killing me softly - standy time of 8h - HD2 General

Hi all, i've just bought a new htc hd2 from vodafone and i was amazed by every aspect of the terminal but the battery time. I had initialy the RUU_Leo_HTC_WWE_EastEurope_1.66.479.2_Radio_CRC_Signed_15.32.50.07U_2.07.51.22_2_Ship ROM and i thought that i should change it to a more optimized and newer version but that didn't happen with the new ROM : Duttys_Leo_Sense_2.5_5.21905.5.0.93_2.13_Radio_2.11.50.20_HG_V3.8 - still horrible battery time
I even tried some other optimization and tweaking tools : Advanced_Configuration_Tool_v3.3.cab & BsB Tweaks 1.6.cab with no visible results.
After a full charge leaving the phone in standby with only phone link + data link over HSDPA (no music listening, no web browsing and the weather, stocks at the max sync time available) i can get a max of 8h standby time which is plain horrible.
I have tried different combinations of things nothing worked.
I have just deleted all links from windows/startup after a new full charge and turned off all radio operations. After 15-30 minutes of standby the terminal is already at 93%.
So i think i have a problem. Is it a bad battery ? If not what could be eating up so fast the battery even in "flight mode" with all radio turned off ?
Did you guys ever encouter such a thing ?
What should i do ?

another weird thing : i did install a hspl in order to put in the new rom but i did it directly from a working environment cause i cannot seem to be able to either hard reset (vol up + vol dn + power) or enter bios (vol dn+power).
i saw another guy on another thread with the same issue.
i will not tempt fate and reflash it although i did it 4 times already with different roms.
is that even possible ?
how can i fix it ?
PS : although i am new to htc hd2 ... i still have and rommed like a 1000 times an old mio a701 so i consider myself knowledgeable.

update : after 90 minutes of plain standby with all radio off i am at 85% charge - so i am officially worried and need your advice on this !!!

Just a suggestion concerning the hardreset/bootloader: Did you really hold the Vol.Buttons until the tri-coloured screen appeared or did you release them before?

i had the buttons pressed all the time no tri color hspl screen , just the plain htc white screen normal boot. even tried it after a shutdown and reinsertion of the battery to be sure. same result:
normal boot : no hard reset or enter bios/hspl/tri color screen (which i can only see if i install a new rom using usb within the working OS, force reboot and enter hspl from the custom rom install program)

Did you use HSPL2 (recommended) and chose HSPL 2.08 or the normal/old one? Did you already try to install HSPL again?

i have installed the original hspl only once. no hspl2.

cristian.sava said:
i have installed the original hspl only once. no hspl2.
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Then try HSPL2 instead. Its more secure, you can choose the version and easily return to stock SPL:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=611433
DONT USE IT IF YOU HAVE A USA TMOB HD2 (But as i saw in your 1st post you dont have a 102MB Leo, right?)!!!

yes you are correct it is not a 1024 mb version.

i've just installed hspl 2.08 but before that i checked again the battery status : after 3 standby hours with all radio off the battery is at 70%.

just tried entering hspl : same result : it will not work by using hardware keys. it only works if it is initiated by usb via pc with a installer that tells the device to enter hspl. i am attaching a capture to confirm.

cristian.sava said:
just tried entering hspl : same result : it will not work by using hardware keys. it only works if it is initiated by usb via pc with a installer that tells the device to enter hspl. i am attaching a capture to confirm.
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Hmm only thing i can imagine is a defective hardware. Do your Volume buttons (especially Vol.Down) work properly when using the device...?

the volume hardware keys are working just fine for volume operations.
can this be some kind of vodafone thing ? Although i bought it from them
it isn't locked or with a vodafone logo on it.

