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Nexus One aka Google "FAIL"-phone

Update:
Engadget found the FCC filing: no at&t 3G.
That's a big FAIL on google's part. What's the point of selling the phone unlocked if you can only use it with one carrier?
FAIL!
http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/14/htc-nexus-one-blessed-by-the-fcc-with-t-mobile-and-att-huspa/
Update 2:
Could this be the first at&t android device?
http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/16/motorola-backflip-enzo-bringing-android-contortions-to-atandt/
Mmmmhhh. Plenty of rumors today that Google will shortly release an unlocked android phone (HTC hardware).
Apparently, employees received the phone at a Friday event.
Might even come with at&t AND US t-mobile 3G (so quad-band 3G?).
http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/12/google-employees-given-htc-made-google-phones/
http://googlemobile.blogspot.com/2009/12/android-dogfood-diet-for-holidays.html
http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/12/12/google-phone-unlocked-confirmed/
Last night, we started seeing some Tweets from Google employees and others about a new Android-powered Google phone that was apparently handed out at an “all hands” meeting. Now Google is confirming that it is indeed “dogfood” testing a new Android device with employees around the world.
But this isn’t just another Android phone. Very trustworthy sources who have seen the phone say that it is the Google Phone we first wrote about last month (despite the uninformed saying we were dreaming). It will be branded Google and sold by Google as an unlocked phone, which could change everything. As we wrote in our original post:
Google is building their own branded phone that they’ll sell directly and through retailers. They were long planning to have the phone be available by the holidays, but it has now slipped to early 2010. The phone will be produced by a major phone manufacturer but will only have Google branding (Microsoft did the same thing with their first Zunes, which were built by Toshiba).
There won’t be any negotiation or compromise over the phone’s design of features – Google is dictating every last piece of it. No splintering of the Android OS that makes some applications unusable. Like the iPhone for Apple, this phone will be Google’s pure vision of what a phone should be.
The phone itself is being built by HTC, with a lot of input from Google. It seems to be a tailored version of the HTC Passion or the related HD2 (Unlocker scored some leaked picturesback in October which are of the same phone).
Here are the details we know so far about the phone: It will be called the Google Phone and will launch in early January, 2010. It won’t be sold by any one carrier, but instead will be an unlocked GSM phone. In the U.S., that means T-Mobile and possibly AT&T, whose exclusivity deal with the iPhone is about to run out. It will be running Android 2.1
The phone is “really, really fast,” says someone who has seen one in action. It runs on a Snapdragon chip, has a super high-resolution OLED touchscreen, is thinner than the iPhone, has no keyboard, and two mics. The mic on the back of the phone helps eliminate background noise, and it also has a “weirdly” large camera for a phone. And if you don’t like the touchscreen keyboard, a voice-to-text feature is supposed to let you dictate emails and notes by speaking directly into the phone.
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That would be very cool Looks like Google will be the exclusive seller with these unlocked!

I should have this phone (aka "Nexus One") in my hands on Monday

mr_notorious said:
I should have this phone (aka "Nexus One") in my hands on Monday
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And how is that? U work for Google?

galaxys said:
And how is that? U work for Google?
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connections...connections.

HTC Bravo
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Google Phone
http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/12/12/nexus-one-google-phone-picture/

Darkaz said:
HTC Bravo
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Google Phone
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http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/12/12/nexus-one-google-phone-picture/
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Same phone just different versions. I'm guessing Bravo will remain the htc version/name which will prolly be released in europe in april while nexus might be google's name and maybe passion will be what some carriers might call it. Seems like it'll be for Tmobile's 3g so it will work on At&t's Edge at least (maybe 3g too if they added the frequency); which does make sense since the first android phone was produced by htc and went to tmobile. If these rumors come to fruition, tmobile will finally have a phone to brag about. I'm sure everything will be clear by CES the latest (though I wouldn't be suprised if they'd make an announcement before the end of the year.)

i wonder where all the hype comes from.
we already had a device which was made by htc based on googles requirements. it was called tmobile G1.
So this is nothing more than a successor for me. Also i wonder what stuff like "this time google is responsible for the whole user experience" means.
Android is from Google, and as far as i know they did it on themselves since day 1. Nobody told them what to do. So how much more "own google experience" can the new device be, compared to the other "with Google" devices which also were based on Googles own Android?!
Well maybe HTC will provide some kind of google sense ui to make the user interface prettier.
But as it stands now i would prefer a HTC device like the HTC Bravo with HTC Sense to any google only device. If Google manages to overhaul the UI on some apps like the contact app, this might change of course. But i'm not sure if google can pull that off, HTC has some more years experience in this regard.

