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now that we have root is there a way to disable Htc sense
Patience! Roms are just around the corner I am sure. I know I am +1 on getting rid of the Sense crap. I hate it!
titos1997 said:
now that we have root is there a way to disable Htc sense
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You can't just disable sense, it IS the UI and for all intents (lol) and purposes, the OS. Vanilla Google Android 2.1 is a different kernel than Android HTC Sense 2.1, so it has to be replaced, lock stock and barrel. Go over and look at the Dream forums, the Sense&Espresso camp is quite different from the Donut, Eclair, Froyo camp. If you've ever used linux, the difference between Gnome distros and KDE distros is a pretty apt (lol) comparison. They can run each others' programs (usually), but they are built up from the kernel differently. So like the other dude said, just wait a sec
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Patience! Roms are just around the corner I am sure. I know I am +1 on getting rid of the Sense crap. I hate it!
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There's some serious work to be done unless we get some test keys. Don't think that customs ROMs will be coming within the next week.
You can start by using a different launcher. I like launcherpro from the market. Its really nice and fast compared to sense. Once you install a new launcher, make sure you set it as your default and then reboot your phone.
You can also remove a lot of sense apps while in recovery. Just be careful what you remove. Some things are needed or your phone will boot loop or you might get a mess if fc's upon rebooting. you might want to try just renaming them first to see if there is any bad side effect before actually removing it. You can also copy the apps you remove to your phone for backup purposes. Be careful 'cuz I am not responsible for you bricking your phone.
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So we basically we should just wait for a fresh 2.1 rom from one of our devs, Ill just sit here and twittle my thumbs in the mean time
If twiddling thumbs (as I am doing) isnt working for you, the other option is to become a developer. No better way to make things happen than to do it yourself! I dont have the time and patients to learn Android right now, it just isnt plausible....so I wait.
As far as the launcher goes, that isnt the portion of Sense I dont like. The launcher is usable. Its the OSK, the phone screens, etc. I tried the launchers, but it wasn't what I am after. I want a plain Jane Vanilla rom, like my Nexus had.
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If twiddling thumbs (as I am doing) isnt working for you, the other option is to become a developer. No better way to make things happen than to do it yourself! I dont have the time and patients to learn Android right now, it just isnt plausible....so I wait.
As far as the launcher goes, that isnt the portion of Sense I dont like. The launcher is usable. Its the OSK, the phone screens, etc. I tried the launchers, but it wasn't what I am after. I want a plain Jane Vanilla rom, like my Nexus had.
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I agree with you all I want is simple android 2.1 (or 2.2) without all the verizon crap they feel I need on my phone
Just use AWD or Launcher Pro... you won't see anything sense related using those unless you hunt for it.
if you think this is true, you have never used a vanilla rom. The phone, dialer screen, contact screen, etc are all still Sense (and junk to navigate and use). They are not related to launcher. I have used both Launcher Pro and ADW (not AWD) with the same result.
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if you think this is true, you have never used a vanilla rom. The phone, dialer screen, contact screen, etc are all still Sense (and junk to navigate and use). They are not related to launcher. I have used both Launcher Pro and ADW (not AWD) with the same result.
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I have used both.... and after giving sense a try and not listening to others.... I actually prefer it over vanilla... everything works better imo with better integration.
...and thats fine for you...but not really correct to say that a Launcher will remove the feel of Sense. There is enough room in this world for Coke AND Pepsi...as well both Vanilla and Sense roms
Cyanogen based ROMs are the best. Sense sucks ... IMO.
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I "replaced" my SenseUI with ADW, and it works great. I say "replaced" because by installing ADW or Launcher Pro, you're only replacing the UI part of Sense. Sense will still run underneath. Until custom ROMs come (which won't happen until we get an unlocked NAND), that's what we've got.
