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**June 4th Release Date - OFFICIAL!**

It's official - release date June 4 for $199 --
http://newsreleases.sprint.com/phoe...ol-newsArticle_newsroom&ID=1426178&highlight=

keatre said:
it's official - release date june 4 for $199 --
http://newsreleases.sprint.com/phoe...ol-newsarticle_newsroom&id=1426178&highlight=
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wait WTF "add mobile hotspot capability for up to eight devices for just $29.99"
Thank god for http://code.google.com/p/android-wifi-tether/

Looks like I'll be taking that day off!!!

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wait WTF "add mobile hotspot capability for up to eight devices for just $29.99"
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It gets worse... 4G is gonna cost us $10 a month, it looks like... And not sure if its an option for the plan or not, it may just be an addon for buying the phone...

Looks like we get video chat!!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/12/sprint-selling-htc-evo-4g-on-june-4-for-199/

keatre said:
It gets worse... 4G is gonna cost us $10 a month, it looks like... And not sure if its an option for the plan or not, it may just be an addon for buying the phone...
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wow, that is lame...

mrono said:
wow, that is lame...
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UPDATE*:
It might be that the $10 add-on is for Business Plans that only pay 59.99 a month.... Lets for f*** sake hope thats what they mean.

Am I correct in understanding this? You $100 mail-in rebate. You get $150 off for signing a 2 year contract. If you are eligible for the $150 upgrade rebate can you use this as well so that the cost would only be $49 after the mail-in rebate?

I have only a few mths into my new contract and I got the Hero in october. I'll be paying full price for one.
fail.
But it seems that I'll be able to get a pretty penny for mine on ebay. Especially since its been in a full phone screen protector since I bought it.

keatre said:
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It might be that the $10 add-on is for Business Plans that only pay 59.99 a month.... Lets for f*** sake hope thats what they mean.
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Well **** -- it looks like we're paying $10 extra a month, just for having the phone on a plan. Damnit Sprint, I knew you were gonna screw this up somehow...

keatre said:
Well **** -- it looks like we're paying $10 extra a month, just for having the phone on a plan. Damnit Sprint, I knew you were gonna screw this up somehow...
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Its still only 80 dollars a month for "4G" plus free mobile to mobile, text messages, and data.
Not the end of the world.

$10 for 4g isn't bad. They said it wouldn't cost more but at least it's somewhat reasonable.
Charging that for every evo regardless if that service is available or not is about the dumbest thing could do and will cost them subs they so desperately need right now.
I'm really not sure if I'm willing too pay an extra $120 pet year without 4g service.

Aridon said:
$10 for 4g isn't bad. They said it wouldn't cost more but at least it's somewhat reasonable.
Charging that for every evo regardless if that service is available or not is about the dumbest thing could do and will cost them subs they so desperately need right now.
I'm really not sure if I'm willing too pay an extra $120 pet year without 4g service.
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This is the problem that I see. A ton of people want this phone but don't live in 4G, yet are charged for it... Kinda sucks. But I guess it's the same if you live in 1x, and you buy a smartphone, you still pay 3g.

Anyone see anywhere what the retail price will be for this phone yet?

unknown_owner said:
Anyone see anywhere what the retail price will be for this phone yet?
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199 at rebate - 449.00 outright (-150 two yr agreement, -100 mail in rebate)

unknown_owner said:
Anyone see anywhere what the retail price will be for this phone yet?
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Expect it to be around $500.

michd43 said:
Expect it to be around $500.
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"May require up to a $36 activation fee/line, credit approval and deposit. Up to $200 early termination fee/line applies. Phone Offer: While supplies last. $449.99 - $150.00 (two-year activation) - $100.00 (mail-in rebate) = $199.99 (final price). Mail-in Rebate: Requires activation at the time of purchase. Line must be active 30 consecutive days. Allow 10 to 14 weeks for rebate. "
From Sprint Email

keatre said:
"...Allow 10 to 14 weeks for rebate. "
From Sprint Email
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Wow!! Rebates are now going to take longer than normal. Soon it's going to be 1 yr before you get a rebate

Wait and see what Wirefly and Amazon offer.I think they had the Droid Incredible for $149 or $199 flat out no rebates on Amazon.