Svegetto said:
If these rumors come to fruition, tmobile will finally have a phone to brag about.
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tmobile has the IPhone aka "bragging rights device" in germany...

Wonder if it will run the Sense UI or will google slap Vanilla Android 2.? on this phone...

Nexus One
I really hope that it has Sense UI. Google has to be able to realize that HTC's take on their home screens is much better than the original design.

Nexus One is very cool. It comes with a 5MP camera with flash. I'm loving it so far.

redrazr7791 said:
Wonder if it will run the Sense UI or will google slap Vanilla Android 2.? on this phone...
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It runs Eclair 2.1 w/ Nexus UI.

mr_notorious said:
It runs Eclair 2.1 w/ Nexus UI.
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Nexus UI?
Looks like standard android to me =/

Well they tagged it as the Nexus UI. I don't know what's new until tomorrow.

mr_notorious said:
Well they tagged it as the Nexus UI. I don't know what's new until tomorrow.
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nexus..as in sony ericsson's x10 with nexus? i doubt that SE would be giving their UI out. its just called the nexus one.
looks hot tho, can't wait to pick it up.
and if you really are taking a look at it tomorrow. think you could post impressions, specs, etc?

xtop said:
nexus..as in sony ericsson's x10 with nexus? i doubt that SE would be giving their UI out. its just called the nexus one.
looks hot tho, can't wait to pick it up.
and if you really are taking a look at it tomorrow. think you could post impressions, specs, etc?
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The x10 has Timescape/MediaScape/Rachel UI?

google nexus ux (ux=user experience)

xtop said:
and if you really are taking a look at it tomorrow. think you could post impressions, specs, etc?
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Not only going to look at it, I gonna get it. Early X-Mas for me. I can't say much...sorry. Phone is bounded to an NDA.
EDIT: My mistake, it's a UX, not a UI.

maybe it will have the ability to switch UI's, like the user would get the option to buy UI's.. like sense or rachel or motoblur...
probably not but that would be really cool

Is Android Unstoppable?

Thought I might share an article that has some World Smartphone Market Share Charts, and where that 885% increase we have seen recently came from. The article itself is a good read if anyone is interested in reading it.
http://www.unwiredview.com/2010/08/03/is-android-unstoppable/
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Yup, it's unstoppable, until Google grow too big & too arrogant (like all other big corporations...)
'till then love it!
Lodger

Hey! Android is beating apple now! But apple will probably get ahead again when the iPhone 4S gets a small "revolutionary" upgrade to the front facing camera

I love Android as much as the next person, but remember the number of products that run the Android OS compared to the Apple OS. How do you think it would be if there were as many different Apple products that could run the OS as there are that run Android?

It doesn't matter how many they sell..... it's still beating it out. It might be 1 phone but is being manufactured just like all the rest in the same quanitity.

Rudreax said:
I love Android as much as the next person, but remember the number of products that run the Android OS compared to the Apple OS. How do you think it would be if there were as many different Apple products that could run the OS as there are that run Android?
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And who's fault is that? Apple's. Apple doesn't allow others to use their software and that's why they won't ever sell the most.

Android will do very well as its becoming so widespread.
I think the amazing thing to me in that chart is that Apple has that level of penetration with only 3 phones, and limited cell-providers (1 in the US, etc)...

If android only had one device they would still be where they are at

theartfullodger said:
Yup, it's unstoppable, until Google grow too big & too arrogant (like all other big corporations...)
'till then love it!
Lodger
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How could Google be any bigger short of overtaking Poland right now?