I am really looking forward to getting Froyo. I came from a Moto Droid where I had just recently installed Froyo, and it was so fast. I actually like the Incredible more because of the better screen and lighter feel with no keyboard, but the Droid was so much faster on Froyo it almost makes me want to go back until they get the Incredible figured out.
I think if you came from WinMo and are used to Sense then you will like it on Android. If not then most will hate it.
Not to clutter this post or change subject
I dont see you you can say the screen on the incredible is better. I have both and I still think the Moto droids screen is better higher res and easier to see in sunlight. again its my opinion.
Dont get me wrong they are very close in resolution but the Moto droid is slightly higher. Inside with no sun on them they are very close I'll give it that.
I am ready to root my Epic. Not sure where to begin though. Any suggestions? I have been using the Evo and I really love it. My best phone hands down prior to getting the Epic. I don't know if it is because it is newer, but I want to make the Epic my primary device.I like the Sense UI though(love those scrollable widgets). If I root the Epic will I be able to customize it and give it a more of a Sense feel that I am used to? Also, I know it is personal preference regarding which phone you use, especially with Android, but is there anything other than Sense (and Froyo for now) that I will lose going with the Epic over the Evo?
Thanks guys
I am new to this site, but I hear all the time about the cool stuff you guys do. So, I came here to get my hands dirty and really get into this thing called Android.
Well, I may not know much since I am new to Android, but I did get some hands on with The Epic and I didn't really like it. ( I own a Evo ) What I didn't like from the Epic was the UI. For me HTC Sense is way better. Aside from that, the Epic does not support FLASH at the moment. One of the other things you will miss out is the 8MP camera on the Evo. I don't know about you but I take a lot of pictures and that matters to me. Other than that I can't really think of anything else.
Well i came from the hero which has sense, and my dad has the evo, so i am really familiar with sense ui. Sense ui is very visually appealing and i liked it very much. You can get a lot of the look and feel of sense by using beautiful widgets, which has the htc flip clock and weather animations. If u want sense ui lock screen get widget locker. Some great things about touchwiz are that u can toggle 4g wifi bluetooth from the notification pull down. Launcher pro plus has some sense style scrollable widgets as well. if u wanna see what my epic looks like with these apps u can see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=771597&page=3 and scroll to my post. Try out the epic and hopefully u will like it, roms are coming soon too.
Hey,
Thanks for replying. I hear what you are saying. And it is really a tough decision. I would keep both and then switch it up every now and then. I just paid for the Epic, it only cost me 200 at Best buy, but I also just bought the 360 Halo Reach Edition, so I have to get some of that back somewhere.I will miss Sense and Froyo, but hopefully, one day soon the Epic will get Froyo. As far as the pictures go, I am finding that I am becoming preferable to the Epic's camera over the Evo, especially for video recording.
yes I love those toggles in the notification bar. Personally, I don't mind Touchwiz all that much. Yea, iot is coloirful and everything, but they have some real good things regarding user interface going on there. If I can get some of those scollable widgets, like sense's news widget, the weather/clock widget with animation, I would be good. What about root? Are there some good ROM's out there for the Epic, that will make it worth the risk?
Thanks guys
That' s sweet. Is that the Epic?
Moved over from the Droid X (where I had been running Apex). I'm pretty excited to have a nice smaller form factor (only complaint if any is that the screen isn't as bright as the X).
Where should I start looking to play with this? Im sure it will take me a while to catch up on what's happening in INC world.
Custom software. Coming from the Droid X, this is the real advantage of the Incredible in my opinion. I don't know how far you got into rooting, etc., with your DX, but if you hit that point of running into the bootloader, you're free
I'd suggest Cyanogen or MIUI if you want to run AOSP.
If you want to run Sense, Lou's Redemptive Revolution is fantastic, as is Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo.
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Moved over from the Droid X (where I had been running Apex). I'm pretty excited to have a nice smaller form factor (only complaint if any is that the screen isn't as bright as the X).
