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Can somoone post a thread (or use this thread) to list all the working OPAL cabs (volume control, dialer, start menu, task manager etc,.) for download. I know they are spread across differnet posts but would be nice if we have something all in one post and make it sticky for some time.
I am looking for the dialer (with the canvas).
Thanks,
Sundar N.
man! there are threads EXACTLY for this topic!
why not use search? why open a new thread for this?
sundar_amn said:
Can somoone post a thread (or use this thread) to list all the working OPAL cabs (volume control, dialer, start menu, task manager etc,.) for download. I know they are spread across differnet posts but would be nice if we have something all in one post and make it sticky for some time.
I am looking for the dialer (with the canvas).
Thanks,
Sundar N.
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I'm pretty sure that WORKING cab for Opal phonecanvas doesn't exist yet.
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I'm pretty sure that WORKING cab for Opal phonecanvas doesn't exist yet.
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nope it doesnt not yet anyways...though i think someones making an attempt..search for "Dialer Cab? " for more details
PS: - Someone should probably close / merge this thread with the relevent one
Cheers
I didnt realize that there are 'exactly' same thread for OPEL applications. Since OPEL applications are most wanted now a days, just thought this would be helpful. Thanks anyway.
Mods, please close this thread. Sorry for the inconveniance.
nir36 said:
man! there are threads EXACTLY for this topic!
why not use search? why open a new thread for this?
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Hmm funny you say that. I've search for 20 minutes for a certain Opal cab, and I keep coming back to this post :S... can someone post the link here, if I come across it, I will....
Try this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425694
Alot of good links in there, including the Opal pack
Topic question ^^^. I've tried using the search function and tried going through about almost every page for a thread thats related to the TF3D2. However I'm confused..Is there a cab version for TF3D2 floating around somewhere? Or as of right now there are only the rom versions? Thanks for your help guys!
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Topic question ^^^. I've tried using the search function and tried going through about almost every page for a thread thats related to the TF3D2. However I'm confused..Is there a cab version for TF3D2 floating around somewhere? Or as of right now there are only the rom versions? Thanks for your help guys!
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Cab takes a while to be compiled. Give it time
here. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=485959
but pretty instable/uninstallable for now, have to wait a bit
oh wow. thanks a lot guap, i actually missed this because i thought it was some landscape fix or something due to the name of the thread. I will wait then if its that unstable. Thanks!
Ok, so here is my dillema, as I am new to cooking, I have never yet had to update the EXT packages when a new base comes out, bobsbbq ticked and unticked what was needed and not needed when I made my first kitchen, using the Leo TMOUS 2.10 base packages. Not 2.11 is out and I need to work out what I need and dont need, so Im thinking that I should write down what is unticked now, and then use that as a guide for the 2.11 packages, good idea?
Also can anyone explain why certain things are and arent needed? I have the same problem when updating SYS to thanks. (Although some I can work out is because its Tmob stuff we dont need)
My general rule of thumb is this: if you don't know what it is, leave it in. Some things are obvious, like mp3 trimmer, manila or labyrinth. Leave them in or out, it's your choice. A lot of the non-obvious packages are just dll's that several different HTC apps may need to function. You can use a dependency scanner to see what apps need what, but that can be complicated. It's always a good idea to look in the package and see what's there, and look in the rgu's for clues.
http://www.mobileunderground.info/showthread.php?t=3841
Check the above thread.
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How are we supposed to know what to tick and untick in EXT packages
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Read, search, read some more, build rom, more searching, read, read, build rom, read again, then search and read. Repeat, and rinse.
Hope that helps.
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My general rule of thumb is this: if you don't know what it is, leave it in. Some things are obvious, like mp3 trimmer, manila or labyrinth. Leave them in or out, it's your choice. A lot of the non-obvious packages are just dll's that several different HTC apps may need to function. You can use a dependency scanner to see what apps need what, but that can be complicated. It's always a good idea to look in the package and see what's there, and look in the rgu's for clues.
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Thanks that a good idea, I will go through and do that tonight
ai6908 said:
http://www.mobileunderground.info/showthread.php?t=3841
Check the above thread.