No mobile OS is unstoppable. Android may be doing extremely well right now but that doesn't mean that they can't get knocked down into oblivion. I don't think it'll happen. But that doesn't mean that this current sales boom is going to continue on forever.

thepawn said:
Android will do very well as its becoming so widespread.
I think the amazing thing to me in that chart is that Apple has that level of penetration with only 3 phones, and limited cell-providers (1 in the US, etc)...
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The cell provider is limited in the US but pretty much everyone carriers it outside. Here in Canada for example, Fido/Rogers/Telus/Bell/Virgin all carry the iPhone.

seeking said:
If android only had one device they would still be where they are at
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Lol, no it wouldn't.
obstacles can kill said:
No mobile OS is unstoppable. Android may be doing extremely well right now but that doesn't mean that they can't get knocked down into oblivion. I don't think it'll happen. But that doesn't mean that this current sales boom is going to continue on forever.
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Not necessarily. Every mobile OS up to this point has been essentially a one company, one software scenario.
Android is much more flexible in terms of staying up to date with usage trends. If developers start moving in one direction, android by nature will follow that direction. iOS, winmo, blackberry attempt to monetize the OS.
What makes the open nature of android so great is that it gets small independent developers involved. Those are the real people who allow for progression in OSes.
You have knockoff phones running android 2.1. That's a great boon for android.

ExtraDas said:
How could Google be any bigger short of overtaking Poland right now?
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Sigh! Well, see at
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/global500/2010/full_list/index.html
Google doesn't even make the top 100 corporations by sales volume (yup, I know, there are many other ways of comparing corporations...)
Cheers!
Lodger

theartfullodger said:
Sigh! Well, see at
http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/global500/2010/full_list/index.html
Google doesn't even make the top 100 corporations by sales volume (yup, I know, there are many other ways of comparing corporations...)
Cheers!
Lodger
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No offense to you, but i dont believe cnn money is a trustable source of information anymore, especially not after the butchering of that last survey. Cnn money is no more trustworthy in my mind as The Inquirer is.

Blueman101 said:
No offense to you, but i dont believe cnn money is a trustable source of information anymore, especially not after the butchering of that last survey. Cnn money is no more trustworthy in my mind as The Inquirer is.
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Sigh!
OK brother, yup, CNN are untrustworthy b******s but see at...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_companies_by_revenue
Google doesn't even make the top 186... (which ends with Commerzbank with revenues of $40B US compared with Google's revenues of some $23.651B US see
http://investor.google.com/financial/tables.html
making Google less than 6% of Walmart's revenues ....
Cheers!
Lodger
PS Yup, I know, WikiP is known is some circles as WrongiPedia but come on....
PPS But, yes, Google will grow 'n grow.. which was my original point....

thepawn said:
Android will do very well as its becoming so widespread.
I think the amazing thing to me in that chart is that Apple has that level of penetration with only 3 phones, and limited cell-providers (1 in the US, etc)...
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The userbase started back in 2007 though I don't think Android really made a push until last year (after the first generation of Android phones)

JCopernicus said:
Not necessarily. Every mobile OS up to this point has been essentially a one company, one software scenario.
Android is much more flexible in terms of staying up to date with usage trends. If developers start moving in one direction, android by nature will follow that direction. iOS, winmo, blackberry attempt to monetize the OS.
What makes the open nature of android so great is that it gets small independent developers involved. Those are the real people who allow for progression in OSes.
You have knockoff phones running android 2.1. That's a great boon for android.
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You're right in everything that you said. But that still doesn't mean it's unstoppable. While the chance of Android losing its momentum anytime soon is extremely unlikely, it can still happen. Depending on who you ask, you can be told that Windows Mobile was "unstoppable" at a point or that Maemo was the new up and coming that was going to make an impact. And of course, a great example would be s60 which many thought was the next "number one".
I love my Android. My Nexus One is my baby, I've got a 6" Andy decal on my car, and a smaller one on my laptop. But we gotta be real here. Nothing in the mobile game is truly unstoppable. That includes Android and iOS.

of course it would

Look and read !!

