Hello guys, im new to the forum and this type of phone so pardon me if i come across ignorant i can assure you this is not through arrogance, i have searched the website for 2days and could not find any advice on this matter and get this message 99% of the time! "Connection error while attempting to download weather data, retry?" (keeps happening no matter how many times i retry)
I have tried hard reset, soft reset even changed my network thinking the data reception was bad but this still seems to be the case where ever i am positioned with my phone.
This is an awesome phone, but an incredibly consuming one that can be frustrating at times! without the guys on this forum I dont think I would have lasted one day!
Any help would be much appreciated!
Make sure your 3G settings do not include "this network connects through a proxy".
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Make sure your 3G settings do not include "this network connects through a proxy".
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i have the same problem and already do that but nothing, always the connection error too!
just a question, you have problem with the connection only when you are trying to download weather update?
Hi,
I get this issue depending on my location. At my home I will get this message, but when I am at my office in Birmingham, it would update the my location weather no problems.
I think that if the place you are trying to get weather data for, is not on the database, then it will give an error. Because the software is not intelligent enough to find the 'nearest' place to your location.
The other problem can be caused by your telecoms, and how your 3g data is routed. As other have mentioned, this might be fixed with the proxy setting.
Oh, and I think you need to be receiving a 3g signal for this to work, I've never seen it work over GPRS...
To be honest, I've disabled the auto updating feature of this now. Because if I really needed to know about the weather of 'my location', I can always take a peek outside!
Sorry that you can't find any information on this. I'm surprised as I think it could possibly be the 2nd most asked question on here behind the old issues with slow SMS delivery. Here a summary of my understanding.
A local Cell tower is used to provide My Location data. Not all locations can be automatically updated Using My Location but most (can be automatically updated by adding the location to a list. A data connection is required and you need to enable Google location services.
It is known behavour for the My Location to all of a sudden start working when you are out and about as your phone connects to a different cell tower in a different location. I for one cannot get My Location dataq in Cheltenham but when I go to Gloucester I can get around 4 different "locations" on my way to work.
There was talk that part of this might be related to multiple locations having the same name and this causing problems with My Location selecting the correct data from the Accuweather database.
Hope this helps a bit althoughn I doubt we will get a fix.
I cannot currently remember if people with different service providers have different behavours with this service.
I got the same problem after using the Sim Contacts Fix... Found out that the stupid update changed the connection and told it to use a proxy server! Check if ur phone did the same thing as mine!
I can get my updates no probs without 3g, have no 3g coverage at the house at all, but what I have found is that when the weather would not work properly, and was giving the wrong location, I logged onto google maps, got a gps fix, and now the weather gives a spot on location, a very small village, that i would doubt being in any database.
I reckon weather pulls the location from the gps fix in googlemaps...
Just a thought.........
kjettern said:
I got the same problem after using the Sim Contacts Fix... Found out that the stupid update changed the connection and told it to use a proxy server! Check if ur phone did the same thing as mine!
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I think that is a slightly differemt issue caussing a similar effect. This issue has been around since the firat HD2 was released and mostly related to MyLocation successfully updating when in one area and not in another, with the same connectivity settings.
Regards.
to OP...
I too have failed to find a proper resolution to the "connection error...".
I know it can work on my phone, as I've seen it work perfectly around Devon & Bournemouth, both indoors and outdoors.
IMHO, it's definately a problem with Accuweather's database, regardless of connection type.
I used Duttys Disable Current Location cab to switch the pointless thing off.
Maybe one day someone will find a way to make it work for everywhere.
pastypacker said:
I can get my updates no probs without 3g, have no 3g coverage at the house at all, but what I have found is that when the weather would not work properly, and was giving the wrong location, I logged onto google maps, got a gps fix, and now the weather gives a spot on location, a very small village, that i would doubt being in any database.
I reckon weather pulls the location from the gps fix in googlemaps...
Just a thought.........
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Hi,
Im interested. How do you get your weather updates? Are you using Wifi or do you believe that it is all done via GPS? Now a silly question, sorry. Do you now have your village as a defined location or is it only "My Location" that is automatically updating?
Regards.
cMMY69 said:
Hi,
Im interested. How do you get your weather updates? Are you using Wifi or do you believe that it is all done via GPS? Now a silly question, sorry. Do you now have your village as a defined location or is it only "My Location" that is automatically updating?
Regards.
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At home, im using wifi, thelocation im referring to is the one that shows on the home screen after update, the nearest defined location that can be searched for is over 60 miles away in Plymouth.
I will try a non wifi update when i walk the dog again later, and see what that brings.....
