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Hello guys, im new to the forum and this type of phone so pardon me if i come across ignorant i can assure you this is not through arrogance, i have searched the website for 2days and could not find any advice on this matter and get this message 99% of the time! "Connection error while attempting to download weather data, retry?" (keeps happening no matter how many times i retry)
I have tried hard reset, soft reset even changed my network thinking the data reception was bad but this still seems to be the case where ever i am positioned with my phone.
This is an awesome phone, but an incredibly consuming one that can be frustrating at times! without the guys on this forum I dont think I would have lasted one day!
Any help would be much appreciated!
Make sure your 3G settings do not include "this network connects through a proxy".
lorin.bute said:
Make sure your 3G settings do not include "this network connects through a proxy".
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i have the same problem and already do that but nothing, always the connection error too!
just a question, you have problem with the connection only when you are trying to download weather update?
Hi,
I get this issue depending on my location. At my home I will get this message, but when I am at my office in Birmingham, it would update the my location weather no problems.
I think that if the place you are trying to get weather data for, is not on the database, then it will give an error. Because the software is not intelligent enough to find the 'nearest' place to your location.
The other problem can be caused by your telecoms, and how your 3g data is routed. As other have mentioned, this might be fixed with the proxy setting.
Oh, and I think you need to be receiving a 3g signal for this to work, I've never seen it work over GPRS...
To be honest, I've disabled the auto updating feature of this now. Because if I really needed to know about the weather of 'my location', I can always take a peek outside!
Sorry that you can't find any information on this. I'm surprised as I think it could possibly be the 2nd most asked question on here behind the old issues with slow SMS delivery. Here a summary of my understanding.
A local Cell tower is used to provide My Location data. Not all locations can be automatically updated Using My Location but most (can be automatically updated by adding the location to a list. A data connection is required and you need to enable Google location services.
It is known behavour for the My Location to all of a sudden start working when you are out and about as your phone connects to a different cell tower in a different location. I for one cannot get My Location dataq in Cheltenham but when I go to Gloucester I can get around 4 different "locations" on my way to work.
There was talk that part of this might be related to multiple locations having the same name and this causing problems with My Location selecting the correct data from the Accuweather database.
Hope this helps a bit althoughn I doubt we will get a fix.
I cannot currently remember if people with different service providers have different behavours with this service.
I got the same problem after using the Sim Contacts Fix... Found out that the stupid update changed the connection and told it to use a proxy server! Check if ur phone did the same thing as mine!
I can get my updates no probs without 3g, have no 3g coverage at the house at all, but what I have found is that when the weather would not work properly, and was giving the wrong location, I logged onto google maps, got a gps fix, and now the weather gives a spot on location, a very small village, that i would doubt being in any database.
I reckon weather pulls the location from the gps fix in googlemaps...
Just a thought.........
kjettern said:
I got the same problem after using the Sim Contacts Fix... Found out that the stupid update changed the connection and told it to use a proxy server! Check if ur phone did the same thing as mine!
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I think that is a slightly differemt issue caussing a similar effect. This issue has been around since the firat HD2 was released and mostly related to MyLocation successfully updating when in one area and not in another, with the same connectivity settings.
Regards.
to OP...
I too have failed to find a proper resolution to the "connection error...".
I know it can work on my phone, as I've seen it work perfectly around Devon & Bournemouth, both indoors and outdoors.
IMHO, it's definately a problem with Accuweather's database, regardless of connection type.
I used Duttys Disable Current Location cab to switch the pointless thing off.
Maybe one day someone will find a way to make it work for everywhere.
pastypacker said:
I can get my updates no probs without 3g, have no 3g coverage at the house at all, but what I have found is that when the weather would not work properly, and was giving the wrong location, I logged onto google maps, got a gps fix, and now the weather gives a spot on location, a very small village, that i would doubt being in any database.
I reckon weather pulls the location from the gps fix in googlemaps...
Just a thought.........
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Hi,
Im interested. How do you get your weather updates? Are you using Wifi or do you believe that it is all done via GPS? Now a silly question, sorry. Do you now have your village as a defined location or is it only "My Location" that is automatically updating?
Regards.
cMMY69 said:
Hi,
Im interested. How do you get your weather updates? Are you using Wifi or do you believe that it is all done via GPS? Now a silly question, sorry. Do you now have your village as a defined location or is it only "My Location" that is automatically updating?
