hi everyone
I am wanting to know is the size limitations of mms a function of phone, the os, or sprint?
I currently have not had any problems sending pics (this is prob because handcent will resize them for me before I send) but I have yet to be able to send a video via txt yet. One the few occasions I have tried I get an error saying something about the max size reached. In the default message program I have max size set to it's default which is 1mb which happens to b the max it can be set at. In handcent the max size is set to 1.2mb which is it's max value.
Any ideas as to what the limitation is?
Unfortunately, it is a Sprint network limitation. No fix, no workaround.
troyboytn said:
Unfortunately, it is a Sprint network limitation. No fix, no workaround.
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that is a major bummer :-(
this is what i was suspecting but thought maybe it was os limited like the rate limiting of sms by android.
thanks for the info.
does anyone know if the evo or sprint 4g network has this same limitation?
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dsMA said:
that is a major. bummer :-(
this is what i was suspecting but thought maybe it was os limited like the rate limiting of sms by android.
thanks for the info.
does anyone know if the evo or sprint 4g network has this same limitation?
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I do remember looking at that and in the /data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/settings.db there was a setting
under "gservices" called mms_maximum_size or something like that.
You could try a sqlite edit amd change the value to "0", if there was a limitation caused by that database the edit would remove it.
try it and see if it helps :-/
Edit: You can see the line I was talking about (line 5) in the attached picture.
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@kyouko what did you use ti get that reading?
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I do remember looking at that and in the /data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/settings.db there was a setting
under "gservices" called mms_maximum_size or something like that.
You could try a sqlite edit amd change the value to "0", if there was a limitation caused by that database the edit would remove it.
try it and see if it helps :-/
Edit: You can see the line I was talking about (line 5) in the attached picture.
Sent from my Hero CDMA using the XDA mobile application powered by Tapatalk
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I think you could edit that all you want but still be effect by the character limit. 160 is the limit by SMS itself.
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@kyouko what did you use ti get that reading?
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I used root explorer
Tipharet said:
I think you could edit that all you want but still be effect by the character limit. 160 is the limit by SMS itself.
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You would be correct about that, but the OP is talking about mms size as in picture/video/audio texts not character limits
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I used root explorer
You would be correct about that, but the OP is talking about mms size as in picture/video/audio texts not character limits
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thanks
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I don't know necessarily that it is a "Sprint" limit either. Possibly a CDMA MMS limit. But it's just like email's there are size limitations there as well - just depends how big yours is. I can send 20MB internally at 15 externally, but chances are my customer is capped at 10mb.
The intertubes are a weird place.
Just going my what was stated on Sprints forums some time back. Sprint employee SarahKS stated that Sprints mms were sent and processed though a third party partner whos servers were capped at 1mb per message. Even if code could be tweaked in the Heros rom to send more mb per mms, that mms would never reach its recipient because of the external limitation.
Just going my what was stated on Sprints forums some time back. Sprint employee SarahKS stated that Sprints mms were sent and processed though a third party partner whos servers were capped at 1mb per message. Even if code could (and most likely can) be tweaked in the Heros rom to send more mb per mms, that mms would never reach its recipient because of the external limitation.
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Hi,
I've been trying to send pictures but the phone shrinks and compresses them to the point of stupidity. Is there a setting I haven't discovered yet that will change this.
Cheers!
xan_asmodi said:
Hi,
I've been trying to send pictures but the phone shrinks and compresses them to the point of stupidity. Is there a setting I haven't discovered yet that will change this.
Cheers!
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I second this...My old Blackberry 8100 didnt have to compress the pics and they were 1024x960
This Problem is Solved on other HTC Phones..
Hello This Problem is Solved on the HTC Windows Mobile Phones...
Can this be somehow moved into the Android to fix the problem..
Please Look at the link. It has the cab files and info required to fix the problem..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469914
Does any one have any thoughts on this? The MMS is pretty much useless we can sort this. Is there a .conf file that I can edit?
What's the use of sending full size images with a res of 2048x1536 to a phone where the display at the very best is 480x320?
/Zilver
ZilverZurfarn said:
What's the use of sending full size images with a res of 2048x1536 to a phone where the display at the very best is 480x320?
/Zilver
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Cropping and saving to a computer?
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Cropping and saving to a computer?