So that $150 off they mention is for agreeing to a 2 year contract and not using your upgrade rebate? That would mean you could get it for $49 after the mail-in rebate if you are eligible for the upgrade rebate. That would be a great price!

Why are so many people getting the EVO unsubsidized?

Why are so many people getting the EVO off-contract? It's more expensive, and you can only use it on sprints network anyways, so why bother?
or is there something i'm missing, from what I can tell all I have to do is go to BB, pre-order and pay $50 and get the gift card, then go get my phone on the 4th and pay $150 + the gift card.....right?

What you are probably missing is that we are all already ON contract. Most of us, being Android fans, probably bought the Hero in October. 7-8 months later, the Evo comes out, well we are already on contract. You know what I mean?

chuckhriczko said:
What you are probably missing is that we are all already ON contract. Most of us, being Android fans, probably bought the Hero in October. 7-8 months later, the Evo comes out, well we are already on contract. You know what I mean?
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Oh so your not elegible to upgrade, I haven't used my upgrade discount yet so I can get it for $200 even though i'm in contract right now.

My upgrade isn't until October so instead of wasting that on a measly $75 off I am buying at full price.
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you can't just re-up for another 2 years and get it at the new activation price?

radar5 said:
you can't just re-up for another 2 years and get it at the new activation price?
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Unlike the other carriers, with sprint you can re-up every year if your a premier member, and it doesn't stack. When i get my evo it just extends my contract date 2 years from that date, so instead of my contract being up 6/2011 it will be up 6/2012

unsubsidized also cause if I wanted to sell it I could easierI'm not with sprint.

Another reason is the people on employee/partner plans. We don't get upgrades due to our pricing.

Best Buy Pre-Order page is up!

Didn't see this posted yet. bestbuy.com/xoom - says order yours today!

Slimgym20 said:
Didn't see this posted yet. bestbuy.com/xoom - says order yours today!
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Thanks. Looks like everything is as expected unfortunately.

yea but for me i dont mind i cant wait. no pre-order for delivery though. Might just order from wirefly. there isnt many stores where i live right now.

socomdark said:
yea but for me i dont mind i cant wait. no pre-order for delivery though. Might just order from wirefly. there isnt many stores where i live right now.
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Someone said Wirefly requires you keep data service for at least 6 months - not sure though - something to check into if you don't plan on keeping data.
I'll be pre ordering mine tomorrow! - Though its probably not necessary as lots of places near by will be getting them and I doubt there will be a huge amount of people waiting to get one at the current price - but just to be safe haha.

Slimgym20 said:
Someone said Wirefly requires you keep data service for at least 6 months - not sure though - something to check into if you don't plan on keeping data.
I'll be pre ordering mine tomorrow! - Though its probably not necessary as lots of places near by will be getting them and I doubt there will be a huge amount of people waiting to get one at the current price - but just to be safe haha.
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thats only for under contract deals. ive ordered from them before so i know the process. when you order a device at a subsidized price (lets say an evo) you can get it at a lower price than other places. At Sprint its on sale for 199 but if you get it at wirefly then its 149.99 with a 2 year contract. The thing is you have to have their service uninterrupted for 6 months or you pay an ETF. With something thats not in a contract you are only obligated for that one month and you are out of their hands.

socomdark said:
thats only for under contract deals. ive ordered from them before so i know the process. when you order a device at a subsidized price (lets say an evo) you can get it at a lower price than other places. At Sprint its on sale for 199 but if you get it at wirefly then its 149.99 with a 2 year contract. The thing is you have to have their service uninterrupted for 6 months or you pay an ETF. With something thats not in a contract you are only obligated for that one month and you are out of their hands.
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Yeah that makes sense, I just thought I read that someone said Wirefly requires they own 2nd party contract for 6 months - I was glancing through quickly and didn't pay much attention though