Regards.
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At home, im using wifi, thelocation im referring to is the one that shows on the home screen after update, the nearest defined location that can be searched for is over 60 miles away in Plymouth.
I will try a non wifi update when i walk the dog again later, and see what that brings.....
gdayhtc said:
just a question, you have problem with the connection only when you are trying to download weather update?
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Yes all other apps and data features work like a dream, including google maps,
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Yes all other apps and data features work like a dream, including google maps,
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well i have the same thing here...happens to me as well, i was thinking may be it is acuweather and our current location. Having said that i have not changed any thing in my 3 g connections. 50% of the tome works. so i am not really fussed about it
To the OP (and anyone), please also report this issue to HTC self via their website. If they know about this issue, maybe they can make a fix for it .
I had same problem and tried these:
Switched to airplane mode and wifi on. Tried update and successfully updated.
Switched to phone on wifi off. Tried update and not updated.
Removed all cities. Tried update for my location and successfully updated.
Added some cities. Tried update and not updated.
Weird
For me the weather location is working generally fine, even if often it doesn't recognize a town (smaller ones) and instead shows "My Location" instead of a name. The update is only working when I have EDGE or 3G coverage (or WiFi), not when only GPRS.
What is very strange for me is, that when not on WiFi (then all works fine), i.e. when on the phone network, it updates well some cities, and some won't (the ones which won't are two of the cities I added in the beginning to the list, i.e. Geneva and Nuremberg). All other cities I added work well for the updated. I wonder if it has something to do with the fact that I added them at a specific moment. When I deleted these cities and put them back in the list it won't help. I wonder if you can reset the weather program without making a hard reset, in order to see if it would help.
Fixed
Settings>connections>connections>advanced>select networks>edit (your gsm operator gprs/3g settings)>edit>next>next>advanced>servers
Select use specific server address and enter a dns . I'm using google dns 8.8.8.8.
Click OK>finish and yes to do you want to save changes. Click OK until connections window. Soft reset and try to update weather.
This happened to me when I removed JVH3 Weather City Editor.
once I reinstalled it, my error has gone away.
Ron
Have had the HD2 for a few weeks now, with no problems with weather. Went on holiday, came back, and getting the error as per this thread. Strangely it seemed like I was getting the update, then getting the error afterwards.
Spoke to my provider (T-mobile) who were next to useless (well that's unfair, I guess they suggested a lot of things but none worked).
Took out all cities from the application and updated - worked fine (and this was over GPRS as one of things T-mobile had me do was switch Band under phone settings (All Settings/Personal/Phone/GSM/UTMS Services/Band/Get Settings)).
Could it be as simple as an error in the weather data for ANY city causing the problem - not just your location? My location at home always seems to be detected fine...
Hi all,
I was just wondering if anyone knew why my Weather tab has suddenly started mis-reporting my location as Oldham. I'm actually a few miles away. Up until recently it always found and reported the location of my fairly small home town accurately, and worked great elsewhere too.
Now however, it keeps defaulting to Oldham. It also sometimes says Rochdale, or occasionally Manchester. These are inaccurate too. Just a couple of weeks ago it always got my location right, but now it hardly ever does. It seems to have suddenly lost its ability to pinpoint my location, so simply defaults to a nearby large town or city, despite the fact I'm miles away from them.
Incidentally, the four dots around the GPS logo (next to the name of My Location) no longer 'gyrate' while updating. They used to rotate in a 'wobbly' orbit around the globe logo in the centre, presumably to indicate GPS activity. Now they just spin in a fixed orbit around the central point (GPS still works fine in TomTom7 and Google Maps etc).
I have Location Service enabled, and allow it to gather data on my location at any time. The problem remains the same whether I'm connected via WiFi or HSDPA, or both.
Does My Location actually use GPS, or just cell towers? Like I said, it worked fine up until recently. I know people have had various problems with the Weather tab, but I can't find anyone with this exact problem on here. Any advice would be gratefully received.
Thanks,
Rob.
Mate, the GPS is the least of your worries. If Oldham is the nearest place of interest to you, you should move home!
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Mate, the GPS is the least of your worries. If Oldham is the nearest place of interest to you, you should move home!
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lol
But on a serious note, weather worked fine for me, until one day I did a hard reset.
Now I have not once had the correct location at home.
Weird ay?
I suspect that your weather location is tied to your local cell.