cristian.sava said:
the volume hardware keys are working just fine for volume operations.
can this be some kind of vodafone thing ? Although i bought it from them
it isn't locked or with a vodafone logo on it.
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No it has definately nothing to do with VF. To more suggestions. Try the following:
Take out the battery for at least one or two minutes, take out the storage card, insert battery and try HR again.
In the past i made two mistakes because of which a HR didnt work:
1. i HELD the powerbutton instead of tapping it (but u can also try holding it, maybe its different on your device... saw p.ex. starbase 64 doing this on youtube)
2. i didnt press the two volume keys hard enough and released them too early ( i know i already mentioned that but just to be sure )

tried it both with tapping and holding down power button (while holding down volume down button) without the 8gb storage card in it ... no effect whatsoever...the first thing it does is vibrates and starts up normally with the white htc boot screen.

and of course the same is with the hardware reset .... i am wishing that i never bought this phone ... let's say that the hardware reset of hspl issue isn't that pressing ... but the battery issue is actually making me think of throwing it down the toilet ... but i'll refrain for after i get and test a new original battery.

Witht the 2.11.50.20 radio my hd2 with standard battery is using less than 1% of the battery per hour in standby mode. In full usage, with the wifi on and the cpu being hammaered it's 3% per hour at the most. I have fully discharged my battery several times when it was new. so you may want to let the battery run a dead a few times in a row or mebbe replace the battery.
A hard reset took me two atempts the first time. Holding both volume buttons down just right is a little tricky. So i seriously doubt that the phone is defective or vodafone have modified it (vodafone actually have a policy of not making any modifications to the devices themselves) but i think it is a small case of user error

M3PH said:
In full usage, with the wifi on and the cpu being hammaered it's 3% per hour at the most.
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LOL sure !!! What do you have? A nuclear-battery? A car battery? 33Hours of full usage? No way!!! People in this forum are talking about max 6-7 hours WiFi surfing or 4-5 hours of movies (both far away from using 100% backlight --> 40% or similar) and you tell us you can use your phone for 33 hours? Do me a favour, dont make users who already feel uncomfortable with their phone even more uncomfortable. That confuses users and is just not true.

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LOL sure !!! What do you have? A nuclear-battery? A car battery? 33Hours of full usage? No way!!! People in this forum are talking about max 6-7 hours WiFi surfing or 4-5 hours of movies (both far away from using 100% backlight --> 40% or similar) and you tell us you can use your phone for 33 hours? Do me a favour, dont make users who already feel uncomfortable with their phone even more uncomfortable. That confuses users and is just not true.
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Calm down!!! I was talking about a combined cycle and i turn things like the wifi off when i'm not using them and it's not like i have the time to spend 6 hours straight using the wifi. I always put the phone into standby when i'm not using it and never put it on charge untill the battery get's below 5% full. I also never use bluetooth. I have no need for it.
These are all tips that allow a very long cycle between charges. If users are uncomfortable with their devices then they have 2 choices. Get something else or do what i do and treat it with a massive amount of respect. They can also try updating they radio firmware from 2.06, 2.07 or 2.08 and use 2.11.50.20 because in standby it barely uses any power at all. I'm also using a 3.01 based rom which also seems to help lower battery consumption.

Related

Wizard shut itself down after about 20 sec.

