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I asked the police today about the legality of tracking etc your phone if stolen using wavesecure or similar in the UK.
The particular officer seemed to think it should not be a problem since it is your property and regardless of who's possession it's in you are allowed to track it.
The legality however of tracking its use is uncertain, their calls, SMS etc, but again, since the phoone is yours, it should not be a problem.
They are going to get in touch with me should further details arise.
It's good to know though that as long as one doesn't attempt to take the law into their own hands, you are ok with tracking your stolen phone and should, technically be able to use this data collected as evidence against the thief should you find yourself able to track them this way.
I don't know if this information is of use to anybody but I thought I would share what I discovered today.
Just because you own a webcamera for instance, doesn't make it okay to stick it into someones house and record their activities does it?
Tracking your phone, no problems at all with that. But i don't think you have any right to read their SMS, Calls. Its a touchy subject.
Just thought i'd add this to your post.
cymru said:
Just because you own a webcamera for instance, doesn't make it okay to stick it into someones house and record their activities does it?
Tracking your phone, no problems at all with that. But i don't think you have any right to read their SMS, Calls. Its a touchy subject.
Just thought i'd add this to your post.
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No, but if they steal your webcam and it happens to be set up to record all activity around it (normally related to yourself) had it not been illegally removed from its original location, you're not to blame nor at fault should it keep recording wherever they leave it, and then provide this as evidence to the police in order to recover said stolen item.
Fair point. to be honest i'm just arguing for the sake of it. Im very bored.
Why not.
Well, we could argue technicalities, my mrs is a lawyer so I'm sure she would argue it out with me all day long about how their are laws against it, but to be fair, I think the law would take your side regardless, and you could even have it permitted on a technicality (i.e. that the server is set up to automatically back up all your data, contacts and SMS for your own data security, should someone elses end up there through illegally obtaining and using your device, that's through no fault of yours.)
Yeah fair play, I know what you mean. Even if its your phone and gets stolen i've no doubt any defence will pick holes in why you were able to have access to their personal information. We all know how good the justice system can be in our country sometimes.
It's true, it's always possible you could end up wit hthe wrong persons data and instead end up with some silly sod who bought a cheap stolen phone off someone (equally as guilty i'd say, but that's a different argument), but that is why the services such as Wavesecure offer options to simply disable the phone and prompt the (new) user to call one of your preset "buddies" or 999 (or any other message/number you care to give them) in order to return the phone.
Normally though I would suggest this would be a last resort, because a thief would probably just dispose of the phone or destroy it if they find it locked as such.
You could always track it down yourself and make a citizens arrest ;-)
Section 24A of PACE '84 :-D
^Don't really do this
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Indeed, it would be perfectly legal to make a Citizen's arrest under those circumstances, however, to stereotype the nature of such a person that is likely to steal a mobile phone, particularly from the area in which I live, it is quite possible and somewhat likely that they are either A) a violent criminal (mugging), B) A drug abuser (mugging) or C) Just outright violent (any other person).
P.S. The moral is that it's not a good idea to try go after it yourself, you might get hurt, or worse......your phone might.
I was literally typing 'Are you from liverpool?' when i read your location on the right
Best leave well alone lol. Let your phone be the only Hero in your partnership.
Indeed
I personally am from the Wirral, but I work and study in Liverpool, and as anyone from Liverpool will tell you, we from the Wirral are considered stuck up c**ts and to us, Liverpudlians are violent criminals, personally, my mrs is from Liverpool, maybe I just want to have a hard life
But anyway, should my phone get stolen, no doubt someone would try sell it to her sooner or later.
A) Just phone your local police and give them the location of the thief and phone, they would love the easy collar.
B) Thieves rights? don't make me laugh. If someone nicks my camera they don't have any rights to the photo's on it when I recover it. I would be more than happy to photograph their cuts and bruises as I use "reasonable force" to excecute my citizens arrest and send them to them.
C) If they do send sms from your phone, just note down the numbers and pass them on to the police too, chances are they are thieving smackheads too so might be able to arrest more!
mantracom said:
A) Just phone your local police and give them the location of the thief and phone, they would love the easy collar.
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yeah sure...
"my phone is somewhere in a 600m circle around main street 145, can you get it for me?"