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just a question, you have problem with the connection only when you are trying to download weather update?
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Yes all other apps and data features work like a dream, including google maps,
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Yes all other apps and data features work like a dream, including google maps,
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well i have the same thing here...happens to me as well, i was thinking may be it is acuweather and our current location. Having said that i have not changed any thing in my 3 g connections. 50% of the tome works. so i am not really fussed about it
To the OP (and anyone), please also report this issue to HTC self via their website. If they know about this issue, maybe they can make a fix for it .
I had same problem and tried these:
Switched to airplane mode and wifi on. Tried update and successfully updated.
Switched to phone on wifi off. Tried update and not updated.
Removed all cities. Tried update for my location and successfully updated.
Added some cities. Tried update and not updated.
Weird
For me the weather location is working generally fine, even if often it doesn't recognize a town (smaller ones) and instead shows "My Location" instead of a name. The update is only working when I have EDGE or 3G coverage (or WiFi), not when only GPRS.
What is very strange for me is, that when not on WiFi (then all works fine), i.e. when on the phone network, it updates well some cities, and some won't (the ones which won't are two of the cities I added in the beginning to the list, i.e. Geneva and Nuremberg). All other cities I added work well for the updated. I wonder if it has something to do with the fact that I added them at a specific moment. When I deleted these cities and put them back in the list it won't help. I wonder if you can reset the weather program without making a hard reset, in order to see if it would help.
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Settings>connections>connections>advanced>select networks>edit (your gsm operator gprs/3g settings)>edit>next>next>advanced>servers
Select use specific server address and enter a dns . I'm using google dns 8.8.8.8.
Click OK>finish and yes to do you want to save changes. Click OK until connections window. Soft reset and try to update weather.
This happened to me when I removed JVH3 Weather City Editor.
once I reinstalled it, my error has gone away.
Ron
Have had the HD2 for a few weeks now, with no problems with weather. Went on holiday, came back, and getting the error as per this thread. Strangely it seemed like I was getting the update, then getting the error afterwards.
Spoke to my provider (T-mobile) who were next to useless (well that's unfair, I guess they suggested a lot of things but none worked).
Took out all cities from the application and updated - worked fine (and this was over GPRS as one of things T-mobile had me do was switch Band under phone settings (All Settings/Personal/Phone/GSM/UTMS Services/Band/Get Settings)).
Could it be as simple as an error in the weather data for ANY city causing the problem - not just your location? My location at home always seems to be detected fine...
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Dear forum users,
I'm a happy user WM6.5 with TF3D 2.1. The weather at my location is updated nicely, however there's 1 issue I don't understand:
When I look at my home screen it still says 'My Location' instead of the city name where I live in (Ho Chi Minh city)...this is different from many screenshot I've seen on this forum where weather forecast city names are displayed nicely on home screen.
does anyone have an idea how I could fix this?
Thanks in advance for any ideas/support.
Best regards,
Nghia
Hi there,
I'm having exactly the same problem. The weather tab just stays at 'My location', as does the home tab. I've manually added the city I live in to display the weather, but I'd like to know how to get the phone to automatically detect it. Any help?
I had this problem too and tried lots of fixes I read about here and none of them worked. Then I tried going into my phone settings and changing my phone from "auto" in the Network field to "manual" and then selecting T-Mobile. I'm thinking it was finding AT&T and not being able to determine my location.
Settings>Personal>Phone>Network>Network Selection
After doing this and restarting the phone (airplane mode on/off) it detected "My Location" on the weather tab and then on the clock. I'm in SW Florida and am new to T-mo so i don't know if this will have any undesirable effects.
Not sure if this will affect my roaming, but I don't really roam much so I should be ok. See if it works for you guys.
Hi cocytan,
Could you tell me how to add city manually? My city is not listed in weather list of my phone. I have att, touch2 came from tmo unlock. When I try to update, it said something about not able to connect to dns and web2go.
Thanks.
Same problem here with Blackstone ROM
RUU_Dutty's_HD_WM6.5_5.2.23016.5.0.3_Leo_R5.zip
Update Radio to
HD_Blackstone_Radio_1.14.25.24
Can't get My Location to work...
Did you guys try my tip of manually selecting your mobile carrier in settings>phone>network and set it to manual and then select your carrier? I tried everything before this, and it's worked on every ROM I tried it on.
You can always set it back to automatic if it doesn't work or impacts your roaming.
I'm just curious if others see this fix working, then maybe we can collectively figure out why it's happening to us (is it location, carriers, ROM versions, etc.)
-Joel
Hi a042349,
manually selecting the carrier didn't work for me.