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Great thread thanks man, very useful
indagroove said:
I'll give a simple and straightforward answer to the very broad question..
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Read, search, read some more, build rom, more searching, read, read, build rom, read again, then search and read. Repeat, and rinse.
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Thanks...
+1, yeah all packages in rom have a function.
The only way to find out is indeed logical thinking and your suggestion.
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I'll give a simple and straightforward answer to the very broad question..
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Read, search, read some more, build rom, more searching, read, read, build rom, read again, then search and read. Repeat, and rinse.
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I'll give a simple and straightforward answer to the very broad question..
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Read, search, read some more, build rom, more searching, read, read, build rom, read again, then search and read. Repeat, and rinse.
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+1...Comes usually through experience....
Originally Posted by ai6908
http://www.mobileunderground.info/showthread.php?t=3841
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Great link, Thanks. I have often thought that this would be a great resource thread here.
I have also had a problem with this and many times the only answer is trial and error. Though the more I cook the better I am getting at figuring this stuff out by dissecting the package a little.
I know that "Search and you will find it" is a common (and overused IMHO) answer abound here but I have found that searching for package names rarely leads me in the right direction.
cj
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Great link, Thanks. I have often thought that this would be a great resource thread here.
I have also had a problem with this and many times the only answer is trial and error. Though the more I cook the better I am getting at figuring this stuff out by dissecting the package a little.
I know that "Search and you will find it" is a common (and overused IMHO) answer abound here but I have found that searching for package names rarely leads me in the right direction.
cj
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IMO, searching is important, but equally important is reading about things when you aren't necessarily searching for specific answers. Doing this, you will often find useful information by chance which you aren't really even actively searching for. I think the real lesson is to constantly keep up with as much of the latest developments as possible, even if you may find them unnecessary in your particular situation. This gained knowledge will only lead to a more fully holistic understanding of the cooking process, which is really the point.
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IMO, searching is important, but equally important is reading about things when you aren't necessarily searching for specific answers. Doing this, you will often find useful information by chance which you aren't really even actively searching for. I think the real lesson is to constantly keep up with as much of the latest developments as possible, even if you may find them unnecessary in your particular situation. This gained knowledge will only lead to a more fully holistic understanding of the cooking process, which is really the point.
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i think this is very true i hear people complain all the time about how they cant search and find what they are looking for, but truth is that if you do enough reading you will find your answer and learn a whole lot more in the process
Package repository
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Also can anyone explain why certain things are and arent needed?
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I had (and still have) the same problem. So I started to figure out what which package does. There are still packages that I haven't figured out yet but those I have figured out I've uploaded to a public Mercurial repository. You can find it here:
Code:
ttp://bitbucket.org/da_cug/cleanroom/overview
(just prepend "h" - I can't post URLs here yet)
If you don't want to clone the repository (or if you don't know what Mercurial is) you can click on the "Source" tab and browse the repository. The description of each package can be found in the "readme.txt" files within each package folder.
The (my) idea of this repository is that there is a central place for all packages/devices/languages to which users can contribute to (rather than each cook doing this on his/her own).
Note that the repository is not yet complete. I only upload packages for which I know (or think I know) what they're doing. Any help with this is appreciated. Just write me a message.
Looks interesting da_cug, xplain how we can helps you with this thing... its a magnific Info source.
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IMO, searching is important, but equally important is reading about things when you aren't necessarily searching for specific answers. Doing this, you will often find useful information by chance which you aren't really even actively searching for. I think the real lesson is to constantly keep up with as much of the latest developments as possible, even if you may find them unnecessary in your particular situation. This gained knowledge will only lead to a more fully holistic understanding of the cooking process, which is really the point.
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Good Point.
Hi everyone,
I realize that this is probably a NOOB question, but I've seen various ROMs around that say they are the COM2 or COM5 version, etc. Can someone tell me what this means exactly?
Thanks
me too, im confused, same here my friend.
A quick search on Google will get you the answer which is a topic available right here on XDA-Dev:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=588502
It explains the difference between the COM trees.
Hope you find it useful.
