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droid x froyo update delayed -_-

i guess vzw sent the update back to moto because security certificates were being deleted when you update from 2.1 to 2.2. upgrade has been pushed back 2-3 weeks. http://www.unwiredview.com/2010/09/...ets-custom-rom-droid-x-froyo-upgrade-delayed/

this is such BS!!!
they've had it for so long, hell droid 2 came with it out of the box!!! same hardware ffs
I have a feeling that they will abandon the DX after they release froyo for it, don't expect any more updates from them

sp1kez said:
this is such BS!!!
they've had it for so long, hell droid 2 came with it out of the box!!! same hardware ffs
I have a feeling that they will abandon the DX after they release froyo for it, don't expect any more updates from them
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Lmfao...abandon it? Yea sure they will.

if you want froyo, then flash the upgrade thats already available on the forum.. its not a big deal whatsoever.. then when the official one comes out, SBF back to 2.1 and OTA it

That article links to an original story back in the first week of August. This is really nothing new to get upset about now.
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Fireplug said:
That article links to an original story back in the first week of August. This is really nothing new to get upset about now.
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I couldn't agree more. I feel people are expecting great advances from the leaked 2.2 going to the official 2.2. I am just saying I wouldn't be surprised if it isn't much different...
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I know im not updating to the new 2.2 officially through the OTA system.. Im going to wait for someone to pull the file from there phone and then incorporate root into it and then ill flash it through the forum instead, much safter that way as far as keeping root goes

sp1kez said:
this is such BS!!!
they've had it for so long, hell droid 2 came with it out of the box!!! same hardware ffs
I have a feeling that they will abandon the DX after they release froyo for it, don't expect any more updates from them
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I know that quality android devices are being rapidly released, but the X is still a cornerstone device for the verizon and motorola. So i can't imagine that it won't at least get gingerbread.

Hope I Didn't Screw Up
I started with the Droid 2, but I fell in love with the Droid X - more memory, more screen real estate. I figured that I could wait a few weeks for them to get the same update to 2.2 that I ALREADY HAD with the D2. Someone please tell me that I didn't make a major mistake. I'm committed now. Once I switched out to the D2 this evening - VZW said there will be no more switches. I thought I made the right choice...now I'm starting to feel a bit of trepidation. Please help me brothers and sisters. I waited 3 weeks just to get this phone, please don't tell me that Motorola is going to pull a Microsoft. That's why I left those bastards at AT&T...I got sick of Microsoft's games with WinSlo 6.1, then 6.5, but only if you buy this new type of phone. I love the Android system. I wanted to see what the regular stuff looked like before I started 'rooting' and 'flashing ROMs' like I was doing nearly every week with Windows. Please tell me I haven't waited and sacrificed for nothing.

GulMiguel said:
I started with the Droid 2, but I fell in love with the Droid X - more memory, more screen real estate. I figured that I could wait a few weeks for them to get the same update to 2.2 that I ALREADY HAD with the D2. Someone please tell me that I didn't make a major mistake. I'm committed now. Once I switched out to the D2 this evening - VZW said there will be no more switches. I thought I made the right choice...now I'm starting to feel a bit of trepidation. Please help me brothers and sisters. I waited 3 weeks just to get this phone, please don't tell me that Motorola is going to pull a Microsoft. That's why I left those bastards at AT&T...I got sick of Microsoft's games with WinSlo 6.1, then 6.5, but only if you buy this new type of phone. I love the Android system. I wanted to see what the regular stuff looked like before I started 'rooting' and 'flashing ROMs' like I was doing nearly every week with Windows. Please tell me I haven't waited and sacrificed for nothing.
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You made the right choice!!! I wrestled over the DX and D2 as well... side by side... there is no question the DX is the best!
As it is right now... the DX is still great! Just a couple of more weeks, then OTA.. Froyo 2.2..
Then, I'm gonna back up the phone and start loading some other ROMs!!