But I read somewhere else that it could work when you enable Wifi.
Doesn't need to be connected, just enabling should do the trick.
And it worked for me!
I tried the wifi trick and it didn't work for me. All my testing was done at my house with only my wifi in range (I live in the country) and it didn't matter if I was using it or not - no MyLocation data until I manually selected T-Mobile.
I'm on T-Mobile in Cape Coral FL - are you on Tmo too? Did you try driving around to pick up different cell towers? As I said all my testing has been at hoime, so not a lot of "variety" in what it could pick up over the air.
-Joel
Hi Joel,
I am on T-Mobile, but it's over here in Germany...
I didn't try different cell towers.
Looks like you have to try both, when encoutering the problem.
Is anyone here who tried both and it still didn't work?
If u change system lang on registry, it´ll work.
Mui lang=0XXX
Cheers.
i tried all of your suggestions but nothing helped it worked one time but since then ...
Gotta say i've only ever had it working once, and even then it was very inaccurate (brought up somewhere about 20 miles away).
I've tried every radio, manual network selection, turning 3g off, i also had to add my own town into the database and nothing works.
Using google maps with wifi, 3g, grps it finds my location to with in 500 metres, with gps it's spot on, so i know that aspect of it works.
However using the weather my location, it rotates between 3 different locations (One is about 1 mile away and the other 2 are about 5 miles away). It'll bring up the name, but always gives me the "There was a connection error while attempting to download weather data. Retry?" message.
so i'm at a loss as to how to get this working.
My location is working for me, i'm using the tmob radio(not the one in my sig but it worked with that one too) its showing a village about a mile from me, and the same on my wifes Hero-Stock ROM. all ive done is load latest Google maps and wait for it to find my location then exit, go to weather tab and select download weather automatically then back, a screen appears to accept google data download, accept then it works,
it seems my location is only as accurate as google maps as it uses the tower positions around you to triangulate you approximate position, when i'm in a town or city it shows that place. i dunno what else to suggest changing my radio helped. i'm not using 3g, maybe that helps?
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If u change system lang on registry, it´ll work.
Mui lang=0XXX
Cheers.
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Interesting
Which setting for syslang would I have to use?
I am in Germany, but my Windows Mobile is English.
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My location is working for me, i'm using the tmob radio(not the one in my sig but it worked with that one too) its showing a village about a mile from me, and the same on my wifes Hero-Stock ROM. all ive done is load latest Google maps and wait for it to find my location then exit, go to weather tab and select download weather automatically then back, a screen appears to accept google data download, accept then it works,
it seems my location is only as accurate as google maps as it uses the tower positions around you to triangulate you approximate position, when i'm in a town or city it shows that place. i dunno what else to suggest changing my radio helped. i'm not using 3g, maybe that helps?
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I've tried doing everything the same as above and no dice.
Like i said google maps my location feature is pretty accurate for me.
Using google maps with wifi, 3g, grps it finds my location to with in 500 metres, with gps it's spot on.
Sorry i can't help any further..its weird, i'm running At0ms 3.7 but i'm sure it also worked for me on previous builds,
i think on earlier builds i had to also switch data connection on in comms so it stays on - Actually i think this might be be key as i think My Location has trouble calling the data connection which is where your error message is coming from. i hope it works for you.
As you're on Vodafone you could try this reg setting for Agps i don't think it will make any difference but it may do..if nothing else there good settings!
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Sorry i can't help any further..its weird, i'm running At0ms 3.7 but i'm sure it also worked for me on previous builds,
i think on earlier builds i had to also switch data connection on in comms so it stays on - Actually i think this might be be key as i think My Location has trouble calling the data connection which is where your error message is coming from. i hope it works for you.
As you're on Vodafone you could try this reg setting for Agps i don't think it will make any difference but it may do..if nothing else there good settings!
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yeah it worked on fusion 3.5 but hasn't worked for me on any other rom.
TVM for the reg settings, i'll give them a whirl.
I've tried everything listed here and am unsuccessful on TF2D 2.5.
Does anyone have the original 2330fc3c_manila file they can upload from 2.5?
Thanks.
Bruce Inman said:
I've tried everything listed here and am unsuccessful on TF2D 2.5.
Does anyone have the original 2330fc3c_manila file they can upload from 2.5?
Thanks.
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I a running shadowline's 23064 build with 2.5.19133431. I was unable to get the location stuff working as well. I turned on all the location settings through SenseUI, but no go. I enabled Assisted GPS through Advanced Config (not sure if that is relevant). Still no go. I allowed my phone to connect up to my home WiFi, and instantly, it recognized my location as Seattle.