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So put ur memory card into ur computer, or mount it and take it off
There is obviously a reason to anything, and as someone said, it should be optional to send "as is" or sized down. But transfering big (image) files was never the design goal behind MMS. To declare MMS as "pretty much useless" if you're not allowed to send huge images (some carriers even limit MMS size to 32 kB!) is overreacting IMO. To me, it makes sense to scale down the image to std phone display size. If I want to transfer things untouched, there's always email...
/Zilver
Long story short... it seems that when people on here don't have an answer to the question, they like to dump in their .02.
He wasn't asking for what you like (opinions).... He was asking if it is configurable.
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So put ur memory card into ur computer, or mount it and take it off
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Thank you Captain Obvious.... If I wanted to send a full size image to my friend whom then wanted to crop it to his or her liking, this does nothing.
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it seems that when people on here don't have an answer to the question, they like to dump in their .02.
He wasn't asking for what you like (opinions).... He was asking if it is configurable.
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...just like I didn't ask for your opinion. - But forgive me for adding mine - I tend to do that, when I see people getting frustrated with things just because of wrong assumptions. Like getting mad because the screw breaks when you try to get it into the hole with a hammer (or in this case why MMS isn't a good idea for file transfer).
/Mats
nI diissue! I wan't o dnsend MMSs to my G/F who will crop them on her handset. She doesn't have a data plan so POP3/IMAP email isn't gonna cut
As for MMS not being designed for large amounts of data; neither were email or SMS but they evolved to meet the needs of users. Some providers send adverts via MMS so a 100I200KB jpg shouldn't be a problem.
Should it?t. 't mean for this to be a contetious
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Long story short... it seems that when people on here don't have an answer to the question, they like to dump in their .02.
He wasn't asking for what you like (opinions).... He was asking if it is configurable.
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Welcome to the Internet, we've been waiting for your arrival....
If you are sending something to someone who will use the data on a PC, send it to their e-mail, which they can access on thier PC....
-bZj
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She doesn't have a data plan so POP3/IMAP email isn't gonna cut
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where I live, downloading an image to the phone costs the same no matter if it's part of an MMS or an email attachment. It's the same # of bytes to dl, and without a data plan every byte comes at a price.
/Mats
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where I live, downloading an image to the phone costs the same no matter if it's part of an MMS or an email attachment. It's the same # of bytes to dl, and without a data plan every byte comes at a price.
/Mats
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Not to get involved in this lovely debate but the OP:
1) Wants to send a picture to his GF's phone.
2) Once on the phone she can then crop to suit.
3) Since she does not have a data plan MMS is about the only easy way to send the photo directly to the phone.
4) Depending on the phone she may or may not be able to get the picture from her computer but for the sake of argument let's assume not.
So we have a reasonable request and reasoning for why the OP wants to send an uncompressed image. Mail does not cut it and given premise 2 a compressed image is not acceptable.
So can we stop trying to find a work around for the moment and simply try and address the OP's problem? I am as guilty as anyone of justifying a limitation on my beloved G1 but in this case it is not going to help. Maybe one of the third party MMS programs? The furst question in my mind is whether it is the phone compressing the image or the carrier? Any way to know for sure?
T-Mobile (USA) imposes a 300k limit on MMS messages (as seen in many other forums here using WM). It's certainly possible that Google forced the messaging app to conform to that limit....or even to a smaller limit so that other carriers with lower thresholds could still use the same Android build for MMS.
I always send MMS to my wife who is overseas, and I prefer MMS since its instant and my wife doesn't check her email frequently. I know I can email her the images then sms her to notify her about the email but thats just not practical.
so please if you don't have an answer, you don't have to say "I don't know" which might hurt your reputation as an expert on everything except useful solutions.
Just skip the thread.
I'm interested as to whether there are any .conf file etcetera to edit.
It seems to be the phone requiring the compression of the image, which doesn't make much sense, as none of my WM devices have forced this requirement upon me.
Anyone care to join me in a game of 'Hunt the config file'
The images I send are literally the size of my thumbnail btw.
Thanks in advance!
Dave
Why not just email the full sized picture to her phone's email address. Most providers have an email address for each phone number on their system. T-mob is [email protected]. Search google for the address. There, a nice simple solution. Was I really the only one that thought of this?
