I have a HTC Magic 32B and i've noticed that 80% of ROMS on xda are for the 32A variant. i just wanted to know what was the major factor making this model so unpopular with developers!? thanks
Go to the G1 section. Search more, qq less.
So your saying the 32B will flash G1 ROMs? that is great news. thanks!
They're just jealous that you have an entire bra size larger than them
JoeHawkins609 said:
So your saying the 32B will flash G1 ROMs? that is great news. thanks!
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Just make sure you flash something that says it's compatible with magic/mytouch, because magics use different h/w to the dream, so if you don't WiFi wont work, can't remember what else (bluetooth?).
JoeHawkins609 said:
I have a HTC Magic 32B and i've noticed that 80% of ROMS on xda are for the 32A variant. i just wanted to know what was the major factor making this model so unpopular with developers!? thanks
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among other things they have less RAM than the 32A.
If memory serves... 32A(288Mb) vs 32B(192Mb)
Mod. edit: not dev related, moved to general
freyder said:
among other things they have less RAM than the 32A.
If memory serves... 32A(288Mb) vs 32B(192Mb)
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Yup, a third extra, but that makes them more expensive if you're buying from someone other than a carrier and 32s aren't available from carriers in all parts of the world.
freyder said:
among other things they have less RAM than the 32A.
If memory serves... 32A(288Mb) vs 32B(192Mb)
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well I have black Magic, sith SenseUI (not by Google, but by HTC, and not rooted) and it's 32A! According to all sys info apps you can find on the Market it has 192MB of user memory!
freyder said:
among other things they have less RAM than the 32A.
If memory serves... 32A(288Mb) vs 32B(192Mb)
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THATS WEIRD BECAUSE I HAVE A MT3G 32B WITH 288Mb of ram...
Knedjo said:
well I have black Magic, sith SenseUI (not by Google, but by HTC, and not rooted) and it's 32A! According to all sys info apps you can find on the Market it has 192MB of user memory!
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It probably refers to storage on the /data partition on the NAND (space available for installing apps), not RAM.
EDIT: I believe RAM is seperated in to two, x amount for the system to utilize and y amount for the Dalvik VM
No Magics that officially support Sense have less than 288MB RAM. The only device with less than 288mb and Sense UI is the HTC Tattoo (256mb).
nykei said:
THATS WEIRD BECAUSE I HAVE A MT3G 32B WITH 288Mb of ram...
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No, you don't.
AdrianK said:
It probably refers to storage on the /data partition on the NAND (space available for installing apps), not RAM.
No Magics that officially support Sense have less than 288MB RAM. The only device with less than 288mb and Sense UI is the HTC Tattoo (256mb).
No, you don't.
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wel if you're right, how can I check amount of RAM?
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wel if you're right, how can I check amount of RAM?
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By booting the SPL and seeing if you've got 32B or 32A?
AdrianK said:
By booting the SPL and seeing if you've got 32B or 32A?
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well as I've wrote previously - my Magic is 32A, and I know that by booting in SPL ;-)
But I've asked you for a way to confirm memory size!
Here's what System Monitor app tells:
so, any more ideas how to cinfirm that 32A has 288MB??
Knedjo said:
well as I've wrote previously - my Magic is 32A, and I know that by booting in SPL ;-)
But I've asked you for a way to confirm memory size!
Here's what System Monitor app tells:
so, any more ideas how to cinfirm that 32A has 288MB??
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"EDIT: I believe RAM is seperated in to two, x amount for the system to utilize and y amount for the Dalvik VM"
That app is showing either the RAM designated to the system (/kernel...?) or Dalvik VM, either way it doesn't matter, if it's 32A it has 288mb - end of.
nykei said:
THATS WEIRD BECAUSE I HAVE A MT3G 32B WITH 288Mb of ram...
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I'm pretty sure he means system RAM, not storage memory for applications. The 32B (Mytouch 3G) has the gimped 192MB of system RAM, while the 32A (HTC Magic, Mytouch 1.2) has 288MB.
Knedjo said:
well as I've wrote previously - my Magic is 32A, and I know that by booting in SPL ;-)
But I've asked you for a way to confirm memory size!
Here's what System Monitor app tells:
so, any more ideas how to cinfirm that 32A has 288MB??
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The rest of the RAM will never show up in any app as it's system reserved. If you had a 32B you'd see a value of approx. 100mb of RAM there, not 200mb like you do.
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Hey,
Can someone tell me how to check how much RAM is available on the HTC Magic please?
Have you tried searching the Market? There's quite a few apps that will do this.
Clinton
ClintonH said:
Have you tried searching the Market? There's quite a few apps that will do this.
Clinton
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Which apps?
27 said:
Which apps?
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Serious? Check the Market.
Clinton
Try a terminal emulator.
Type: cat /proc/meminfo
dekeijzer said:
Try a terminal emulator.
Type: cat /proc/meminfo
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Or type "free"
dekeijzer said:
Try a terminal emulator.