Where should I start looking to play with this? Im sure it will take me a while to catch up on what's happening in INC world.
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If you haven't done so already, rooting is always good
Unrevoked makes it painless, just follow all the instructions exactly
Then I'm assuming you'll want a custom ROM...
There are 3 basic categories of Sense ROMs, Inc, Evo, and Z. Inc is based on the Incredible code, Evo is based on the Evo code, and Z is based on the Desire Z code. Functionally there isn't too big a difference between Evo and Inc ROMs, just be sure to get the Incredible port of a ROM if it was originally an Evo ROM. Z ROMs, however, have the new Sense interface, with native theme support, sound sets, etc. However, in the Z ROMs 720p video recording doesn't work, and they're generally slightly less stable than Inc/Evo ROMs. They are usually stable enough for daily use though, and offer the most features. From your Droid X experience, you probably know about a lot of the AOSP ROMs (CyanogenMod and the like) but the Incredible has some noteworthy ones, namely MIUI (iPhone and Android made babies) and the Liquid Metal ROM (port of the Acer Liquid Metal UI).
Have fun with your Incredible
Ah nice starter info guys thanks a lot! Flashing process the same to get back to stock like the X was with SFBs or this a different process now (could also be done with clockwork).
Also remember that you probably have an SLCD display vs. the original AMOLED displays. Although the rooting process is the same, kernels are different. Check my sig and a few of my previous posts for more explanation on this.
In a nutshell some of the kernels do not have the SLCD drivers, so everytime you flash a rom you are going to have to flash the appropriate kernel.
Cheers and welcome.
SLCD yes I have a issue with it and I have to be careful of what kernel is baked in since some of the baked in kernels will not let my phone boot! I always use Invisiblek #28/#34 for ASOP roms and I like Lous Kernels other roms!
r3dlined said:
Moved over from the Droid X (where I had been running Apex). I'm pretty excited to have a nice smaller form factor (only complaint if any is that the screen isn't as bright as the X).
Where should I start looking to play with this? Im sure it will take me a while to catch up on what's happening in INC world.
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This may sound like a stupid question but, have you turned off the automatic brightness and changing it manually? When I manually turn my brightness all the way up, I can barely stand to look at it.
No I have the brightness cranked up. It's quite a bit darker than the X screen.
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This may sound like a stupid question but, have you turned off the automatic brightness and changing it manually? When I manually turn my brightness all the way up, I can barely stand to look at it.
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Easy to unbrick these phones with an SFB like the X if it did crash and burn?
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No I have the brightness cranked up. It's quite a bit darker than the X screen.
Easy to unbrick these phones with an SFB like the X if it did crash and burn?
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Wow! Maybe there is something wrong with it. Have you checked it against another Incredible?
This is an amoLED version and I have an SLCD one that should be here Wed. I did look at one in the store and put it side by side to the X there as well. Not a HUGE brightness difference. Maybe my eyes are just burn out lol.
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Wow! Maybe there is something wrong with it. Have you checked it against another Incredible?
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welcome to the world of Incredible. most recent greatness is CM7
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welcome to the world of Incredible. most recent greatness is CM7
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Thanks. I haven't dived into any ROMs just yet, but certainly plan to. I'm trying to navigate around the very small differences coming form the X that I miss (mostly having to do with the address book).
Wow this is a little intimidating coming from just loading a zip file with clockwork. I better get my reading on.
I have a feeling you will like the incredible much better than the X. The most notable difference is that the bootloader is unlocked so you can change the kernel. There are many very nice roms for this phone, the most notable ones I've tried being CyanogenMod 6 and 7, Myn's Warm TwoPointTwo, and Skyraider. I haven't tried any of the others but I'm sure they are of the same quality I've came to expect.
I went the other way. It was soooooooo much smoother/easier to flash roms on an Inc. I mostly used miui and miss it BAD. I love the DX size but miss the options available with the Inc.
