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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=720294
Check out the thread there. 2.2 w/ working sense on the desire, I know our hero guys can do the same.
I don't like sense personally!
I loved sense....now I c how worthless it is
sense is what makes the hero "the" hero. i love sense.
The hell with Sense. I don't use it and probably won't but it would be nice to have/use once in awhile.
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The hell with Sense. I don't use it and probably won't but it would be nice to have/use once in awhile.
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i love sense. it has the most features and is the best looking. my current sense build is way faster than darch 2.7
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i love sense. it has the most features and is the best looking. my current sense build is way faster than darch 2.7
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Agreed I love sense and people are dead set saying sense is the reason there rom is slow. I disagree and think they r retarded. They just have no idea how to use it and add speed to their rom
Any AOSP ROM I've ever used, JIT's, overclocking and all, is WAY less smooth than Sense.
My gf (iphone user) picks up my phone and tries scrolling through the home screens in ADW Launcher, and goes 'your phone is so slow, what's wrong with it'?
SenseUI is wildly smooth in comparison. Responsive to swipes, the screens scroll smoothly, and it looks a lot better.
SenseUI is what makes these phones better than iPhone for a lot of users.
The functionality of Android is already better IMO, but SenseUI makes it prettier and smoother.
I ALWAYS go back to SenseUI no matter how much I try to show my love to AOSP ROMs.
Sense FTW
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Agreed I love sense and people are dead set saying sense is the reason there rom is slow. I disagree and think they r retarded. They just have no idea how to use it and add speed to their rom
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exactly man! im glad we still have a few people with some "sense"
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Any AOSP ROM I've ever used, JIT's, overclocking and all, is WAY less smooth than Sense.
My gf (iphone user) picks up my phone and tries scrolling through the home screens in ADW Launcher, and goes 'your phone is so slow, what's wrong with it'?
SenseUI is wildly smooth in comparison. Responsive to swipes, the screens scroll smoothly, and it looks a lot better.
SenseUI is what makes these phones better than iPhone for a lot of users.
The functionality of Android is already better IMO, but SenseUI makes it prettier and smoother.
I ALWAYS go back to SenseUI no matter how much I try to show my love to AOSP ROMs.
Sense FTW
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I feel the same. I *always* try AOSP releases(latest the froyo) and enjoy them, but it's just not the same as with sense.
On that note, anyone up for the challenge?
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I feel the same. I *always* try AOSP releases(latest the froyo) and enjoy them, but it's just not the same as with sense.
On that note, anyone up for the challenge?
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challenge? lol
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On that note, anyone up for the challenge?
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I, I don't know what I'd do for the person who succeeds in that challenge, other then give them my greatest unending appreciation. No offense to any of the modders out there (as I think what you are doing is frigging amazing) but I've yet to see any build come close to approaching the general aesthetic feel of Sense.
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Any AOSP ROM I've ever used, JIT's, overclocking and all, is WAY less smooth than Sense.
My gf (iphone user) picks up my phone and tries scrolling through the home screens in ADW Launcher, and goes 'your phone is so slow, what's wrong with it'?
SenseUI is wildly smooth in comparison. Responsive to swipes, the screens scroll smoothly, and it looks a lot better.
SenseUI is what makes these phones better than iPhone for a lot of users.
The functionality of Android is already better IMO, but SenseUI makes it prettier and smoother.
I ALWAYS go back to SenseUI no matter how much I try to show my love to AOSP ROMs.
Sense FTW
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You know you can adjust the speed at which ADW Launcher scrolls, right?
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You know you can adjust the speed at which ADW Launcher scrolls, right?
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you know sense is better right? lol
cp0020 said:
you know sense is better right? lol
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You know your statement is highly opinionated right? lol
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You know your statement is highly opinionated right? lol
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you know i know you know that i know you know that sense is better(fact) right?
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you know i know you know that i know you know that sense is better(fact) right?
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Um duh any intelligent person knows that.
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Agreed I love sense and people are dead set saying sense is the reason there rom is slow. I disagree and think they r retarded. They just have no idea how to use it and add speed to their rom
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so because people don't like sense means they are retarded? i hate to break the news to you but any rom that is stripped of sense runs not only faster but gives you more memory.
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so because people don't like sense means they are retarded? i hate to break the news to you but any rom that is stripped of sense runs not only faster but gives you more memory.
