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wifi tethering data usage

I have used about 700mb tethering my mt3g to my laptop. And need to tether about 1gb more. Am i going overboard? This is my first month having the phone so i dont have a pattern of internet useage yet. I really just want to know if this much useage will draw attention to my account. If this isnt considered alot what is? Thx.

I am pretty sure that T-Mobile is out of the "Stone Age" with their charging of serious usage. Lol.
Figuratively, the cannot charge for anything too significant. Especially considering, UNLIMITED actually means unlimited! Lol. You're in the clear, I use tethering all the time.

thank's dude thats what i was hopeing to hear. Didnt want to go overboard and get a massive bill.

rialsi6 said:
thank's dude thats what i was hopeing to hear. Didnt want to go overboard and get a massive bill.
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Yes.. Unlimited suppose to mean unlimited but many times it's not such a clear as it seems. Many offers with unlimited options has a little text with * "fair policy apply" or sth like that or unlimited but only within their network/services. Once upon a time my uncle in England had unlimited internet in his mobile phone so via bluetooth i connected it to my laptop and using normally browsing web with very little downloads cuz I was careful and wanted to check it first. After about 2 weeks suddenly his phone has been blocked. He called asking WTF is going on. They sad his bill exceeded a limit. We had to pay 200 pounds (400$) bill for a stupid internet usage!!! It was my most expensive Internet browsing.... So if I were you I would stop for now and wait for the bill first to check is everything ok or call your operator asking for the balance..
PS. It was about 2 years ago but even now I see many offers for a wireless internet (usb dongle) via GSM that says UNLIMITED DATA TRANSFER only 35F/month but always at the bottom is very small "fair policy apply"...

read the terms and conditions, it states specifically what they are going to do if you exceed a limit.

The fine print does not state a limit. Only something along the lines of "unusual usage". It is ultimately up to them, but there wirelsess laptop stick data plan has a 5 gig cap on it, so 700 megs does not sound too bad to me.

the latest t&c states 10 gigs, and after that they slow your speed down.

T-mobile "unlimited" data usage

So is there a limit on how much data can be used on the "unlimited" android plan? I did a google search and there was one article I found that said 1GB was the limit? is that true?.. I know Iphone has around 5GB "unlimited" data?
Anyone?

When the Dream (G1) came out they lifted the 1GB cap and now I believe there's a 5GB soft cap.

So I just did a t mobile chat
So I just did a t mobile chat and this is what i got;
rob: what is the "unlimited" data cap per month?
_Marion M: To provide a good experience for the majority of our customers and minimize capacity issues and degradation in network performance, we may take measures including temporarily reducing data throughput for a subset of customers who use a disproportionate amount of bandwidth; if your total usage exceeds 10GB (amount is subject to change; please periodically check T-Mobile.com for updates) during a billing cycle, we may reduce your data speed for the remainder of that billing cycle.

Like the response "rshemeld" got from his chat with Tmobile there is no cap to our Unlimited data plans like other providers may have.
We "Throttle Down" data transfer speeds after 10GB is exceeded during a bill cycle but there is still no overage charges (with all newer features). To this day I have talked to ONE person that has reached the 10GB throttling point during a bill cycle. On 3G network they were experiencing EDGE like speeds to give you an example of how much it is/can be throttled down.

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Sheldonjace said:
Like the response "rshemeld" got from his chat with Tmobile there is no cap to our Unlimited data plans like other providers may have.
We "Throttle Down" data transfer speeds after 10GB is exceeded during a bill cycle but there is still no overage charges (with all newer features). To this day I have talked to ONE person that has reached the 10GB throttling point during a bill cycle. On 3G network they were experiencing EDGE like speeds to give you an example of how much it is/can be throttled down.
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I just moved over from Verizon where i was a customer for many years. I fell in love with TMOUS HTC HD2 Leo at first sight. I asked the tmobile rep if "unlimited" really meant unlimited and she said yes, i asked her if there was any asterisk subtext or any LIMITS/restriction to this plan - still she replied 'no', now I get a message from tmobile saying that I have gone over 10gb data and that they would be throttling my plan down to 50kbs for the remainder of this billing cycle!
I am considering returning the device and canceling due to being misled. I made the sales rep say 3 times "unlimited and without restriction" yet now I slow crawl the web!
Sales and z marketing have to stop using catch words that simply aren't true like "free", "unlimited" and "satisfaction guaranteed"!

NYCspeedSurfer said:
I just moved over from Verizon where i was a customer for many years. I fell in love with TMOUS HTC HD2 Leo at first sight. I asked the tmobile rep if "unlimited" really meant unlimited and she said yes, i asked her if there was any asterisk subtext or any LIMITS/restriction to this plan - still she replied 'no', now I get a message from tmobile saying that I have gone over 10gb data and that they would be throttling my plan down to 50kbs for the remainder of this billing cycle!
I am considering returning the device and canceling due to being misled. I made the sales rep say 3 times "unlimited and without restriction" yet now I slow crawl the web!
Sales and z marketing have to stop using catch words that simply aren't true like "free", "unlimited" and "satisfaction guaranteed"!
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It is unlimited. You didn't get to 10gb and then all of a sudden get shut off. You got restricted from full access, however you are still able to use 3g networks without any limit.
Sorry, but if you want to beat these reps, you have to use correct vocabulary. Why would they tell you data usage can be restricted if you don't ask while they're trying to sell you a phone and slam you into a contract? That's just bad business.
Also, 10gb is A LOT. Especially for simple web-browsing and app downloading. If you want to download a HUGE file, wait until you get wifi. It's faster anyways.
Oh, you're not going to be able to cancel without a heavy fee just because you claim to have been "mislead." I agree with you, the rep SHOULD have told you, but then they wouldn't have gotten a commission.