"absolutely sir, two S.W.A.T. teams are already on their way!"
lol kendon Good one!
As for the issue itself, I wonder how this would go in a country with slightly more relaxed laws (US for example). There, I can really see issues where someone jumps in their pickup with their 'shooting club buddy', tracks their stolen phone using a laptop etc. from the passenger seat, and go setting about making use of the second amendment (click here if you don't happen to know amendments to the US constitution off by heart like me) on the thief (or unsuspecting buyer of the stolen goods).
To be honest, I'd have little sympathy for the thief in that case, regardless of how outnumbered they were. If you steal, you really do deserve what you get. What happened to the concept of an outlaw, where the law affords them no protection from others due to their disrespect of it?
^BTW, don't go doing that just cos you saw it here.
And, for the record, I'm actually from Britain, so maybe a pickup wouldn't be used...
alias_neo said:
Indeed, it would be perfectly legal to make a Citizen's arrest under those circumstances, however, to stereotype the nature of such a person that is likely to steal a mobile phone, particularly from the area in which I live, it is quite possible and somewhat likely that they are either A) a violent criminal (mugging), B) A drug abuser (mugging) or C) Just outright violent (any other person).
P.S. The moral is that it's not a good idea to try go after it yourself, you might get hurt, or worse......your phone might.
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hahahaha "or worse your phone might"
cymru said:
I was literally typing 'Are you from liverpool?' when i read your location on the right
Best leave well alone lol. Let your phone be the only Hero in your partnership.
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yeah sure...
"my phone is somewhere in a 600m circle around main street 145, can you get it for me?"
"absolutely sir, two S.W.A.T. teams are already on their way!"
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LOL! This thread just made my day
Anyway, let's just hope you never have to use Wavesecure.
http://business-news.thestreet.com/...a/667729680-new-gov-t-rules-allow-unapproved/
http://www.loc.gov/today/pr/2010/10-169.html
That's not going to change anything...There might be more companies that unlock phones, but providers can still lock their devices, and they still have the right to void the warranty after a device has been unlocked...
I guess a good step though.
Also prohibited is technically impede access to the user in the software core of the
chris_knows said:
That's not going to change anything...There might be more companies that unlock phones, but providers can still lock their devices, and they still have the right to void the warranty after a device has been unlocked...
I guess a good step though.
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Also prohibited is technically impede access to the user in the software core of the device, and block the changes.
www.gizmodo.com/5596671/why-legal-iphone-unlocking-and-jailbreaking-doesnt-matter-that-much
Now they don't fear it.
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www.gizmodo.com/5596671/why-legal-iphone-unlocking-and-jailbreaking-doesnt-matter-that-much
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Although I understand the gist of this article. I still have to say that making it legal opens a lot more doors.
I know a few "programmers" that don't touch "illegal" things like jailbreaking cause of fear. Now they don't fear it.
I'm sure many others will feel relieved and will start working on this to make it better, simpler, and maybe discover new methods.
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Although I understand the gist of this article. I still have to say that making it legal opens a lot more doors.
I know a few "programmers" that don't touch "illegal" things like jailbreaking cause of fear. Now they don't fear it.
I'm sure many others will feel relieved and will start working on this to make it better, simpler, and maybe discover new methods.
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I totally agree with that...
Cell phone companies will always find another way to screw you, though haha.
I've tried every app on the market with no luck, and have read that the software doesn't allow for that function. Is this true, and is there a work-around?
That's actually illegal in some states, which is probably why no one is willing to create an app. It could leave them liable.
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UrbanBounca said:
That's actually illegal in some states, which is probably why no one is willing to create an app. It could leave them liable.
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I'm not disputing the legality but it seems odd that my old samsung Delve (alltel) and older lg AX8600 (alltel) had native in call recording software available right out of the store.
toysturnaseraphim said:
I've tried every app on the market with no luck, and have read that the software doesn't allow for that function. Is this true, and is there a work-around?
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Tossabledigits claims to have this capability. Hope this helps.
UrbanBounca said:
That's actually illegal in some states, which is probably why no one is willing to create an app. It could leave them liable.
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Federal law allows recording of phone calls and other electronic communications with the consent of at least one party to the call.