Type: cat /proc/meminfo
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MemTotal: 98920kB
Does that mean that my phone has 96MB RAM?
27 said:
MemTotal: 98920kB
Does that mean that my phone has 96MB RAM?
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No your phone has 192MB of RAM and 96MB of RAM is available after boot.
bachviet said:
No your phone has 192MB of RAM and 96MB of RAM is available after boot.
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Thank you.
Can anyone tell me the best ROM to put on this 192MB version for maximum performance?
nk02's Ion ROM or SPF's European ROM (see my signature)
bachviet said:
nk02's Ion ROM or SPF's European ROM (see my signature)
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Thank you.
I've gone for the European one. For now.
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Can anyone tell me the best ROM to put on this 192MB version for maximum performance?
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I would say either nk02's or Smartphone France (also goes by European ROM).
Dont even try Hero 1.4, im running a 288mb Magic, and I am having slowdowns.
aniteshj said:
Dont even try Hero 1.4, im running a 288mb Magic, and I am having slowdowns.
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You are? Really ?
I've seen several video of the Hero now that's it has gone in several reviewers hands and none is reporting any slowdowns.
The hardware of the HERO is much like the one you have (except for the camera and the 3.5mm jack).
From the videos is running very nicely with no slowdowns at all..
Weird...either we've got a buggy version (may be a release candidate) that has leaked earlier.. or.. don't know..
I thought it was running fine on Magics with 288Mb of RAM...
anidel
Im running Hero 1.4, i have no slowdowns at all, so maybe you did something wrong when installing?
ive heard the hero and magic are almost identicle in hardware specs wise.only thing hero has on it is a 3.5mm jack and a dedicated camera button.look on youtube for htc magic running hero rom and youll see that the htc magic should have NO problems running the rom.you just have to find the best rom that doesnt slow down the magic.
aniteshj said:
Dont even try Hero 1.4, im running a 288mb Magic, and I am having slowdowns.
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Where do you buy the 288MB version from?
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Where do you buy the 288MB version from?
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any info?...
I'm using 1.2 and it's smooth. I had to remove the weather widget, and set facebook contacts to update manually. Most of the lag is caused when apps are updating (stocks, weather, FB, etc..)
Rogers 32A here btw
Anyone tempted? I'm thinking of getting one. From what I've read, better screen, better memory, better camera, standard headphone plug etc.
I am...just because of the amoled screen.
Better do some more reading on it. It comes with 128MB RAM (less than half of the Hero or Magic) and the same size screen (3.2" 320X480) as the Magic or Dream, just has AM-OLED.
Here are the specs.
Clinton
mytouch 3g has slightly more but it comes with a vanilla android os.
cfvasquez said:
mytouch 3g has slightly more but it comes with a vanilla android os.
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Rogers magic has over twice the ran and can be rooted. so sense UI no problem.
Clinton
ClintonH said:
Rogers magic has over twice the ran and can be rooted. so sense UI no problem.
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comparing the rogers magic to the mytouch is lame.. anyone using the mytouch is gonna be on tmo & since the rogers wont get tmo's 3g its not in the same comparison..
edit: of course since the op didn't mention a mytouch it may be of comparison to them.. Also however there sig says htc magic which I believe means its the same as the rogers..
Sure tmobile could offer beefier fones, but they don't, but the fact that amoled is not being offered else where, I would get it just for that...
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comparing the rogers magic to the mytouch is lame.. anyone using the mytouch is gonna be on tmo & since the rogers wont get tmo's 3g its not in the same comparison..
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Wasn't comparing the Magic to a MyTouch, I was comparing to the Galaxy that was asked about by the OP.
Sony's Android phone Xperia X3 will have AM-OLED, since there the guys that own it.
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Better do some more reading on it. It comes with 128MB RAM (less than half of the Hero or Magic) and the same size screen (3.2" 320X480) as the Magic or Dream, just has AM-OLED.
Here are the specs.
Clinton
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Well that's just annoying. Why would they do that. Does that imapct speed also, or just the amount of apps you can install?
Otherwise I may have to get the Hero, if I can find a black or charcoal one.
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Wasn't comparing the Magic to a MyTouch, I was comparing to the Galaxy that was asked about by the OP.
Sony's Android phone Xperia X3 will have AM-OLED, since there the guys that own it.
Clinton
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you directly quoted text reguarding the mytouch not the galaxy..
kkhalil76 said:
Well that's just annoying. Why would they do that. Does that imapct speed also, or just the amount of apps you can install?
Otherwise I may have to get the Hero, if I can find a black or charcoal one.
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Nothing to do with installed/installing apps, it's the amount of memory the phone has to run apps and the OS (forget Sense or anything like it). Infact the Galaxy is supposed to have 7.5 GB of ROM according to the specs, tons of room to install. Just limited on how many you can run.
Clinton
Memory on Galaxy
Check out this video and check it at 9:00, it show memory of the device: gt-i7500
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Check out this video and check it at 9:00, it show memory of the device: gt-i7500
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That confirms it. Bugger all for system RAM.