You all bought this phone not even knowing there was gonna be a 2.1. SO why the heck are you complaining just because it can have it you still bought it regardless so why not Desire which did have 2.1 So please all stop your bloody moaning its doing my head in I like too answer questions asked on here and not look at stupid posts all the TIME !!!!!!!!!

thats for sure!
+1

Tada! Good job
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I remember we were promised a 2.1 update officially from SE when I bought the phone. I recently spoke with a programmer for SE though, so I understand why it's taking them so long, and I'm not that mad about it.

When I bought this phone, the whole reason I bought it was for the promised upgrade too 2.1 at the end of Q3. If I had known they were going to delay it, then yes I would have just gotten a Desire.
I have every right to moan and complain when they promised something and then didn't deliver.

I knew the phone was loaded with 1.6, but I also took solace in the fact that an update was imminent. This however hasn't been fulfilled, hence the frustration. Iv never posted about 2.1 on the x10, but your anger is misplaced

Tell ya what though - I'm glad they postponed the release of 2.1
While SE might have released it before the end of September, there was then going to be country changes, and the my carrier was bound to hold onto it for well over a month or two, and I'd probably still be waiting until mid 2011
So now I can just relax and enjoy 1.6 again, instead of getting hung up on an update.
See, I don't give two craps about the difference between 1.6 and 2.1 and 8.7, I just like shiny stuff.
Now I'm off to play with myself.

k1sr said:
Tell ya what though - I'm glad they postponed the release of 2.1
While SE might have released it before the end of September, there was then going to be country changes, and the my carrier was bound to hold onto it for well over a month or two, and I'd probably still be waiting until mid 2011
So now I can just relax and enjoy 1.6 again, instead of getting hung up on an update.
See, I don't give two craps about the difference between 1.6 and 2.1 and 8.7, I just like shiny stuff.
Now I'm off to play with myself.
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this you?

got my white x10i in the first week it released and i dun even know anythung about android os version (this is my first android device) so i was just quietly being patience waiting for the update...however now i start getting frustrated on these non-sense threads.
too many complaining in this forum now and i think MODS should start taking further actions to clean up some threads.....
the forum initally has some useful information...but now trying to search the forum for some specific topics and/or solutions will yield to so many useless threads in return....
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chris_knows said:
I remember we were promised a 2.1 update officially from SE when I bought the phone. I recently spoke with a programmer for SE though, so I understand why it's taking them so long, and I'm not that mad about it.
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I'm curious though... why is it taking them so long?

same here i really really really want to know why its taking so long

tetracortica said:
same here i really really really want to know why its taking so long
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Because they want to make sure we get the best experience out of the phone.
Because it's SE's first attempt at Android
Because there's a lot of customisations, rather than just plain old 2.1
Because sometimes things take longer than expected
Because if you ever had Windows Mobile, you'd know you never ever ever get an update
Because sometimes companies release 1000s of updates, mainly to fix issues the introduced with the previous update - SE want's to release an update without bugs
Because it's not really taking that long
Because there's nothing wrong with 1.6
Because some of the x10 community have become impatient, it seems like a long time
Because good things take time
Because they can
Because they have more to do in their time than just give you 2.1
Because it's interesting to watch the reactions of people
Because they might have to reprogram a lot of their UI to work with 2.1
Because 2.1 ain't perfect anyway
Because there should be another point here but I can't remember
Because I like making bullet points
Instead of whining about the problem, why not become part of the solution.
Ask yourself "what can I do to help Sony along?"

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Because they want to make sure we get the best experience out of the phone.
Because it's SE's first attempt at Android
Because there's a lot of customisations, rather than just plain old 2.1
Because sometimes things take longer than expected
Because if you ever had Windows Mobile, you'd know you never ever ever get an update
Because sometimes companies release 1000s of updates, mainly to fix issues the introduced with the previous update - SE want's to release an update without bugs
Because it's not really taking that long
Because there's nothing wrong with 1.6
Because some of the x10 community have become impatient, it seems like a long time
Because good things take time
Because they can
Because they have more to do in their time than just give you 2.1
Because it's interesting to watch the reactions of people
Because they might have to reprogram a lot of their UI to work with 2.1
Because 2.1 ain't perfect anyway
Because there should be another point here but I can't remember
Because I like making bullet points
Instead of whining about the problem, why not become part of the solution.
Ask yourself "what can I do to help Sony along?"
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+1. Guess that sum up everything
[*]Because they SE...