Im in Georgia, i have gone over 10gb and they have not said or charged me anything, i didnt see a change in speed anyways, so i would say UNLIMITED SPEED/DATA.

rodr4813 said:
Im in Georgia, i have gone over 10gb and they have not said or charged me anything, i didnt see a change in speed anyways, so i would say UNLIMITED SPEED/DATA.
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That's what you would say. However, it DOES get cut down, whether you say it does or doesn't. So, you are wrong.

Oh but I can cancel as I am brand newwith tmous. I have 14 days under new contact and can cancel 100% without any penalty.
while I didn't specifically mention 10gb as a number, I did ask her if d/l massive amounts of data are there ANY restrictions or penalties, to which shereplied, "no".
An equal analogy would be to rent a hotel room that comes with an included shower that suddenly reduces from spray to a drip 10 minutes into the shower. With soap in your eyes and hair, you'd be none too happy as well, but am I going to check out??
I gave her every opportunity to "fess up" with a disclaimer, I even asked her about restrictions or disclaimers but got no warnings. As this is a brand new device on a brand new network (to me anyway), I wanted to put it to the test - streaming music, videos, d/l apps etc. This will not be my typical monthly usage.
Why not call this the 10gb data plan rather than unlimited?
you must work in Sales or you would agree that todays marketing lingo is intentionally misleading - especially since you mentioned her commission.
Will I check out? Probably not, but it'll be probably 3 weeks or so until the shower works right again. I guess I just needed to rant and advise others what CAN happen...

I spend all day every day on my phone at work (lots and lots of downtime) and I've never come anywhere near 10GB. Tethering isnt technically legal, so if you're doing that, you have nothing to complain about since you're breaking the rules anyway.

NYCspeedSurfer said:
Oh but I can cancel as I am brand newwith tmous. I have 14 days under new contact and can cancel 100% without any penalty.
while I didn't specifically mention 10gb as a number, I did ask her if d/l massive amounts of data are there ANY restrictions or penalties, to which shereplied, "no".
An equal analogy would be to rent a hotel room that comes with an included shower that suddenly reduces from spray to a drip 10 minutes into the shower. With soap in your eyes and hair, you'd be none too happy as well, but am I going to check out??
I gave her every opportunity to "fess up" with a disclaimer, I even asked her about restrictions or disclaimers but got no warnings. As this is a brand new device on a brand new network (to me anyway), I wanted to put it to the test - streaming music, videos, d/l apps etc. This will not be my typical monthly usage.
Why not call this the 10gb data plan rather than unlimited?
you must work in Sales or you would agree that todays marketing lingo is intentionally misleading - especially since you mentioned her commission.
Will I check out? Probably not, but it'll be probably 3 weeks or so until the shower works right again. I guess I just needed to rant and advise others what CAN happen...
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Good, I would get out of a contract. They're no good.
10gb data plan would be misinterpreted by the common public. People would think they would ONLY get 10gb to use a month, and you'd be surprised how many people think 10gb is very little. Talking data usage on a cellphone, that's PLENTY with PLENTY to spare. I don't use HALF of that a month with constant internet usage. Also, many people would go run off to another cellphone company that says unlimited but cuts down download speed after 500mb of data usage. Its all in marketing. Besides, doesn't "unlimited data" plan sound better than "data plan where you use 10gb and then it gets cut down to half of your regular download speed but you'll still have access to data usage" plan?
Maybe the rep didn't know, maybe they were trying to make their commission. It is in the fine print somewhere, though.

Using tethering I've been getting to 10GB every month for about the last 4 or 5. They just lower your download speed to 50kb/s, although it still tells you you're at 3G speeds. Other than that though there is no "cap" where they cut your data plan altogether.

No, I was not tethered. I did however d/l lots of movie torrents via wmtorrent. Next time will use wifi when I can but I dont have as pc or wifi-I piggyback on unsecured, public nets.
Thanks for listening...

Lemeja said:
Using tethering I've been getting to 10GB every month for about the last 4 or 5. They just lower your download speed to 50kb/s, although it still tells you you're at 3G speeds. Other than that though there is no "cap" where they cut your data plan altogether.
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I never tether, that's probably why I never get close to cap. Always too slow for me.
NYCspeedSurfer said:
No, I was not tethered. I did however d/l lots of movie torrents via wmtorrent. Next time will use wifi when I can but I dont have as pc or wifi-I piggyback on unsecured, public nets.
Thanks for listening...
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THAT'S what caused you break the cap. They probably took hours, too.
Was that last comment an attempt at being a smart ass? o.o

Sorry, no disrespect nor smarta$$ remarks intended towards anyone - apologies if I was misunderstood by anyone.

