Why are so many people getting the EVO unsubsidized? - EVO 4G General

Why are so many people getting the EVO off-contract? It's more expensive, and you can only use it on sprints network anyways, so why bother?
or is there something i'm missing, from what I can tell all I have to do is go to BB, pre-order and pay $50 and get the gift card, then go get my phone on the 4th and pay $150 + the gift card.....right?

What you are probably missing is that we are all already ON contract. Most of us, being Android fans, probably bought the Hero in October. 7-8 months later, the Evo comes out, well we are already on contract. You know what I mean?

chuckhriczko said:
What you are probably missing is that we are all already ON contract. Most of us, being Android fans, probably bought the Hero in October. 7-8 months later, the Evo comes out, well we are already on contract. You know what I mean?
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Oh so your not elegible to upgrade, I haven't used my upgrade discount yet so I can get it for $200 even though i'm in contract right now.

My upgrade isn't until October so instead of wasting that on a measly $75 off I am buying at full price.
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you can't just re-up for another 2 years and get it at the new activation price?

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you can't just re-up for another 2 years and get it at the new activation price?
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Unlike the other carriers, with sprint you can re-up every year if your a premier member, and it doesn't stack. When i get my evo it just extends my contract date 2 years from that date, so instead of my contract being up 6/2011 it will be up 6/2012

unsubsidized also cause if I wanted to sell it I could easierI'm not with sprint.

Another reason is the people on employee/partner plans. We don't get upgrades due to our pricing.

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EVO pre order info leaked.

Check it out according to this pre order starts at the end of the month. I can't wait.
http://socialmediaseo.net/2010/05/06/htc-evo-android-4g/
While I agree that certainly confirms alot of the speculated dates it gives us very little new information.
The big announcement I and I would imagine alot of other people want is how much (the price tag) and how the 4G hot spot feature will be in terms of pricing.
It seems like June is MONTHS away! I'm so bored of my iPhone 3G. I've never had a phone for 2 years!
See with Sprint you only need to wait one year. AT&T is the devil!
Sebrina said:
See with Sprint you only need to wait one year. AT&T is the devil!
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Yea, but it's still a 2 year contract though... Right?
So I buy the EVO and Now I'm locked in for 2 years (2012). Next year I get an early upgrade and re-sign, now I'm in for 2 MORE years (2014) and it's only 2011. Correct?
It's actually very clever and I think it's a good way to keep loyal customers and keep them happy with new phones at the same time.
If I can use the EVO with this new pre-paid plan, then I'd be all about paying the up-front cost though! http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/06/sprint-virgin-mobile-announces-beyond-talk-25-pre-paid-plan/
ETF
If I am locked into my carrier for that long, and I really want to leave, I would just pay the ETF. It would be worth the fee instead of waiting three years....
They are not cumulative it is two years from the date you sign the contact
Price Leaked
Gizmodo ran a story this morning saying that it will be available for $600 off-contract and $200 in-contract and available on June 6th.
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Yea, but it's still a 2 year contract though... Right?
So I buy the EVO and Now I'm locked in for 2 years (2012). Next year I get an early upgrade and re-sign, now I'm in for 2 MORE years (2014) and it's only 2011. Correct?
It's actually very clever and I think it's a good way to keep loyal customers and keep them happy with new phones at the same time.
If I can use the EVO with this new pre-paid plan, then I'd be all about paying the up-front cost though! http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/06/sprint-virgin-mobile-announces-beyond-talk-25-pre-paid-plan/
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No, it's two years from the date you sign. If you upgrade in a year, then you sign a new two year agreement. If, a year later, you do not use your upgrade, you still have one year left on the contract. This prevents customers from getting a new device and leaving a year later without penalty. The perk is that you have the option to upgrade every 12 months as a Premier Customer.
Oh, cool. That's not bad then. I was getting a little worried.

Who is still on contract and has pre-ordered?