...........Because they are completely redesigning the UI

What I can't wrap my head around is if people wanted 2.1 or 2.2, why didn't they just buy a device that was already at the higher version.
It's not like there weren't any available. 99% of the countries where the X10 is officially sold have had a pretty nice selction of devices. And the world isn't lacking in unlocked devices....Even in Japan, the Desire came out only 3 months after the X10. (And was quickly pulled from the shelves. Apparently it's being re-released in October, with 2.2 preinstalled)
If these same people are so willing to sell their X10s just so they can have a newer Android version now instead of in a few weeks, why did they buy the phone in the first place???
I just can't understand.

@chris_knows... What did the SE programmer tell you?
Sent from my x10 using XDA and swype.

What:s wrong with Android 1.6? It still make my X10 looks good.
if we compare with other x series..x2 for instance. I must say "OH MY GOD"
Gunawan, GN Mutimedia & X10i

I dont really want to be back to an UnRooted phone, so I will wait a bit to try the 2.1 until the Root is fully tested

k1sr said:
Instead of whining about the problem, why not become part of the solution.
Ask yourself "what can I do to help Sony along?"
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Incase I wasn't clear enough in my previous post, I don't care for smart-ass answers. I wanted to know what caused the delay from a SE programmer's point of view. I said I was 'curious'. How is that whining?
@chris_knows: perhaps I'll just pm you since this forum has changed drastically since when I joined it. People will now attack you if they think there's even the slightest chance of someone attacking their beloved X10 (just for the record, I have no problems with my phone, I'm just CURIOUS)
Edit: If you really want to see whining, here you go: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyN7O5jURgo

When I bought the X10 T-Mobile told me..
2.1 is coming
MT is not supported by 1.6
16m colors not supported by 1.6
Getting FroYo was my own dream, not that crazy...
**** the 16m colors, give me MT and FroYo!!!!!!! (dreaming..)
k1sr said:
Because they want to make sure we get the best experience out of the phone. MY ASS, BEST SE experience..
Because it's SE's first attempt at Android. PS3 software OK. But Android?? I'ts not that new or cutting edge. No new development needed. Especially not for Sony.
Because there's a lot of customisations, rather than just plain old 2.1. Localization? Timescape? Mediascape? LOL!
Because sometimes things take longer than expected. Right...
Because if you ever had Windows Mobile, you'd know you never ever ever get an update. Please don't compare these..
Because sometimes companies release 1000s of updates, mainly to fix issues the introduced with the previous update - SE want's to release an update without bugs. Nice, as expected for a high end phone??
Because it's not really taking that long. It DOES!
Because there's nothing wrong with 1.6. There is! Come on!!! Software compatibility? Speed?...
Because some of the x10 community have become impatient, it seems like a long time. High end phone, budget software support..
Because good things take time. Good? where?
Because they can
Because they have more to do in their time than just give you 2.1 Right!
Because it's interesting to watch the reactions of people
Because they might have to reprogram a lot of their UI to work with 2.1. Crap!
Because 2.1 ain't perfect anyway. Its beter than 1.6. And thats so perfect as you mentioned..?
Because there should be another point here but I can't remember. Bla bla
Because I like making bullet points Bla bla
Instead of whining about the problem, why not become part of the solution.
Ask yourself "what can I do to help Sony along?" ARE YOU SERIOUS??
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Sony SE WONT help you, you just keep buying..
XDA CAN help us getting at least FroYo on the X10. MT and 16m colors? Who knows!?