Actually, the droid x is slated for end of life of next march.
I can't post the link but do a google search for droid x end of life. The first hit should be to an androidforums.com post which links to another site showing a pic off verizon's systems.
Fake? Who knows, but with cell phones being more like computers, our dx's are pretty much already set to be outdated within the next month

SerialTurd said:
Actually, the droid x is slated for end of life of next march.
I can't post the link but do a google search for droid x end of life. The first hit should be to an androidforums.com post which links to another site showing a pic off verizon's systems.
Fake? Who knows, but with cell phones being more like computers, our dx's are pretty much already set to be outdated within the next month
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No phone.. or any other technology is made to last more than a year or two.
Technology is moving too rapidly. When the "top of the line" phones are actually released, you can believe that there are already better phones in development waiting to takes it's place.

SerialTurd said:
Actually, the droid x is slated for end of life of next march.
I can't post the link but do a google search for droid x end of life. The first hit should be to an androidforums.com post which links to another site showing a pic off verizon's systems.
Fake? Who knows, but with cell phones being more like computers, our dx's are pretty much already set to be outdated within the next month
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End of life means the device will not be sold anymore at the specified date; however, support for the phone will continue.

never expect a phone to have continued support. The d1 was just dropped from the list of devices that can handle flash. Even though it was the phone they were using to show off flash on android.
Expect the worst, hope for the best...

Will Samsung Skip 2.2 for 2.3

So I was thinking.....
With all the Nexus S rumors floating around I ad a thought. Why would Samsung put much effort into 2.2 when 2.3 is coming soon. Maybe we will skip over 2.2. Also I am hoping a Nexus S will allow us have have a good shot at getting a stock Android build or a stable cyanogenmod version because it will be based on Samsung hardware.
One can only hope, or maybe me thinking is not such a good thing after all.

atrich0608 said:
Why would Samsung put much effort into 2.2 when 2.3 is coming soon.
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Samsung's efforts are complete for the most part, regarding 2.2. They have released it to (all or most, no confirmation) Galaxy S carriers. It is now up to the carriers to accept (as has been done by several) or reject (which is usually the case with VZW).
We've, of course, gotten zero verification that VZW has received anything, but based purely on the fact that it is already *out* on other SGS devices, one can logically assume VZW is the one holding the process up at this point...again, as usual.

Sounds like buisness as usual for VZW. Reminds me of my good old BlackBerry storm.

the nexus S will likely be a much a different phone while being very similar, it will likely not use RFS filesystem as it is garbage, and it will be a GSM model, while one would question why put out froyo so late in the game to your flagship, what makes you think they could have gingerbread ready if froyo still isn't ready, im primly on the same boat as everyone else and am getting tired of being jerked around while older, slower, less selling phones receive an update that we can't even get a date on.
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Why are people so upset about the Froyo delay? The Motorola Backflip that came out in March just got updated to 2.1. The Fascinate was released 2 months ago and shipped with what the Backflip was just upgraded to. It would be nice to have Froyo on the Fascinate, but is it really that big of a difference between 2.1 and 2.2 that people can't just be patient and wait for it?

I'm not 100% on this, but I don't think an upgrade from 2.1 to 2.3 can be done while completely skipping over 2.2. Not an OTA at least.

Actually most people think that if Nexus S is indeed Galaxy S that means that all Galaxy S will benefit, this is not true. Even if all other Galaxy S version receive 2.3 and fascinate doesn't, we can't do anything about 2.3 because the 2.3 kernal isn't here. OS and kernal are two different things. We've had OS sources for the longest time because it is released by Google, that doesn't mean anything if we don't have the working kernal. Devs tried to build 2.1 kernal from the ground in the past with Droid Milestone(?) but that was hell and no one would even try to do that ever again.
So stop with Nexus S = Galaxy S. Even if that is true, unless it is exactly same as Fascinate, we won't benefit anything from that, just like we can't benefit from Internation version, Vibrant, Epic 4G, and Captivate Galaxy S. We need specific "Fascinate" kernal code.