Give them a call or live chat. You must keep the data plan for at least 6 months, or be charged $300 Wirefly ETF
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Yeah, don't but from wirefly, they require a 6 month contract with no benefit to you. They probably don't even have them and just resell for verizon but get the activation credit, hence you having a contract.
Its unfortunate that there was no mention of that wifi model. Damn.
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I just went to bestbuy and pre-ordered mine. The guy said i have two options get the month-to-month but i was required to do at least 1 or 2 months, or the other options was to setup a one year contract and knock 300 from the price.

mpmorph said:
I just went to bestbuy and pre-ordered mine. The guy said i have two options get the month-to-month but i was required to do at least 1 or 2 months, or the other options was to setup a one year contract and knock 300 from the price.
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I'll call to ask about that 1 year contract. I bet there is a catch. Such as having to use a 50$ a month plan. I can't imagine they would give you 300$ off on the 20$ a month plan, as that would be only 120$ over the course of a year. Speaking of this. I would probably get a data plan permanently if they rolled data over.

You mean 240$?

mpmorph said:
I just went to bestbuy and pre-ordered mine. The guy said i have two options get the month-to-month but i was required to do at least 1 or 2 months, or the other options was to setup a one year contract and knock 300 from the price.
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$300 off the price? That's not a bad deal if you can get the $20/month plan. $500 + roughly $275 plus taxes over the course of 12 months versus $800 + $55 plus taxes all at once.

Reading from "Best Buy News" which I assume is something internal, the girl in mobile confirmed that only month-to-month data plans were available from Verizon at this time. She confirmed that they have ZERO word of any sort of 1 year or 2 year commitment or subsidy.

setite said:
Reading from "Best Buy News" which I assume is something internal, the girl in mobile confirmed that only month-to-month data plans were available from Verizon at this time. She confirmed that they have ZERO word of any sort of 1 year or 2 year commitment or subsidy.
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I guess nothing official has been sent out. The guy said he would have more information on the release date. Which is kind of weird!!!

Evo 3D is $469 off contract.

Soo I found that the evo would be $469 no contract. Now idk if its just me but imo id buy that over a 2yr anyday. No matter how u look at it. You'll be able to upgrade and sell the phone anytime u wish.
I'm getting the sgs2. But I was wondering hat everyone else thought about my opinion.
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I dont get what is so bad about renewing contract?
Lets say I renewed my contract. I pay $200 for the phone, and want to cancel my contract two months down the road, I pay an additional $150 cancelation, so the total I have into the phone is $350 vs the $460 full price.
If you are going to be on Sprint anyway, why not renew the contract?
****I am only responding because I want to know what the people who dont want to renew contracts think****

shiftr182 said:
Lets say I renewed my contract. I pay $200 for the phone, and want to cancel my contract two months down the road, I pay an additional $150 cancelation, so the total I have into the phone is $350 vs the $460 full price.
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I was wondering the same thing, as it seems cheaper to go the route above...

The way I look at it renewing the contract is no big deal, Sprint has the best prices when you look at the unlimited data.
If down the road they do jack the prices then you can terminate your contract with no early termination fee anyways since it's considered a change in contract terms and conditions.
What are you going to do, go to Verizon and be capped or AT&T and really get hamstrung?
My wife alone blows through at least 3gb a month in data streaming Pandora at work since their computers are locked down.

Well the whole idea is about what phone u have. Regardless of our plans.
As for early termination, are u allowed to keep the phone if u terminate it early? (Signed new 2yr when buying a phone?)
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Contract
If you search u can find deals if you are patient. I got the epic on a deal for 58 bucks (including shipping) with a 2 year contract. At that I could sell the phone and make a profit with the penalty for the contract.