NYCspeedSurfer said:
Sorry, no disrespect nor smarta$$ remarks intended towards anyone - apologies if I was misunderstood by anyone.
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Nah, it's just hard to tell on the internet.

so u just used it for less than 14 days n u have 10gb usage? wow...!!!
NYCspeedSurfer said:
Oh but I can cancel as I am brand newwith tmous. I have 14 days under new contact and can cancel 100% without any penalty.
while I didn't specifically mention 10gb as a number, I did ask her if d/l massive amounts of data are there ANY restrictions or penalties, to which shereplied, "no".
An equal analogy would be to rent a hotel room that comes with an included shower that suddenly reduces from spray to a drip 10 minutes into the shower. With soap in your eyes and hair, you'd be none too happy as well, but am I going to check out??
I gave her every opportunity to "fess up" with a disclaimer, I even asked her about restrictions or disclaimers but got no warnings. As this is a brand new device on a brand new network (to me anyway), I wanted to put it to the test - streaming music, videos, d/l apps etc. This will not be my typical monthly usage.
Why not call this the 10gb data plan rather than unlimited?
you must work in Sales or you would agree that todays marketing lingo is intentionally misleading - especially since you mentioned her commission.
Will I check out? Probably not, but it'll be probably 3 weeks or so until the shower works right again. I guess I just needed to rant and advise others what CAN happen...
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jonze5 said:
so u just used it for less than 14 days n u have 10gb usage? wow...!!!
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He downloaded movie torrents. Those are about 700mb - 800mb for just .avi.

r3s-rt said:
He downloaded movie torrents. Those are about 700mb - 800mb for just .avi.
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That's the.avi, if it was torrent's he was downloading, .torrent files are only a few kb each!

Didn't know they throttle you at 10 gb but its good to know that it really is unlimited data.

I owe T-Mobile 41,000$ USD?!?

Seriously.
So, yesterday around noon, I noticed that I didn't have a data connection. I checked my account on a desktop - all's good, don't owe 'em any dough. I call 'em up, expecting a network outage, or something similar.
"We're going to have to transfer you to our high balance department."... Um, Ok.
First person I talk to, figure out the situation fairly quickly; I've used 81GB in the last month, and despite being on the 25$ / month unlimited data plan, the system has freaked out and wants to charge me for it all - sort of. It's listed on my account as 'unbilled data charges'. Anyway, she re-enables my data plan, and will call me back when her supervisor is off the phone. She agrees with me that it's a bug, that my 25$ a month plan should cover it - it's unlimited, after all.
I call back about 3 hours later, and get a clueless guy. He basically tells me that he can't do anything, the ticket is already at a higher level than him, and that I should be getting a call tomorrow (that'd be today)... but goes on to discuss the issue with me anyway.
First, he tells me that he sees that I have 'unlimited web' - I say 'oh, heck no' - it's unlimited data; I'd never sign up for something called unlimited web. He agrees, but goes on to note that unlimited data doesn't cover 'downloading'. I ask him how he expects to view a web page without downloading data - oh, he didn't mean that, he means 'music and games'. Okay, how do they track that separately? He doesn't know - shocker, there. Whatever; I end the call.
This morning, I get a call from a somewhat more knowledgeable guy - admittedly, he opened the conversation by noting that I appeared to have excessive 'data roaming charges' - nope, never did any roaming - and that the useage in question was 'all last weekend' - I -wish- their network (or the Nexus!) could handle 80gb over a 48 hour period. We come to agree that this is basically a glitch in their system - they had to assign some max value somewhere to bytes used per month (there's no way programatically to say infinite, besides, warning bells when someone like me goes nuts with the bandwidth is probably useful to 'em), and I hit that limit, and the system couldn't figure out what to do billing-wise... Apparently, to clear the mess completely, they have to refer it up to some tech department, and I should hear back in ~ 72 hours or so.
So, long story shortened: 41,000$ is a scary number to hear over the phone, but 25$ unlimited data trumps 41,000$ billing glitch.

shograt said:
Seriously.
So, yesterday around noon, I noticed that I didn't have a data connection. I checked my account on a desktop - all's good, don't owe 'em any dough. I call 'em up, expecting a network outage, or something similar.
"We're going to have to transfer you to our high balance department."... Um, Ok.
First person I talk to, figure out the situation fairly quickly; I've used 81GB in the last month, and despite being on the 25$ / month unlimited data plan, the system has freaked out and wants to charge me for it all - sort of. It's listed on my account as 'unbilled data charges'. Anyway, she re-enables my data plan, and will call me back when her supervisor is off the phone. She agrees with me that it's a bug, that my 25$ a month plan should cover it - it's unlimited, after all.
I call back about 3 hours later, and get a clueless guy. He basically tells me that he can't do anything, the ticket is already at a higher level than him, and that I should be getting a call tomorrow (that'd be today)... but goes on to discuss the issue with me anyway.
First, he tells me that he sees that I have 'unlimited web' - I say 'oh, heck no' - it's unlimited data; I'd never sign up for something called unlimited web. He agrees, but goes on to note that unlimited data doesn't cover 'downloading'. I ask him how he expects to view a web page without downloading data - oh, he didn't mean that, he means 'music and games'. Okay, how do they track that separately? He doesn't know - shocker, there. Whatever; I end the call.
This morning, I get a call from a somewhat more knowledgeable guy - admittedly, he opened the conversation by noting that I appeared to have excessive 'data roaming charges' - nope, never did any roaming - and that the useage in question was 'all last weekend' - I -wish- their network (or the Nexus!) could handle 80gb over a 48 hour period. We come to agree that this is basically a glitch in their system - they had to assign some max value somewhere to bytes used per month (there's no way programatically to say infinite, besides, warning bells when someone like me goes nuts with the bandwidth is probably useful to 'em), and I hit that limit, and the system couldn't figure out what to do billing-wise... Apparently, to clear the mess completely, they have to refer it up to some tech department, and I should hear back in ~ 72 hours or so.
So, long story shortened: 41,000$ is a scary number to hear over the phone, but 25$ unlimited data trumps 41,000$ billing glitch.
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81GBs!!! Damn man, i can only imagine what you download!