Well the G1 MMS is capped at about 298kb or 300kb and pictures taken on the G1 in max resolution are easily over that but no worry looks like we'll get a 3MB cap with 1.5 or just send to email
I've recently noticed that not many people have been getting my MMSes, and today I did some tests to figure out what was happening.
It seems like pictures sent from the Nexus One using the stock messaging app has the size cap at around 1MB. From some research, T-Mobile USA seems to cap their MMSes at 300KB. Pictures taken with the Nexus One's camera using the highest settings varies from 700KB to a little over 1MB.
When I send a 700KB picture to someone, the messaging app doesn't do any resizing or compression; it'll just send it as it is and the recipient will never get it. When I try sending the larger ones that are more than 1MB, the app will resize and/or compress to about 800KB, and as expected, the recipient won't get that either. I've even tried sending these larger MMS to my email to rule out any device/service incompatibilities on the other end, but those don't go through either.
Sending something tiny, like a 7KB or 100KB picture works just fine, which sort of verifies that there's a cap.
Well, my question is, is there a way to adjust the cap in the messaging app? I don't see any options anywhere, so I kind of doubt it. I don't really want to use a 3rd party app; I think you can set the max size in ChompSMS.
Some providers resize pictures as they're travelling across the network, simply because a lot of phones have small displays/memory and can't handle something that big. You have to tell them you're using a phone that can handle it (eg. N95 or iphone) so they stop doing it.
If Tmobile are dropping the pictures entirely then that's something for them to sort out... I'm surprised they would do that.
I just finished speaking to HTC and T-Mobile. T-Mobile confirmed that MMSes are capped at 300KB, and HTC told there's no way to change the maximum in the messaging app. All they could tell me was to take pictures at a lower resolution, which wasn't the answer I was looking for... Hopefully, when the source comes out, there will be a way to add the option in there.
I'm kind of surprised no one else has run into this issue before.
:/ well, that blows. i was a little whizzed at sprint for capping at 500kb.
your option could be get on wifi, send through email to their phone (e.g. [email protected])
common addresses
I'm using handcent sms on tmobile and handcent always resizes my images when i attach them to a message. i tried the normal messaging app and when i try to attach a picture it says "compressing image". For me handcent sms is great and definitely better than the stock app.
I took your guys' thoughts into consideration, but still ran into problems.
Sending a text using email to a T-Mobile number (##########@tmomail.net) with an attachment larger than 300KB will result in the the picture never reaching the recipient. I can't say that this won't work for any of the other carriers though.
Handcent Sms does indeed resize the picture enough to send, but it converted my 800KB picture down to 14KB. It's a little too aggressive with the conversion for my taste.
I'm just hoping that it will be a relatively easy to implement a way of changing the 1MB max size on the messaging app when the source comes out.
If anyone else has any suggestions, I'd love to hear it.
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I took your guys' thoughts into consideration, but still ran into problems.
Sending a text using email to a T-Mobile number (##########@tmomail.net) with an attachment larger than 300KB will result in the the picture never reaching the recipient. I can't say that this won't work for any of the other carriers though.
Handcent Sms does indeed resize the picture enough to send, but it converted my 800KB picture down to 14KB. It's a little too aggressive with the conversion for my taste.
I'm just hoping that it will be a relatively easy to implement a way of changing the 1MB max size on the messaging app when the source comes out.
If anyone else has any suggestions, I'd love to hear it.
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Did the 14Kb figure come from the MMS when it was received or did you check it on the phone after it was sent? I'm on O2 in the UK and they seriously butcher any MMS being sent to the Android, if I send a picture to myself its immediately obvious looking in the conversation view that what I've sent and what I've received are not the same.
I too have been having this problem. I would like to stick with the stock messaging app as well. I am sure there will be an update for this I just hope it's soon.
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Did the 14Kb figure come from the MMS when it was received or did you check it on the phone after it was sent? I'm on O2 in the UK and they seriously butcher any MMS being sent to the Android, if I send a picture to myself its immediately obvious looking in the conversation view that what I've sent and what I've received are not the same.
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I checked on both ends. This was with Handcent though, remember. When you send, it's added to the thread where you can check the file sized of the picture. I sent it to myself to my email via MMS, and it was 14Kb on that end too.