With the person recording the call being one of the two parties, that makes it legal. State laws cannot supersede any Federal law, therefore, recording calls is 100% legal.
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That's actually illegal in some states, which is probably why no one is willing to create an app. It could leave them liable.
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With all due respect, you are partially incorrect. Additionally, Droids are not exclusive to the U S of A.
Moreover, there does exist apps catering to this niche. Besides the aforementioned software, Supertintin records both audio and video.
Just because something is borderline unethical (another way to say CREEPY) doesn't make it (most of the time) illegal.
For what its worth, knowing that someone is recording my phone call is like discovering the person I had been kissing had their eyes opened the entire time and was probably even starring at me. In legal-ease, "Ewwww!"
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With all due respect, you are partially incorrect. Additionally, Droids are not exclusive to the U S of A.
Moreover, there does exist apps catering to this niche. Besides the aforementioned software, Supertintin records both audio and video.
Just because something is borderline unethical (another way to say CREEPY) doesn't make it (most of the time) illegal.
For what its worth, knowing that someone is recording my phone call is like discovering the person I had been kissing had their eyes opened the entire time and was probably even starring at me. In legal-ease, "Ewwww!"
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Just for the record, there are completely legitimate reasons for recording a phone call, wherein both parties can be made aware of the recording. Example: I drive for work, sometimes good distances. I often get phone calls with addresses, dimensions, part descriptions, supply lists, etc. Being able to record the call would be nice, instead of having to remember the stuff until I get to my destination.
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Just for the record, there are completely legitimate reasons for recording a phone call, wherein both parties can be made aware of the recording. Example: I drive for work, sometimes good distances. I often get phone calls with addresses, dimensions, part descriptions, supply lists, etc. Being able to record the call would be nice, instead of having to remember the stuff until I get to my destination.
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The intent of my reply: informative, gentle ribbing with light-hearted banter.
Of course there exists valid and good faith reasons for this service.
Btw, don't take my sig too seriously as well. My D2 is not marginally bricked.
Cheers!
p.s. Nice guys do finish first.
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It's also illegal in Illinois without both parties consenting. Just try to record a cop without telling him while they're trying to arrest you and watch how hot the water you get into becomes.
Let's keep this between ourselves: I went to law school, although I did not take the bar exam. So, I'm not completely in the dark regarding legal issues--not just a pretty face.
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I always laugh and at the same time die a little inside when I read such cowardly posts such as "it might be illegal somewhere so I won't tell you!"
You may as well do nothing, ever, because those in power will always try to make everything illegal. (And have already made most everything illegal). Sorry to inform the most boot-licking among you, but you've broken laws uninetntionally. That is the problem with laws that infringe on personal freedoms.
Also, when you mention states where it is illegal you should also encourage those who live in such states and care about freedom to challenge those laws because those laws are superseded by... oh... I don't know... this little long-forgotten thing called the constitution?
Really, if you are in one of those states and using it for legitimate purposes I'm sure the EFF would back you. It's just a matter of how far you're willing to go for your own freedoms.
/rant
One solution: create a google voice account, set it to do not disturb, disable call screening and add a blank greeting (or a personal one for your number that says "recording started" or something.
Then, when in a call, hit add call, and call your google voice number.
The 3 way call will result in a nicely transcribed voice message stored in your google voice account, and viewable from your droid. this will also likely be better quality, since sometimes call recording apps can be choppy.
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Hi all,
I just got off the phone with Google support... I phoned them because my nexus definitely has heat issues when I fire up need for speed it gets like a furnace...
When I was on the phone though they told me the warranty was void as it had been rooted (<3 TB)... how can they tell?
Does this mean my nexus is permanently ear marked?
Thanks.
Did they ask you to read out any info from the about screen?
juDGEY2k10 said:
Did they ask you to read out any info from the about screen?
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Serial number...
But surely they can't just remote onto device like that. probably in the T&C. FML.
dont know mate was it new when u got it?
If not just tell them nope i dont know what your talking about, root wtf is root???
juDGEY2k10 said:
dont know mate was it new when u got it?
If not just tell them nope i dont know what your talking about, root wtf is root???
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Yeah brand new. Straight from Gplay.