Stop torrenting when you tether!!!!
But I was aware that when you reached the 10gb cap they have on thier data plans, they just throttle you to edge till your next billing cycle.

Woah, let me ask First of all. 81GB??? Thats a hell of a lot data. im thinking tethering maybe? But whatever thast not the problem here.
So i took a look around T-mobile.com and the Plan specifically says " Unlimited Data" not web or any of that so you're right.
However i would expect for T-mobile to give you problems after reaching such "limit"
Keep us posted with your Talk with the reps and if you ever have any questions always ask to speak with a supervisor to handle this specific issue. Im thinking they should let you go with a warning.
For what? well unlimited is never unlimited but rather just another word for anytime use over the period of a month. Yup!
and i have read however like the G1 plan came with a 10Gb Cap unlimited data. meaning that you can access the internet 24/7 while staying under the 10GB range of data downloads.
But that does not apply so much as after you reach such levels, you should be "capped" right, meaning cut off the internet for the remaining period of the month. So dont let them convince you otherwise, i dont even make that a YEAR ...WTF????
THATS A PRETTY BIG NUMBER, i'd shoot myself.
Good Luck and let me know how it goes

Happend to me once when i had my palm treo, Except it was 1,600$ my parents about had a heart attack when they got the bill in the mail.

Austin021296 said:
Happend to me once when i had my palm treo, Except it was 1,600$ my parents about had a heart attack when they got the bill in the mail.
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Mind Sharing the outcome?

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Mind Sharing the outcome?
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Well my mom called the next morning to see what was going on and apparently it was some roaming charges, we were in Mexico the following week for vacation but luckily we got to talk to a supervisor or some head guy and they took them off, just charged the regular data plan.

81GB of data transfer in one weekend? i don't think i do that much in a month between my phone, PC, xbox, PS3, AND laptop. damn man lol
hope it all works out in the end.

There was a Guy on att last year who got a 20k bill for slingboxing a whole football game.

I hope it gets cleared up. The only possible way to reach 80gb on a mobile phone is to tether it, and if you did no such thing then it clearly is a glitch.

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I hope it gets cleared up. The only possible way to reach 80gb on a mobile phone is to tether it, and if you did no such thing then it clearly is a glitch.
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Installing a torrent client on your phone will do it. Multiple exchange accounts will do it as well. My dad averaged about 100 GB/month on his data plan, and that was sheerly from constant exchange pushes from his corporate exchange account. My buddy was averaging 10-20 gigs/week from torrenting on his phone.

Lemme clear up a few things:
a) none of the reps I've spoken to, in any of the departments, expects me to be liable for and part of 41,000$; I have the unlimited data plan, the billing's a glitch. And isn't showing on my account, either; I owe 'em 0.00$, since I'm paid up for the past month.
b) this wasn't on a single weekend; I wish t-mob's service was capable of 500K/s =) It isn't. This was 81GB over the period of a month.
c) Capping: they do this, or rather, they do throttling; as you reach various 'milestones', they cap you to 50k/s. Mind you, it doesn't work; typically, after receiving a text msg that I'd been throttled, I'd still see speeds in excess of 100k/s. Cutting you off completely, should never be the answer.
d) What could account for that amount of useage: yes, tethering could do it; however, it can be done through other means as well. F'r'instance, 'newsrob', an offline newsreader: I have had it set in the past to 500 articles, full bore (not just newsfeed, but also full webpage + images), refresh every 30 minutes. With a decent stack of rss feeds, this can keep your bandwidth pegged constantly.

LOL. Hope the OP gets it taking care of.
I use tether heavily on my N1 account with TMO, but have never had any issues. Tethering to a notebook, etc. will definitely rack up data usage quickly
For example:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
It's funny that TMO's website shows a "usage bar" for data when it's unlimited...
Cheers,
Kermee

That's a lot of lolcat vids you downloaded my friend.
Just kidding, funny story =)

Sickening. You all won't be happy until we have 5 gig hard caps to control the quality of service.

heygrl said:
Sickening. You all won't be happy until we have 5 gig hard caps to control the quality of service.
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If I'm correct, AT&T I think does have a 5 GB cap.
Though if you're tethering, 81 GB seems a bit...light.

PacoL250 said:
If I'm correct, AT&T I think does have a 5 GB cap.
Though if you're tethering, 81 GB seems a bit...light.
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They don't, it's unlimited for now but they will have to do something about it to control people like the OP dragging down the network quality.

heygrl said:
They don't, it's unlimited for now but they will have to do something about it to control people like the OP dragging down the network quality.
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Looks like AT&T does actually:
AT&T Plan Terms
Oh and as for the OP "dragging down the network quality," that's clearly any service provider's fault for not realizing demand and possibly even throttling accordingly. That's the whole issue I have with data plans, but I won't go into that here.