The reason I'm asking is because I see a lot of people pre-ordering and they say it's $199. I wanted to see if anyone was still on contract or would still be on a contract by the time the Evo comes out. I wanted to see if the people on contract were still getting the phone for $199 from BB or the shack. I know the $199 is for a $150 discount with a 2 year plan and an up-front $100 rebate.
On-contract as in "not eligible for an upgrade?" I know that RadioShack is not taking pre-orders for full retail purchases, and Best Buy is gouging the price to $600 for those not on contract. I'm going to pre-order from Sprint when they start accepting in-store (some places actually already have).
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On-contract as in "not eligible for an upgrade?" I know that RadioShack is not taking pre-orders for full retail purchases, and Best Buy is gouging the price to $600 for those not on contract. I'm going to pre-order from Sprint when they start accepting in-store (some places actually already have).
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I wonder what would be the price if I tell BB that I'm contract now but I want to renew (restart my 2yr contract). Would they just take $100 off the retail price? Guess I have to go in to BB sometime tomorrow to see how this all works. Maybe I'll try the shack as well.
Can they really inflate the price that high when retail (According to sprint) is suppose to be $450? I guess Sprint will have to take my money then and I'll have to wait 10-14 weeks for a rebate.
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I wonder what would be the price if I tell BB that I'm contract now but I want to renew (restart my 2yr contract). Would they just take $100 off the retail price? Guess I have to go in to BB sometime tomorrow to see how this all works. Maybe I'll try the shack as well.
Can they really inflate the price that high when retail (According to sprint) is suppose to be $450? I guess Sprint will have to take my money then and I'll have to wait 10-14 weeks for a rebate.
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The $100 rebate is only for new contracts and people with their 22-month full upgrade. The 12-month (non-premier) upgrade is just $75 off retail.
And yes, Best Buy can gouge all they want to.
Under Contract with TMO
I'm under contract with T-Mobile but with still 5 months left. Going to terminate the contract (only $100). Rather cough up the money than continue to use my G1 for the next five months. I want the Evo NOW.
Same here. I'm upgrading from my hero (which I got in December ) so I think your better seeing the device in a sprint store then buying it full out.
im dropping my plan to the lowest ($20/mo.) on vzw and already preordered from radio shack
TheBiles said:
The $100 rebate is only for new contracts and people with their 22-month full upgrade. The 12-month (non-premier) upgrade is just $75 off retail.
And yes, Best Buy can gouge all they want to.
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what about ppl adding another line? I pre paid on the phone already and would go back and get my money if I can't get the phone by adding another line. None of my other 2 lines are able to upgrade since I just did that 6 months ago.
apollooff320 said:
what about ppl adding another line? I pre paid on the phone already and would go back and get my money if I can't get the phone by adding another line. None of my other 2 lines are able to upgrade since I just did that 6 months ago.
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Adding another line is considered a new activation therefore you would get the phone for $199.
Where is everyone getting this 600$ quote from. At my BB the guy said he "thinks its like 600" which means that he was going off the rumoured off contract price.I don't see BB raising the price of a phone higher than it's MSRP.
setite said:
Where is everyone getting this 600$ quote from. At my BB the guy said he "thinks its like 600" which means that he was going off the rumoured off contract price.I don't see BB raising the price of a phone higher than it's MSRP.
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Oh you don't? Go to Best Buy and try to buy a Hero or a Moment off contract and enjoy paying $600 or $630, respectively!
I preordered as a current customer without an upgrade available for my phone number. I just upgraded another line on my account, and will swap hardware after I have the phone in my hand.
could somebody help me figure this out a bit?
i have the HTC Hero, bought and signed with a new 2 year contract in november 2009.
so is there any way i could get the $199 price on the evo? i think you can get the EVO but you have to sign another 2 year contract even though i'm only 6 months in?
i did it today
i per-order mines today from radioshack for 50bucks..down,,i'm hype,,for the phone,i have 1 coming my way soon..
justinisyoung said:
could somebody help me figure this out a bit?
i have the HTC Hero, bought and signed with a new 2 year contract in november 2009.
so is there any way i could get the $199 price on the evo? i think you can get the EVO but you have to sign another 2 year contract even though i'm only 6 months in?
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No. You are stuck paying the full price. I am a smart one though. I had a Sprint account back in the day, left with good standing. I ran into credit issues and about a year back had to pay a deposit so I just went on my father's plan with my fiancee instead. Well, I just got my Hero in October, 2 yr contract. Called up Sprint. They told me to get the Evo in my name, new account with a new phone number. Then afterward, get my dad and transfer my Hero line into my account. I get the 2 yr new activation price for the Evo, I keep my number and I don't have to pay the ETF. Life is f-ing sweet!
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No. You are stuck paying the full price. I am a smart one though. I had a Sprint account back in the day, left with good standing. I ran into credit issues and about a year back had to pay a deposit so I just went on my father's plan with my fiancee instead. Well, I just got my Hero in October, 2 yr contract. Called up Sprint. They told me to get the Evo in my name, new account with a new phone number. Then afterward, get my dad and transfer my Hero line into my account. I get the 2 yr new activation price for the Evo, I keep my number and I don't have to pay the ETF. Life is f-ing sweet!
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If I understand this right, aren't you still left with paying for 3 lines, yours, your fathers' and your fiancee's?
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If I understand this right, aren't you still left with paying for 3 lines, yours, your fathers' and your fiancee's?
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Yes but I don't pay for those lines. The owner's of the lines do. I will now be on my own plan, by myself with no ties to them. This isn't the solution for everyone but I figured maybe if someone is in the same situation it may help them.
Radio Shack would not let me upgrade, because I am not eligible until June 1st for upgrade. I just went over to Best Buy and signed right up.
Also, the rep at Radio Shack was not clear as to whether or not I would get the phone on Launch day or not. The Best Buy mobile manager told me for sure that I would get it then. I wanted to try Radio Shack first, simply because of the $20 of free accessories, but hey, you win some, you lose some.
then again, in the case of the Evo, I think we all win
It's like they timed this specifically for Palm Pre Premier owners... Friggin awesome.
justinisyoung said:
could somebody help me figure this out a bit?
i have the HTC Hero, bought and signed with a new 2 year contract in november 2009.
so is there any way i could get the $199 price on the evo? i think you can get the EVO but you have to sign another 2 year contract even though i'm only 6 months in?
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If you go through sprint, you'll probably have to renew your 2 yr contract so that it starts up at June 4th, or whenever you get the EVO. You won't get the $150 upgrade discount, but you'll get the $100 mail-in-rebate though.
I believe this is what you'll go through because this is what I'm thinking will happen for me. I too bought the Hero in Nov. 09. But in the past when renewing a contract, Sprint has always just restarted my contracts when I wanted a new contract.
Do to the retail cost that BB and the shack might, I'm going to go through sprint, but not the sprint store. If you go through the sprint store, you'll have to pay the $36 activation fee. Most of the phones that you buy online through Sprint, don't charge an activation fee, so I'm thinking (hoping) this will be through for the EVO when they start selling them online.
I'm still on contract and pre-ordered with best buy, was quoted $199