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U think so. So lets see um my rom for instance hmmmmm......has sense plus 2 other launchers...has oc...has a2sd...is huge file(147 MB download LOL)...installed I have over 100 MB free and running sense as the launcher the rom is blazing fast. Maybe as fast as darchdroid. It has nothing to do with sense. It has to do with slow SD cards. Non overclocked roms. And not knowing what ur doing. U can go ahead and run around and make statements like the ignorant ones I see u paste all over but just know that the people out here that actually know how to get a rom running fast and stable and actually produce work know the truth
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U think so. So lets see um my rom for instance hmmmmm......has sense plus 2 other launchers...has oc...has a2sd...is huge file(147 MB download LOL)...installed I have over 100 MB free and running sense as the launcher the rom is blazing fast. Maybe as fast as darchdroid. It has nothing to do with sense. It has to do with slow SD cards. Non overclocked roms. And not knowing what ur doing. U can go ahead and run around and make statements like the ignorant ones I see u paste all over but just know that the people out here that actually know how to get a rom running fast and stable and actually produce work know the truth
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i think the people who say they don't like sense because its too slow, obviously haven't tried any of the newer sense roms. and if they did and still say its too slow then yeah, they obviously dont know what their doing lol now i'm not saying that aosp is slow....i'm just saying that in my honest opinion, sense is better. its faster than darch's(my opinion), you get alot more personality, it looks absolutely amazing, and there is just nothing like it.
Coming from the Nexus One, running cMod6, I can't describe how choppy and over-themed this software is. Please, for the love of god, someone develop a Vanilla Android rom!!!! PLEASE!!
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Coming from the Nexus One, running cMod6, I can't describe how choppy and over-themed this software is. Please, for the love of god, someone develop a Vanilla Android rom!!!! PLEASE!!
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Hang tight. Good things are right around the corner.
Use launcher pro for the time being.
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The "theme" is as light as it could be for a complete overhaul. You need to look elsewhere for the reasons why your phone is choppy, it's certainly not TW overall (maybe the widgets, some of them are extremely laggy).
Do the lag fix. World of difference
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From Eugene_373:
Sound & Camera is only thing left to fix for Stock Google Android on the Vibrant... Barak is working on that tonig http://twitpic.com/2djkpi
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From Eugene_373:
Sound & Camera is only thing left to fix for Stock Google Android on the Vibrant... Barak is working on that tonig http://twitpic.com/2djkpi
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+1.
@ OP: Eugene's ROM is probably the fastest and most stable out right now. Besides, why wouldn't you have just downloaded ADW by now? Isn't that the stock Launcher on all CM ROMS now-a-days??? I would suggest following some devs on twitter too, you'll see that things are coming around nicely.
Here is a Few Pic's
http://twitpic.com/2djkpi http://twitpic.com/2dfx9i http://twitpic.com/2dfx5l http://twitpic.com/2dfwwv http://twitpic.com/2dfwrb http://twitpic.com/2dfwkb
Yea, I couldn't stand it either. Way too colorful for my tastes.
Just remove all the widgets from your home screens. Instant fix. At least it was for me.
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Here is a Few Pic's
http://twitpic.com/2djkpi http://twitpic.com/2dfx9i http://twitpic.com/2dfx5l http://twitpic.com/2dfwwv http://twitpic.com/2dfwrb http://twitpic.com/2dfwkb
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Wow. Iv been an Anrdroid user since the G1 first came out and after looking at those pics vanilla Android looks so Win95ish and TouchWiz is Windows 7ish.
To each his own I guess...
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Wow. Iv been an Anrdroid user since the G1 first came out and after looking at those pics vanilla Android looks so Win95ish and TouchWiz is Windows 7ish.
To each his own I guess...
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Yeah, the TW overlay is severely undervalued
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Yeah, the TW overlay is severely undervalued
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Yea, I dont get the hate....
The only thing that is really overly slow, is the cold boot-up process (media scanning, especially). Other than that, I find TouchWiz to be my favorite of all Android skins. There is a noticeable lag when launching an app for the first time (two seconds or so), but I'm willing to deal with that, even if there is room for improvement.
Not having some of the TouchWiz customizations is what keeps me from jumping to another Android phone. I couldn't live without these iPhone-like Calendar and Clock apps.
But you think TouchWiz is bad? Christ, go try scrolling around the home screens of the Droid X or the EVO. Those phones feel so antiquated, to me. Though, I'd like to see if 2.2 makes them usable...
In other news: GPS and Compass are still completely broken, with no word from Samsung.
not hate tw lags like a ***** is all.
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not hate tw lags like a ***** is all.