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They don't, it's unlimited for now but they will have to do something about it to control people like the OP dragging down the network quality.
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Connections are throttled after using 10 gigs, to maintaing quality connections for everyone else.
Go cry somewhere else about nothing in particular.

muncheese said:
Connections are throttled after using 10 gigs, to maintaing quality connections for everyone else.
Go cry somewhere else about nothing in particular.
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No they aren't, if they we're throttled down to 50kbps reaching 80GB would be nearly impossible. That and I know for a fact that T-Mobile doesn't throttle for "certain". They clearly state that they MAY throttle you down and to get to 80GB you must be doing something against the TOS.
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Looks like AT&T does actually:
AT&T Plan Terms
Oh and as for the OP "dragging down the network quality," that's clearly any service provider's fault for not realizing demand and possibly even throttling accordingly. That's the whole issue I have with data plans, but I won't go into that here.
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They clearly have stated that data plans for smartphones isn't limited. Regardless, they will notice it and we will all be reduced to tiered data plans that will probably be more expensive than what we pay now to make up on what they lose not charging a flat rate to people that use less.

5% of data users

i got a text today that im att top 5% data user so they slowed down my data speed to like 3g wtf is this legal
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I have been throttled for the last 2 weeks now. I think its a bunch of BS and now most of my apps barely work now cuz my speeds are so low. I tried to contact a class action law firm and it wouldn't even send cuz my speeds are so low at times. I'll try again today but I personally don't think its legal
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Fwiw, i was throttled 3 weeks into my billing period. My usage was 1.7 gigabytes (remember, over the first3 weeks of the billing cycle) at that point.
My normal down speeds range 1.5-4mbps. Now, I am throttled down to 150kbps.
Like the last poster, lots of apps are unusable and essentially has left me without data for most uses besides basic weboage viewing. This has happened the last 3 months and I have reduced my usage in fear of this the last 2. I think its BS that Im being throttled for 1.7 gigabytes of use 3/4s of the way through my billing period and I expect to just keep getting throttled every month til I disconnect att.
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1.7 gig, that's crazy
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Before you go calling in the calvalry, I recommend reading your terms of service.. Not the ones that GayT&T gave you when you signed up, but the ones that currently apply. They always put a clause in there stating they can change the rules and whatnot you agree on, so get the latest. THEN.. have a law-savvy individual give it a once-over. These companies change their terms in order to "improve services" for everyone. This means that they may want to throttle your bandwidth in order to provide more to others while they enhance their network coverage. Basically, their network is flooded and overwhelmed with traffic and they cant keep up.. However, in my opinion, they have way more money than us and can make these upgrades as needed. Stating they cannot is basically saying "we want more money and dont care till we lose customers". I have ran into this rut a few times with cellular providers, and I honestly see no way to easily deal with it besides getting service with no contract. Providers dislike this, but it opens new means to reasonable service over time as masses change service. And as far as a lawsuit, if you find the nugget of gold to get you to win, screw a class-action lawsuit. Do it yourself with a lawyer, because it's a huge gamble either way, but the payoff will be significantly more doing it solo... Or, you can go with a class-action suit and get 10 bucks out of it. At least your point would get across..

I was also in the to 5% the last two months and am throttled. There is a thread about this in every att phone forum on xda. Total bull**** is what it is.
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wow,
Must be with the 2gig users and up, because me and my wife are on the 200MB plan, and each month i come very close, to it, like 189mb give or take each month, all i get is a txt saying your close to your limit. but i never get throttled.
must be since 200MB isnt crap. for me, thats like 2 web pages lol.
I did go over once, by like 1 MB and i got charged another $15.00 , as*holes. but i am not paying an extra $$$ for the 2 gigs, when most of the time, there are wifis all over so. data is getting cheaper and cheaper, and so far sprint is the truly unlimited. But there service sux. so im sticking with att. but everyone will go to unlimited. I dont mind unlimited with throttling a little but down to only 150-250kbs, is crap. If im not using my data, and im not in a wifi area, i just turn the data part off. Im not a huge facebook fan, and I only update apps etc, when im on a wifi. so. but there are alot of people out there that update there freakbook stats every time they take a dump.
The only time u should be getting throttled is if u go over by ALOT. but hey, AT&T is getting alot of money for those who go over. so why do they care.

**** att and they're dirty business practices. Anyone with unlimited data is getting emails about being in the top 5% of data usage and then throttle us to the point where the phone is useless. There response is use wifi, wtf I'm suppose to stay home when i use my phone? I will be joining the class action law suit with many other pissed off customers.
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Here is your Ferrari sir with unlimited gas. You can only drive it 5 miles per hour though.
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im going to sprint f*** this they getting the nexus
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pcrat said:
wow,
Must be with the 2gig users and up, because me and my wife are on the 200MB plan, and each month i come very close, to it, like 189mb give or take each month, all i get is a txt saying your close to your limit. but i never get throttled.
must be since 200MB isnt crap. for me, thats like 2 web pages lol.
I did go over once, by like 1 MB and i got charged another $15.00 , as*holes. but i am not paying an extra $$$ for the 2 gigs, when most of the time, there are wifis all over so. data is getting cheaper and cheaper, and so far sprint is the truly unlimited. But there service sux. so im sticking with att. but everyone will go to unlimited. I dont mind unlimited with throttling a little but down to only 150-250kbs, is crap. If im not using my data, and im not in a wifi area, i just turn the data part off. Im not a huge facebook fan, and I only update apps etc, when im on a wifi. so. but there are alot of people out there that update there freakbook stats every time they take a dump.
The only time u should be getting throttled is if u go over by ALOT. but hey, AT&T is getting alot of money for those who go over. so why do they care.
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I'm pretty sure Throttling is only for unlimited users. If you go over your 200 MB they'll happily charge you the overage and keep serving more.
As an aside, if you're on the 200 MB plan you can go online and change your data plan for the billing period when you go over and backdate it to the beginning of the month. then change it after the billing cycle is up.