Getting AT&T discount while still in middle of contract

I usually suck at getting these kinds of things, so thought I would ask first before trying, to see if there are any tips for things I should be saying.
I want to get the Streak, but I renewed my 2 year contract with AT&T back in January of this year. So I still have a year 3 months left on my contract. I know that I can get an early contract renewal with a fee of $75, but that is usually straight through AT&T. I tried to go through Dell, and was told I can't get the $250 discount because I'm still on contract.
Has anyone managed to do early renewal at all through AT&T and get the discount for the Streak? I would really appreciate any help on this. My Tilt 2 was OK and everything, but I want something with more...OMPH.
So just sell your current phone on eBay and order a Streak. Your sale = the carrier subsidy you seek.
Best wishes,
Geoff
Well, considering the original plan was get subsidy and sell old phone so Streak only costs me about $150 to $200, this sort of puts a monkey wrench in that. The main reason I'm not just buying it without is the wife factor.
My contract isn't up until January 2011, I bought my Streak and got it for $299. Must have been a glitch, I bought it the first day it was released.
That might be because AT&T usually lets people slide when within 6 months of contract ending.
xilpaxim said:
That might be because AT&T usually lets people slide when within 6 months of contract ending.
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True but I can still upgrade with a discount in 3 months though. I've went to the store and upgraded a few months early and they changed my upgrade date. I'm not complaining though.

Best Buy Pre-Order page is up!