Not sure if it will work for others, but it worked for me.
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I a running shadowline's 23064 build with 2.5.19133431. I was unable to get the location stuff working as well. I turned on all the location settings through SenseUI, but no go. I enabled Assisted GPS through Advanced Config (not sure if that is relevant). Still no go. I allowed my phone to connect up to my home WiFi, and instantly, it recognized my location as Seattle.
Not sure if it will work for others, but it worked for me.
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That worked for me at my home in Germany.
Now I am in Italy on holidays.
Same infrastructure here. Working WiFi, too.
But it doesn't do the trick here.
My phone still thinks my location is Germany and any updates just fail.
Think, I am giving up with this build.
My home screen is not getting any weather display - when I run the weather app directly I can add locations and view the weather for them, but whenever it tries to update "My Location" it fails with a connection error. Any ideas? I'm using an O2 contract SIM card if that makes any difference (connected via WiFi also).
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My home screen is not getting any weather display - when I run the weather app directly I can add locations and view the weather for them, but whenever it tries to update "My Location" it fails with a connection error. Any ideas? I'm using an O2 contract SIM card if that makes any difference (connected via WiFi also).
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Pure guesswork here, but assuming you're indoors or have no GPS signal, your phone would try to use cell towers to locate you and give you the current weather. Using a WiFi connection probably means it can't locate you?
Try without WiFi on the first time so that it can get a location, and maybe subsequent updates via WiFi will assume that your "My Location" has stayed the same?
Just a guess but dose it need a GPS signal to get the location or does it take it off the cell towers.
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Pure guesswork here, but assuming you're indoors or have no GPS signal, your phone would try to use cell towers to locate you and give you the current weather. Using a WiFi connection probably means it can't locate you?
Try without WiFi on the first time so that it can get a location, and maybe subsequent updates via WiFi will assume that your "My Location" has stayed the same?
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It's not that unfortunately, I've tried it both with a GPS signal and with WiFi turned off. Google maps knows where I am also. Most odd.
i have the same problem today. Worked through Activesync this morning. Internet seems OK today but weather is showing a connection error!
Maybe the location service (or the weather service) is down?
I just disabled it from showing in weather tab by using duttys disable location cab. Couldn't get it to work either so its useless to me.
all ok here
It never worked correctly on the custom roms for HD - and everyone was putting it down to "pre-release" software lol. I either get a connection error or no weather for your location!!!
I wonder if it's related to your service provider - I'm with O2 UK, anybody else have the same and got this working please?
I found a semi-decent workaround at least - the location used on the home screen is the one you set as your own in the world clock tool. That can either be the dynamic "My Location" or a city of your choosing.
I'm with Vodafone, and it seems to be working fine for me. Did you make sure that the 'location' settings are set right? i.e. HTC location service is checked, and 'Improve location service by collecting data at any time when device is in use' is set to on?
also on vodafone and its working fine for me
Orange - not working
next time you're out and about, try to update the weather. I have a polaris with WM6.5 which refuses to update at my home location but drive 20m down the road and it finds my location and tells me the weather. unfortunately when i return home it won't update, it's stuck on the wrong place and time. very chuffing annoying. I'm on O2 contract. the "helpful" erk on the helpline advised that as my handset is not sold as WM6.5 they could not help, what a cop out - [email protected]
rivets
Still no joy here, tried as many different combinations and scenarios as I can think of. I guess it just won't work for me with my SIM card, for whatever reason.
I get that problem depending on where i am. I'm on o2 aswell.
I am on O2 and nver got it to work so disabled it.
I had to agree to use the Google location service to get the weather working.
Got my new HD2 this morning - very happy with it - love the screen, love HTC sense. Don't like the big ugly camera lens sticking out of the back and I am not liking some of my data issues.
Location/Weather - this morning I was in Tokyo, lunchtime Paris and this afternoon I was in Province of MoscRU - wherever that is. I'm in Reading. If I go to weather then click on Update Now I just get the message 'There was a connection error while attempting to download weather data. Retry?' It does seem to know what the weather is like in London but it doesn't take a brain surgeon to predict it's going to be 'Partly Cloudy' anywhere in the UK so I. On my home page I get no weather and no location.
YouTube - I had problems with that not connecting at all - error message to do with the connection but a hard reset sorted that out.
Facebook - All I get is rotating coloured balls for a couple of seconds and then the word Fetching... in the centre of the screen. On every page - apart from Info and there is a little data on there. It seemed to log in OK but doesn't want to show anything.
E-mail works fine - after I removed the proxy server tick
Browser works fine.