upNsmokeAllDay said:
Here is your Ferrari sir with unlimited gas. You can only drive it 5 miles per hour though.
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A better ananlogy would be, "you can drive it as fast as you want for the first 5 miles."
I don't see a class-action suit being successful here. The contract is for unlimited data, not for unlimited data at maximum speed. If AT&T can show that a small percentage of users are using an extraordinarily high percentage of overall bandwidth, throttling may be seen as a legitimate answer to improve overall network performance.
Although, a case like this would never make it to trial. AT&T would settle and anybody who was throttled will likely get a couple dollars. AT&T would continue to throttle.

pcrat said:
wow,
Must be with the 2gig users and up, because me and my wife are on the 200MB plan, and each month i come very close, to it, like 189mb give or take each month, all i get is a txt saying your close to your limit. but i never get throttled.
must be since 200MB isnt crap. for me, thats like 2 web pages lol.
I did go over once, by like 1 MB and i got charged another $15.00 , as*holes. but i am not paying an extra $$$ for the 2 gigs, when most of the time, there are wifis all over so. data is getting cheaper and cheaper, and so far sprint is the truly unlimited. But there service sux. so im sticking with att. but everyone will go to unlimited. I dont mind unlimited with throttling a little but down to only 150-250kbs, is crap. If im not using my data, and im not in a wifi area, i just turn the data part off. Im not a huge facebook fan, and I only update apps etc, when im on a wifi. so. but there are alot of people out there that update there freakbook stats every time they take a dump.
The only time u should be getting throttled is if u go over by ALOT. but hey, AT&T is getting alot of money for those who go over. so why do they care.
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JuanDaDon86 said:
im going to sprint f*** this they getting the nexus
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Sprint has the WORST coverage of all of the carriers (I tried them ALL last year), at the very least in my area they are the worst. Also, dont buy into there lies about not throttling, SPRINT THROTTLES there is no doubt about that. Also Sprint advertises a good price, but its also a lie, they charge an extra $10 that they don't mention just because. There unlimited plan costs $100+ (regardless of what they advertise, when you get the bill you will see I assure you, I have been there) and on Att I pay slightly less than $100 for much better service. I am not always happy with Att, in fact most of the time I am unhappy with them, but I'm definitely not going to take a step back to Sprint, a more expensive service with less coverage. At least when Att lies they use some inventive techniques like "The Atrix is capable of HSPA", thats not a lie, but it seams unethical. When Sprint lies they just flat out lie. They lie about their prices. They lie about throttling. The CEO goes on thier commercials and straight up lies to the whole country saying they don't throttle, then tells Forbes the truth. Hopefully you hear my warning and avoid Sprint like the plague, but if you choose to do business with them you will see for yourself soon enough.
mandrsn1 said:
A better ananlogy would be, "you can drive it as fast as you want for the first 5 miles."
I don't see a class-action suit being successful here. The contract is for unlimited data, not for unlimited data at maximum speed. If AT&T can show that a small percentage of users are using an extraordinarily high percentage of overall bandwidth, throttling may be seen as a legitimate answer to improve overall network performance.
Although, a case like this would never make it to trial. AT&T would settle and anybody who was throttled will likely get a couple dollars. AT&T would continue to throttle.
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Agreed.

stewartsoda said:
I'm pretty sure Throttling is only for unlimited users. If you go over your 200 MB they'll happily charge you the overage and keep serving more.
As an aside, if you're on the 200 MB plan you can go online and change your data plan for the billing period when you go over and backdate it to the beginning of the month. then change it after the billing cycle is up.
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I agree they are only throttling the unlimited users. I had that problem till I switched plans (actually they forced the switch, but that is another long thread in itself). Once I got to a metered plan, they stopped throttling, and were more than happy to charge for data overages.
ATT still thinks that customer service is to give you as little as possible based on their outdated infastructure instead of updating\modernizing and providing the customer what they want. They still can't figure whether to update their existing equipment for 3g, or go with LTE, so they are trying to do both. Two years now they been touting 3g and still have about the slowest data speeds, nowhere near what the 3g is supposed to be.
If we as individuals had the power to sue them, they would be more inclined to attempt to meet customer demands and stop the false advertising. Thank congress for taking away the right to sue.