Shoulon said:
Well the whole idea is about what phone u have. Regardless of our plans.
As for early termination, are u allowed to keep the phone if u terminate it early? (Signed new 2yr when buying a phone?)
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Yes. That's what the ETF is for.

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This... Original evo is or was not sure right now but original price 499 so no proof?
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And no proof? What the hell man.. This thread is pointless unless you have a source for what you are saying
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just saw this on SD and preorderd the phone.. 469 is not that bad off contract..

I actually just bought two Epics newly referb'd for $200 a pop because I didn't want to renew my contract.
I did this for two reasons:
1.) Didn't want to give up my upgrade because of the SG2 or another phone that hasn't been released or announced yet.
2.) Concerned about Sprint's future between the big changes in the coverage map that occurred after March and the 20 billion dollar possible investment with Lightsquared that has "supposed" GPS interference issues--I'm not signing a 2 year until I get that warm fuzzy feeling again.
Besides, I feel that the beginning of the summer isn't when you renew the contract/phone, the fall is after knowing what's left for the end of the year, not much gets released in Q1 so IMO early Q4 is the sweet spot, so you can compare what's out there to what's left to be released.
The Evo and Epic had plenty of bugs in the beginning that I don't mind waiting a month after or so release to see what gets fixed and how long it takes.

I'm not switching from Sprint anytime soon, so I imagine that my renewal of contracts wont go in vain.

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Besides, I feel that the beginning of the summer isn't when you renew the contract/phone, the fall is after knowing what's left for the end of the year, not much gets released in Q1 so IMO early Q4 is the sweet spot, so you can compare what's out there to what's left to be released.
The Evo and Epic had plenty of bugs in the beginning that I don't mind waiting a month after or so release to see what gets fixed and how long it takes.
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But if you think about it, the Evo and Epic came out within two months or so of each other, and they were the two biggest phones that sprint had all year. I will almost bet that they dont have any drastic changes after the sgs2 until next summer, and I will have another upgrade then. Heck, even if they do have another change, I will sell me epic, and my sgs2 if need be, and upgrade.

So the real issue is those of us that have the Epic that haven't passed our 1 year mark yet. Will Sprint let us renew a 2year to get the cheaper price? no way am i gonna fork out almost $500 for a phone just to have the newest.
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I'm actually quite with my Epic. Its probably going to take a 4.3" S-amoled screen with a keyboard to get me to replace it.

BigOnes69 said:
If you search u can find deals if you are patient. I got the epic on a deal for 58 bucks (including shipping) with a 2 year contract. At that I could sell the phone and make a profit with the penalty for the contract.
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You can sell your used epic for more than the $300 ETF plus $58 (plus sellers fees if you go to ebay)? Maybe you can net $5 if you're lucky. You'll more likely lose $50-100.

Poryhack said:
You can sell your used epic for more than the $300 ETF plus $58 (plus sellers fees if you go to ebay)? Maybe you can net $5 if you're lucky. You'll more likely lose $50-100.
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ETF isn't $300 I think it's 200 or 150.
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viper786 said:
ETF isn't $300 I think it's 200 or 150.
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Your're right, appears I was thinking AT&T/Verizon ETF. Sprint is a lot more reasonable.
Still though, used epics are only selling for avg $200...

shiftr182 said:
I dont get what is so bad about renewing contract?
Lets say I renewed my contract. I pay $200 for the phone, and want to cancel my contract two months down the road, I pay an additional $150 cancelation, so the total I have into the phone is $350 vs the $460 full price.
If you are going to be on Sprint anyway, why not renew the contract?
****I am only responding because I want to know what the people who dont want to renew contracts think****
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You actually make a valid point... I have it preordered for 469 but reconsidering.
I am one year into contract. Wirefly/sprint is saying im not eligible for upgrade though
Sprint has determined that you are not eligible for an upgrade at this time

shiftr182 said:
I dont get what is so bad about renewing contract?
Lets say I renewed my contract. I pay $200 for the phone, and want to cancel my contract two months down the road, I pay an additional $150 cancelation, so the total I have into the phone is $350 vs the $460 full price.
If you are going to be on Sprint anyway, why not renew the contract?
****I am only responding because I want to know what the people who dont want to renew contracts think****
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But that's not including the monthly payments for service
I would just buy it straight up 460$ and use the hotspot from the epic to run the evo3d
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[Q] Expected Price Drop?