I want to cook a ROM without Manila, but with Huashan Phone Canvas.
I know that is possible to cook a ROM with EzInput but without Manila, if you also cook in the dependency packages for EzInput.
So, my question is - which packages are dependencies for Huashan Phone Canvas?
Start reading from this thread it's "Resource (.DLL, .EXE, etc.)", especially
Dependency Walker
PEinfo
Have fun,
Thank you for your answer. I knew about that, i thought that I could save some time if someone already knows which packages I need for working Phone Canvas.
It doesn't matter if Huashan or oder Phone Canvas.
Try looking for the dependencies in the .dsm. And don't expect others to figure everything out for you, lol.
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Try looking for the dependencies in the .dsm. And don't expect others to figure everything out for you, lol.
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Be careful with your words - I am looking and searching myself. But why should I look if someone already knows it? That is why we have the XDA Community - to share the knowledge.
You can "lol" on yourself.
Check here dude http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=49043742 these are all FarmerTed posts and ,as you can see, he does help a lot of people here.......i really dont think he needs to be careful by anything.......Now..this is only a laziness busisness, XDA community is great but it is not here for make the work for you......FarmerTed was kind to help you in the best way , for the rest take your precious 5 minutse of time to open a little file dsm ......this is only learning and it is far better then having the soup ready.
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Be careful with your words - I am looking and searching myself. But why should I look if someone already knows it? That is why we have the XDA Community - to share the knowledge.
You can "lol" on yourself.
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Check here dude http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=49043742 these are all FarmerTed posts and ,as you can see, he does help a lot of people here.......i really dont think he needs to be careful by anything.......Now..this is only a laziness busisness, XDA community is great but it is not here for make the work for you......FarmerTed was kind to help you in the best way , for the rest take your precious 5 minutse of time to open a little file dsm ......this is only learning and it is far better then having the soup ready.
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Hey "dude", no one is making work for me. And you should also be careful what you are saying. You are MOD but id doesn't give you right or freedom to tell what you want and how you want. You don't know me - so you shouldn't judge me.
This is Chef Central, and its meant to ask questions and give answers.
If you can help - nice, I am grateful for your help. If you can't, don't call it "laziness business" or tell me that I am "expecting others to figure everything out for me".
I am seeing how much FarmerTed is helping the Community. I also appreciate his help on my issue. What I don't like is when someone try to make himself important upon the others with their "lol" comments.
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Hey "dude", no one is making work for me. And you should also be careful what you are saying. You are MOD but id doesn't give you right or freedom to tell what you want and how you want. You don't know me - so you shouldn't judge me.
This is Chef Central, and its meant to ask questions and give answers.
If you can help - nice, I am grateful for your help. If you can't, don't call it "laziness business" or tell me that I am "expecting others to figure everything out for me".
I am seeing how much FarmerTed is helping the Community. I also appreciate his help on my issue. What I don't like is when someone try to make himself important upon the others with their "lol" comments.
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Look, sorry for the 'lol' comment. Lol. Anyway, I don't know what the mission statement is for this place (or anywhere else), but my feeling is that it's a good place to ask for help and get help-but 'help' doesn't strictly mean getting the answers to your questions. The first poster gave you help; I gave you a little help (suggesting that you look in the dsm for dependencies-that's what dsm's are for, but it may not answer your question). Anyway, you're much better off in the end learning how to answer your own questions then just having someone come along and answer them directly for you. Sharing techniques is more important than just sharing answers, imo.
Anyway, I suspect that there are threads out there that list the necessary dependencies for new HTC builds. Have you looked for any of them? That would be another approach. I honestly don't know the answer, as I use the stock MS phone canvas.
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Look, sorry for the 'lol' comment. Lol. Anyway, I don't know what the mission statement is for this place (or anywhere else), but my feeling is that it's a good place to ask for help and get help-but 'help' doesn't strictly mean getting the answers to your questions. The first poster gave you help; I gave you a little help (suggesting that you look in the dsm for dependencies-that's what dsm's are for, but it may not answer your question). Anyway, you're much better off in the end learning how to answer your own questions then just having someone come along and answer them directly for you. Sharing techniques is more important than just sharing answers, imo.