GF is on t-mob and I'm on O2, our HD2s regularly report our local weather location as being in different places even though we're both on the same sofa, my guess is that it depends on which cell signal is strongest, maybe your local one is temporarily down?
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Mate, the GPS is the least of your worries. If Oldham is the nearest place of interest to you, you should move home!
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That's my point; Oldham ISN'T my nearest town, but the damn phone keeps sticking it on my Weather tab anyway. My phone has never even been to Oldham!
My Desk in work officially sits between Brockworth and Hucclecoat. I get different locations at each side of my desk. It does sound like its a cell tower problem to me.
Yup depending where i am in town i get either north lincolnshire or appleby its very annoying
it doesn't use gps...uses information from the cell tower your phone is currently using. If that cell tower is labelled Oldham, then that's what you'll get.
I get saddleworth most of the time. I got tameside once which would be better
if i am getting hsdpa signal it's correct if i get 3g signal it reports wrong location.
Same here. I often get Poplar when I'm travelling through Hackney.
I experienced the same problem. It's weird that when I use Wifi, the location is about 30 miles away from where I am. But using 3g, it points to a couple miles away which is acceptable
here is one for you.. lmao
If I am upstairs at my computer I get Richmond, if I am in the guest room dirrectly below my desk down stairs, im in Preston. now if I force it to update, im in Smithfield until I get back to my computer and wait 15 minutes were I am once again, back in Richmond...
at leasts yours works, my location hasnt worked in the 2 months i had the hd2 works fine on my hero lolol
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if i am getting hsdpa signal it's correct if i get 3g signal it reports wrong location.
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Funny, it's the other way round for me - it's generally accurate if I'm getting a 3G connection, but when it's HSDPA (most of the time) it usually shows up wrong (I'm on T-Mobile).
Anyway, thanks all for the replies. Nice to know it isn't a fault on my handset at least. Doesn't sound like there's much we can do about it though.
Cheers,
Rob.
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Funny, it's the other way round for me - it's generally accurate if I'm getting a 3G connection, but when it's HSDPA (most of the time) it usually shows up wrong (I'm on T-Mobile).
Anyway, thanks all for the replies. Nice to know it isn't a fault on my handset at least. Doesn't sound like there's much we can do about it though.
Cheers,
Rob.
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It'll depend on which cell it's connecting to then. It's probably connecting to an H-enabled tower which is in Glamorous Oldham, and the fallback cell is just 3G/GPRS and closer to home.
i have the same issue, somethings its ok and recognises my location as swindon but in my house it says im in wroughton which is a small village about 5 miles away.
I had a problem like this, but mine was 100 or so miles out.
I found out it was to do with where my time settings were.
I chose manchester (closest major city [and home city for me]) for my time.
So it made the weather show manchester as my location.
now i've changed the time to my location, its the same in weather.
dont know how much use that is to you, worked for me though.
For some reason my weather location on my home screen is now showing "Brooking" instead of Kansas City. I have never even heard of Brooking. This won't change back to Kansas City no matter how many times I manually update it. It should read Kansas City, I live in Kansas City and it was working fine until a couple of hours ago. Anyone have any ideas on this?
Thanks
Brooking is just south east of KC in MO. I have the same issue with mine showing Salida, CO which is a tiny town just south west of Denver(where I live). Seems to be an issue with how the weather widget handles location. I am now using beautiful widgets with no problems. I made a post about this last week and no one seemed to know anything.
By chance are either of you using an Airave?
I used to live in Independence, MO, and my location was showing Overland Park before I moved to Denver. I was using an Airave, and that was the cause of the incorrect location. Sprint will tell you that the Airave can mess up location based services.
Anyway, I noticed this when 2.1 roms first came out (didn't happen on 1.5 roms for some reason) and this is the cause. If you shut off your airave, reboot your phone, it should be correct.
Hope this helps.
for what ever reason, if wifi is on this can happen also, as it will use wifi to detect location and this can and usually will point to a server base. disable wifi, and have the weather update through ev and it will also correct this issue, until wifi is enabled again.
My wifi wasn't on, and I don't use Airave...not sure what the issue was for me, I did manage to get it fixe by doing a NANdroid restore...I lost a couple of downloads from the market, but they were easy to get back.