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Really? I thought that had more to do with the I/O performance. Stock Android is going to be snappier for sure but there is no reason why the Vibrant can't handle TouchWiz, which a good portion of is just different colors. My eyes are bleeding after looking at stock Android on the Vibrant. I know some prefer it but I can't tell you how many people think TW is just the "iPhone launcher"
simply put, if you don't like it, don't use it when we release it...
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simply put, if you don't like it, don't use it when we release it...
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That's not what I was saying at all, and I won't. Simply put.
I'm sure most people wouldn't mind it if it wasn't so damn colorful and a blatant copy of iOS. Besides the vibrant already looks very similar to an iPhone no need in making it look like you are using a knockoff.
To be fair TW has some very nice additions but at a price of ugly.
Wow, I thought having a verity would be nice... If you up tight, please don't use anything I post.. There is no point in being high and mighty...
Some don't like tw, some do... Some like plain jane.. I like both so I don't care, but have source we can work from? Well, we'll never have tw source so be grateful anyone is working on stuff from source.
I just switched from a HTC Incredible, rooted, w/skyraider 3.0 loaded, to the Droid X. I have to say, I loved the HTC phones, had a droid before it that I didn't like to much, BUT, this X is amazing. The screen, for not being an LED, is amazing. It looks way better than the INC. Looks like some of the things on the screen actually jump out at you, like 3D or something... It seems to react faster to everything also. Anyone else been this happy with switching??? Oh and It is rooted and loaded with froyo 2.2, so has flash and all the free rooted apps, like wifi tether!
welcome to the dx side... yeah its amazing but dont get me wrong the dinc is pretty cool too with senses, just image if senses ul was on the dx instead of blur, holy! that would be one bad machine there, truely the king of android/droid devices of its time.
can you check the loaded version of the flash player you have for me? i need the full version numbers. thanks
also there's an updated version of your flashplayer, its found in the themes and apps section of this forum by me, but here it is >>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=763584 <<<
The flash player on mine says version 10.1.72.10... I did really like the Dinc, BUT I don't see the major difference in sense and blur. What are the main differences???
yeah i guess i needed that update... thanks!
thanks for the info.
sense ui is so much cleaner and well put together. i cant really explaining the differences, but there is a huge difference in the two ui's and im sure someone else can explain it...
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thanks for the info.
sense ui is so much cleaner and well put together. i cant really explaining the differences, but there is a huge difference in the two ui's and im sure someone else can explain it...
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Well let me explain each:
HTC SENSE: Basically you have a dock which ONLY has soft-buttons for Phone, the app drawer, and I forget what the plus sign does.... Possibly to add home screen widgets I think....
Motorola BLUR: Motos dock contains a phone soft-button, as well as contacts and app drawer... The only other thing that blur does is chance the dock when swiping to represent what home screen you are on....
EVERYTHING ELSE IS JUST WIDGETS SUCKING UP RESOURCES.
And my last statement is exactly why folks want Vanilla Froyo.. nothing BUT the Android OS. No moto Widgets, No sense..... Just Froyo.. and I will use Launcher Pro always of course!
Hope this helped some of you guys...
i was a dinc to x convert. gave the wife the dinc. loved the dinc. i'm a modder by nature and the dinc has tons of custom roms and other hacks you can do to it which made for consistant enjoyment. i can't wait until some more developments are made with the x so we can do the same kind of stuff to it.
that said, the screen on the x (giant goodness) is really the biggest difference i see. the speed on both is about the same.
the one thing i noticed is that i seem to get better 3g with the x than the dinc (same location) and the dinc gets better wifi than the x. must have something to do with antenna difference i guess.
I have to choose either epic or evo tomorrow, and would like the epic cause of the screen quality and the video quality.. but the evo has sense and i simply cant live without it..my question is would there anytime soon be a sense port to the epic? cause i would love to have the best of both worlds.. i dont want no alternative widgets ect..i want sense on that amazin amoled screen...
If I can remember there was a team of people trying to port it, but haven't heard from then in awhile
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It's being worked on right now. by 2 devs, 2 good devs, who will most likely have it done a few days after the official froyo release.
Sense? Are you serious? Just go get an EVO cause if your buying an Epic to put Sense on it you could be waiting forever. And also the Epic is to nice a phone to ruin it with Sense.
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get the EVO, we don't need another "krazie" in here posting in the wrong section.
OP reported as belonging in the general section.
If you want Sense, just get an Evo. No port will function 100% like official Sense from HTC. Personally, I hate all these customized launchers from manufacturers (Sense, Touchwiz, etc.) as they're slow and laggy, and I just use LauncherPro (ADW is great as well).
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It's being worked on right now. by 2 devs, 2 good devs, who will most likely have it done a few days after the official froyo release.