You are exactly right. We couldnt have gingerbread for the exact same reason we can't have froyo now. Think about. I think the fascinate is doomed. Thank God for our good devs, they can keep us up to date, til LTE, At which point, im out!!!
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I agree with ksizzle.. I'm starting to think this phone is doomed
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I wouldnt say its doomed at all . like dude said , its only been two months . Yeah other carriers have it already and vzw is notorious for things like this... but give it a little more . Im probably the most impatient guy around here , i mean the ONLY reason i care at all about it is so development picks up on it . I could care less about playing videos in a browser without an app haha .
I know there is a little more than flash .But there isnt really anything WRONG with 2.1 . Just lack of development ... and even with that said , new kernals are popping up , new roms ,etc . I think this phone is far from dead. i just think we are really impatient haha .

im def being pessimistic but i'm just getting flashbacks of having a blackberry tour last year and being on crackberry forums like wheres our update? and the tour being like the redheaded step child of verizons phones and i jus got deja vu w/ this delayed 2.2 situation...
and then its like gingerbread is coming out now, so there will b phones on 2.3 while we JUST get 2.2.... how long is it gonna take us to get 2.3. im fairly positive it won't b as timely as it should... so i kinda feel doomed lol... i love this phone but dam

while it may have only been two months since this phone came out froyo has been out since may 19, 2010 to be exact. That puts us at six no that behind the current OS, which In a week or 2 will be the old one. However, with that said, I think there are some things in store for everyone that will make this phone MUCH more enjoyable and hopefully we can get it soon.
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I think that we are spoiled users, if we look to the dark side, the iPhone gets a mayor update about once a year, we have to chill out a bit and enjoy what we have now
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I had froyo on my droid it really brought nothen major to the table imo. Im fine with current setup but i just want the fixes/patches for bugs and im happy. Main being gps and button backlights.

bL33d said:
I had froyo on my droid it really brought nothen major to the table imo. Im fine with current setup but i just want the fixes/patches for bugs and im happy. Main being gps and button backlights.
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I have to agree. I remember going through this when I had my Droid and being unimpressed with 2.2. Other than Flash, which for me isn't even a huge deal anyway, I didn't see what all the fuss was about.
I definitely am DYING for a GPS fix though. As for backlights, not sure what's wrong with them unless you're talking about how long they stay on but I thought that there is already a mod for that anyway, no?
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Other than flash and Google making applications not work on our phone I am totally happy. (flame suit) If it wasn't for those things I would be happy if we never got another update.
I am using JT's non- voodoo kernel and system.

atrich0608 said:
Other than flash and Google making applications not work on our phone I am totally happy. (flame suit) If it wasn't for those things I would be happy if we never got another update.
I am using JT's non- voodoo kernel and system.
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How is google making apps that don't work on the Fascinate?
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Mylt1 said:
How is google making apps that don't work on the Fascinate?
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I am taking about the app's that do not work on 2.1 period, not specifically the Fascinate. Like "Voice Actions for Android", new gmail app, etc.

jorge3687 said:
I think that we are spoiled users, if we look to the dark side, the iPhone gets a mayor update about once a year, we have to chill out a bit and enjoy what we have now
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i agree with u except fo the fact that, A. anyone with an iOS developer acct get the OS way in advance. B. when they release an OS update all their stuff gets it.

Canadas Fascinate isn't getting Froyo till January. So let's not get hopes up folkes. I don't see officisl froyo coming this month unless its a leak or a port of some sort.
Anyone ready to jump ship?

Is myTouch Slide Dead?

Guys, i might not be a active poster in this forum, but i am an active reader [100+ hits per day minimum]. Being a n00b in android developement, it might sound kinda funny. But WHAT ARE THE DEVS DOING! HAVE THEY MOVED TO ANOTHER DEVICE? I dont think its already time for the myTouch slide to be outdated. It has a 600 MHz processor, 512 MB RAM and other specs that are not outdated yet. Companies are still releasing phones having less specs than this. I see other phone's forums full of roms, kernels and other stuff. But i have been watching myTouch slide developement forum from few days, but there have been no posts at all, not even a clue of what the developers are doing. I didn't mean to be rude, but just wanted to say that MYTOUCH SLIDE IS NOT DEAD YET! And i want to thanks all the devs for all the ROMS and mods for mytouch. I appreciate your work eugene_373, wesgarner , kingofyo1 etc. [dont mind if i didnt include your name....this goes to all the devs]. Guys i appreciate your work, but we should not let the mytouch slide to die.
P.S. i am willing to offer some disk space from my vps for android community. If any devs want to host their roms or other stuff there, please contact me.
Cheers !
[Dont Take Me As Bad Or Rude]

By no means is it dead.