Thanks for the responses though, it was very much appreciated
Does anyone know if there is a way to update google's wifi database manually... It seems to me that it should maybe do this for the first couple weeks, but if you allow them to collect location data, the database should fix itself. I did have the problem on the stock 1.5 ROM too. No AirRave.
I'm in Independence and mine went to brooking too. I just turned on gps, manually updated and it went back to the right location.
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Anyone else having Problems with my location not showing weather and saying Unable to download weather... The clock will work but i have to manually put a location in to get weather on my phone.
nardone24 said:
Anyone else having Problems with my location not showing weather and saying Unable to download weather... The clock will work but i have to manually put a location in to get weather on my phone.
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are you sure you have location services turned on in settings?
same problem
im also having that problem... i made sure all the location services are activated and still nothing
No other issues with data or cell reception/connection at that time?
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im also having that problem... i made sure all the location services are activated and still nothing
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if ur on the rom that came with the device ur the problem but if u moded the rom sayin u downloaded a rom from xda or members then u need to go back to the rom thread u downloaded ur rom from and let them in that rom help u and always remember to do a search before startin a new thread
Did my research, im on stock rom location services enabled. No reception problems
But thanx anyway...
Are you connected to a PC? If so try this
On the Windows Mobile Device Center window under Settings click Connection Settings. Then uncheck Allow data connections on device when connected to PC and select The Internet for This computer is connected to. I don't recall much about activesync, but I think it has something similar.
I ran into a similar issue and this solved it.
nardone24 said:
Did my research, im on stock rom location services enabled. No reception problems
But thanx anyway...
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It doesn’t work for me either. Actually, doesn’t work in Orlando area, but if I go to other cities here in Florida it does (on 3g or not)
The only way that I can make it to work here is turning on the wifi without connecting to any wifi, then turn it off and tap “ Uptade Now” or tap "update now" while the wifi is searching for connection.
ya i called t-mobile about this yesterday there sending me a replacement phone mybe its a hardware problem
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ya i called t-mobile about this yesterday there sending me a replacement phone mybe its a hardware problem
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Mmmm, I don't think it's a hardware problem, at least for me. It does work in other areas.
@ nardone, etc....are you all able to open google maps and get any localization there (either with or without satellites)?
On the few occassions I've had problems getting "my location" to update, it was cleared up as soon as I opened gmaps and got a full lock...so you can try that, at least make sure that it's not a hardware issue.
Hey, a fellow Orlando-an! I have the exact same problem with the My Location service here. I have Orlando put in as a manual location, and it updates every couple of hours as its supposed to. But for the My Location, it hasn't updated in 3 days.
Nothing more annoying than going outside in the blinding heat and sun to look down on your phone that says you are in the middle of a thunderstorm.
It doesn't seem to be a problem with the GPS or location system, as it updates my location fine(currently in Maitland, not Orlando, which is correct). But it doesn't download the weather for this location properly. Very troubling...
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Hey, a fellow Orlando-an! I have the exact same problem with the My Location service here. I have Orlando put in as a manual location, and it updates every couple of hours as its supposed to. But for the My Location, it hasn't updated in 3 days.
Nothing more annoying than going outside in the blinding heat and sun to look down on your phone that says you are in the middle of a thunderstorm.
It doesn't seem to be a problem with the GPS or location system, as it updates my location fine(currently in Maitland, not Orlando, which is correct). But it doesn't download the weather for this location properly. Very troubling...
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Go Magic!...
I'm not sure what's the problem. As I said it works on wifi and even when wifi is on and not connected to any network. It does work fine on Edge here in Orlando and also worked in 3G in Miami and Las Vegas.
I've been playing with it all afternoon at work(aren't they happy about that), and can't get it to update for the life of me. Tried turning on wifi, off and on HTC location service, disabling 3G, whatever I do it won't pull current weather data.
Maybe there just isn't anything to pull for Maitland, which is where I am at the moment, because the manual Orlando entry downloads fine. I wish there were a way to choose the location for my Cookie's hometab so it didn't show an incorrect thunderstorm.
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I've been playing with it all afternoon at work(aren't they happy about that), and can't get it to update for the life of me. Tried turning on wifi, off and on HTC location service, disabling 3G, whatever I do it won't pull current weather data.
Maybe there just isn't anything to pull for Maitland, which is where I am at the moment, because the manual Orlando entry downloads fine. I wish there were a way to choose the location for my Cookie's hometab so it didn't show an incorrect thunderstorm.