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ASOP LiquidMetal
Only thing I don't like so far, though CM7 is sick, is ASOP camera not doing widescreen
Cool thats really awesome
http://t3hh4xx0r.com
Check this site out for pure gingerbread and a fully custom version
Also go to irc for 24/7 support
HTC Incredible OMFGB 2.3.2
Ugh now I have both amoled and slcd. Dunno which one I wanna keep ugh. I like both screens for different reasons.
Anyone with both Motoblur experience care to give their opinions, maybe a pro / con thing. It's the only aspect that has me a bit concerned as I am loving Sense right now.
I'm interested in this as well. TouchWiz was criticized by many people before I got my Captivate, but it turned out not to be that bad.
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Anyone with both Motoblur experience care to give their opinions, maybe a pro / con thing. It's the only aspect that has me a bit concerned as I am loving Sense right now.
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I have limited experience with Motoblur on the Dext but it's pretty good. Not as pretty as SenseUI on your Desire Z but I'm sure the new version on the Atrix will be improved.
I actually find Sense to be the worst. I'd prefer Motorola realize that nobody actually likes Motoblur, but they seem quite adamant to keeping it. It looks like Motoblur on the Atrix and the Bionic will look significantly different from either variation of Motoblur we've seen on phones so far.
I've not used Motoblur either but from what I have read and seen(in video) about it was that its really slow
but the Atrix running with the 1Gb of RAM and Dual-Core processor and from what I've seen on the videos it looks pretty fast.
Also what people don't like is the "crapware" you will get on it that you won't be able to remove and some other UI tweaks that may or may not be of use for your needs that you may or may not find annoying.
It looks like MotoBlur, especially the more recent versions, is much less obtrusive that most other custom UIs. They don't muck about too much with the core apps, and most of the UI is actually just a bunch of widgets that can be turned off if you want. If the launcher really bothers you, you can always replace it with one of the many available options in the Market.
I absolutely HATED Sense when I had it because of the cartoonish UI and how much the core apps get changed (for the worse). But MotoBlur seems to be much more manageable.
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It looks like MotoBlur, especially the more recent versions, is much less obtrusive that most other custom UIs. They don't muck about too much with the core apps, and most of the UI is actually just a bunch of widgets that can be turned off if you want. If the launcher really bothers you, you can always replace it with one of the many available options in the Market.
I absolutely HATED Sense when I had it because of the cartoonish UI and how much the core apps get changed (for the worse). But MotoBlur seems to be much more manageable.
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That's always been my impression as well. If Blur can be turned off (by using a different launcher, and they don't mess with core apps), then who the hell cares? Sense is immersed. It's just over looked because HTC phones are pretty easy to flash.
I have used the Moto Blur interface on a few different devices now. I can say that it is not horrible in terms of functionality. But it looks ugly and unfinished, and due to lack of polish looks like something that belongs on a child's phone.
That being said, it's nothing that a different launcher cannot fix. Motorola didn't really mess with the app interfaces too much, save for contacts and the phone dialer, it's mostly the home screen and launch bar they changed. I always used launcher pro and this took away the "ugliness".
I also like some of the moto blur features such as the phone locator (cannot remember exactly what they call it atm.)
If they have not polished how moto blur looks on the atrix, I will be using a different launcher for sure.
I have a Captivate and my boss has a DroidX. Whenever I have to use his phone to help him out, I really dont like Blur.
But i'm not an everyday user of it, so maybe its something that you can get used to, or just load launcher pro.
I like Sense and thank goodness because it is full integrated. If Blur is deeply integrated I sure hope it's good. Motorola's website doesn't really go deep enough but I guess right now it's all speculation.
i have yet to use a moto phone with it .. only messed with a few friends phones .. didnt care for it to much ... once the phone is released tho because of the specs i am seriously considering getting it ... if you can replace it with a different, then i will do just that.
I used the bravo found motor blur to be interesting and liked it.