Dragons lie still in deathlike slumber until awakened to unleash their powerful presence upon the world of mortals yet again...aka no the slide isn't dead . Development has slowed a bit but that's mainly because there are a few key ROMs out that are being focused on. I'd rather have a selection of 3 or 4 good ROMs than dozens of crappy ones wouldn't you?
Edit: You might also want to change the title to "Is the myTouch Slide dead?" so people don't come here expecting to flame and mods don't move it without reading.

yea true...it is better to have few good roms than many bad....but it is even getting difficult to find few good roms, the only good one i have found is cyanogenmod. I will try ararays once it comes out.i hope it is great.

ksubedi said:
Guys, i might not be a active poster in this forum, but i am an active reader [100+ hits per day minimum]. Being a n00b in android developement, it might sound kinda funny. But WHAT ARE THE DEVS DOING! HAVE THEY MOVED TO ANOTHER DEVICE? I dont think its already time for the myTouch slide to be outdated. It has a 600 MHz processor, 512 MB RAM and other specs that are not outdated yet. Companies are still releasing phones having less specs than this. I see other phone's forums full of roms, kernels and other stuff. But i have been watching myTouch slide developement forum from few days, but there have been no posts at all, not even a clue of what the developers are doing. I didn't mean to be rude, but just wanted to say that MYTOUCH SLIDE IS NOT DEAD YET! And i want to thanks all the devs for all the ROMS and mods for mytouch. I appreciate your work eugene_373, wesgarner , kingofyo1 etc. [dont mind if i didnt include your name....this goes to all the devs]. Guys i appreciate your work, but we should not let the mytouch slide to die.
P.S. i am willing to offer some disk space from my vps for android community. If any devs want to host their roms or other stuff there, please contact me.
Cheers !
[Dont Take Me As Bad Or Rude]
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The MTS is pretty much dead outside of CM6 development, T-Mobile pretty much abandoned their Espresso 2.2 plans and not a whole lot of people purchased the Slide. Most who did traded it away for the HD2 or Vibrant.

What makes you say that? They never set a date to when they would release it... We really dont need anything from official froyo, besides wifi calling

thanks for the reply r0man, but in my view it is not dead yet, but i think that some developers are dead [no offence]. and arayray, can i give a suggestion for your new mod, i got the beta build somehow, everything is perfect [i think it is almost as stable as cyanogenmod]. But i think it lacks flash player. I know that every rom out there lacks it. But i have found a way to add the flash player in stock rom. Yes, but only thing needed is that we need to be able to use the sense's browser in our roms. then i have a flash apk file that is supported by the sense browser. a long time ago i had found a rom somewhere in the wild with a sense browser in stock android, and i tried the apk there, and it worked perfectly. please reply so that we can talk about this. i will be more than happy to help. and i can provide you the flash file. and i think the boot animation is a bit laggy. can you please fix it? everything else is AWESOME~!

Dude you got a good point there,I would also want to thank the devs for there hard work as well.
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arayray said:
What makes you say that? They never set a date to when they would release it... We really dont need anything from official froyo, besides wifi calling
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The myTouch 3G Slide software (Espresso) framework was completely ready for deployment in March of 2009. The fact that the device took yet another entire year to be released tells me that it is the red-headed step-child of T-Mobile and SHOULD have come out in 2009, NOT mid-2010. They will not release Froyo - all of you optimistic thinkers will continue to deny this and hope for the best, but the reality is that it was a failed device before it was even released.

lol man you reply like you have been working on tmobile as a developer for years.....how did u know that it was going to be released in 2009? and keep one thing in mind.... MYTOUCH IS NOT DEAD AT ALL!

Look at the cliq, yes they were promised 2.1 almost a year before they got it but they got it... Honestly how do you know their done with the update.