Anyway, I suspect that there are threads out there that list the necessary dependencies for new HTC builds. Have you looked for any of them? That would be another approach. I honestly don't know the answer, as I use the stock MS phone canvas.
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Thank you, Farmer Ted. I have looked, but i didn't found any specific Threads about Phone Canvas dependencies. But i followed the suggestion to take a look into the DSM file. I hope that i will find the solution.
I know that you also use the OSBuilder for cooking, strange thing is when i look into the DSM file in OSBuilder for dependencies, it shows me only the files that are in the Phone Canvas package.
I also think that is much better to give the hint for the right direction how to get the answer or solution by yourself, and not answering directly the question.
From asking this question I've learned that you can find allot from DSM files.
Thank you all for your help.
@ brainmaster:
look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5960216&postcount=3 there are some tools that allow you to check the dependencies that you need.
I feel sorry for my previous post but as FT said ,is better to learn the practice instead to have the direct solution,maybe i didnt explain my self better and i didnt use good words for that.
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@ brainmaster:
look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5960216&postcount=3 there are some tools that allow you to check the dependencies that you need.
I feel sorry for my previous post but as FT said ,is better to learn the practice instead to have the direct solution,maybe i didnt explain my self better and i didnt use good words for that.
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Thank you af974. I have no hard feelings. Still, it's nice of you to say that you are sorry.
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@ brainmaster:
look here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=5960216&postcount=3 there are some tools that allow you to check the dependencies that you need.
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Alright, I used DSM Editor to find the dependencies of Phone Canvas Enhancement 2G v4.2.62520173131.0
But I could not find the given DSM file (the one specified as a dependency).
I've read through all the stickies about phone canvases, and searched to my wits end lol can't find a way to make any dialer work (not even the one from the ROM dump I used)!
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Smith
Dependencies for the other files/modules, do not extend beyond the package.
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Dependencies for the other files/modules, do not extend beyond the package.
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Thank you Alexx~.
Can you please tell me what is that program that you are using to detect dependencies?
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Can you please tell me what is that program that you are using to detect dependencies?
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It will be available in the following (full, not LE) version OSBuilder
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It will be available in the following (full, not LE) version OSBuilder
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Do you know of any other way to detect dependencies?
So, what you said earlier, there aren't any dependencies for phone canvas enhancement?
Does anyone have a working WVGA phone canvas ext package they could share? I can't get one to work for the life of me :/
Update: so far, from scouring the forums, here is what I can find for phone canvas dependencies:
-Contact Utility Engine
-Message Enhancement, must match Phone Canvas Enhancement version
Update 2:
-Doesn't seem to work unless paired with it's same version HTC Scroll package
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Do you know of any other way to detect dependencies?
So, what you said earlier, there aren't any dependencies for phone canvas enhancement?
Does anyone have a working WVGA phone canvas ext package they could share? I can't get one to work for the life of me :/
Update: so far, from scouring the forums, here is what I can find for phone canvas dependencies:
-Contact Utility Engine
-Message Enhancement, must match Phone Canvas Enhancement version
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Also try to include:
- HTCScroll
- Facebook_Engine (for non huashan phone canvas)
williyung said:
Also try to include:
- HTCScroll
- Facebook_Engine (for non huashan phone canvas)
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Ha I just edited my post then I read that you posted this too
HTC Scroll definitely had a piece in this ha. I have a feeling that, of course, Microphone (the corresponding version) and one other package (whose name escapes me) will also affect phone canvas. We'll find out!
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Smith
Ok, so here's an unofficial list of Phone Canvas Enhancement dependencies, for those of you who would like one:
-Contact Utility Engine
-Message Enhancement, must match Phone Canvas Enhancement version
-HTC Scroll
-PTT (Not always required, but it certainly was with the ATT dialer from the Rhodium 2.10 ship rom)
-Facebook Engine
-HTC Framework (thanks brainmaster)
Those are the packages which I've found it won't run without via process of elimination.
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Smith
And don't forget the HTC Framework package.