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LOL..yea ok. I know its being worked on, but its far from being even close
Fck sense I had it on mts3gs and its nothing special,how about porting Xperia X10 Rachel or Acer Breeze ui they look way better and offer way more functionality,i even like our Epic's Twiz better than sence.
Yeahh i was just trying to get the thread over with. i hate stupid questoins
I thought I would miss sense when coming from the touch pro 2 to the epic. Boy was I wrong.. sense is so slow in comparison to the eic running launcher pro or adw.. sense has sme cool features but nothing that you can't download or add with launcher pro.. but if you really want 100% sense go with the evo.. I'm sure either way you won't be dissapointed
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I personaly like sense and hate touchwiz however owning both an evo (wife) and epic (myself) I can tell you performance/battery/screen...etc wise the epic is a better phone. I miss sense as well but nothing you can't be without. Get the epic!
thanks to everybody who gave me positive feedback. to all the rude people making smart comments, i would like to cuss you guys out but im going to be an adult about the situation. with that being said, Im going to get the evo..simply because I believe the camera will be modded by developers..i have seen the youtube videos and all and have been blown away by the epics quality as far as audio and video camera..but i simply cant live without sense..the calender and peep widget and email widget have me in love
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thanks to everybody who gave me positive feedback. to all the rude people making smart comments, i would like to cuss you guys out but im going to be an adult about the situation. with that being said, Im going to get the evo..simply because I believe the camera will be modded by developers..i have seen the youtube videos and all and have been blown away by the epics quality as far as audio and video camera..but i simply cant live without sense..the calender and peep widget and email widget have me in love
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I love sense. Its amazing..but launcher pro pretty much has me covered with its sense like widgets..if you stay on a few minutes ill post scree shots
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Fck sense I had it on mts3gs and its nothing special,how about porting Xperia X10 Rachel or Acer Breeze ui they look way better and offer way more functionality,i even like our Epic's Twiz better than sence.
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I've agreed with him before and I agree once again
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lviv73 said:
Fck sense I had it on mts3gs and its nothing special,how about porting Xperia X10 Rachel or Acer Breeze ui they look way better and offer way more functionality,i even like our Epic's Twiz better than sence.
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What you like isn't really relevant to the OP.
Check out this thread and the video. Had the guy fooled into thinking it's SenseUI but it's actually just a theme and widgets. Take a quick look at it, you might just find it suites your taste.
+1 for adw
Sense is aright, but really....on the epic...
I hate TW myself. So went with adw and never looked back! My roomie has adw on his evo and would never go back to sense.
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+1 to the Launcherpro comment. The widgets are just as nice, if not better because of the better speed.
I don't believe there is a email widget though... the Samsung email application is simple enough and handles emails like a dream though, the exchange calendars sync right up to, AND the launcherpro widget can pull in everything even from the Samsung calendar app. It's fairly nice.
It's really all about personal preference, I'd pick based on the pros and cons of each that aren't software related, because even if the official sense never makes it to the epic there are alternatives that will do the same thing, look just as good, and be faster and easier on the battery. At the heart of Android lies Linux.. and like anything Linux you can customize to your hearts content.
The Epic trounces the Evo in terms of performance, the evo has a bigger screen but the epics is higher quality, battery life is better on the epic, the evo gets faster updates but the epic in theory might get them longer with the superior hardware, the epic has a pretty good hardware keyboard the evo has an awesome touch screen keyboard (which can be installed on the epic), epic 3D performance is outstanding while the Evo's is so-so but not bad, the evo's build quality seems better and the epic feels less solid due to its keyboard slider (you will have that tiny tiny amount of play in the screen even closed like most slider phones have). List goes on and on. You can't go wrong with either really.
Just watched that video of "pseudo sense" hilarious.....
you can get anything you want, to look like anything you want for android. You just gotta be persistent. If you like the Hardware of the Epic, go with the epic. You might get tired of Sense.
I have the Epic and the Evo.. Rocked the Evo for a week and a half and went back to the Epic. Just better quality screen and got bored of Sense.
I been using Go Launcher on the epic and I like it better than Launcher Pro may wanna try it out its free and uses less memory.
I recently s-off my phone and rooted it and try a couple of roms but to tell you the truth cyanogen and mexdroid are tough all of my apps work except you tube on cyanogen it gave some hard time besides that any problem go to fix permisions on rom manager and that s it thanks this is my first post so feel free to reply
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Punctuation is your friend. Sorry about whatever your question or statement was, I got nothing out of that mess of words.