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The myTouch 3G Slide software (Espresso) framework was completely ready for deployment in March of 2009. The fact that the device took yet another entire year to be released tells me that it is the red-headed step-child of T-Mobile and SHOULD have come out in 2009, NOT mid-2010. They will not release Froyo - all of you optimistic thinkers will continue to deny this and hope for the best, but the reality is that it was a failed device before it was even released.
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T-Mo announced a month or 2 ago that the Froyo2Slide OTA will be out in December. I'm guessing next week.

It can't be dead if roms are still being developed on it.
daniel, arayray, joker, others (you know who you are).....
are doing the same thing as other devs are doing on other phones.
And it's definitely much more alive than it was a couple months ago.
Froyo/Sense hybrid + some cool features...... = definitely not dead.
A big thanks to the devs/modders.

Until CM other Modders/Devs dont produce any roms then its dead. How would you consider this phone dead when you have CM support and a nightly everyday or so. This phone isnt dead

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T-Mo announced a month or 2 ago that the Froyo2Slide OTA will be out in December. I'm guessing next week.
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Not saying it absolutely won't happen, but I'll believe it when I see it.

The development for the Slide is much much slower yes, and I am definitely not a fan of the lack of kernel development for this phone. Most of the sense roms look and feel the same, in my opinion. None of the froyo sense ports work too well, most of them either kb lights or wifi is broken. The eclair ports are pretty good, but I still prefer cr_mod. Cm6 is fairly active, but honestly, it's kind of a boring ROM. It's great and fast, but when I had my g1 I loved more the ROMs that were cm roms, plus awesome theming and the devs own twists and performance tweaks. Why don't we have more of that? We have some themed cm6 roms from miguel and one other I am blanking out on, but they are based off of nightlies, most from october or earlier, before many issues were fixed or improvements made.
Honestly, it'd be cooler to have more than just cyanogenmod and sense roms, which is why I'm excited for arayraymod, but where I'd really like to see a development boost is in the kernel area. I'm stable to 844mhz, pretty good. But our kernel from dumfuq lacks things like the brainfuck scheduler, I think it's called at least, and of course, smartass cpu governor. If we see anything I would like to see smartass incorporated. At least an undervolt?
I know, I'm digressing, this isn't a request thread by any means. The Slide isn't dead I don't think but sometimes I can't help but compare our forums to pretty much any other android phone and see how our development is depressingly slow. At least it isn't totally dead yet. If that tmo froyo ota really does come out then it may give a needed boost, hopefully at least.
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http://androidforums.com/t-mobile-mytouch-slide/203166-i-got-2-2-t-mo-thread.html
The thread starts off as your typical useless thread, but the more you read, the more possible it is that Froyo will be released. There are some independent accounts of what HTC and/or T-Mo said, but I'll say this now: if it doesn't come out by the end of December then it aint ever coming out.
I still think my previous statements about the Slide being heavily delayed and otherwise a failure (to T-Mo), are true. We'll see if T-Mo wants to hold up their end of the bargain on Froyo, however.

I think I'm up for a full upgrade in the next couple months. Come March, I'm planning on selling the Slide and getting something more top-of-the-line. I originally went with this phone because of the keyboard, but after having Swype and SwiftKey for a while, there's just no need. We got my wife a 4G yesterday and it's pretty sexy.