This is all on mobile network - I will try with wi-fi tonight - although wifi is not much use as if I have wifi then 99% of the time I have a PC.
Sorry if you think this should not have been a new thread but after searching the forum I found nothing too similar.
Is this just WM probs - I had a WM6.1 Touch HD in the past and most things sort of work when you have tweaked and messed around. I am moving from an iPhone now and for all the negative points of the iPhone it does mostly work.
Hope someone out there can help
I'm having a similiar problem myself. Funnily enough I'm in Reading also!
My weather doesn't update from my location, and I'm constantly in Toyko!
Haven't managed to get outlook working at all. Hotmail syns well, for maybe the first 10 minutes. Then doesn't do anything. I have tried the proxy trick, it was already unticked.
If I hard reset then hotmail will work again for a while.
I'm on vodafone however.
Any help will be good, am completely new to win mob!
having problems with it myself on TMobile. I'm gonna ring them in a bit and ask them about that proxy setting stuff. seems strange to have it auto setup if everyone has to turn it off. my YouTube doesn't work with or without it. Igot them to turn the child lock off last night.
I'm on 3UK. I can confirm that everything works beautifully on both wifi & 3G. Sounds to me like a T-Mobile issue. Perhaps you can just use Google Map to do a simple test (without using GPS) to see what location it thinks.
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On my home page I get no weather and no location.
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Sorry if you've already done this, but I had exactly the same issue when I first turned on my HD2 - no Sense location, no facebook login etc. But then I turned the phone off and on again and it all worked fine....
Certainly not a T-Mobile wide issue. Location and weather work without issue for me.
Facebook isn't working currently, but that's a facebook not a HD2 or T-Mobile issue (can only currently log in through m.facebook, not main site or apps).
Youtube - fine.
Luapo said:
I'm having a similiar problem myself. Funnily enough I'm in Reading also!
My weather doesn't update from my location, and I'm constantly in Toyko!
Haven't managed to get outlook working at all. Hotmail syns well, for maybe the first 10 minutes. Then doesn't do anything. I have tried the proxy trick, it was already unticked.
If I hard reset then hotmail will work again for a while.
I'm on vodafone however.
Any help will be good, am completely new to win mob!
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My weather / My Location updated fine when I went home (small village outside High Wycombe - I was impressed because it told me the village - not the nearest big town.
Cannot get Facebook to work - tried it with an O2 sim card - same problem.
In response to Wilbur - it has been turned on and off numerous times as well as several soft resets and 4 hard resets.
In response to ahaaee - I did try Google maps - it new exactly where I was. I assume Google maps uses GPS whereas My Location uses Mobile network triangulation - just a guess???
de5perate said:
My weather / My Location updated fine when I went home (small village outside High Wycombe - I was impressed because it told me the village - not the nearest big town.
Cannot get Facebook to work - tried it with an O2 sim card - same problem.
In response to Wilbur - it has been turned on and off numerous times as well as several soft resets and 4 hard resets.
In response to ahaaee - I did try Google maps - it new exactly where I was. I assume Google maps uses GPS whereas My Location uses Mobile network triangulation - just a guess???
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The majority of people aren't in the situation where a few paces in either direction would change your weather or time zone, so I don't the precision of GPS is really required.
That also more likely explains the bad locations. It's more likely that there's a tower or two in Reading that Google is getting confused about than it is that GPS would give such a random location for.
My weathet problem solved
Got my HD2 today. Had the same problem with weather/Location. Here is a very simple fix which worked for me:
http://forum.o2.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=31017&start=30&sid=ac2d55db9769fa7a8f60fb5272a3a491
For some reason, Google's location service and AccuWeather don't play together nicely in some parts of the country. You can work around the bug though by tapping the clock on the home tab (to get the "World Clock" screen), adding your (nearest) city and selecting it - the weather and time for that city will then always be shown (it won't automatically change location when you do, anymore). Also, obviously you can just add the relevant location in the weather tab to fix the problem there. The Hero has the same problem in the same locations, which makes it likely (but not certain) that it's not HTC's fault.
Anyone else having Problems with my location not showing weather and saying Unable to download weather... The clock will work but i have to manually put a location in to get weather on my phone.
nardone24 said:
Anyone else having Problems with my location not showing weather and saying Unable to download weather... The clock will work but i have to manually put a location in to get weather on my phone.
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are you sure you have location services turned on in settings?
same problem
im also having that problem... i made sure all the location services are activated and still nothing
No other issues with data or cell reception/connection at that time?