That's exactly what I did... still wouldn't process repair or anything sent me Samsung contact details for out of warranty repair. :S
Keep calling mate say they are wrong, keep at it mate just say i want to talk to a manager bla bla, keep pushing them
That's really strange. If they don't budge then contact Samsung directly using the contact info in the warranty that shipped with the phone for a warranty repair or replacement.
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Yeah brand new. Straight from Gplay.
That's exactly what I did... still wouldn't process repair or anything sent me Samsung contact details for out of warranty repair. :S
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I'm new to all this stuff so PLEASE do not do anything based on my flimsy idea, ... just thought it might help send you down a different thought/investigative path.
I installed a toolkit that had a re-lock and un-root option thinking that if I ever got into a similar warranty situation, I would just kinda go "backwards in time" and after using TWRP to backup my tablet, do a full factory wipe, and re-lock then un-root (or whichever comes first) THEN report the problem.:fingers-crossed:
You may have let the cat out of the bag by calling first though
It seems you need to find out how they know,erase the evidence,re-lock un-root and then as juDGEY2k10 says- DENY DENY DENY- you know, like "Dexter" does:laugh: .
But wada I know. Keep us posted on your progress.
Im no expert but I don't see how they can tell unless when you get new apps or update apps from the play store they pulling information from the units. Hopefully they arent doing that.
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I have never seen root voiding warranty of a nexus device before, even though it says so.
I've noticed their bug report tool, built in, attempts to call su, so perhaps they do check now.
I'd prefer to see a root method where the app hides the binary under a unique name so they can't call it to find out.
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If Google is doing that, hopefully they won't share that info with manufacturers.
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problaze said:
Hi all,
I just got off the phone with Google support... I phoned them because my nexus definitely has heat issues when I fire up need for speed it gets like a furnace...
When I was on the phone though they told me the warranty was void as it had been rooted (<3 TB)... how can they tell?
Does this mean my nexus is permanently ear marked?
Thanks.
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Let's assume what the OP is saying is true, which it probably isn't. Many states provide additional consumer protection, even if there was a clause in the warranty which reduces your rights. (There is no clause which explicitly removes your right to root in the Nexus 10 warranty, but IANAL.)
The manufacturer is still responsible for physical defects.
However, I cannot imagine that someone would call Google and receive that answer and not be angry, mentioning the rep by name he talked to, and asking to make sure that the rep's claim was accurate.
Perhaps the OP is not telling the whole story, (e.g. he called and proclaimed that he was an advanced user, gave the rep attitude, rep came back with "oh yeah well you're rooted, we don't have to support you". Anyone who has done customer service or help desk knows what I'm talking about.) or just plain making the whole thing up, since I have never heard of any company refusing to service a rooted device unless there was a problem user with multiple returns.
I do acknowledge that the OP may not be full of crap, but if that is the case, I strongly advise OP not to take what a single rep said as gospel and keep calling back and asking for a supervisor until it's resolved.
However, there's another issue:
If the OP rooted, installed a custom kernel, found his device ran too hot, then called Google complaining without first reverting to stock and testing to make sure it wasn't the custom kernel causing the overheating, the OP's brain is the thing needing a warranty exchange.
I contacted Google about my nexus 10 dropping wifi randomly a few days ago.
The guy who I spoke to was quite nice and told me to do a factory reset. I told him I had already done that and I had also tried CM10, AOKP as some people have said that fixes any kernel/rom issues and I said the problem remains on everything I do so it had to be the device.
I was offered a refund outside the 15 day period and I chose a replacement which was shipped today.
If I spoke to someone who said that they couldn't help me because I'm rooted, I'd hang up and try again. Although if you are having problems a full restore to stock will be helpful if you ring up and speak to them.
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Let's assume what the OP is saying is true, which it probably isn't. Many states provide additional consumer protection, even if there was a clause in the warranty which reduces your rights. (There is no clause which explicitly removes your right to root in the Nexus 10 warranty, but IANAL.)
The manufacturer is still responsible for physical defects.
However, I cannot imagine that someone would call Google and receive that answer and not be angry, mentioning the rep by name he talked to, and asking to make sure that the rep's claim was accurate.