arayray said:
What makes you say that? They never set a date to when they would release it... We really dont need anything from official froyo, besides wifi calling
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A .32+ kernel would be nice as well.
ksubedi said:
thanks for the reply r0man, but in my view it is not dead yet, but i think that some developers are dead [no offence]. and arayray, can i give a suggestion for your new mod, i got the beta build somehow, everything is perfect [i think it is almost as stable as cyanogenmod]. But i think it lacks flash player. I know that every rom out there lacks it. But i have found a way to add the flash player in stock rom. Yes, but only thing needed is that we need to be able to use the sense's browser in our roms. then i have a flash apk file that is supported by the sense browser. a long time ago i had found a rom somewhere in the wild with a sense browser in stock android, and i tried the apk there, and it worked perfectly. please reply so that we can talk about this. i will be more than happy to help. and i can provide you the flash file. and i think the boot animation is a bit laggy. can you please fix it? everything else is AWESOME~!
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Flash: You are using the Flash Lite plugin that came with stock Espresso, most likely, as Flash 10.1 with hardware acceleration requires an ARMv7 processor where the Slide possesses an ARMv6.
Bootanimation: Change the speed in desc.txt.
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lol man you reply like you have been working on tmobile as a developer for years.....how did u know that it was going to be released in 2009? and keep one thing in mind.... MYTOUCH IS NOT DEAD AT ALL!
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The original Espresso leak was leaked in 2009.
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Look at the cliq, yes they were promised 2.1 almost a year before they got it but they got it... Honestly how do you know their done with the update.
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Well, Motorola had already done the majority of the work involved in porting 2.1 to the Cliq before T-Mobile started dropping high-end phones. It would've be cost ineffective of them to just drop the project all together. I will bet you almost anything that the Cliq will not receive an official 2.2 OTA (even though there are some alpha unofficial ports).
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T-Mo announced a month or 2 ago that the Froyo2Slide OTA will be out in December. I'm guessing next week.
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I'll believe it when I see it. I love T-Mobile, but they are absolutely horrible at sending out major OTA updates in a timely manner.
Cliq: Almost a year
Slide: Nope
G2: N/A
Mytouch 4G: N/A
Mytouch 3G: Over a year
G1: Nope
Vibrant: Nope (the latest leak is probably the final build, though)
Mytouch 3G 3mm/Fender: Nope (last I heard, at least)
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Not saying it absolutely won't happen, but I'll believe it when I see it.
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Agreed.
I'm not trying to dash anyones hopes here, CM development activity was probably continue until it cannot without a newer kernel to base on, but the MTS community is small and is getting smaller. It has been an amazing trip, and I think we can all say we have met some awesome people here, but the Slide was essentially dead-on-arrival.

Two things, CM development is still going strong. He said he's got the .32 kernel booting just not with wifi (or wifi calling not sure which) so that's not really an issue at the moment and it should show up pretty soon. Also the MT3G fender has a 2.2 update, or at least a version. I helped someone with one put froyo on it so it might just be a bit of a tweaked port but I think it's official. He wasn't rooted and he didnt get a signature issue so thats what I'm basing my guess on.

Jumped the samsung ship

After receiving the fascinate on release day, I, along with all of you have been waiting patiently (ahem) for the Froyo drop. After watching these forums and trying to learn all I could, I tried every combination that has been modded or developed here to help satisfy the need for something better than stock. I wanted to thank all of you who have been working on different things to help make this phone better in the absence of OEM support. A lot of the things delivered did make the phone better, but I always kept having to load another work around to do something I was used to doing on my old droid 2. Today, after playing with a Droid X, I decided to go ahead and dump the fascinate in favor of the X. Perhaps a mistake, but for now, I don't think so....my empty anticipation has dissipated until I start wanting gingerbread on the X. From all of my hours of watching, reading and learning from you all, it seems like the support is just there from Moto and I've never felt that from Samsung. If things work out like they normally do for me, you should be getting Froyo tomorrow thanks to me getting rid of mine. This is my first post in XDA, as I usually spend my time searching and reading to learn from the experts and I wanted to take the chance to say thank you before I start spending my time in the droid threads.

paid full price for a dx??

Okay?
It'll probably be out soon you know.. lots of Galaxy S phones are getting one way or another now. Were bound to get an official release soon. Good luck with the DX.
As for paying full price.. I paid retail for my Fascinate. I had an OG Droid prior. I plan on purchasing all my phones straight up from here on out. Screw contracts..
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Hate to see you go. But thanks for the good wishes.

I dropped the fascinate for the incredible... hopefully it'll hold me over until my upgrade lol

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I dropped the fascinate for the incredible... hopefully it'll hold me over until my upgrade lol
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I did the same. Running gingerbread now. And to the op- how does a locked bootloader= support from motorola?
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bomber889 said:
I dropped the fascinate for the incredible... hopefully it'll hold me over until my upgrade lol
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I played with both the Fascinate and the Incredible while at best buy. The Fascinate just felt like a better phone to me when using both. I'm happy with my purchase. The Incredible is a great phone though, great dev community. Enjoy your phone!