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Try Oviedo! lol j/k
There's actually an app around xda somewhere that lets you add cities that aren't in manila's database by default. I don't remember the exact location or name, but it works on multiple devices so it might just be in the general section. I'll try to look for it more when I get home later but you might find someone who remembers the name before I do, or just find it through searching.
It works!
For same reason that I don't know, my location is working fine today in Orlando, on 3G, H, and wifi...
Have you tried QuickGPS?? Works beautifully!!!!!
Make sure you have a data connection turned on... If you don't, it will not update automatically to your city or weather...
Hi guys,
I don't know how many of you are living in UK or if you experience this in other parts of the world. Basically there's one thing that really annoys me and I can't figure out WHAT'S causing it!
I am well satisfied with my Leo but as to web services I am not so enthusiastic. Firstly I've given up on "My location & weather" services exactly the same way as I did on Blackstone. I just don't bother setting them up after ROM update, so they don't show up on the homescreen and I turn the weather tab off instantly after flash. Reason being: THEY ONLY UPDATE IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS EVEN THOUGH I'VE GOT FULL HSDPA OR 3G SIGNAL COVERAGE ALMOST EVERYWHERE I GO!!!
No idea why this is happening. At home where I've got full 3G and GPRS signal coverage, it updates quickly and nicely. But when I go to work where there's full HSDPA, 3G and also GPRS it will not update whatever trick I try!!! It just pops out a message about not being able to connect... Same thing in town centre and other locations. It seems totally random to me where it works and where it doesn't. And folks: I just hate having 12 hours old location and weather report on my screeen before coming back home or wherever it decides to work!
Now secondly, similar thing happens with web browsers. Because of unsupported flash in Opera I have started using Skyfire in larger scale and recently also the uZARD, if anyone came across to that. They are both good browsers (in my opinion the uZard is nearing perfection!) but strangely a similar issue to the one above comes with them. Again they only seem to work in certain places and again there is quite a decent data coverage almost everywhere in my area.
So the question is: does it have something to do with data services of my network (UK Orange) or is it something radio related maybe? I have tried 2.06, 2.08 and 2.10 radios and there wasn't any significant difference.
Does it ring a bell? Did anyone experience this?
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Hi guys,
I don't know how many of you are living in UK or if you experience this in other parts of the world. Basically there's one thing that really annoys me and I can't figure out WHAT'S causing it!
I am well satisfied with my Leo but as to web services I am not so enthusiastic. Firstly I've given up on "My location & weather" services exactly the same way as I did on Blackstone. I just don't bother setting them up after ROM update, so they don't show up on the homescreen and I turn the weather tab off instantly after flash. Reason being: THEY ONLY UPDATE IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS EVEN THOUGH I'VE GOT FULL HSDPA OR 3G SIGNAL COVERAGE ALMOST EVERYWHERE I GO!!!
No idea why this is happening. At home where I've got full 3G and GPRS signal coverage, it updates quickly and nicely. But when I go to work where there's full HSDPA, 3G and also GPRS it will not update whatever trick I try!!! It just pops out a message about not being able to connect... Same thing in town centre and other locations. It seems totally random to me where it works and where it doesn't. And folks: I just hate having 12 hours old location and weather report on my screeen before coming back home or wherever it decides to work!
Now secondly, similar thing happens with web browsers. Because of unsupported flash in Opera I have started using Skyfire in larger scale and recently also the uZARD, if anyone came across to that. They are both good browsers (in my opinion the uZard is nearing perfection!) but strangely a similar issue to the one above comes with them. Again they only seem to work in certain places and again there is quite a decent data coverage almost everywhere in my area.
So the question is: does it have something to do with data services of my network (UK Orange) or is it something radio related maybe? I have tried 2.06, 2.08 and 2.10 radios and there wasn't any significant difference.
Does it ring a bell? Did anyone experience this?
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I'm on o2 I'm and have found the new 2.10th radios to give an extra bar and speed improvements network wise. the latest is awesome but consumes more battery life for me so i went back to 2.10.50.08.2
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Im on Virgin in the UK, where i live i have full signal where ever i i am in my town, my location doesn't work simple, i added my own city, my internet works fine, now i have been house sitting for my dad for 2 weeks in a little village, 2 weeks only just had 1 bar of signal and my location worked now wtf is that all about lol, oh my radio in my sig
Im on tmobile uk and when I'm at home I'm lucky if I get 1 bar of 3g coverage, if I dont I'll only get 2 bars of gprs, then again we are behind a ruddy great hill, most other urban areas give good 3g, however like the OP says sometimes theres an issue with speed and location not updating (or updating to the wrong location) despite full coverage
My gf is on vodafone and at home shes lucky if she gets one bar of gprs
But then thats what she deserves for having a iphone!