Clinton
I'm getting one anyway, people that use it say it's fast and has no lag, plus the other benefits like the screen, earphone jack, flash, does it for me. Considered the Hero but seems to be too many complaints for my liking, gap at end of screen, bad reception etc.
ClintonH said:
Better do some more reading on it. It comes with 128MB RAM (less than half of the Hero or Magic) and the same size screen (3.2" 320X480) as the Magic or Dream, just has AM-OLED.
Here are the specs.
Clinton
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Actually Magic have 192MB RAM but when initializes radio and other ****z remains only 96MB for the system. Rogers have 192 and i7500 have 128MB
mitac112 said:
Actually Magic have 192MB RAM but when initializes radio and other ****z remains only 96MB for the system. Rogers have 192 and i7500 have 128MB
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Wrong, Rogers Magic comes with 288mb of RAM and 512 of ROM (Same specs as the Hero minus the Camera). Quite a bit of difference between it and the 32b boards your refering to, and absolutely kills the Galaxy's RAM. Here are the specs if you care to be informed.
Clinton
ClintonH said:
Wrong, Rogers Magic comes with 288mb of RAM and 512 of ROM (Same specs as the Hero minus the Camera). Quite a bit of difference between it and the 32b boards your refering to, and absolutely kills the Galaxy's RAM. Here are the specs if you care to be informed.
Clinton
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You have 288 RAM but kernel see ~192 because of the radio and other stuff memory requirements. You have no access to full 288MB.
I think I repeating myself
mitac112 said:
You have 288 RAM but kernel see ~192 because of the radio and other stuff memory requirements. You have no access to full 288MB.
I think I repeating myself
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If that is truly the case image what the Galaxy or your 32b Magic sees.
Clinton
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If that is truly the case image what the Galaxy or your 32b Magic sees.
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My Magic (32B) sees 96 and I think that Galaxy should have 128 free after initialization, because if it use ~100 for radio like HTC there will be no available RAM at all. Maybe Galaxy have separate memory for Radio I don't know
mitac112 said:
My Magic (32B) sees 96 and I think that Galaxy should have 128 free after initialization, because if it use ~100 for radio like HTC there will be no available RAM at all. Maybe Galaxy have separate memory for Radio I don't know
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Sure.
Clinton
Meaning Theoretically things /roms applying for 32B should also work on the G1 ?
sim-value said:
Meaning Theoretically things /roms applying for 32B should also work on the G1 ?
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Exactly the same, except for the lack of physical keyboard on the G2.
Thanks!
This helps me because ive already read much 'bout saphire hacking but my brother is now going to get a G1
the mytouch also has more ROM so you can store more apps, so the need for apps2sd is irrelevant.
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the mytouch also has more ROM so you can store more apps, so the need for apps2sd is irrelevant.
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unless you like to put a ton of apps on your phone like me, I prefer apps2sd. I didn't use it at first and maxed out the stock ROM the first day I got the phone. and yea most of the g1 roms for the dream should work fine on the MT3G. the devs usually specify 32b compatible somewhere in the first post.
so I have been looking around at mt3g roms and noticed that there is a 32b and 32a version. From what I have been told all mt3g's were 32a.
so my question is what is the difference between mt3g 32b and dream 32b?
no, all MT3G's are 32B. it is because their PVT board is different. Magics are 32A and have more ram, while MT3G's are 32B and have a little less ram
oshizzle's correct. And to further elaborate on your question "the differences between mt3g 32b and dream 32b", the mytouch has 512 megs of ROM while the dream has 256 megs of ROM (storage space, not to be confused with RAM).
Erm ... that's not correct ... for example HTC Magics in the UK use 32B boards ... but they are called HTC Magic on Vodafone, not MT3G.
AFAIK The correct way to tell is from the branding on the battery cover, the Google branded phones "with Google" are all 32B. HTC Branded phones are 32A.
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Erm ... that's not correct ... for example HTC Magics in the UK use 32B boards
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not trying to be rude, but didn't you just contradict yourself when you said this?
st0kes said:
HTC Branded phones are 32A.
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I don't think you explained yourself very well. It might confuse some people.
either way, i think we have either totally confused the OP, or fried his brain by how knowledgeable we all are haha
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I don't think you explained yourself very well. It might confuse some people.
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I see your point, I'll explain in a more concise way:
MyTouch3G does not exist in the UK. You can buy an HTC Magic here on Vodafone but it is a 32B board.
I hope the OP is not too confused!
all MyTouch 3G's are 32B. Some HTC Magics are also 32B in europe, depending on which one you get. The 32B version has 192mb RAM instead of 288MB RAM, and a slightly different processor.
I dont think there is a 32A or 32B dream.
Can someone give me a link on how to apply this?
Thanks
cashoplz said:
Can someone give me a link on how to apply this?
Thanks
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not needed on the 32A as it has 288mb ram, the 32B only has 192mb, so some choose to sacrifice the graphics ram for system ram at the cost of 3D gaming. Is your 32A slow?