I really want to get the Note 4 but the price is too high for me at the moment, the current price is $299.99 pretty much everywhere. Best Buy has been dropping it to $249.99 but I still find it a bit high. I'm with AT&T and they usually are slow with deals. How long do you think the wait will be for a set price of $249.99? Not that I want to pay that, but I'd expect some store to go to $199.99 for at least a few days. It's not that I don't have the money to pay for the phone, it's just that I don't want to pay that much for it.
I'll be keeping my phone for 2 years, so I want to buy it at a reasonable price for me not to feel bad of when I purchased it... I bought the Galaxy S3 two years ago and about a month later the S4 was announced and the S3 price was dropped and I could have gotten the S4.
Any input?

299.99$ and you're still complaining? It's two and a half times cheaper than in Europe!!!

$299.99 for a 2 year contract, I think you're talking about the phone unlocked.

That's right. But in your OP there's no single word about contract.

youre going to spend $1400 over the life of the contract for the phone and youre cribbing about $50 ? really ?
Just buy it for $900 like the rest of us and save yourself $500.

zurkx said:
youre going to spend $1400 over the life of the contract for the phone and youre cribbing about $50 ? really ?
Just buy it for $900 like the rest of us and save yourself $500.
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What?
bat0nas said:
That's right. But in your OP there's no single word about contract.
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Then again, there is no way I'd find an unlocked phone for $299.99...
Not a hard one, but you're out of country so you might of not known about the options.

you do understamd they charge a huge markup on the contract phone price, right ?
Your $200 note is actually $1400 or more on a 2 year contract or $900 unlocked today.

lol
I bought one 2 days ago on kijiji for 460$ Canadian use for 1 day, reason i got it so low is i managed to convince the guy that root voids the warranty and so i got it at that price with no contract

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Not a hard one, but you're out of country so you might of not known about the options.
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You are out of country. Not me

zurkx said:
you do understamd they charge a huge markup on the contract phone price, right ?
Your $200 note is actually $1400 or more on a 2 year contract or $900 unlocked today.
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What are you talking about.
I pay the $299.99 and taxes and that's it. Not hard to figure out. When I got my S3 I only spent the $199.99 plus tax and that was it. I didn't spend more on it...

what about the extra you pay every month during the 2 year contract ?

CrazyMav said:
What are you talking about.
I pay the $299.99 and taxes and that's it. Not hard to figure out. When I got my S3 I only spent the $199.99 plus tax and that was it. I didn't spend more on it...
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He's talking about the price of your contracted plan per month compared to what other providers might have. Let's assume you are paying $80 for your service....while same service can be had for $50 elsewhere... you are paying $30 more a month x 24 = $720 + the $300 you spend initially + tax.
It's theoretical... no one knows what you're paying monthly on contract.
I was paying $250 for 6 lines on AT&T... that was my contract price... I could upgrade all 6 lines on contract and get phones etc.
I switched to T-mobile and pay $120 a month. The savings was substantial and not every line need a smartphone or an upgrade. I can get new phones on installment and pay $0 down. and still cost would be less than AT&T.
It's different for everyone. You might have a cheap grandfathered plan..who knows.