Didn't see this posted yet. bestbuy.com/xoom - says order yours today!
Slimgym20 said:
Didn't see this posted yet. bestbuy.com/xoom - says order yours today!
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Thanks. Looks like everything is as expected unfortunately.
yea but for me i dont mind i cant wait. no pre-order for delivery though. Might just order from wirefly. there isnt many stores where i live right now.
socomdark said:
yea but for me i dont mind i cant wait. no pre-order for delivery though. Might just order from wirefly. there isnt many stores where i live right now.
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Someone said Wirefly requires you keep data service for at least 6 months - not sure though - something to check into if you don't plan on keeping data.
I'll be pre ordering mine tomorrow! - Though its probably not necessary as lots of places near by will be getting them and I doubt there will be a huge amount of people waiting to get one at the current price - but just to be safe haha.
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Someone said Wirefly requires you keep data service for at least 6 months - not sure though - something to check into if you don't plan on keeping data.
I'll be pre ordering mine tomorrow! - Though its probably not necessary as lots of places near by will be getting them and I doubt there will be a huge amount of people waiting to get one at the current price - but just to be safe haha.
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thats only for under contract deals. ive ordered from them before so i know the process. when you order a device at a subsidized price (lets say an evo) you can get it at a lower price than other places. At Sprint its on sale for 199 but if you get it at wirefly then its 149.99 with a 2 year contract. The thing is you have to have their service uninterrupted for 6 months or you pay an ETF. With something thats not in a contract you are only obligated for that one month and you are out of their hands.
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thats only for under contract deals. ive ordered from them before so i know the process. when you order a device at a subsidized price (lets say an evo) you can get it at a lower price than other places. At Sprint its on sale for 199 but if you get it at wirefly then its 149.99 with a 2 year contract. The thing is you have to have their service uninterrupted for 6 months or you pay an ETF. With something thats not in a contract you are only obligated for that one month and you are out of their hands.
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Yeah that makes sense, I just thought I read that someone said Wirefly requires they own 2nd party contract for 6 months - I was glancing through quickly and didn't pay much attention though
Give them a call or live chat. You must keep the data plan for at least 6 months, or be charged $300 Wirefly ETF
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Yeah, don't but from wirefly, they require a 6 month contract with no benefit to you. They probably don't even have them and just resell for verizon but get the activation credit, hence you having a contract.
Its unfortunate that there was no mention of that wifi model. Damn.
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I just went to bestbuy and pre-ordered mine. The guy said i have two options get the month-to-month but i was required to do at least 1 or 2 months, or the other options was to setup a one year contract and knock 300 from the price.
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I just went to bestbuy and pre-ordered mine. The guy said i have two options get the month-to-month but i was required to do at least 1 or 2 months, or the other options was to setup a one year contract and knock 300 from the price.
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I'll call to ask about that 1 year contract. I bet there is a catch. Such as having to use a 50$ a month plan. I can't imagine they would give you 300$ off on the 20$ a month plan, as that would be only 120$ over the course of a year. Speaking of this. I would probably get a data plan permanently if they rolled data over.
You mean 240$?
mpmorph said:
I just went to bestbuy and pre-ordered mine. The guy said i have two options get the month-to-month but i was required to do at least 1 or 2 months, or the other options was to setup a one year contract and knock 300 from the price.
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$300 off the price? That's not a bad deal if you can get the $20/month plan. $500 + roughly $275 plus taxes over the course of 12 months versus $800 + $55 plus taxes all at once.
Reading from "Best Buy News" which I assume is something internal, the girl in mobile confirmed that only month-to-month data plans were available from Verizon at this time. She confirmed that they have ZERO word of any sort of 1 year or 2 year commitment or subsidy.
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Reading from "Best Buy News" which I assume is something internal, the girl in mobile confirmed that only month-to-month data plans were available from Verizon at this time. She confirmed that they have ZERO word of any sort of 1 year or 2 year commitment or subsidy.
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I guess nothing official has been sent out. The guy said he would have more information on the release date. Which is kind of weird!!!

Evo 3D is $469 off contract.