Maybe we should organize a boycott of the Galaxy Tab

I apologize for making another "I'm mad at Samsung for..." thread, but after trying for the past hours to get the JI5 update and failing, I'm a bit angrier than I usually am and want to hurt Samsung somewhere where they will feel it while not going to extremes like trying to organize a class action suit.
Ever since the Galaxy S line came out they really haven't done much to support it except release 3 buggy updates for three of the phones and completely ignore the one that's been out in the States for the longest (until the "made you look" event of today), yet they're so eager to show off that Galaxy Tab that they want everyone to be interested in and buy next month. I suggest simply spreading the word to everyone that no one should but that thing until they at least get their house in order and get the Galaxy S line up to the basic functionality they should have had out of the box. Spread the word that they apparently can't support the products they release and that nobody should touch those things until they can prove they are going to stand behind the products they want us to spend our hard earned money on.
Before some of you start flaming me, I do very well know this is a forum for people who mod their phones and have no intention of staying stock. I mod my phones too. Even with the fixes I've flashed I still have issues with GPS and the phone resetting. I appreciate everything the community has done to help make these phones better and I whole heartedly thank them for doing so, but at the same time there's a whole company with a division of people getting paid to do this that hasn't been able to supply us with one good fix after nearly 3 months time. It's time we should make every potential customer aware of that.

I'm boycotting the U.S. release of the Galaxy Tab, but only because I find the fact that all 4 U.S. carriers disabling the phone functions of the thing (the international version won't have this limitation) as a hugely retarded move.
I'm not interested in carrying around 2 huge slabs-o-touchscreen all the darn time. If I were I'd be an iDiot and worship Steve Jobs.

That's understandable, personally I could care less about being able to make calls on tablet. It's not like you would be able to take calls on both your cell phone and the tablet. And I sure wouldn't care for having another phone number.
I love my iPad btw!

masterotaku said:
I'm boycotting the U.S. release of the Galaxy Tab, but only because I find the fact that all 4 U.S. carriers disabling the phone functions of the thing (the international version won't have this limitation) as a hugely retarded move.
I'm not interested in carrying around 2 huge slabs-o-touchscreen all the darn time. If I were I'd be an iDiot and worship Steve Jobs.
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Why would you carry it around if you can't use it as a phone?
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To be honest I am not surprised they are disabling the calling feature. In fact I would be surprised if they didn't.
I mean I for one wouldn't want to stop using my vibrant to use that giant tablet.
Also no matter what it will have wifi so it can be more like a laptop on the go and playing games on it will be awesome from the looks of it.

Well if they are just disabling the feature then that means the hardware to make calls is still built in so someone could root it and make calls anyway. But I'm still not getting one cause it'll be just like my phone. Tablets are a median of a phone and a notebook but nowadays the Ipad is the best out.
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Can't say I'm feeling pouty and petulant about Samsung in general, but I crossed four Tabs off my Xmas list when they announced the phone functionality was disabled.
As for the frequent comments about the Tab being too large to use as a phone, I use my phone as a speakerphone most of the time, and Bluetooth headsets put the final nail in the coffin for that argument.

I really doubt the S Tab will sell much anyway.
Smaller screen than the iPad, lower resolution, considerably worse battery life, for almost the same price....
Plus, given our experience with Samsung, it will probably not be upgraded to Gingerbread, which according to Google is the first version of Android actually meant for tablets.
Who in their right mind will buy the Tab?

What made me mad is they have more accessories slated for that thing than the very phones they already have out.
Docks, keyboards and all kinds of goodies. Oh yeah they all plug into the bottom of the Tab not the top like our retarded phones.

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Why would you carry it around if you can't use it as a phone?
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Exactly!
Since it's functionally crippled compared to it's European counterpart I don't plan on carrying one around.
It's an interesting device, and will probably have a modicum of success, but the deliberate lockdown of an existing feature is one that makes me uninterested in it.
Given that it's carrier unsubsidized pricing internationally is likely going to make it more expensive than the iPad, if I were to develop an interest in an Android tablet/mid that didn't support phone functions, I'd just SPEND LESS MONEY on a comparable 7" tablet that doesn't have phone functions. There are several...