I've had several Wizards with problems, the Wizard I've got right now has a problem that I've never seen before.
When I turn on the (SPV M3000) It shows the Orange bootscreen with this information:
IPL 2.18
SPL 2.18
GSM 01.04.10
OS 2.18.1.3
After seeing this bootscreen for about 20 seconds the SPV M3000 shut down itself.
Starting the phone from the bootloader doesn't make any difference.
When I use the buttons for a hard reset and press the send button, the phone shows Format is complete. After a few seconds it boots and show the bootscreen but than it also shut down itself.
Can anyone tell me if this is a hardware or a software issue ?
Cant say for sure.If the phone is still under warranty take it back for repairing.If it is not,hen you have screwed up anyway I mean if its not under warranty try upgrading the rom (flash it) to one of the many excellent roms available here..
It may be possible for a dead battery (or the battery failed to charge due to some reasons).
Pat123 said:
Cant say for sure.If the phone is still under warranty take it back for repairing.If it is not,hen you have screwed up anyway I mean if its not under warranty try upgrading the rom (flash it) to one of the many excellent roms available here..
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No the phone is not under warranty anymore. I bought if from someone becouse I thought it was just a simple problem. But how shouldI flash the rom if the phone shut itself down after 20 seconds ? This also happens when the phone is in bootloader mode.
starkwong said:
It may be possible for a dead battery (or the battery failed to charge due to some reasons).
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I allready used a full charged battery from another Wizard but still the same problem.
Is there some else with another solution please ?
Not much help from me here, but from what it seems, since the phone also shut downs in bootloader mode, it would heavily suspect it is a hardware fault (as it is not the battery). As in bootloader mode, you either can get into it or not. Once you are in it, it will go into a listening mode and do nothing. As such, I cant think of a software problem that can mess it up that good. As for the 20 seconds shut down, chances are there are some (example) short circuit around the unit that, once you switch it on, things inside gets hot, and activating the problem.
You can also do some test. Try to use a accurate stop watch (to the mili seconds) to time the shut down (in bootloader mode) in different temperature environment (i.e. at night cold, in the sun warm, etc), and it should give you a slight different in the shutdown time. IF NOT, you can hope it is a software issue.
The battery works on other Wizard?
I'm still having this problem, does anyone knows a solution ?
I had similar problem but after several times it restarted it was unable to turn it on again. It`s not working anymore. I think the same, that this is a hardware issue. Maybe the water or humidity caused some short circuit and made some damage.

Very Weird Startup Error - BLAC100 32M / SPL-1.14.0000 Serial

I've had this come up three days in a row now.
All the time it has happenned presumably overnight as when I attempt to wake the phone up from standby it shows me this.
I also suspect a battery problem as it was full overnight and I have been recharging it and it's only up to half-way. If the problem occurs again tomorrow morning, I'll check how much battery is left upon successful startup.
Any ideas?
This is bootloader mode!
SingaporeAirlines said:
I've had this come up three days in a row now.
All the time it has happenned presumably overnight as when I attempt to wake the phone up from standby it shows me this.
I also suspect a battery problem as it was full overnight and I have been recharging it and it's only up to half-way. If the problem occurs again tomorrow morning, I'll check how much battery is left upon successful startup.
Any ideas?
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It looks like the phone is being rebooted at some point and going into bootloader mode. This can only be achieved by holding down the lower volume button while powering up.
Have you scheduled a nightly reboot and if so is it in a tight fitting case that might be inadvertently pressing the lower vol button?
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SingaporeAirlines said:
I've had this come up three days in a row now.
All the time it has happenned presumably overnight as when I attempt to wake the phone up from standby it shows me this.
I also suspect a battery problem as it was full overnight and I have been recharging it and it's only up to half-way. If the problem occurs again tomorrow morning, I'll check how much battery is left upon successful startup.
Any ideas?
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it may be a dirty or broken lower Volumekey that is hanging. Try to open your case and clean it
Gisbourne said:
is it in a tight fitting case that might be inadvertently pressing the lower vol button?
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Matthes42 said:
it may be a dirty or broken lower Volumekey that is hanging. Try to open your case and clean it
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My volume rocker has been causing problems for about two weeks now. It sometimes goes up but a lot of the times it tries to lower the volume. I have opened up the case but can't find anything that looks out of shape or out of the ordinary.
I'll have a look at it again tonight and see if anything else is jamming it.
Thanks guys.
Still strange though 'cos it would also need a reboot too for it to put you in bootloader
Maybe a night backup schedule or a rom with the reset manager active?
May be some app (set up deliberately to reset) or some other app unintentionally crashing can cause this in presnce of a stuck vol down button.
ROM with reset manager unlikely as his book loader shows factory SPL
sstolk said:
Maybe a night backup schedule or a rom with the reset manager active?
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It didn't happen this morning or during the rest of today.
However, the volume button was stuck.
I also notice that the battery depleted substantially to the [ ]! mark.
I posit that the volume rocker is stuck at random times and when the screen is not switched off it obviously drains the battery leading to a reset.
Any tips on unblocking that volume rocker? I've tried to press out the button but it's not really working. There doesn't seem to be much I can do
I get the same error when i try to install an updated radio. Here's what i did:
- Used _HTC Touch HD_RUU_BlackStone_HTC_WWE-AFK_Radio_52.69.25.37_1.17.25.09_Only.exe
- versions: official dutch rom 1.56.404.1 (43972) NLD with radio 1.13.25.24, protocol 52.62.25.34W
- Put the NBH file on a formatted 6gb sdhc card
- Rebooted: long press power, short press power with volume_down pressed.
- I get the same screen with "Serial" on the bottom and no prompt.
I've read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=508717 and http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3438549&highlight=serial#post3438549. But, I haven't got any Xp machine (except virtual machines in Win7, which i don't trust for this matter), so using softspl is not an option either.
Can anyone help me? Should i buy a 2gb sd (non-hc) card perhaps?