Soo I found that the evo would be $469 no contract. Now idk if its just me but imo id buy that over a 2yr anyday. No matter how u look at it. You'll be able to upgrade and sell the phone anytime u wish.
I'm getting the sgs2. But I was wondering hat everyone else thought about my opinion.
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I dont get what is so bad about renewing contract?
Lets say I renewed my contract. I pay $200 for the phone, and want to cancel my contract two months down the road, I pay an additional $150 cancelation, so the total I have into the phone is $350 vs the $460 full price.
If you are going to be on Sprint anyway, why not renew the contract?
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shiftr182 said:
Lets say I renewed my contract. I pay $200 for the phone, and want to cancel my contract two months down the road, I pay an additional $150 cancelation, so the total I have into the phone is $350 vs the $460 full price.
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I was wondering the same thing, as it seems cheaper to go the route above...
The way I look at it renewing the contract is no big deal, Sprint has the best prices when you look at the unlimited data.
If down the road they do jack the prices then you can terminate your contract with no early termination fee anyways since it's considered a change in contract terms and conditions.
What are you going to do, go to Verizon and be capped or AT&T and really get hamstrung?
My wife alone blows through at least 3gb a month in data streaming Pandora at work since their computers are locked down.
Well the whole idea is about what phone u have. Regardless of our plans.
As for early termination, are u allowed to keep the phone if u terminate it early? (Signed new 2yr when buying a phone?)
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Contract
If you search u can find deals if you are patient. I got the epic on a deal for 58 bucks (including shipping) with a 2 year contract. At that I could sell the phone and make a profit with the penalty for the contract.
Shoulon said:
Well the whole idea is about what phone u have. Regardless of our plans.
As for early termination, are u allowed to keep the phone if u terminate it early? (Signed new 2yr when buying a phone?)
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Yes. That's what the ETF is for.
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This... Original evo is or was not sure right now but original price 499 so no proof?
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And no proof? What the hell man.. This thread is pointless unless you have a source for what you are saying
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just saw this on SD and preorderd the phone.. 469 is not that bad off contract..
I actually just bought two Epics newly referb'd for $200 a pop because I didn't want to renew my contract.
I did this for two reasons:
1.) Didn't want to give up my upgrade because of the SG2 or another phone that hasn't been released or announced yet.
2.) Concerned about Sprint's future between the big changes in the coverage map that occurred after March and the 20 billion dollar possible investment with Lightsquared that has "supposed" GPS interference issues--I'm not signing a 2 year until I get that warm fuzzy feeling again.
Besides, I feel that the beginning of the summer isn't when you renew the contract/phone, the fall is after knowing what's left for the end of the year, not much gets released in Q1 so IMO early Q4 is the sweet spot, so you can compare what's out there to what's left to be released.
The Evo and Epic had plenty of bugs in the beginning that I don't mind waiting a month after or so release to see what gets fixed and how long it takes.
I'm not switching from Sprint anytime soon, so I imagine that my renewal of contracts wont go in vain.
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Besides, I feel that the beginning of the summer isn't when you renew the contract/phone, the fall is after knowing what's left for the end of the year, not much gets released in Q1 so IMO early Q4 is the sweet spot, so you can compare what's out there to what's left to be released.
The Evo and Epic had plenty of bugs in the beginning that I don't mind waiting a month after or so release to see what gets fixed and how long it takes.
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But if you think about it, the Evo and Epic came out within two months or so of each other, and they were the two biggest phones that sprint had all year. I will almost bet that they dont have any drastic changes after the sgs2 until next summer, and I will have another upgrade then. Heck, even if they do have another change, I will sell me epic, and my sgs2 if need be, and upgrade.
So the real issue is those of us that have the Epic that haven't passed our 1 year mark yet. Will Sprint let us renew a 2year to get the cheaper price? no way am i gonna fork out almost $500 for a phone just to have the newest.
JD
I'm actually quite with my Epic. Its probably going to take a 4.3" S-amoled screen with a keyboard to get me to replace it.
BigOnes69 said:
If you search u can find deals if you are patient. I got the epic on a deal for 58 bucks (including shipping) with a 2 year contract. At that I could sell the phone and make a profit with the penalty for the contract.
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You can sell your used epic for more than the $300 ETF plus $58 (plus sellers fees if you go to ebay)? Maybe you can net $5 if you're lucky. You'll more likely lose $50-100.
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You can sell your used epic for more than the $300 ETF plus $58 (plus sellers fees if you go to ebay)? Maybe you can net $5 if you're lucky. You'll more likely lose $50-100.
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ETF isn't $300 I think it's 200 or 150.
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ETF isn't $300 I think it's 200 or 150.
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Your're right, appears I was thinking AT&T/Verizon ETF. Sprint is a lot more reasonable.
Still though, used epics are only selling for avg $200...
shiftr182 said:
I dont get what is so bad about renewing contract?
Lets say I renewed my contract. I pay $200 for the phone, and want to cancel my contract two months down the road, I pay an additional $150 cancelation, so the total I have into the phone is $350 vs the $460 full price.
If you are going to be on Sprint anyway, why not renew the contract?
****I am only responding because I want to know what the people who dont want to renew contracts think****
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You actually make a valid point... I have it preordered for 469 but reconsidering.
I am one year into contract. Wirefly/sprint is saying im not eligible for upgrade though
Sprint has determined that you are not eligible for an upgrade at this time
shiftr182 said:
I dont get what is so bad about renewing contract?
Lets say I renewed my contract. I pay $200 for the phone, and want to cancel my contract two months down the road, I pay an additional $150 cancelation, so the total I have into the phone is $350 vs the $460 full price.
If you are going to be on Sprint anyway, why not renew the contract?
****I am only responding because I want to know what the people who dont want to renew contracts think****
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But that's not including the monthly payments for service
I would just buy it straight up 460$ and use the hotspot from the epic to run the evo3d
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