On the other hand, if I send something < 300Kb, the picture stays intact on the receiving end. I don't think T-Mobile does any processing of the MMSes in any way.
I too, have been having problems with MMS, just as you stated.
FWIW, my observations:
-Android on VZW can receive my MMS, but I get a 1kb file with nothing in it when he sends me an MMS.
-When iPhone on ATT sends me an MMS, it comes through, but when I send him an MMS, he never gets it. Strangely, when my other friend with a G1 sends him an MMS, it doesn't come through.
-Within Tmo, MMS is fine.
I don't know anyone dumb enough to use Sprint, so I can't check on that.
-I sent a photo from my Gmail app to myself, and it came out perfectly fine. 731k on both sides.
Would be nice to have an app that automatically resizes photos to the 300kb Tmo limit.
Hmm... That's weird, I can't send anything larger than 300Kb to myself or my brother who has a G1. I thought I had this figured out, but now I don't know what's going on anymore
I just checked on my phone, sending via tmo to att...one went through, but two others didnt. i may have to switch to handcent or chompsms.
Android 2.1 currently has an issue with image compression for MMS. The default sms/mms client in Android does compress images, but it doesnt compress enough. It compresses all images so that it has a maximum image size of 2592x1944. However, for many carriers, the file size limit is around 300kb which will make you unable to send the MMS.
Luckily, there is a quick and easy way to manually edit the max sending size value..
I posted a quick guide here
Cyanogen is solving this issue in the next version of his Android ROM, but for everyone who wants a fix now or dont use Cyanogen, this guide should solve your issues
This would require root, right?
Yes it will I think, as you need root in order to push the mms.apk back in as far as i know
I wonder if T-Mobile USA has that limitation.
Does anybody know, if some carriers have a recieving MMS size limitation ?
I dont think Ive heard of a MMS receiving size limit anywhere, so dont think there is one..
How is this done in a Sense Rom? My Evo port for the HD2 doesn't have a "mms_config.xml" file..
Thanks
my n1 camera is set to take photos in 1600x1200 only (2mp?). I find that any higher is pointless because you are limitedby the low quality sensor/optics... so you are just wasting resources by using 5mp. also, a higher mp setting usually adds more noise.
Dont handcent and chomp resize automatically ?
Also let you choose max size.
You can set the max size limit on Handcent.
Settings > Send message settings > Maximum MMS size
I have noticed that people on AT&T can only receive mms at 500k or less (I'm sending pics from Tmobile).
WOW!
Thanks....Been wondering about this.
Every single U.S. carrier does transcoding on the MMSC level. Sending a larger quality file is not going to impact the picture that you receive on the other handset after the MMSC transcodes it past a certain point.
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Thanks....Been wondering about this.
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Glad you found it useful!
And to the one who asked how to do it in Sense, I have no idea, as HTC's messaging app differs from the stock one.
krazichinaman said:
You can set the max size limit on Handcent.
Settings > Send message settings > Maximum MMS size
I have noticed that people on AT&T can only receive mms at 500k or less (I'm sending pics from Tmobile).
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T-Mobile i think went up to 1MB max size but AT&T uses 600KB. Most other carriers are only 300KB (maybe 350KB) still however however.
I generally lower the resolution of my photos too for exactly that reason. No point in sending "5mp" images for people to view on a ".3 - .8mp" screen. I figured 2-3mp is good enough to save to email later on or view on the PC as well as send via MMS.
Everytime I push the mms.apk back to my phone my messaging apps just fc's and won't oppen. Any suggestions?
Since installing whatsapp, stopped using sms and mms, other than replying incomings, no worries on mms size limitations anymore...
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Anyone know the solution since OP's link goes to a toolbar installer now?
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Anyone know the solution since OP's link goes to a toolbar installer now?
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Attention Moderator,
this thread is no longet relevant, and the op link go's to a malware factory...
Request link removal and thread closed
Can anyone help me change the size limit for sending files via MMS? I would like to be able to send mp3's but I keep getting error message that the sending limit is exceeded even though I keep shrinking the size...
ppag69 said:
Can anyone help me change the size limit for sending files via MMS? I would like to be able to send mp3's but I keep getting error message that the sending limit is exceeded even though I keep shrinking the size...