MotoBlur in the past has been horrible because the hardware couldn't support all the shiny graphics. With the atrix, it flies, and is pretty cool. I'll probably still use launcher pro (which i suggest to anyone that doesn't like the skinned themes), mostly to just use as little ram as possible. MotoBlur is great if your a social network fiend, or really have to stay connected all the time.
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MotoBlur in the past has been horrible because the hardware couldn't support all the shiny graphics. With the atrix, it flies, and is pretty cool. I'll probably still use launcher pro (which i suggest to anyone that doesn't like the skinned themes), mostly to just use as little ram as possible. MotoBlur is great if your a social network fiend, or really have to stay connected all the time.
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What I love about Motoblur is that you don't have to have all those widgets if you don't want to, and you don't have to add all your social network accounts if you don't want to. Everything is optional more or less. And beyond those optional add-ons, they do relatively little tweaking to the underlying OS. This is in contrast to Sense which is there whether you want it or not, and makes major changes to the UI and functionality.
I'll probably end up using Launcher Pro as well. However you can still use the Motoblur widgets on LP if you want, which is a nice advantage. There are still some issues with resizing Motoblur widgets in LP, but hopefully the developer will get those taken care of soon.
The only complaint about Blur that I've heard is that it is a resource hog. It gives you push notifications for all your social networking needs. I think the Atrix is where we'll see Blur not be a hindrance. Plus, if you don't like it, wait for a vanilla Rom and flash it. The Atrix is going to be a winner either way!
......and people are right, Moto Blur is a cluster****.
I am not too tech savvy, but not a dummy either.
Suggestions and tips on rooting would be great.
Meanwhile, I will keep digging around this site, I am sure the answers are somewhere here, but there is so much info......
Try "gladroot"
JRSOne said:
......and people are right, Moto Blur is a cluster****.
I am not too tech savvy, but not a dummy either.
Suggestions and tips on rooting would be great.
Meanwhile, I will keep digging around this site, I am sure the answers are somewhere here, but there is so much info......
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I just rooted my atrix last night with "gladroot". http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12540398
Before you root, install Motorola driver first. Nobody didn't mention about it until later and it took me for a while to troubleshoot. As long as you read and follow the instructions, it's not difficult.
http://briefmobile.com/motorola-atrix-4g-root
JRSOne said:
I am not too tech savvy, but not a dummy either.
Suggestions and tips on rooting would be great.
Meanwhile, I will keep digging around this site, I am sure the answers are somewhere here, but there is so much info......
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Don't have to dig far!
Rooting for dummies is on the 1st floor! LOL
Thanks a lot, very nice.
3GS -> Atrix
JRSOne said:
......and people are right, Moto Blur is a cluster****.
I am not too tech savvy, but not a dummy either.
Suggestions and tips on rooting would be great.
Meanwhile, I will keep digging around this site, I am sure the answers are somewhere here, but there is so much info......
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I just made the same switch last week (3GS -> Atrix). Agree that MotoBlur sux and it's also been painful syncing contacts and calendar from my work's Outlook (going through Google isn't an option)
One reason I made the switch was for the less restrictive Android OS. However if you're on version 1.57, it looks like you have to take a few steps backwards to get ahead (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12540398). Looks like I'll have to set aside some time to play...
JRSOne said:
......and people are right, Moto Blur is a cluster****.
I am not too tech savvy, but not a dummy either.
Suggestions and tips on rooting would be great.
Meanwhile, I will keep digging around this site, I am sure the answers are somewhere here, but there is so much info......
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Get adw launcher and use titanium backup to freeze blur. Fixes that problem right up. On the other hand, try running gingerblur which has a clean UI and runs quite smooth. It also removes a ton of other bloatware on the phone. Everything except adw launcher requires root of course.
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I don't understand why ppl say "blur sucks"....I like BLUR, it's very useful with all that widgets to have all your Social Networks quickly in one hand.