Perhaps the OP is not telling the whole story, (e.g. he called and proclaimed that he was an advanced user, gave the rep attitude, rep came back with "oh yeah well you're rooted, we don't have to support you". Anyone who has done customer service or help desk knows what I'm talking about.) or just plain making the whole thing up, since I have never heard of any company refusing to service a rooted device unless there was a problem user with multiple returns.
I do acknowledge that the OP may not be full of crap, but if that is the case, I strongly advise OP not to take what a single rep said as gospel and keep calling back and asking for a supervisor until it's resolved.
However, there's another issue:
If the OP rooted, installed a custom kernel, found his device ran too hot, then called Google complaining without first reverting to stock and testing to make sure it wasn't the custom kernel causing the overheating, the OP's brain is the thing needing a warranty exchange.
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I totally understand where you're coming from.
I used to work behind the genius bar so I know what you're getting at.
The full story is that I phoned up first and arranged a swap but realised that they would send to university address and not home phoned back again to change address and that's when the guy tried some extra steps with me and then asked for serial etc, you know the rest.
I get his word isn't stone but was shocked that they could definitely tell, wanted to share exp.
In all honesty the reason I didn't act rationally was that he ultimately called me out and I was major surprised since I'd never heard of anything similar before aka remote sense of root.
This is literally the third android device I've had and I'm only getting into the scene now, there's no custom kernel on my nexus. I run it stock.
FYI this was UK. Oh and CS didn't deny service they just referred me to someone else. Will try again post hols.
Hope explains!
?? Has anyone else experienced major heat on NFS:MW ??
alias_neo said:
I'd prefer to see a root method where the app hides the binary under a unique name so they can't call it to find out.
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you mean like the way a rootkit does it
?? Has anyone else experienced major heat on NFS:MW ??
Mine do to and lag in a lot of games because of throttling
DISCLAIMER: This isn't about resetting a stolen device, since this discussion doesn't apply to what to do AFTER it was blocked
I'm very happy with the combination find my mobile + reactivation lock. I've noticed that all our s5 are running a c&c client named Compuserve Agent (com.absolute.android.agent).
Now comes the disturbing part: I can't remove it. If I delete it it just pops out again.
I don't want a third party trojan horse, anyone who as access to my EMEI can in theory control my device, the traffic to the C&C can be seen and possibly it is not that secure.
Did anybody attempt to remove this?
venereo said:
DISCLAIMER: This isn't about resetting a stolen device, since this discussion doesn't apply to what to do AFTER it was blocked
I'm very happy with the combination find my mobile + reactivation lock. I've noticed that all our s5 are running a c&c client named Compuserve Agent (com.absolute.android.agent).
Now comes the disturbing part: I can't remove it. If I delete it it just pops out again.
I don't want a third party trojan horse, anyone who as access to my EMEI can in theory control my device, the traffic to the C&C can be seen and possibly it is not that secure.
Did anybody attempt to remove this?
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That doesn't sound particularly disturbing. If you want to take the red pill I'll give it to you.
Samsung, like all major developers/OEMs, is known for including backdoors in their software. Not 3rd party trojans but actual backdoors in apps such as Task Manager, Camera etc. The usual excuse they give is that they've included those backdoors for law enforcement to be able to protect us easier. And now we aren't even talking about low level backdoors and trojans that are hardcoded in to the chips..
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That doesn't sound particularly disturbing. If you want to take the red pill I'll give it to you.
Samsung, like all major developers/OEMs, is known for including backdoors in their software. Not 3rd party trojans but actual backdoors in apps such as Task Manager, Camera etc. The usual excuse they give is that they've included those backdoors for law enforcement to be able to protect us easier. And now we aren't even talking about low level backdoors and trojans that are hardcoded in to the chips..
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http://lojack.absolute.com/en/products/absolute-lojack
It's a partner's application, for me it's still 3rd party PAID service, remote controls from sammy and absolut C&C client are 2 different applications in the mobile.
Do we really need both? Disturbing in terms that somebody can abuse from it.
Don't think the OP knows what a trojan is.
Thanks but I've reversed many c&c clients/servers much more elaborated and first thing is to try to hide client code. I'm concerned that anybody can see how it works. I don't need it and I want it removed, that's all.
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As any half reasonable search would have revealed, the cited process is a legitimate stock app. Computrace authored by Absolute Software. It's an anti-theft measure that is embedded in the firmware and NV memory.