I've never tried another radio but I'm considering it
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Just to let you guys know, UK Orange was going through some major technical difficulties with their 3G network lately. So that has been the cause for trouble with browsers.
But the first problem I've mentioned is a fact that MY LOCATION and WEATHER still only updates on certain (random) places, regardless the signal coverage or radio version!!!
Works fine for me wherever I go on O2 as long as I have somes signal, just takes longer on GPRS.
In my experience of friends on Orange, they've never been good.
Try SPB weather and see if that works.
Alternatively, try updating in an Orange shop, if it fails, ask if you can use one of their handsets to try, and if that works, you'll know it's a problem with your phone so time to get it replaced, if it doesn't work, you'll know Orange are just poo.
Weather Locations has never worked for me. Just look for the cab named something like Dutty's disable current location and it will remove that my location entry in the weather so it will never bother you. Then just manually add your city and job done!
As for the web browsers not working, i had intermittent drops (its ok now tho). but what i did before, was disable HDSPA. the phone kept switching betweeen 3g and hdspa and cudnt make its mind up, and so it wouldnt connect to the net. But as you said Orange have been messing up so it should work soon.
morningstar.fallen said:
Just to let you guys know, UK Orange was going through some major technical difficulties with their 3G network lately. So that has been the cause for trouble with browsers.
But the first problem I've mentioned is a fact that MY LOCATION and WEATHER still only updates on certain (random) places, regardless the signal coverage or radio version!!!
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I have to ask how often is it set to update? i have mine set to update every 3 hours and it does. The location accuracy can be a little off at times but i don't really rely on it and if i do notice i'll do a manual update which works first time 99% of the time.
Poor 3G/HSDPA signal (2 bars or less) will cause some crazy packet loss and will cause problems with internet connectivity in general. Most often the phone will fall back to EDGE and then GPRS in order to correct this (but for saking the speed). If the signal is still crap then there is no hope. I'm on O2 and my radio version is in my signature. I was using 2.07 (stock) and that wasn't brilliant and i have heard that the newer radios suck the battery and the wifi isn't so great.
If your signal is pants even with the new radio i would advise you lay your hands on an extended battery and leave the wifi chip turned on. Then if you configure to connect any unsecure networks first as soon as it finds one you'll have net access.
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I have to ask how often is it set to update? i have mine set to update every 3 hours and it does. The location accuracy can be a little off at times but i don't really rely on it and if i do notice i'll do a manual update which works first time 99% of the time.
Poor 3G/HSDPA signal (2 bars or less) will cause some crazy packet loss and will cause problems with internet connectivity in general. Most often the phone will fall back to EDGE and then GPRS in order to correct this (but for saking the speed). If the signal is still crap then there is no hope. I'm on O2 and my radio version is in my signature. I was using 2.07 (stock) and that wasn't brilliant and i have heard that the newer radios suck the battery and the wifi isn't so great.
If your signal is pants even with the new radio i would advise you lay your hands on an extended battery and leave the wifi chip turned on. Then if you configure to connect any unsecure networks first as soon as it finds one you'll have net access.
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Hi,
It was set to update every 1 hour and as I said before, there's quite decent signal coverage in my area. I usually have full HSDPA and 3G signal at work and about half of 3G and full GPRS at home. The only time I can think of when I have poor or no connection is on the train (when passing through places with funny welsh names like Llanharran or Pontyclun... ). Still MY LOCATION won't update at work, or central train station or city centre. As a paradox, it updates nicely at home...
Anyway, for sake of having the weather animation on and updating, I have used Dutty's "Disable current location" cab mentioned above. Now the weather service updates fine on manually chosen locations. So bye bye MY LOCATION...
I'm on O2 (UK) and have noticed that all but my local transmitter actually allows weather/location updates.
I did a pretty big test - I drove from the south coast to Edinburgh the other week, and had it updating every 15 mins.
It updated every step of the way.
I'm sitting at home, and it doesn't update.
I've already got hold of my local O2 engineer and he is looking into it as he thinks he knows what the problem is.