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I don't understand why ppl say "blur sucks"....I like BLUR, it's very useful with all that widgets to have all your Social Networks quickly in one hand.
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Blur USED to suck, past tense. It doesn't suck too badly anymore. And I can't see why a new user would say it sucks when they have no experience. This is just a blind statement.
I'm very picky with my launchers and if I could tweak Blur to look better and purge a few things I don't use, it actually wouldn't be very bad at all. But I like that with the other launchers I can personally tweak them precisely to my preference.
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Blur USED to suck, past tense. It doesn't suck too badly anymore. And I can't see why a new user would say it sucks when they have no experience. This is just a blind statement.
I'm very picky with my launchers and if I could tweak Blur to look better and purge a few things I don't use, it actually wouldn't be very bad at all. But I like that with the other launchers I can personally tweak them precisely to my preference.
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BLUR sucks.
Exchange 2003 notifications are broken.
Unified Inbox doesn't include GMail. (that's a hurr durr right there)
Duplicate functionality of what already exists (Social Networking, Accounts, Corporate Sync)
I don't mind the homescreen/launcher.
My biggest complaint with blur is simply the lag when switching home screens and bringing up the full list of apps. And that you can't change anything on the dock. And the widgets are ugly. Oh wait...that's pretty much everything that blur does I hate...
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I am saying it sucks because I am comparing it to my iphone. I can't express how much cleaner, simplier and user friendly the 3GS is compared to blur.
I certainly hope that other Android phones are not this bad.
If I can't find a better OS that works for me, I will simply get an iphone 4. I guess I was spoiled.
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I am saying it sucks because I am comparing it to my iphone. I can't express how much cleaner, simplier and user friendly the 3GS is compared to blur.
I certainly hope that other Android phones are not this bad.
If I can't find a better OS that works for me, I will simply get an iphone 4. I guess I was spoiled.
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You mean the interface that is the exact same for everyone? The iPhone was made to be simpler. It's so everyone can use it. If you like being coddled by Apple, return the Atrix and get your i4.
It's up to you. WebOS is rising, WP7, BBOS (not as popular). Your pick, dude. Like I said, the iOS devices are made so that even a monkey could pick one up and work it like a pro.
If you're not going to take the time to tweak your device to your liking, go with iOS.
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I am saying it sucks because I am comparing it to my iphone. I can't express how much cleaner, simplier and user friendly the 3GS is compared to blur.
I certainly hope that other Android phones are not this bad.
If I can't find a better OS that works for me, I will simply get an iphone 4. I guess I was spoiled.
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Yep. The other androids are not that bad. The original froyo has a cleaner and faster approach than motoblur. Motoblur by far is the worst UI-skin you can possibly have.
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Yep. The other androids are not that bad. The original froyo has a cleaner and faster approach than motoblur. Motoblur by far is the worst UI-skin you can possibly have.
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Have you ever tried TouchWiz? the iPhone wanna-be? Sense is decent, but Blur is one of the closest manufacture's skins to Vanilla Android.
Also, your opinion on Blur is your own. Many people love and use Blur, and many people do not. Just because you say it's the worst, does not make it so.
I advise you to try out all the other different interfaces, and tell me Blur is the complete and total worst you have ever tried.
What about the newer blur on the droid x?
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PixoNova said:
Have you ever tried TouchWiz? the iPhone wanna-be? Sense is decent, but Blur is one of the closest manufacture's skins to Vanilla Android.
Also, your opinion on Blur is your own. Many people love and use Blur, and many people do not. Just because you say it's the worst, does not make it so.
I advise you to try out all the other different interfaces, and tell me Blur is the complete and total worst you have ever tried.
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Lol. It was obviously an opinion. I did not in any way said im representing the whole android community duh.
I have tried touchwiz, sense and the LG UI already. And of course i've also tried the original android stock UI.