V1R3Z said:
im also having that problem... i made sure all the location services are activated and still nothing
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if ur on the rom that came with the device ur the problem but if u moded the rom sayin u downloaded a rom from xda or members then u need to go back to the rom thread u downloaded ur rom from and let them in that rom help u and always remember to do a search before startin a new thread
Did my research, im on stock rom location services enabled. No reception problems
But thanx anyway...
Are you connected to a PC? If so try this
On the Windows Mobile Device Center window under Settings click Connection Settings. Then uncheck Allow data connections on device when connected to PC and select The Internet for This computer is connected to. I don't recall much about activesync, but I think it has something similar.
I ran into a similar issue and this solved it.
nardone24 said:
Did my research, im on stock rom location services enabled. No reception problems
But thanx anyway...
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It doesn’t work for me either. Actually, doesn’t work in Orlando area, but if I go to other cities here in Florida it does (on 3g or not)
The only way that I can make it to work here is turning on the wifi without connecting to any wifi, then turn it off and tap “ Uptade Now” or tap "update now" while the wifi is searching for connection.
ya i called t-mobile about this yesterday there sending me a replacement phone mybe its a hardware problem
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ya i called t-mobile about this yesterday there sending me a replacement phone mybe its a hardware problem
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Mmmm, I don't think it's a hardware problem, at least for me. It does work in other areas.
@ nardone, etc....are you all able to open google maps and get any localization there (either with or without satellites)?
On the few occassions I've had problems getting "my location" to update, it was cleared up as soon as I opened gmaps and got a full lock...so you can try that, at least make sure that it's not a hardware issue.
Hey, a fellow Orlando-an! I have the exact same problem with the My Location service here. I have Orlando put in as a manual location, and it updates every couple of hours as its supposed to. But for the My Location, it hasn't updated in 3 days.
Nothing more annoying than going outside in the blinding heat and sun to look down on your phone that says you are in the middle of a thunderstorm.
It doesn't seem to be a problem with the GPS or location system, as it updates my location fine(currently in Maitland, not Orlando, which is correct). But it doesn't download the weather for this location properly. Very troubling...
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Hey, a fellow Orlando-an! I have the exact same problem with the My Location service here. I have Orlando put in as a manual location, and it updates every couple of hours as its supposed to. But for the My Location, it hasn't updated in 3 days.
Nothing more annoying than going outside in the blinding heat and sun to look down on your phone that says you are in the middle of a thunderstorm.
It doesn't seem to be a problem with the GPS or location system, as it updates my location fine(currently in Maitland, not Orlando, which is correct). But it doesn't download the weather for this location properly. Very troubling...
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Go Magic!...
I'm not sure what's the problem. As I said it works on wifi and even when wifi is on and not connected to any network. It does work fine on Edge here in Orlando and also worked in 3G in Miami and Las Vegas.
I've been playing with it all afternoon at work(aren't they happy about that), and can't get it to update for the life of me. Tried turning on wifi, off and on HTC location service, disabling 3G, whatever I do it won't pull current weather data.
Maybe there just isn't anything to pull for Maitland, which is where I am at the moment, because the manual Orlando entry downloads fine. I wish there were a way to choose the location for my Cookie's hometab so it didn't show an incorrect thunderstorm.
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I've been playing with it all afternoon at work(aren't they happy about that), and can't get it to update for the life of me. Tried turning on wifi, off and on HTC location service, disabling 3G, whatever I do it won't pull current weather data.
Maybe there just isn't anything to pull for Maitland, which is where I am at the moment, because the manual Orlando entry downloads fine. I wish there were a way to choose the location for my Cookie's hometab so it didn't show an incorrect thunderstorm.
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Try Oviedo! lol j/k
There's actually an app around xda somewhere that lets you add cities that aren't in manila's database by default. I don't remember the exact location or name, but it works on multiple devices so it might just be in the general section. I'll try to look for it more when I get home later but you might find someone who remembers the name before I do, or just find it through searching.
It works!
For same reason that I don't know, my location is working fine today in Orlando, on 3G, H, and wifi...
Have you tried QuickGPS?? Works beautifully!!!!!
Make sure you have a data connection turned on... If you don't, it will not update automatically to your city or weather...
So this past week I was having tons of issues with the cell-tower triangulation on my Nexus One. I've tried multiple things such as restarting, toggling the "Use Network Location" and mostly everything short of resetting the phone to factory default.
So I was playing around in the Applications menu and decided to just mess around with all the items there. Then, after clearing the cache on the "Google Framework" option, force closing, then restarting my phone, I was finally able to get cell phone triangulation working again!
The problem continues though, because after said procedure I was unable to access the market, or the downloaded section of the store only had 2 items listed. So I did another restart, the market works, but the cellphone triangulation breaks again.