The Problem is Orange.....
morningstar.fallen said:
Hi guys,
I don't know how many of you are living in UK or if you experience this in other parts of the world. Basically there's one thing that really annoys me and I can't figure out WHAT'S causing it!
I am well satisfied with my Leo but as to web services I am not so enthusiastic. Firstly I've given up on "My location & weather" services exactly the same way as I did on Blackstone. I just don't bother setting them up after ROM update, so they don't show up on the homescreen and I turn the weather tab off instantly after flash. Reason being: THEY ONLY UPDATE IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS EVEN THOUGH I'VE GOT FULL HSDPA OR 3G SIGNAL COVERAGE ALMOST EVERYWHERE I GO!!!
No idea why this is happening. At home where I've got full 3G and GPRS signal coverage, it updates quickly and nicely. But when I go to work where there's full HSDPA, 3G and also GPRS it will not update whatever trick I try!!! It just pops out a message about not being able to connect... Same thing in town centre and other locations. It seems totally random to me where it works and where it doesn't. And folks: I just hate having 12 hours old location and weather report on my screeen before coming back home or wherever it decides to work!
Now secondly, similar thing happens with web browsers. Because of unsupported flash in Opera I have started using Skyfire in larger scale and recently also the uZARD, if anyone came across to that. They are both good browsers (in my opinion the uZard is nearing perfection!) but strangely a similar issue to the one above comes with them. Again they only seem to work in certain places and again there is quite a decent data coverage almost everywhere in my area.
So the question is: does it have something to do with data services of my network (UK Orange) or is it something radio related maybe? I have tried 2.06, 2.08 and 2.10 radios and there wasn't any significant difference.
Does it ring a bell? Did anyone experience this?
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I had the same problem in East Anglia with Orange
Switch of 3g and the weather will update
GPRS data works fine, but 3g/hsdpa data was not working i complained to orange and looked on the net loads of other people in this area were having the same trouble....(voice was fine though)
About 2 weeks ago it started working fine except when im surfing i get 'orange safeguard' blocking sites ...it even blocks this site!
its not because ive got safeguard enabled. it's because orange cant establish my identity!
I bet if streamed loads of TV they would identify me for sure...
on orange in cardiff aswel, i find that even though i have a strong 3g signal some times the internet just doesn't work,which gets really annoying, as normally have to terminate the 3g connection then restart it to work.
been reading this thread if any intrest
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614119&page=45
it says about people using the chucky tabtastic ROM, and the problem is gone. but I'm happy with the ROM I'm using, so really wish i knew a fix for this!
On O2 in Nottingham and just recently it's been awful.
I've gone through a multitude of radios and none work with data properly. Weather services always show "My Location" or cannot update. Google maps takes about 10mins to load one square of the map (so GPS navigation is out of the question as the marker moves to a region of the map that isn't updated and takes forever to load).
Opera can now take anywhere between 15 seconds and 5 minutes just to load the Google homepage.
Thing is, about 2 months ago it was perfect, speedy as anything, running fine. Like I said i've gone through various radio roms and have settled on 2.10.50.08_2 at the mo as it gives the best battery life for me, but even with full 3g/hsdpa signals i get rubbish data performance.
I know that stopping and starting the data connection sometimes fixes it, but I'm not prepared to continually stop and start connections just to be able to browse the web.
I've tried switching from 3G to 2G mode at work so the device started using GPRS signal instead of HSDPA but there was no joy either. Initially I would incline to idea that this would be a problem of Orange UK only but it seems now that people using other networks are experiencing the same. I wish I could only guess how much of this is caused by the technical breakdown Orange UK (and maybe other networks?) were recently going through. I think the actual efficiency of MY LOCATION service in UK was never great...
I'm on Vodafone, Kingston upon Thames,
Radio: 2.10.50.26 (Leon Rom)
Had the same problems ( almost all stated in here ) with the new radio i have full bars 70% of the time on almost all connections at home, and before, i used to have 1 max 2 (the house is in a "bad"/"blind" vodafone coverage area), so this radio seems to work for me.
Still:
the weather i won't mention that it never worked regardless of signal or not, regardless of the connection or radio... then i found something into the menu under the GPS folder... called Quick GPS . I realized that is not a data download problem (as any manually set out location works), it was just a simple "i will tell you the local weather info as soon as i bloody find out where the heck we are" phone problem.