I kinda want to know what people doesn't like on motoblur. The panels? You can empty all of them and end up with 7 panels on witch you can put whatever icons, shorcuts, widgets (and so on) you like. I'm coming from sense but I can customize the motoblur to look just as good. Don't feel like using launcher pro and already uninstalled regina 3D and adw. I woulg probably give a spb a try if they would have a trial.
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JRSOne said:
I am saying it sucks because I am comparing it to my iphone. I can't express how much cleaner, simplier and user friendly the 3GS is compared to blur.
I certainly hope that other Android phones are not this bad.
If I can't find a better OS that works for me, I will simply get an iphone 4. I guess I was spoiled.
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I'm also coming from an iPhone, and here are some things I think are superior on the Atrix (and Android) to the iPhone (and iOS):
1. Non-intrusive notifications! I hated how on the iPhone, notifications pop up as dialogs that have to be closed. Sometimes you're doing something important, and you get a text message which pops up right in the middle of the screen. Irritating! I like how you can slide down the top bar when you want and it shows you your notifications.
2. Notification LED. It's great to be able to tell that you have messages or a missed call without having to turn on the screen.
3. Four hardware buttons instead of just one. After you've used the phone awhile, you'll realize how useful a back button and a menu button can be. You have to switch back to home less than you do with an iPhone. Also, hold down your home button and shortcuts to your last 8 used apps will appear.
4. Every application must advertise what features of your phone it has access to in the Manage Applications settings pages. So if an app can read and write to your contact data, it says so in the settings. On the iPhone, you have to rely on Apple to make sure all apps are doing what they're supposed to. Worse, if you get apps from Cydia, well then you're completely on your own.
5. You have 15 minutes to get a refund if you buy something from the Android Market. That's a pretty short time if you have to download a big application, but better that than no refunds at all.
6. Having the option to use an external micro-SD card is pretty nice.
7. Unlike the iPhone, the home screen and the app drawer are two separate things. It's nice to have widgets to customize your home screens.
8. For obvious reasons, Android versions of Google applications tend to have more features on Android than on the iPhone. For example, Maps has that cool 3D compass view, instead of the regular "up is North" top-down view. It also has a Street View add-on which is pretty neat and works quite well.
9. GPS seems faster and more precise on my Atrix than on my iPhone (and my friend's iPhone 4). I've heard others say the opposite with respect to the iPhone 4, so maybe it depends on where in the world you are.
10. For Bell users (ATT users have to pay I think?), Mobile wifi hotspot works great. I've tried tethering my Macbook Pro to the phone via wifi, and it works really well.
11. There's a basic data counter built in, which shows you how much data you're using, and by which apps.
12. There's a pretty decent Battery Manager built in, which shows very clearly what percentage of your used battery was used by each phone function, or application.
13. It comes with Swype as an alternate input system to the virtual keyboard, but you're free to install other 3rd party input methods if you like (there are quite a few).
Well, I don't know if I missed anything, but for the most part, these are the things that impressed me the most after using the Atrix for a couple weeks. I'm very happy I moved to the Atrix, but that's not to say that I hate the iPhone. I still like it, it has a very polished feel and the best screen in the business. And after all, it was the breakthrough smart phone when it first came out. There are just a few things that I think they really need to improve (notifications!).
slimslim said:
I kinda want to know what people doesn't like on motoblur.
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I liked some of the features of Motoblur, like having the Manage Applications settings right in the menu of your homescreens. Very useful. Some of the widgets are nice too. My major complaint is that Motoblur is so choppy when scrolling around! That's unacceptable for a high-end phone, in my opinion.
PixoNova said:
the iOS devices are made so that even a monkey could pick one up and work it like a pro.
If you're not going to take the time to tweak your device to your liking, go with iOS.
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+1 this is the reason why people think that iphone its a ladies phone. its easy to use, no customizable and very locked device, like you say XD even a monkey can work on it like a pro