Qtek 9090, strange problems with power

Cero92 said:
Hi all, i just got a Qtek 9090 with WM2003 (ITA). I upgraded to WM6.1, but now it has some strange problems: first of all, when it goes in standby, sometimes it doesn't wake up. If i have to reset it, most of times it doesn't boot (it shut down before WM loads) or i get R: None G: None and i have to reset again (otherwise the phone won't work).
The lock at the boot doesn't happen when the phone is connected at the USB port (i think that's because it charges, maybe it's a battery problem?)
Another thing is that i can't turn it off: if i hold pressed the power button, it deactivate the backlught but the device stays on, and if i make another long press, i get the backlight back again... I had this problem also with WM2003, maybe it's normal?
What do you think? Whan can i do?
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Have you make a HardReset?
The correct HardReset, not only reset and press Power button!!!
See in my HowTo Section...
and why not WM6.5.5 see here
yep, hard reset is a good start, but about your other problems:
the device does not really turn off, like other phones. pressing the power button makes it go to hibernate, the display turns off, depending on your settings, it locks the hardware buttons and it shuts off wi-fi, it hardly uses any energy but gsm/gprs stay on.
the device seems to be off, yet the phone is one and you can be called. that is the closest you get to switching it off. when you turn on airplane mode, the battery consumption is even less so there is not really a need to turn it off.
pressing and holding the power button always was for the backlight. many other devices open up a shutdown menu when you do that, that would allow you to turn it off, soft reset, or switch off the backlight, but for the BA, that is not the standard. however, if i read it right, d-two is working on remapping the power button, probably for that cause.
the R: none G: none issue is known and not a problem with your phone, whenever you run out of power or remove the battery for a second, the next boot will be w/o radio (R and most roms don't allow booting without it. that's why you get stuck there and have to perform a soft reset. back in the days of wm2003 i used to remove the battery when the device froze to reset it w/o the stylus, because it didn't matter then. with cooked roms, it is different, just like the booting splash screen or the way to perform a hard reset, many things change on a cooked rom.
the issue with waking up from standby, or the SOD (standby of death) is an issue, that most likely has something to do with a backup, restored after flashing another os, or maybe you didn't perform a hard reset, as stated by d-two. you should do that, now that the device is still new, you have nothing to lose
also, read through the tutorials posted by d-two and myself, whether you missed anything while flashing.
The "real" hard reset is the one i can get by pressing camera + record button and reset? If so, i already did it after flash (i use d-two 6.1 Manila ROM in WWE)
It shows me 3 options, i put on YES "Clean Registry Hive" and "Format Storage" then i press the mail button, the screen become white for a while and the next boot al seems to be ok.
It seems, because after some time i get again the "standby of death" and, if i press the reset button, the most of time it won't boot up again (it turns off before i can get to WM), if it works phone doesn't. All these boot problem can be avoided by connecting the phone to the usb cradle, so maybe it's also a battery problem, i think...
@ d-two: i'll try your new ROM, however before i've tried your 6.1 ROM
I've already read your guide because i've got Windows 7 and i couldn't flash without your tutorial
NEWS: installed d-two new ROM, after flash i made the hard reset selecting the second and the third options, then i get the blank screen and, when viewing the htc screen, it shut down itself like it did before
As always, with the usb connected, it has no problem :\
It can be battery power - battery is old, and it doesn't provide current [A], or voltage drops [V] and phone think, it's empty.
Maybe you can try with new battery, or buy 2 nokia bl-4c batteries and repair orginal battery (somewhere on forum there is a tutorial about that - but use bl4c, not bl5c like in tutorial - bl5c are too thick to fit)
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It can be battery power - battery is old, and it doesn't provide current [A], or voltage drops [V] and phone think, it's empty.