Does anyone have a solution?
well sounds like somethings haywire on the software side of things, i'd try a factory reset/reflashing your current rom etc. or you could just use GPS i suppose
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The problem continues though, because after said procedure I was unable to access the market, or the downloaded section of the store only had 2 items listed. So I did another restart, the market works, but the cellphone triangulation breaks again.
Does anyone have a solution?
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Market problems are generally due to the ROM you're using, although most cooks have that sorted immediately. What ROM are you using?
And I've never heard of anyone anything on the Framework, maybe that in itself was kind of dumb? Have you rebooted or such to see if it clears up?
So what is the issue anyway? Where are you observing that cell tower info isn't working? And you've double checked, and maybe toggled off/on the setting for this?
OP, does triangulation work for you on EDGE?
I've been in this state (2G triangulation works but 3G does not) for about two weeks now.
Most probably a T-Mobile or Google data base issue...
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OP, does triangulation work for you on EDGE?
I've been in this state (2G triangulation works but 3G does not) for about two weeks now.
Most probably a T-Mobile or Google data base issue...
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This is true, at one point T-Mobile and 3G the lookups didn't work.. but I haven't heard this in a long time so I'd think
I really wish people would stop referring to it a "triangulation" though, it's estimation based on tower location and possibly data from Cell+Wifi+GPS data that Google has collected. There's no calculation going on.
I am glad someone brought this up. I thought it was just me.
'Estimation' works with EDGE on, but not otherwise. If EDGE is off, Google Maps takes me to the last estimated position!
I am sure something is broken in Maps.
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This is true, at one point T-Mobile and 3G the lookups didn't work.. but I haven't heard this in a long time so I'd think
I really wish people would stop referring to it a "triangulation" though, it's estimation based on tower location and possibly data from Cell+Wifi+GPS data that Google has collected. There's no calculation going on.
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OK, I believe accurate terminology would be "multilateration"
(there is an excellent Wiki article on this) which in turn is based on triangulation. The calculation is done either by the network, e.g. T-Mobile, or by Google based on the location of nearby towers...
I have the same problem as the OP. It occured since Tuesday of last week. I am also on Rogers in the Toronto and GTA region. Use wireless networks is checked under settings. The Enable location setting in the browser is also checked. However, when using 3G, location is unavailable when using the browser and it is also unavailable in the news and weather widget. RadioTime does not pick up my location either. In addition, when I travel into Toronto, the location in google maps is not updated to my new tower location. The location remains in Markham. Strange thing is that when I am on WIFI, location is available. I have tried using EDGE, same problem. I have also tried resetting to factory settings but no luck. I can confirm one of my coworkers is getting the same problem also on his N1. I don't think it is Rogers' problem since iPhone and Maemo users are having no trouble for location service on Rogers. I don't see how it is a problem on Google's servers either if location service is working for users of other OS. However, I don't know if any other Android devices on Rogers are having the same issues though. Can other Rogers users, Big 3 users, Wind/Mobilicity users confirm if their N1's are having the same issues? On a side note, my N1 is stock.
As far as the ROM/Phone. I am using the official FRG83D without any root or modifications to the firmware/bootloader.
It would not pick me up using Edge/wifi/3G and the only thing that did work was GPS. The weird thing is, it appears to be some issue with a service on the phone. The reason why I believe this is because if I went on the mobile Google, the page didn't ask me for permission to access my location.
After I cleared the cache on "Google Framework" and rebooted, everything worked fine and the browser asked me for my permission.
As madballs mentioned, it doesn't seem to be a Rogers issue as I was able to pop the sim card in my XPERIA and it was able to locate me just fine.
After going insane and going without sleep for the past 30 hours, I have linked the issue with the update to Google Goggles. Got rid of the update, location now works fine.
My N1's tower based estimation works ok on Solo (Bell's network). The estimatation is not as good as my Nokia N85 when I put the same SIM card in...
So I got into work today and same thing happened. The location services does not recognize that I am now in Toronto and not Markham. However, I tried out what the OP suggested and cleared the cache in the Google Services Framework and restarted the N1. It then recognized I am now in Toronto. This is quite strange. What does Google Services Framework do? And why would it not update when I travel into another location? It only stopped working last week. I will see if it changes back to Markham tonight when I get off work tonight. If it doesn't work, I will try deleting the Google Goggles update.
Same issues here ...
I am stock FRG83G on Rogers in southern Ontario. Been having this issue for a while but never bothered to look into it. I tried some of the tricks in this thread and here are the results:
- went to 2G - no improvement
- removed updates from Google Goggles and rebooted - no improvement
- Cleared cache and force stopped the Google Services Framework and rebooted and location is working.