So they offer a 2GB plan and a 4GB plan, and then they turn around and try and claim that someone using less than 2GB is among the top 5%!?
I call BS on that and that could be the only hope for a class action suit; make at&t prove the data usage they claim. With netflix and youtube and all sorts of streaming services there is no way that 1.7GB puts you in the top 5%.
By the way, I'm at 1.8GB about halfway through my billing period on normal usage for me and I have never been throttled yet.

martinisadork said:
By the way, I'm at 1.8GB about halfway through my billing period on normal usage for me and I have never been throttled yet.
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It's top 5% in your market. I feel sorry for those in retirement communities.

thats what really gets me going about some of these carriers, i'm on a unlimited plan with verizon but am careful not to overdo it, keep hearing cases of people getting throttled etc...its seems to me unlimted should never be limited, perhaps we need to hand them a dictionary

rquinn19 said:
It's top 5% in your market. I feel sorry for those in retirement communities.
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what happens if you travel alot?

gammite said:
what happens if you travel alot?
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I'm assuming it's still your home market and I'm guessing that has something to do with the FCC and how they are getting away with it. There's a lot of rules that pertain to your market. I read a little about it when trying to port two lines over that were from different markets. Couldn't happen, was only able to keep one of the numbers.

I had the same problem a few months back.
Speculation from a lower division rep is that they're trying to push everyone who has the unlimited data to tier plans because as far as I know, a lot of users with unlimited who have gotten the top 5% warning in the past are getting capped around 2GB
I spoke with an upper division rep and this is what they said, and this is not word for word:
If you get flagged once as a top 5% user, you will stay flagged indefinitely. This means that whenever you reach the top 5% (I asked, not specified as to how that works considering every one has a different billing cycle and top 5% of which users, unlimited or every one, or every one that is flagged), you will get reduced speeds.
For those with unlimited who have never been flagged and reach past 2GB will not be flagged unless they deem you a serious data user.
How they define top 5% is not specific, but is based on their "research".
Now you're thinking if less and less people want to get capped, they'll use less data, and therefore the top data usage number will change, that sounds exactly like what they're trying to do. I asked about that, but she said she has no idea about how they actually do the capping except once you're flagged, you're flagged, especially since you're getting capped around 2GB.
Just letting you guys know the facts I got from the CSR and their supervisor.

To any one wanting the S3 on verizon read this.( Unlimited data ending)

They are going to KILL YOUR unlimited data like this: http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/16/verizon-cfo-says-grandfathered-unlimited-plans-on-the-way-out/
I think If I get this phone now it will be unlocked on AT&T.
Just wanted to give the 2 gig news.

Did I miss something or does that article not mention Galaxy SIII on Verizon whatsoever..?
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It clearly mentioned Verizon and it's pertaining to those who would upgrade to the s3
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I_FLY_Z3R0 said:
It clearly mentioned Verizon and it's pertaining to those who would upgrade to the s3
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That what this thread is about, becuase I know some of you are waiting for it to come to verizon and have the unlimited data plan.

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It clearly mentioned Verizon and it's pertaining to those who would upgrade to the s3
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I must not be reading the same article. This linked article doesn't mention GS3 ANYWHERE. ..its about unlimited data, data share, grandfathered customers and LTE.
I read it twice and it still doesn't mention the Galaxy SIII
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..would you mind telling me where it "clearly" mentions upgrading to the S3?
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Coreym said:
I must not be reading the same article. This linked article doesn't mention GS3 ANYWHERE. ..its about unlimited data, data share, grandfathered customers and LTE.
I read it twice and it still doesn't mention the Galaxy SIII
..would you mind telling me where it clearly mentions upgrading to the S3?
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Its right there, between the lines. Can't you see it! Geez!

This is for any one waiting for the S3 to come to verizon, but likely would not want to lose there unlimited. Just giving a head's up to them. I know most here are on AT&T like I am, but I wanted to give verizon user's a head's up so they can do what ever fit's there needs best.
Now I don't think verizon will get this phone, but some do and this is for them.

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Its right there, between the lines. Can't you see it! Geez!
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Haha.. dude, I'm not reading it again. It mentions 3G but no S3. Sorry. And its not even about the device its about the data plan and grandfathered 3G users being forced into a "shared" data plan with new LTE phones.
Did you read the article?
*edit* maybe I misunderstood the title of this thread. My bad.. you made it sound like it was article about Verizon getting the gs3, then after I read it it turned out to be an just article about data usage and grandfathered customers. Maybe the thread title could use a different title but meh.. that's just me.
Lol.. nice title edit!
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Yeah, it's about the plans. You can't upgrade and keep the unlimited data but you can buy the phone full price and keep your grandfathered plan.
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So are you saying that it is not worth trying to hold out for either the Razr HD or the SGS3 on Verizon in the event that you are sacrificing one last subsidized phone purchase for the next two years? I'm at a stand still here, because as long as I'm still able to retain my unlimited I wanna see if something comes out before the new plans come into place and I won't be able to keep it without paying full retail for one (course I'm gonna keep doing that as long as I can maintain my unlimited, And when they MAKE me change I will leave them immediately and never look back). However! I actually have a line on my account right now that still has a $100 2year loyalty discount attached. This is why it would be awesome to be able to hold off as long as I can to see if i could snag a Razr HD or SGS3 with that discount before I wont be able to use it.
Obviously my two main choices are the RAZR maxx and the Galaxy Nexus. I absolutely hate that the razr max has that weird resolution tho and no removable battery so I'm much more inclined to the Galaxy. What are your guys thoughts on this? My brother has the galaxy and i love its size and plenty of awesome roms to choose from which completely negate its typical bad ratings in battery life. This is coming from the HTC droid incredible and I was able to get a max of 36 hours on CM7 with incredikernal... mind you it has a weenie 1300mah battery... So I'm excited to finally get a 4g phone seeing the speeds it can produce!
On top of that im so sick of seeing people saying that it is impossible to use over 2g of data in a month with regular usage. I tested out this month on my 3g incredible using it as lil as I possibly could and still have gotten right about 3.2gb after only 18 days. This is with hardly any youtube at all approximately 18mb worth so far, and absolutely no wifi (if im paying for a service.. aka unlimited data, why bother using my wifi which can be throttled by my cable company as well for overuse.) With my family we currently use between 6-10gb per DAY.. of data on our home internet! So how are you possibly going to tell me 2gb is sufficient for phone data. Anyone who says that doesnt use their phone for anything it is capable of doing.. which makes me wonder... why have a SMARTPHONE when you dont use any of its features?
Verizon has been pushing it uses of several different apps and to be used on its network now.. and with phones having hd screens and 4g capability the usage is only going to continue to grow more and more. I could see myself easily capping over 10gb per month with a 4g enabled phone. seeing as how my average currently over the span of my 3g phone is sitting somewhere close to 5gb.
It is simply easy to rack up this kind of data use with it being usable pretty much anywhere and with the mobile hotspot feature being very useful on trips. So let me ask you.. how much do you think I'm going to want to use, and will use, when my speeds increase to 10mb/s+ from my current 3mb/s at the best it can get. I don't feel sorry for Verizon in the least, they have the infrastructure to handle a lot more then you think. I guarantee they have been showing profit gains every Q for the past 3 years with the huge expansion of smartphone growth.. they don't need to nickel and dime the hell out of us to give us unlimited data at a reasonable price. They simply choose to because the market is too stupid and will flock to them simply because they offer the best service. I pay them enough as it is for their "premium service" therefore they should offer me a "premium service" not an inferior one.