The Incredible is a fantastic phone, with one fatal flaw: its absolutely terrible GPU. I had one after owning the Droid 1, right before the Fascinate came out, and while it was tempting to switch to the Fascinate in general once they announced its release date was inside my 30-day return period (better hardware specs all-around), the graphics performance was what absolutely cinched it.
I remember trying to run on the Incredible... I think it was Asphalt 5 (though this goes for plenty of other 3D-intensive games I can't specifically remember) and it was like playing a slideshow most of the time.
Meanwhile, the Droid 1, despite its almost half-speed CPU compared to the Incredible, was able to smoothly run any game I threw at it.

not me.
Not me,
I got the Fascinate for it's hardware....
When we do get Froyo, that will just add to it's goodness!!!
cseeley

cseeley said:
Not me,
I got the Fascinate for it's hardware....
When we do get Froyo, that will just add to it's goodness!!!
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cseeley said:
Not me,
I got the Fascinate for it's hardware....
When we do get Froyo, that will just add to it's goodness!!!
cseeley
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Same here, the incredible was an option, but it is basically a redone droid eris. While decently powerful the fascinate was the better choice, even with 2.1.

Tnguy38 said:
After receiving the fascinate on release day, I, along with all of you have been waiting patiently (ahem) for the Froyo drop. After watching these forums and trying to learn all I could, I tried every combination that has been modded or developed here to help satisfy the need for something better than stock. I wanted to thank all of you who have been working on different things to help make this phone better in the absence of OEM support. A lot of the things delivered did make the phone better, but I always kept having to load another work around to do something I was used to doing on my old droid 2. Today, after playing with a Droid X, I decided to go ahead and dump the fascinate in favor of the X. Perhaps a mistake, but for now, I don't think so....my empty anticipation has dissipated until I start wanting gingerbread on the X. From all of my hours of watching, reading and learning from you all, it seems like the support is just there from Moto and I've never felt that from Samsung. If things work out like they normally do for me, you should be getting Froyo tomorrow thanks to me getting rid of mine. This is my first post in XDA, as I usually spend my time searching and reading to learn from the experts and I wanted to take the chance to say thank you before I start spending my time in the droid threads.
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I totally respect your decision, but I imagine it will be one you regret. I think people forget that we have only been waiting for Froyo a little more than three months. The droid x waited this long also. Other phones have waited much longer for promised updates.
Btw: As someone already pointed out, you call a locked bootloader better support?
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Lol you impatient people.... i had froyo on my d1 as soon as it was ported. It wasn't that amazing. Good luck to you all
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tcub said:
Okay?
As for paying full price.. I paid retail for my Fascinate. I had an OG Droid prior. I plan on purchasing all my phones straight up from here on out. Screw contracts..
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I second this. I got my Fascinate from Craigslist and will never again buy a phone on contract.
As far as Froyo, if the update is half-assed (Droid Eris style), I'll be installing a nice clean Froyo rom the friendly neighborhood developers again.

The Froyo upgrade for the Droid 1 was actually pretty amazing performance-wise, but that's neither here nor there.
And the Droid X took a bit over two months to get Froyo. We've already been waiting three and a half months.
So while the Fascinate is a great phone as-is, from an objective point of view, the upgrade wait is unjustified and I feel buyers have every right to be disappointed -- especially when the manufacturer just launched a phone running 2.3.

I think the incredible is just a tad more than a re done fascinate. That's a little bit of a understatement. The dev community is flying on that phone.
Edit: flacyn. You are exactly right. I will agree locked bootloader doesn't mean no support. Just no support from modders. And launching a gingerbread phone while your flagship line sits on eclair is dissapointing.
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Ill give u $50 4 ur fascinate since u dont want it.
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I'll go as high as $51 because it doesn't have froyo.
good day.

me personally i dont plan on playing many games on this things other than like angry birds.. so the only hardware thats appealing is the screen...

I meant to say the incredible is a tad bit more than a re done Eris. Lol my bad.
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Is it safe to say..

That the HTC Hero developing its pretty much dead?
The best devs are gone, the ROMs don't get updated as much as before.
what are your thoughts?

im gonna agree.. I moved on last dec with the dinc.. ( which is now on metropcs ) but I still have my hero.. mostly using it as a remote to my xbmc in the bedroom. etc.. gave my spare hero to my daughter for games and music til she dropped it.lmao.