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Punctuation is your friend. Sorry about whatever your question or statement was, I got nothing out of that mess of words.
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What I read was a mess of a run-on sentence written by a sycophant. I ran Mexdroid on my phone for maybe two days before I got tired of the lag, and that's after I ran fix permissions.
well welcome to the community. don't mind the haters here.
and miui owns all.. ive no issues and battery life is amazing. cm7 was good, but when i would actually use an app or play a game i could watch my battery life drop.. was ridiculous.
I gotta agree with ya, meXdroid rocks my face off. I dont understand how anyone could say it lags, cuz that rom SCREAMS on my phone. For the past two days i've been running Virtuous Fusion cuz....(drumroll please).... working Netflix!
Edit: most people that complain of lagging on meXdroid dont do a complete wipe that the OP clearly requires.
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I gotta agree with ya, meXdroid rocks my face off. I dont understand how anyone could say it lags, cuz that rom SCREAMS on my phone. For the past two days i've been running Virtuous Fusion cuz....(drumroll please).... working Netflix!
Edit: most people that complain of lagging on meXdroid dont do a complete wipe that the OP clearly requires.
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This right here.
Welcome to XDA! And yeah, ignore the people whining about grammar.
Never gave mexdroid a chance. That annoying ass startup sound was unreal. The bloody gore was a bit unnecessary also. I guess i'm not a typical guy in that i'm not into all that. Couldn't really give it a chance after that. Yes yes i know all that can be changed.
CM7 is the best imo, ONLY after you get rid of POOP launcher (adw). That launcher brings that rom down so far it's not even funny. ANY other launcher is better. Stock ginger launcher by eugene turns it into a powerhouse. What does adw stand for? Unadulterated Disastrous Waste?
People whining about grammar are not haters. They just understand that the world runs smoother with punctuation. It isn't that hard to hit period or comma. And as to the above comment about adw, really man? It runs buttery smooth on my desire z. It looks sleek and is easy to use. What is wrong with it?
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People whining about grammar are not haters. They just understand that the world runs smoother with punctuation. It isn't that hard to hit period or comma. And as to the above comment about adw, really man? It runs buttery smooth on my desire z. It looks sleek and is easy to use. What is wrong with it?
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ADW launcher is crap.
ADW ex, on the other hand, is a brilliant thing. the newest update's 3d drawer is hands down the best I have seen, basically looks and feels like the stock launcher (which was one of my biggest gripes with all of the custom launchers, their 3d drawers all blew... not anymore). of course, it's also not free.
different strokes for different folks... but mexdroid is fugly. looks like something a three year old would have fathomed after watching transformers.
(no offense to the dev of course, I appreciate every dev's work even if it's not my cup of tea)
also, op, you will find that fixing permissions will come in handy maybe once or twice the entire time you own your phone.. it is not the fix your phone button.
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People whining about grammar are not haters. They just understand that the world runs smoother with punctuation. It isn't that hard to hit period or comma. And as to the above comment about adw, really man? It runs buttery smooth on my desire z. It looks sleek and is easy to use. What is wrong with it?
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Not everyone's first language is English. I understand how it can be annoying, but chances are they're using a translator from the web and copying it over.
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ADW launcher is crap.
ADW ex, on the other hand, is a brilliant thing. the newest update's 3d drawer is hands down the best I have seen, basically looks and feels like the stock launcher (which was one of my biggest gripes with all of the custom launchers, their 3d drawers all blew... not anymore). of course, it's also not free.
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Are you talking about the Vertical 4D option or Vertical New?
pmcqueen said:
ADW launcher is crap.
ADW ex, on the other hand, is a brilliant thing. the newest update's 3d drawer is hands down the best I have seen, basically looks and feels like the stock launcher (which was one of my biggest gripes with all of the custom launchers, their 3d drawers all blew... not anymore). of course, it's also not free.
different strokes for different folks... but mexdroid is fugly. looks like something a three year old would have fathomed after watching transformers.
(no offense to the dev of course, I appreciate every dev's work even if it's not my cup of tea)
also, op, you will find that fixing permissions will come in handy maybe once or twice the entire time you own your phone.. it is not the fix your phone button.
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Ahhh, I forgot there was two adw's, I have been using adw ex for so long now is adw free really that horrid?
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Ahhh, I forgot there was two adw's, I have been using adw ex for so long now is adw free really that horrid?
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What does adw stand for? Unadulterated Disastrous Waste?
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where did the "un" come from? lol!
that said... the 4d app drawer in adw ex is simply gorgeous!
but i forgo that for zeam. zeam has the infinitely long dock which i'm kinda used to