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The max size for TMO is 1024k, there are some threads on it, If not here over in the main Leo forum, I don't have the links, you could find them as fast as I could ...
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The max size for TMO is 1024k, there are some threads on it, If not here over in the main Leo forum, I don't have the links, you could find them as fast as I could ...
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On the messaging tab click all messages.....menu....settings.....menu....server settings.......scroll down and change the limit
zelendel said:
On the messaging tab click all messages.....menu....settings.....menu....server settings.......scroll down and change the limit
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Do realize that TMobile itself though imposes a limit through their network. The best bet would be emailing them, even if you have to use wifi to do it.
Phantoms said:
Do realize that TMobile itself though imposes a limit through their network. The best bet would be emailing them, even if you have to use wifi to do it.
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Yes I do relize it as ATT has one to. But T-mobiles is bigger and the last option is the T-mobile max as to where ATT is maxed at 600k
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Do realize that TMobile itself though imposes a limit through their network. The best bet would be emailing them, even if you have to use wifi to do it.
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You must be boo boo the fool, zelendel was giving him directions on how to increase the mms sending limit, that is if his sending limit was set to something other than 1024k...
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You must be boo boo the fool, zelendel was giving him directions on how to increase the mms sending limit, that is if his sending limit was set to something other than 1024k...
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And you realize that he was wanting to send MP3s over MMS and most MP3s exceed the TMobile limit, don't you? Thus I pointed out that increasing the size in the phone settings may still not get the OP what he wants, which is to send MP3s over MMS.
Thanks...
Thanks for all the replies, for some reason I couldn't change my sending limit to 1024k cause it was greyed out. But I soft resetted and now it's fine. I was hoping there was a way to go past the 1024k limit. But I guess not...
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Thanks for all the replies, for some reason I couldn't change my sending limit to 1024k cause it was greyed out. But I soft resetted and now it's fine. I was hoping there was a way to go past the 1024k limit. But I guess not...
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use regeditor, then HKLM--> Software---> Jataayu---> MMS----> Profile---> 000---> there's suppose to be a "LOCK" settings, turn it to "0" then you'll be able to change the setting to 1024k. and it won't be greyed out anymore.
or you can just install this cab and not have do the regediting
Hey guys, I know this probably isn't related to Essential specifically, but when I receive messages over 150 characters it comes in all broken up and out of order. Is there an app or something I need to do to fix this? Are people receiving my messages like this too?
JoRocker said:
Hey guys, I know this probably isn't related to Essential specifically, but when I receive messages over 150 characters it comes in all broken up and out of order. Is there an app or something I need to do to fix this? Are people receiving my messages like this too?
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Tell them to not send messages of more than 140 characters?Text messages are limited in length.
If you violate the limit the app has no way of delivering the message without breaking it up.
In principal, it should not be out of order when you receive it.
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Tell them to not send messages of more than 140 characters?Text messages are limited in length.
If you violate the limit the app has no way of delivering the message without breaking it up.
In principal, it should not be out of order when you receive it.
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Thanks for the unhelpful and sarcastic reply. You should have just said nothing at all... My iPhone sure didn't have this issue, and I have a hard time believing that this is an unsolvable Android issue.
JoRocker said:
Thanks for the unhelpful and sarcastic reply. You should have just said nothing at all... My iPhone sure didn't have this issue, and I have a hard time believing that this is an unsolvable Android issue.
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Actually you read the first sentence and didn't read further:
"If you violate the limit the app has no way of delivering the message without breaking it up.
In principal, it should not be out of order when you receive it."
You also never said anything about iPhone functionality.
iPhone/Apple's messaging app uses iMessage as a form of delivery/reception.
This means that MMS is always the way a message is sent. When sending to other iPhone users MMS s the default method.
Android phones use the standard SMS built into the cell network that has a 160 character limit.
Unless the sender specifically can configure their app to convert messages longer than 160 charters to MMS, then the message will be broken because there is a protocol limitation.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS
Depending on your messaging app, and possibly who is sending it determines this as well. SMS over the character length can be sent as MMS and not be broken up. I've seen it in some app settings before as a choice between the two methods as well. Not familiar at the moment. Doesn't bother me so it's not something I look for but it could be a starting point for you to look as well.
Edit - should have read the previous post all the way though. Just reiterated. Sorry.