I will edit this note if anything changes.
Update: Looks like clearing the framework loses your history of free downloads from the Market ... the paid items are still there.
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I am stock FRG83G on Rogers in southern Ontario. Been having this issue for a while but never bothered to look into it. I tried some of the tricks in this thread and here are the results:
- went to 2G - no improvement
- removed updates from Google Goggles and rebooted - no improvement
- Cleared cache and force stopped the Google Services Framework and rebooted and location is working.
I will edit this note if anything changes.
Update: Looks like clearing the framework loses your history of free downloads from the Market ... the paid items are still there.
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Oops.. But try this, launch AppBrain, sync, then exit Appbrain and try the market again. I noticed by accident once after restoring all apps using Titanium Backup that before I went into Appbrain the Market didn't know about my installed apps and afterwords it did.
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Update: Looks like clearing the framework loses your history of free downloads from the Market ... the paid items are still there.
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If you restart again, the Market will work correctly again, but the location services will break.
Same issue here on stock FRG83D since November 15.
I've tried both Rogers and Fido SIM cards. I've also done a factory reset and rolled google maps back. Nothing seems to resolve the issue so I've resorted to enabling GPS when it's available.
The same thing started happening to a friend's Acer Liquid E running 2.2 earlier this week. After clearing the maps data on their phone the positioning worked as expected once again but latitude isn't providing the correct location.
Today my N1 refused to update its position. After clearing the maps data it started to work properly.
Both phones are on Rogers and being used from Hamilton to Toronto...
Quick update. As I mentioned on post #11, I had to clear the Google Services Framework cache this morning before the N1 recognized I have left Markham and arrived in Toronto. I am in Markham now, and the N1 automatically recognized I am back in Markham now. Honestly, I have no clue what the problem is. As I stated, I have reset to factory setting a couple times the past week. I would tend to believe by reseting to factory setting is equivalent to clearing the cache. However it did not work then. So I dont know how by clearing the Google Services cache would work today. May be it is just a coincident. I will post again tomorrow when I am back in Toronto and see if the N1 recognizes the location by itself. Oh right, another thing tried was putting my friend's SIM card (he has a iPhone 3GS) into my phone, but no luck. I didn't bother giving him my SIM card to try since another poster on here said his SIM card works on his XPERIA.
beermike: Location services wasn't working for me on November 16th. Right before Eric Schmidt made his Gingerbread comment actually. I wish this hinted that Gingerbread was coming but then it's only us Rogers/Fido users having the problem.
P.S. This is probably not a Rogers issue. But I have to say, Rogers sucks. Too bad I'm on a corporate plan with them.
EDIT: I found another thread that some AT&T folks had this same issue back in May http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=679636
Restarted phone yesterday night and location services is not working today again.
I believe the correct term all of you gentlemen are looking for is "A-GPS" or "Assisted GPS".
Per the issue, are these results being achieved with the GPS hardware setting turned OFF, and the mobile network/AGPS turned ON, or are both of these settings turned on and still unable to find an accurate position?
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I believe the correct term all of you gentlemen are looking for is "A-GPS" or "Assisted GPS".
Per the issue, are these results being achieved with the GPS hardware setting turned OFF, and the mobile network/AGPS turned ON, or are both of these settings turned on and still unable to find an accurate position?
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No, it's NOT assisted GPS as that includes the GPS, yes? As mentioned, it's more of this nature: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multilateration
A-GPS is when your cellular provider offers the phone ephemeris data which reduces the amount of time the phone has to calculate the satellite positions and improves accuracy and the ability to maintain a fix because the phone already knows where the satellites are without downloading such data directly from the sats themselves. And in this case of course you're using the GPS, not an estimated location based on your nearby cell towers.
Assuming tower location is correct (and KNOWN...), if you only have one visible tower you should basically show up as being at or near that tower. If there are multiple towers, some set of parameters allows some estimation or predetermined location based on the results. I've read multiple times in the past that when the GPS is in use on a cellphone and My Location (what Google calls the cell tower location stuff of course) is in use, it will upload anonymous data to improve their database. There are multiple such databases, although most of them would only place you at the known location of the tower and not take into account multiple 'visible' towers.
Here's an OpenCellID lookup: http://www.opencellid.org/cell/get?mcc=310&mnc=410&lac=15913&cellid=50762 If you look closely, directly east, across the shopping center there and just into what looks like a bit of an industrial work area there's a square patch with a shadowy place; that's the tower it's referring to.