 600Kb/s, my speeds are 5-10 times faster than dial-up... An our new ADSL, that we just got in the area after a 10 year wait, maxes out at 3.5 Mb/s...
skydirt: OK - so if IIUC, you've been able to download 350MB files in one shot, using Opera 10, without getting 'disk full' issues? On the Vogue?
Opera 8.65 does]/i] let me select the storage card as a location. That's what I've been doing all along. I just can't download files of the 100MB or around size or larger. It's as if it was downloading on internal memory then at the end of the download transfering (writing) it to the storage card.
How is Opera 10? Is it as good as Opera 10 for the desktop? Is it stylus friendly? Is it a free upgrade? (never mind, I see it's a beta - it will expire...)
jamezelle: could you be more specific? I've looked into it and there are some edits for temporary IE files location, which I will try. However, this is only applicable to IE... I will test both this tweak on IE and see whether Opera Mobile has some similar setting... Thanks for the tip!
Thanks for all your responses, folks, it's much appreciated!
Success
I just tried a large (98MB) download and worked fine... It took forever to finalize at the end of the download, but it worked!
I used the settings explained here
jamezelle, thanks again for steering me the right way!
Now does anyone know how to make Rapidshare work from Opera Mobile? I know, it's an incredibly frustrating site even under the best conditions, who knows why so may people put up with it and actually use it to upload files, but the fact is, as horrible as it is, it's still the most popular, it would be nice if it could be made to work with Opera Mobile...
Old faithful said:
I just tried a large (98MB) download and worked fine... It took forever to finalize at the end of the download, but it worked!
I used the settings explained here
jamezelle, thanks again for steering me the right way!
Now does anyone know how to make Rapidshare work from Opera Mobile? I know, it's an incredibly frustrating site even under the best conditions, who knows why so may people put up with it and actually use it to upload files, but the fact is, as horrible as it is, it's still the most popular, it would be nice if it could be made to work with Opera Mobile...
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Rapidshare works on Opera Mobile 9.5 and above in my own experience. As for 8.65, never used it so I wouldn't know how to get it to work. If anything, just get your hands on NFSFAN's custom Opera build (It's in his thread). Alternatively, you can try out the Opera Mobile 10 Beta (link).
I have stock ROM on my T-Mobile HD2.
Many softwares crash/hang-up with "out-of-memory" error, eg. Xn-View, Need for Speed, Kinoma Play.
This is strange..my HD used to run these without any problems. And HD2 is supposed to have more RAM and faster processor.
Really frustrated. Please help
Do you have many apps installed to your device?
When installing you get the option of device or storage card, maybe uninstall and reinstall to storage card?
Also, be sure to check out CleanRAM, that may help?
Funny to hear similar probs: I moved opera-cache, album-cache, photos to SD-Card, have 170 MB free of prog-mem and 50 MB free of data-mem and still get once in a while "not enough memory, cannot allocate mapBuf" with my aviation-navi-software (which works without this problem on my Touch HD for 2 years). With SK Tools background free RAM and the other services it happens less frequently but it still happens.
Looks as if WM 6.5 does not know where to put app-data into RAM
??????????????????
Are you using Opera Mobile 10?
With heave loaded opera mobile 10, i can't start camera at once.. but the RAM still showing over 100mb of spaces :O shame...
opera mobile is the problem for me, though i installed it to sd card today and it hasnt happened so far
I got the same Out of Memory for My Camera in my smaberg's Touch X cooked rom..
I have SEVEN push email running in the background.. it runs fine in stock..
I think it's because of the 2.10 driver things?
wondering if anyone have a solution for this?
Any solution yet?
Still have no good solution..
It seems that Opera 9 saves downloads to a folder on the phone memory, but it doesn't always delete them when you tell opera to do so in the downloads menu tab.
It saves them too: \My Device\Windows\opera9\profile\download
When I deleated most of the files there it released over 110 MB of space in the device storage.
I wonder where other programs save similar files?
Sam.
i have the same problem but guys, ram isnt rom. memory here means RAM and has nothing to do with phone storage nor sd storage
Memory usage
I do also have problems with "out of memory" errors.
I have tried to do an analyze of my HD2 with MemMaid to figure out where all the memory is used up in my device.
First of all, I have moved all cashes to the memory card and cleaned up the cashes in the phone memory, as been described well in other threads.
I have about 35 applications installed and most of them on the memory card.