Nothing?

Verizon sucks...they will get the gs3 very late may be during holidays when the next nexus and other new round of high end devices release. Buy an international version and be on a GSM network and be happy
Edit: I have nothing aganist Verizon but in general all carries suck with their monopoly and control over phone manufactures.
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Well I think they suck too for this and for them kicking and screeming trying to get out of replacing a BAD phone. I had too call them 10+ times just to get them to send me a "new" one and then the POS still did not work right intill they pushed an update. Even now it still loses 4G, but at lest I don't get 600kbs any more from 4G. There 3G= sprint and it sucks. H+ is not allways the best, but over all better for every thing - 1080p/720p video. ( Verizon's LTE falling back to 3G loading a web page laying on a table or upload hang and so on.)
I have both AT&T and Verizon unlimited data plan's and I would take AT&T any day of the week for data. voice, ok verizon you win becuase I can still make a call in the sticks if your pre-loaded app's did not kill the battery runing in the back or lock the screen up.
Verizon I hope you eat some cow, becuase the one line I have with you will be killed and odds are I will never come back.
I too think all carries suck with there price fixing and control, but verizon took 1st place on my most dis liked co list. (That I have had to deal with that is. Acer was #1, but at lest geting them to fix there crap DID NOT TAKE 10+ CALLS.)

yeah.. my plan has been without unlimited data plan because they got rid of the plan for whoever tries to add the data plan. I think they are discontinuing it even for the existing customers. Already expected that

They can have my unlimited data when they pry it from my cold, contract ending hands. I just blew my upgrade on a Nexus two weeks ago, coming from a Thunderbolt. Planning on ordering the S3 with an upgrade from another line. Once they start forcing people onto shared plans, I'll do whatever it takes to keep what I have. I use around 40 gigs a month lol
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I was going to do the same, but they have really limited LTE this month. the best speed I can get is 10mbs and that's at 1am! If your on the "list" and now I am on the list for using 4GB, I can only get .5mbs down load. yea for me

4ktvs said:
I was going to do the same, but they have really limited LTE this month. the best speed I can get is 10mbs and that's at 1am! If your on the "list" and now I am on the list for using 4GB, I can only get .5mbs down load. yea for me
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Very strange. I used 46 gigs last month and between 30-80 GB/month CONSISTENTLY since LTE came to my area around this time last year. No throttling, no warning, nothing. I get between 11 Mbps and 24 Mbps down depending on where I am and the time of day.
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ive pre ordered and up'd my contract an additional 2 years, WITH unlimited data, so for two years i wont be loosing it and I will have sgs3..... have i missed the OP's point?

Only applies if you're updating from G3 phones!
4ktvs said:
They are going to KILL YOUR unlimited data like this: http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/16/verizon-cfo-says-grandfathered-unlimited-plans-on-the-way-out/
I think If I get this phone now it will be unlocked on AT&T.
Just wanted to give the 2 gig news.
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This has probably been pointed out, but it ONLY applies if you're updating from a non-G4/LTE phone! I updated mine, the new one (which VerizonWireless now says "they made a mistake" and it won't be delivered for a month" - after collection several billion dollars to float for a month having originally stated it would ship on Wednesday for Thursday delivery ) still has unlimited data. I came "up" from a Moto Bionic, so I already had an unlimited G4/LTE data plan grandfathered from my Droid Incredible G3 plan when they still let you upgrade to G4 from G3 and keep unlimited data.
BOTTOM LINE: IF YOU HAD UNLIMITED DATA ON AN LTE PHONE, YOU STILL WILL HAVE UNLIMITED DATA!

^^I agree and I do not think that the "grandfather killer" has come into effect yet.