Huge flaw with Samsung tablet, not sure if mentioned
At the moment pretty much every App available doesn't even support the tablets 1024x600 resolution so they will be to small for the screen or will stretch and look like crap.

demo23019 said:
Huge flaw with Samsung tablet, not sure if mentioned
At the moment pretty much every App available doesn't even support the tablets 1024x600 resolution so they will be to small for the screen or will stretch and look like crap.
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I can make everything in an app support that higher res, and I font even consider myself a dev... More of a file mover.. But there are tutorials and some apps are already compatible...
Remember when donut and froyo came out not all apps were compatible.. Some apps dont work on donut now...
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WTF does this have to do with the Vibrant? Oh, can all of you stop blaming everything on Samsung? It seems like only half the people on this forum has sense and understands that T-Mobile makes the final call on updates.

DKYang said:
WTF does this have to do with the Vibrant? Oh, can all of you stop blaming everything on Samsung? It seems like only half the people on this forum has sense and understands that T-Mobile makes the final call on updates.
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Dude, you are drawn to these threads like a fly is to sh!t!
T-Mobile has its problems, but what about the rest of the companies carrying the Galaxy S? Have any released Froyo, or successful compass fixes?
No? Must be a worldwide carrier conspiracy to make Samsung look bad, by delaying fixes and OS upgrades.....
No, Samsung's track records with product support just sucks. That's why some are pissed.

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Wait a second, let me get this straight. You are upset because an unofficial, probably beta quality firmware wasn't available properly through a piece of software that hasn't been released to the US market yet?

KerryG said:
Wait a second, let me get this straight. You are upset because an unofficial, probably beta quality firmware wasn't available properly through a piece of software that hasn't been released to the US market yet?
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Nice troll, since I don't believe you are actually as stupid as you're trying to get us to believe.
No, we're all pissed off about Samsung's crappy support. I bought a phone with a GPS built in. I can't use my GPS because it doesn't work.
A little fact which has been repeatedly explained to you. So either you choose to ignore it so you can troll more, or you have major issues with reading comprehension, take your pick.
And, as I said elsewhere, no one forced you to bring your fanboi self into this thread.

I'll hold out for MOTO or HTC
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That's great, let's organize a boycott of something that 99.9% of people have no plan to purchase in the first place. In other words, we're going to have to seek out people who want to buy the Tab and then dissuade them. Personally, I think I won't.

psshh, who is gonna buy that over sized phone anyway, too big for been a phone, too small for been a tablet

Google not releasing Honeycomb 3.0 source code anytime soon

News, but not as much of a deal to us (right now) as it is for tablet users.
http://arstechnica.com/open-source/...thering-as-google-withhold-honeycomb-code.ars
"The company revealed Thursday that it will delay publication of the Android 3.0 source code for the foreseeable future—possibly for months. It's not clear when (or if) the source code will be made available. The decision puts Android on a path towards a "draconian future" of its own, in which it is controlled by a single vendor—Google."
Expect the worst, hope for the best.

sirmx said:
News, but not as much of a deal to us (right now) as it is for tablet users.
http://arstechnica.com/open-source/...thering-as-google-withhold-honeycomb-code.ars
"The company revealed Thursday that it will delay publication of the Android 3.0 source code for the foreseeable future—possibly for months. It's not clear when (or if) the source code will be made available. The decision puts Android on a path towards a "draconian future" of its own, in which it is controlled by a single vendor—Google."
Expect the worst, hope for the best.
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I read the story the other day, I agree with google if they don't

Thats completely BS. There are so many froyo tablet out there (especially on the lower end) that I know the manufacturor probably won't update to honeycomb, many made by low budget ZTE brand.
I was hoping maybe XDA or similar people would be porting Honeycomb. For company that claims android is open, this is a huge FU. Do no evil, yeah $W$&ing right.
I don't even see how this is justified. People will adapt stuff to hardware its not intended for, but its not like we blame Google when that crap goes bad. More importantly, I know people can already do it without source.
I remember when Gingerbread first came out, a lot of Evo gingerbread ROMs came out based on the GB SDK that was released. They were far from stable, but people do it anyway. Considering the honeycomb SDK is released, I can see people trying (and probably already have).
Android, an open* mobile platform
*Only when it benefits Google.