Maybe you can try with new battery, or buy 2 nokia bl-4c batteries and repair orginal battery (somewhere on forum there is a tutorial about that - but use bl4c, not bl5c like in tutorial - bl5c are too thick to fit)
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That's what i was thinking (and that's i hope it isn't)... Now with another recharge cycle it seems to be good also with cooked ROMs, i hope it's solved
Maybe you just have to charge/discharge it for 4-5 times, and it will restore it's capacity. Mine BA was turning off when battery indicator was showing ~60-70%, and now I'm waiting for new battery (i destroyed original )
"charge/discharge it for 4-5 times" does not have an effect on Li-ion kind of batteries. This is probably a software problem. When you turn your phone on (after removing a battery) it always shows "None" for R and G, so just press Reset button and it will be ok. I use Reset to power it on Then you can flash 6.5.5 which doesn't have problems, and do a hard reset. There should be no problem at all..
I also got the problem with the stock ROM :\
The R: None G: None error is the less important problem
Got any luck fixing it? I've had similar problems before, sometimes it turned itself off when the battery was at 60% in WM2003. Did you update to d-two's 6.5.5?
Yes, now i'm running d-two's 6.5.5 ROM.
No, i still had the problem Yesterday i called to the assistance service and they said me to remove the battery and after a while recharge it.
I put off the battery yesterday at 16 and i put it again in the phone this morning at 8, i charged it but i still have the problem
This evening i called again and they said me that i have to send it back, i'll flash the original ROM and send it on monday.
That's a shame, i really like this device, even if it's not mine, my sister uses it and she's not a pro user, what a waste
Didn't understand, what "assistance service"? This is very old phone, I just can't believe it has some kind of warranty
I have another battery, and using it the device turns it off sometimes while it's in the stand-by mode! Don't know why, the voltage on it is fine, I have measured it while working...
marko_serb said:
Didn't understand, what "assistance service"? This is very old phone, I just can't believe it has some kind of warranty
I have another battery, and using it the device turns it off sometimes while it's in the stand-by mode! Don't know why, the voltage on it is fine, I have measured it while working...
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I bought it on an eBay market and it offered 60 days warranty. It's not official HTC/Qtek warranty, but it doesn't make difference, as long as the device will work
If for you it happens only when it's in standby, maybe you just have the standby of death, the problem Chef Tony was talking about at post 3?
Cero92 said:
I bought it on an eBay market and it offered 60 days warranty. It's not official HTC/Qtek warranty, but it doesn't make difference, as long as the device will work
If for you it happens only when it's in standby, maybe you just have the standby of death, the problem Chef Tony was talking about at post 3?
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My Roms have no SOD
This is when vbase32 have all 01000000 base adress !!!
Search about SOD!!
No, this happens only with my old battery. I'll try it out now with this new ROM!
I was trying to understand his problem
Just to know, what kitchen do you use?
Cero92 said:
I was trying to understand his problem
Just to know, what kitchen do you use?
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First i have create my own kitchen but then i have found the OSBuilder and this is the best kitchen ever
With this kitchen you can look the Vbase32 for SOD!!!
Well, i trust you that your ROMs doesn't have SOD problem, in fact this happened to me also with the shipped WM2003 ROM, it's a real hardware issue
Cero92 said:
Well, i trust you that your ROMs doesn't have SOD problem, in fact this happened to me also with the shipped WM2003 ROM, it's a real hardware issue
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I think so, sorry
d-two said:
I think so, sorry
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No problem, i'll send it to the assistance on monday, i hope it won't take too much time :\
Cero92 said:
No problem, i'll send it to the assistance on monday, i hope it won't take too much time :\
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good luck But very cool that you have warranty