Well all you have to do, is set up the satellites to download automatically and/or update manually when you travel extreme distances... it will definitely improve location tracking as it sets the "default" satellites settings in your area, and to be honest with you, since i set that up, i NEVER had weather/location problems at home or anywhere else. Is just a small tweak witch you won't realize is linked directly to the location service until you open the Quick GPS thing.
For the radio, at least for vodafone users, i recommend the above one. just give it a try as it has decent battery life and a better connection, also everywhere i go i seem to have a working stable connection for data (at least for me it worked, and i do travel alot, needles to say that my laptop gets it's internet from my phone during travels, so bye bye dongle ).
Give it a try, it may really work out.
Initially I would incline to idea that this would be a problem of Orange UK only but it seems now that people using other networks are experiencing the same.
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hmm... i think is not related to networks more than it needs the network connection to download data (especially that you said the connections are working fine most of the times), location is definitely related to the GPS receiver and the GPS settings (Global Positioning System remember? witch in my book is Location ...), witch apparently on the Leos around UK are not set properly by default.
This is probably why mine works flawlessly. I set WM to use the inbuilt GPS all the time so i don't have to mess about with turning it on in google maps. I don't use QuickGPS because that is about as accurate as as dropping a brick out of a plane at 35,000ft with your eyes closed. Atleast with proper GPS it's accurate to within 20 metres.
when i had the tmobile g1, weather plugin worked almost flawlessly with only odd times it didnt update correctly. but with the hd2 ive been having the same problem recently on tmobile (was on tmobile wiwith the g1 aswell).
Im using the eu rom that allows 576mb ram .
Ive just flashed a new rom and it seems to have detected my location just fine at home. I will know tomorrow when i go to work if it upodates correctly.
DikoMike said:
I'm on Vodafone, Kingston upon Thames,
Radio: 2.10.50.26 (Leon Rom)
Had the same problems ( almost all stated in here ) with the new radio i have full bars 70% of the time on almost all connections at home, and before, i used to have 1 max 2 (the house is in a "bad"/"blind" vodafone coverage area), so this radio seems to work for me.
Still:
the weather i won't mention that it never worked regardless of signal or not, regardless of the connection or radio... then i found something into the menu under the GPS folder... called Quick GPS . I realized that is not a data download problem (as any manually set out location works), it was just a simple "i will tell you the local weather info as soon as i bloody find out where the heck we are" phone problem.
Well all you have to do, is set up the satellites to download automatically and/or update manually when you travel extreme distances... it will definitely improve location tracking as it sets the "default" satellites settings in your area, and to be honest with you, since i set that up, i NEVER had weather/location problems at home or anywhere else. Is just a small tweak witch you won't realize is linked directly to the location service until you open the Quick GPS thing.
For the radio, at least for vodafone users, i recommend the above one. just give it a try as it has decent battery life and a better connection, also everywhere i go i seem to have a working stable connection for data (at least for me it worked, and i do travel alot, needles to say that my laptop gets it's internet from my phone during travels, so bye bye dongle ).
Give it a try, it may really work out.
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Thanks for the post man Ive been trying many different Radios to get a stable connection with VF I also live in an iffy area so i'll give this one a try and see if it works for me!
I'm also now using a 2.13 rom so it seems that the radio will match
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This is probably why mine works flawlessly. I set WM to use the inbuilt GPS all the time so i don't have to mess about with turning it on in google maps. I don't use QuickGPS because that is about as accurate as as dropping a brick out of a plane at 35,000ft with your eyes closed. Atleast with proper GPS it's accurate to within 20 metres.
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So how exactly did you set your GPS to work all the time?
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So how exactly did you set your GPS to work all the time?
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easy! go into settings in sense, hit menu, all settings. Then go to the system folder and external GPS and set a com port (mine is set to com4)
Job done. Sense will pick it up automatically and then all you need to do is tell google maps it's configued by windows.
Finally disable quickgps by hitting start, tools quickgps and then menu options and uncheck "download quickgps automatically" and "download quickgps when roaming" this will stop it updating when not connected to the pc and save on your data plan if it's limited but allows for a backup to the true gps if for some reason all the satellites get taken out.
**edit** i picked up this tip from a collegue that had a touch pro (well we all did but i left before they got the n900 upgrades) and a tomtom external bluetooth receiver and it appears to work with the internal reveiver on newer devices