This is what I have found out:
Device memory:
337Mb available , 151Mb used , 185MB free (45% used)
Device storage:
180Mb available , 164Mb used , 16Mb free (91% used)
Storage card:
16Gb available , 8Gb used , 8Gb free (50% used)
Looking at directories to see where most files are stored, windows is by far the biggest folder in my device.
The windows directory is 442Mb (!)
where 10470 files makes a total of 420Mb and other folders like programs are 22Mb.
- This is where I suspect I do have a problem, is it really normal that windows folder do have so many files? For example, there are 3017 _manila files, there are also over 3000 bmp,gif,png files.
- I have a thought that I might have inherrited a lot of files from my old TyTnII when I started up the new HD2 and synchronized it via "Microsoft My Phone".
How does it look for other HD2 users with the memory usage?
Regards
Did you save your picture on device memory? How many song did u put on device memory (ringtone for example)?
All those are stored on the memory card.
Opra cash, Youtube, ring tones, music, photos, are all on the memory card.
Regards
I have started to get this 'out of memory message' after in installed opera 10 mobile.
I dont know how to move the cache to the memory card like you could in opera 9.
I already often have a "out of memory" while trying to turn on my camera.
And... I have found a way to turn it back on without restarting : use HTAddicts CleanRAM !
Launch it, it will clean your ram (different profiles are available) and then the camera will start up.
Direct download HERE
I'm pretty sure this message is caused by one of three things:
1. Windows Mobile (even 6.5) still has a 32 process limit
2. Some older programs possibly including the camera software may not be aware of more than 32 or 64gb of memory, so even though there is tons left it can't use it.
3. There is also a cache of memory used by drivers.
Sam2k said:
It seems that Opera 9 saves downloads to a folder on the phone memory, but it doesn't always delete them when you tell opera to do so in the downloads menu tab.
It saves them too: \My Device\Windows\opera9\profile\download
When I deleated most of the files there it released over 110 MB of space in the device storage.
I wonder where other programs save similar files?
Sam.
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My thanks Sam, I had this memory problem for a while again thanks for the fix
mem error
Sam2k said:
It seems that Opera 9 saves downloads to a folder on the phone memory, but it doesn't always delete them when you tell opera to do so in the downloads menu tab.
It saves them too: \My Device\Windows\opera9\profile\download
When I deleated most of the files there it released over 110 MB of space in the device storage.
I wonder where other programs save similar files?
Sam.
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my hd2 has what may be a similar issue with memory, after official 3.14 install and doing registry tweaks involving memory and graphics settings, mine is "out of memory" on Opera 9.7 all the time here within the past 2 weeks. I've gone into opera settings and deleted cache and history, no results. I can get memory warning with only 1 tab open. Any cabs I've added are on the memory card not the phone memory. I tried to follow this path to delete files, mine doesn't show the "download" file. Am trying to move Opera over to the card. I don't have any of the original games or movies on card or phone. Didn't want or need them. Other tips, suggestions?
Maybe to much programms are (in background) open?
Please close with taskmanager and try again.
btw. witch Stock rom, radio version and spl version do you have?
I've searched the forums but cant find an answer to this.
Ok, so imagine im surfing the internet on opera 9.7, then i get bored so i close opera properly. my phone then for the next 2 minutes or so lags painfully. i go into taskmanager and look at proccesses and 'opera9.exe' is taking up 97% of the CPU. i dont know why, i said i had closed it
I havent fiddled with opera at all, other than moving the cache storage place to the root of my memory card (16GB sandisk class 2)
oh, and i run the stock rom 1.66
cheers m'dearsss
nickkyboy36 said:
I've searched the forums but cant find an answer to this.
Ok, so imagine im surfing the internet on opera 9.7, then i get bored so i close opera properly. my phone then for the next 2 minutes or so lags painfully. i go into taskmanager and look at proccesses and 'opera9.exe' is taking up 97% of the CPU. i dont know why, i said i had closed it
I havent fiddled with opera at all, other than moving the cache storage place to the root of my memory card (16GB sandisk class 2)
oh, and i run the stock rom 1.66
cheers m'dearsss
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It's does do it very occasionally, just force it closed using your choice of task manager, tis what I do.
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other than moving the cache storage place to the root of my memory card (16GB sandisk class 2)
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That is the reason for your lag after exiting Opera. Return it to the device memory and it will be fine.