MultiDev said:
Thats completely BS. There are so many froyo tablet out there (especially on the lower end) that I know the manufacturor probably won't update to honeycomb, many made by low budget ZTE brand.
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There's tons of 2.2 tabs out there after google said not to put it on tablets because it's not made for them.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1007327
There's a thread already open for this. Smh
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There's tons of 2.2 tabs out there after google said not to put it on tablets because it's not made for them.
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So? Isn't android all about being open. And more importantly, why shouldn't they be allowed to do that? Google can block its own apps from those tablets and I believe they did. Aside from that, an open platform should be open to all, right?

also heard this on a youtube vid from CTIA
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According to Bloomberg
This would be very disappointing...and the reasoning seems to be that they don't want devs putting Honeycomb on phones.
Apparently, the next source they plan on releasing will be for Ice Cream Sandwich.
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MultiDev said:
So? Isn't android all about being open. And more importantly, why shouldn't they be allowed to do that? Google can block its own apps from those tablets and I believe they did. Aside from that, an open platform should be open to all, right?
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Yes, google blocked market access to those devices, which makes having android kind of pointless. Android is open, but google also wants to make sure the experience is a good one for the consumer. Unfortunately enough people are uniformed that they will by no-name crap android tab, it will suck, and then they will not buy anotherbandroid device; and likely tell their uniformed friends android sucks and so forth.
At some point along the way there needs to be some type of quality assurance, or else you get a ton of crap flooding the market labeled android, and people aren't going to care that it's not googles fault, they're going to blame their bad experience on android.

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Thats completely BS. There are so many froyo tablet out there (especially on the lower end) that I know the manufacturor probably won't update to honeycomb, many made by low budget ZTE brand.
I was hoping maybe XDA or similar people would be porting Honeycomb. For company that claims android is open, this is a huge FU. Do no evil, yeah $W$&ing right.
I don't even see how this is justified. People will adapt stuff to hardware its not intended for, but its not like we blame Google when that crap goes bad. More importantly, I know people can already do it without source.
I remember when Gingerbread first came out, a lot of Evo gingerbread ROMs came out based on the GB SDK that was released. They were far from stable, but people do it anyway. Considering the honeycomb SDK is released, I can see people trying (and probably already have).
Android, an open* mobile platform
*Only when it benefits Google.
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MultiDev said:
So? Isn't android all about being open. And more importantly, why shouldn't they be allowed to do that? Google can block its own apps from those tablets and I believe they did. Aside from that, an open platform should be open to all, right?
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Yes it should but google has already been doing things differently than other open source OS's. AS is there are no nightly builds from google for any android platform.
We always say we are the 1% of the people of the population that buys android smartphones that come here regularly. People bash google for everything, first its fragmentation and look what they are doing now slowing down a bit and trying a way to stop all those cheap ass phones that suck and craptacular tablets from japan from getting into peoples hands and going "man i should have gotten "iphone/palm/windows/BB"

Who cares if they release the source code? Honeycomb (3.0) is for tablets only, not cellphones...

Did any of you read the article?
Google admitted to cutting corners just to get the OS released in time for tablets. It's flawed, messed up, incorrect, not right, etc and Google wants to fix it before releasing the source code.
This is not "omgzorz open source my ass, blah blah blah", this is Google saying "hey guys, we'll release the code, but please just let us fix what we messed up first, okay?"
Keep your damn panties on, the source will get released when they fix the problems they admitted they had. Which I completely respect Google for doing, by the way.

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Why don't you add something to this conversation instead of being a troll and posting pointless pics. This isn't 4chan.
As for HC being a tablet OS, I don't see how thats relevant. Imagine if Google said they weren't releasing froyo source code and all the tablet people came said, oh its not for tablets, so who cares. Not everyone here just owns smartphones.
As for Google cutting corners, that Google's problem. And more importantly, they can still improve things while releasing source code. The linux community (among others) does this all the time. Even more importantly, Google RTM'ed honeycomb. Xoom is on store selves. By doing that, Google is saying its ready (whether it actually is is debatable), so Google should stand by its RTM'ed code. Especially since Google isn't even calling this a beta (at least no mention of it on Xoom retail box) and Google calls practically all their products beta upon initial release.
This is a step in the wrong direction no matter how you look at it. Its not the first step in the wrong direction as some have pointed out and, worryingly, it probably won't be the last.