[Q] Bootloader Screen & Factory Reset

Hello everyone,
Pardon me if someone has the same problem like mine, and solutions have been found. My hd2 doesn't go into bootloader screen with pressing volume down key, but instead it loads magdlr 1.12 then DFT team's Android 2.2. The problem is my hd2 gets hot after a short usage, and then froze (or sometimes restart automatically). It happens more frequently now as I have this problem for some time now.
I have had good times using Android and WP7 with this phone, but for now, it's barely usable with overheating problem (I believe). If someone could point me a way to get back to original factory WM 6.5, I would really appreciate it.. Thank you ahead..
does your volume down key work ?
if you can get into bootloader just write a stock rom... if that fails at 8 % or 9% just put you phone in freezer ( without battery) for 5 - 10 min and start flashing
best regards from me
thanks for your response and suggestions..
Yes my volume down key work in Android... cooling the phone down would solve the problem but this isn't practical with very sensitive overheating :'(

HD2 can't boot-up on the following: tri-color, power button

Hello,
I got an HTC HD2 Leo which I had been re-flashed alot of times with
Windows 6.5(1st 2months when i got it)
Android 2.0 - 3.2(until March 2012)
problem encountered:
i do the usual steps in installing custom roms:
task29... and the rest... but on the last re-flashed i had...
I was installing recoveryworks... and after that the HD2 must reboot... after the reboot..
1. it wont power-up even pressing the power button
2. i can't access the tri-color by pressing volume down + power button.
I doubt i got my phone bricked(which i think I did) I sen't it back to HTC repair service and they said MOBO Problem
now my question is that, is their a way i could restore my phone to usable state?
I will update this thread once i got my phone back from he HTC Repair Service Center
additional info:
prior on flashing the HTC HD2 was working properly, the reason i reflashed it because the custom Rom i used in the long hours of use kept on hang-up and i should turn-on the phone for 30mins or more before i could use it again.
all requirements upon installation of the rom are ready:
radio = the recommended one
recoveryclockworks = working properly on previous customROM
....i forgot the other requirements but i assure you all are ready and installed...
try taking out the battery & see if the 3 pins are not bent then press the power & reset button(red) at the back near the battery
mengfei said:
try taking out the battery & see if the 3 pins are not bent then press the power & reset button(red) at the back near the battery
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no power when plug-in to charger...
battery is OK
the 3 pins are not bent
already done with the reset(red) button
will try it again tomorrow
No power upon plugin of charger....
does it mean the unit is dead?
cygee26 said:
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additional info:
prior on flashing the HTC HD2 was working properly, the reason i reflashed it because the custom Rom i used in the long hours of use kept on hang-up and i should turn-on the phone for 30mins or more before i could use it again.
all requirements upon installation of the rom are ready:
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This is what seems to be (IMO) a faulty motherboard with overheating failure CPU: did you try to put it in a freezer for 10-15 min. and see what happens next?
It worth it a try ...
cygee26 said:
Android 2.0 - 3.2(until March 2012)
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I'd love to know how you managed to flash Honeycomb
bib*oops said:
This is what seems to be (IMO) a faulty motherboard with overheating failure CPU: did you try to put it in a freezer for 10-15 min. and see what happens next?
It worth it a try ...
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I just' got my HD2 back from service center which they told me motherboard problem...
still the same no charging led indicator, no response on hard buttons
how was that possible the my cpu got heat problem since when i flash the custom roms i never tweaked the cpu nor the ram..
if i will put it on freezer will it possible to work?
hoping....
anyway...
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Originally Posted by cygee26
Android 2.0 - 3.2(until March 2012)
I'd love to know how you managed to flash Honeycomb
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honeycomb look... from gingerbread
i only used custom roms from 4 know chefs... as far as i can remember the honeycomb is the 1 i call "bumble bee"
i
any help guys....

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