You may not like it, but it is in no way a rogue app or trojan horse as you claim. Do a search and you will find a number of existing threads on the subject as well as press releases from both companies about the theft-recovery rationale for Samsung including it on your phone.
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His behavior is no different than other malware in the market, it's just sitting there waiting for me to pay for a service that I'm not going to pay, Samsung still have their own "backdoor" maybe you have a good excuse for then to make them separate services. Like I told anybody that can see your emei in the path that the device takes to reach your hands can activate it, operators are doing soo. Not everybody lives in a free country, and from my perspective I've the right to disable it
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Of course the only way to push this kind of sw it's by finding legitimate excuses. The same persistence technics applied to this are for sure applied to Samsung software, I still find that weird. Security through obscurity has never been a solution. Knocking Knox is as ilegal as knocking this. And if it has flaws then they should be public in order to get a better one on next update. Samsung have their own anti-thief measures in a separate service
if ur so worried about the dystopian nature of samsung, root and flash cyanogen. sure ull invalidate warranty but who wan'ts any favors from those NSA-like evil overlords
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if ur so worried about the dystopian nature of samsung, root and flash cyanogen. sure ull invalidate warranty but who wan'ts any favors from those NSA-like evil overlords
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I'm sure you missed the point I made above about the fact that simply flashing another rom is not enough if you're looking for real security. AFAIK it is completely possible to hardcode a backdoor into the device's chips or have a dedicated chip just for this purpose. If you are really concerned about your safety you should either get it done yourself (build a device from scratch) or you should hire someone to do it for you. Buying a device from the public market and talking about real security is ridiculous imo. :good:
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I'm sure you missed the point I made above about the fact that simply flashing another rom is not enough if you're looking for real security. AFAIK it is completely possible to hardcode a backdoor into the device's chips or have a dedicated chip just for this purpose. If you are really concerned about your safety you should either get it done yourself (build a device from scratch) or you should hire someone to do it for you. Buying a device from the public market and talking about real security is ridiculous imo. :good:
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actually it was more an agreement with the idea that people would buy a phone made by a large company by using a service from another large company and expecting neither company to do something to protect their investment is silly. also theyd do anything to strip out this "spyware" then complain if samsung refuted a warranty claim cause it was mucked with
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if ur so worried about the dystopian nature of samsung, root and flash cyanogen. sure ull invalidate warranty but who wan'ts any favors from those NSA-like evil overlords
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after all said you still think is that easy? this is persistence trough firmware, not kernel/OS related. same as having something writen on your disk when bios loads
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I'm sure you missed the point I made above about the fact that simply flashing another rom is not enough if you're looking for real security. AFAIK it is completely possible to hardcode a backdoor into the device's chips or have a dedicated chip just for this purpose. If you are really concerned about your safety you should either get it done yourself (build a device from scratch) or you should hire someone to do it for you. Buying a device from the public market and talking about real security is ridiculous imo. :good:
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guess so, but since somebody GOT us root.....
without root yes, but with root.............
real security does not exist. but it's much more difficult to enforce real-security when the user have root privileges
before that point they still have to make it work with the phone powered down, after that we can talk about chips
lazyness works like this
If you are so concerned, install a firewall app - droidwall and restrict network connection. Also there is an app to revoke certain permission of your installed apps.
these 2 should increase your security somehow
venereo said:
guess so, but since somebody GOT us root.....
without root yes, but with root.............
real security does not exist. but it's much more difficult to enforce real-security when the user have root privileges
before that point they still have to make it work with the phone powered down, after that we can talk about chips
lazyness works like this
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Buy a Blackphone.
sam20e said:
If you are so concerned, install a firewall app - droidwall and restrict network connection. Also there is an app to revoke certain permission of your installed apps.
these 2 should increase your security somehow
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Agent sends your number as soon as it calls home and it can send you SmS with the commands.
I can stop it, I just wanted to know if somebody actually managed to remove it
FYI:
Devs angrily dismiss Absolute Computrace rootkit accusation
Absolute Computrace Revisited
And believe me, Computrace just started now on android, AFIK they have absolute no experience in android. They don't even can afford a dexguard license! out-of-the-box proguard? DISTURBING
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