Probably. Couple weeks ya got the Nexus S 4g, couple months the Evolution 3d and the Evo tablet. Epic has been out for a while. All are good phones. I think most will upgrade.
I have been running aosp 3/26 build with no issues. I think I've hit a comfort zone. I haven't flashed in so long. Getting the dt's I have my Nexus s on preorder. I've already called Sprint and received my full upgrade by threatening to switch carriers. So now its just a waiting game.
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Compared to what it was, yes, but there is still Gingerbread deving going on...CyanogenMod and aosp's builds are still being developed. There's still a kernel that Deca and s0be are doing. While it's true there may be less variations, but the big players are still in play. I'd rather have better quality than more of a selection.

Yeah i myself bought an Evo...actually it's my 3rd Evo ha ha....
when the Evo 1st came out, i bought one ..but sold it because I don't see the point of having an Evo in a city where I don't get 4G at all....I have to travel 30 mins to even use 4G....
So I sold it, used my Hero again..got tired of the Hero and bought my friends Evo that he didn't want for 100 dollars .....Sold that Evo to my sister..back to the Hero..
and Now I'm back to the Evo again but keeping the Hero around just in case my Evo breaks ...

someonenewhere said:
That the HTC Hero developing its pretty much dead?
The best devs are gone, the ROMs don't get updated as much as before.
what are your thoughts?
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Absolutely not! There's still so much more to do.
The CyanogenMod Heroc base still has a long way to go. It still ships with a 2.6.29 Linux kernel. It also ships with a bunch of proprietary files that are begging to be reverse-engineered. And the ones that have been (like libcamera) have a LONG way to go.
The 2.6.35 kernel is nearly stable for our devices, and once that's done I'm sure someone (perhaps yours truly) will work on porting a newer one. This should be exciting because Android additions were finally merged into the mainline kernel tree.
The other big thing for us is going to be replacing more proprietary libraries with source code. I'm personally planning to bring libcamera up in quality for the CM7.1 release. And it's about time for someone to start working on the OpenGL libs.
And there are always going to be more versions of Android in the future to port. And there are always going to be incremental performance tweaks.

jasonmaloney said:
Absolutely not! There's still so much more to do.
The CyanogenMod Heroc base still has a long way to go. It still ships with a 2.6.29 Linux kernel. It also ships with a bunch of proprietary files that are begging to be reverse-engineered. And the ones that have been (like libcamera) have a LONG way to go.
The 2.6.35 kernel is nearly stable for our devices, and once that's done I'm sure someone (perhaps yours truly) will work on porting a newer one. This should be exciting because Android additions were finally merged into the mainline kernel tree.
The other big thing for us is going to be replacing more proprietary libraries with source code. I'm personally planning to bring libcamera up in quality for the CM7.1 release. And it's about time for someone to start working on the OpenGL libs.
And there are always going to be more versions of Android in the future to port. And there are always going to be incremental performance tweaks.
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Yea what he said.
Yea its Me Again With The
Modified Hero

I am going to keep my Hero until ether it dies and I can not rebuild it or Sprint drops the $10 fee that would bring me nothing but a lighter wallet.
I have 4 smart phone users in my house. 3 have Heroes and one has an LG Optimus we are all under the 2 year mark. I was going to upgrade under the Sprint Premier plan, but they changed that as well, so As long as it works my Hero well be with me.
So I hope the development on the Hero continues well into the future.

I am actually pretty amazed that there is as much going on with the Hero as there is. This phone is 1 1/2 years old definitely behind the curve in regards to hardware so it is pretty nice to see how many people are still working on it. I do think it will become very quite once the EVO 3D drops but even then I would imagine there will be people keeping this thing updated.
I plan on getting the EVO 3D (it is that or the Pre 3) but I am questioning whether to keep this phone anyway. With the WiFi I should still be able to do get games and such so it could be a useful item to take on my bike or around work.

I plan on the nexus s but will keep hero running also as this little device is still getting a lot of attention. If only we can have a graphics processor and a 3.7 screen size it would be the best device to have.
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