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He's talking about the price of your contracted plan per month compared to what other providers might have. Let's assume you are paying $80 for your service....while same service can be had for $50 elsewhere... you are paying $30 more a month x 24 = $720 + the $300 you spend initially + tax.
It's theoretical... no one knows what you're paying monthly on contract.
I was paying $250 for 6 lines on AT&T... that was my contract price... I could upgrade all 6 lines on contract and get phones etc.
I switched to T-mobile and pay $120 a month. The savings was substantial and not every line need a smartphone or an upgrade. I can get new phones on installment and pay $0 down. and still cost would be less than AT&T.
It's different for everyone. You might have a cheap grandfathered plan..who knows.
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He mentioned a "huge markup" on the phone. That was what I read and he said. Of course we have to pay for our service, for me, I am in a family plan with no actual contract for our service.
I was simply wondering about the price of a 2 year contract on the Note 4, I figured the $299.99 price would be more than a hint that I am interested in contract prices.
Now I have no choice though. Just this morning I was in the restroom and as soon as I was about to do #1, I got a notification and picked up my phone and dropped it in the bowl, luckily it was "clean" water but now I have no sound on my phone, can't watch Youtube videos, can't use the camera and there is a red light that literally doesn't go away, even if the phone is off... Trying the rice method but don't think it'll work.
Note 4 here I come I guess.

do you seriously think youre going to get a $900 phone for $300 without getting into a plan with substantial markup over 2 years ?
they are going to loan you the $600 at 50% interest for 2 years. then youre going to pay for the voice/data/network access on top of that.

zurkx said:
do you seriously think youre going to get a $900 phone for $300 without getting into a plan with substantial markup over 2 years ?
they are going to loan you the $600 at 50% interest for 2 years. then youre going to pay for the voice/data/network access on top of that.
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I'm done. I don't believe you understand how it works here or you might not get what I am saying.
I found out that Best Buy has a price adjustment policy so I'll take advantage of that, I'll be getting it next week and hopefully the price drops for a day or so, if not, oh well.
$299.99 plus tax, that's it, for the phone.

its simple arithmetic. they arent going to sell you a $900 phone for $300.
you pay every month for the cost of the phone with markup and you pay for the plan on top of that. not sure what else is there to understand. at&t is a business like any other carrier. they arent in it for charity. just because they bake it into other places on your bill like access charges doesnt mean the phone only costs $300.

I guess it'll work just like it does here. You simply pay the cost of the phone (£0.00 in the UK), then you pay the rest with your monthly payment to the carrier (The actual minutes /texts /data are irrelevant as they have to provide them and 99% of companies offer unlimited everything now anyway barring data).

No
zurkx said:
its simple arithmetic. they arent going to sell you a $900 phone for $300.
you pay every month for the cost of the phone with markup and you pay for the plan on top of that. not sure what else is there to understand. at&t is a business like any other carrier. they arent in it for charity. just because they bake it into other places on your bill like access charges doesnt mean the phone only costs $300.
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In the US, regardless of whether your phone is unlocked or on contract, the amount you pay for a phone/text/data plan is the same.
Plans have just been recently introduced (AT&T Next, Verizon Edge, etc) where you owe nothing up front for the device and pay extra on your monthly payment to pay for the phone, but you wind up paying more in the long run than you would have if you'd just shelled out the cash up front for a 2-year plan.
Cell phones are subsidized here if you lock into a 2-year mobile contract and pay anywhere from $50-$400 up front depending on the phone.

OP, along with me, just cares about when the expected price drop will be. Was anyone around or paying attention when, approximately, the Note 3 dropped in price for those in contract? Instead of talking about how awesome off-contract is or correcting the poor fella, a proper response would be, "Yeah, man, I recall after the Mobile World Congress last year, the Note 3 dropped to $200 on-contract." Or, "The Note 3 is still $300, give it up, it will never go down."
I'm an unhappy AT&T S5 (grandfathered "unlimited" data plan) owner and am going off-contract once this one is up. My girlfriend wants the Note 4 and her grandma pays her cell phone bill so all we care about is the up-front cost. She is eligible to get a new phone in a month and we'd like to plan around that. Many of you fine folks are ridiculously resourceful and your prior experience can help us plan around that.