hi, so ive been experimenting with transfer speeds to the SD-CARD with my nexus one.
so far i managed :
2mb/sec using the stock USB cable, with eclair, same with froyo stock kernel.
via WiFi tether and connecting a laptop to it, transfering files via FTP server on the android device
1.5-2mb/sec on froyo tethering
using the wifi tether app on eclair, around 600kb/s (fail? or maybe some cyanogen issues)
i recently upgraded to a CLASS6 transcend 16gb sdcard
yet the results are the same.
i tried a few SD-CARD testing apps, all results were around 2mb/s
is this some sort of hardware/software limitation?
did anyone get passed 2mb/s?
in theory my card should reach 6mb/sec write speeds.
so im hoping we can share our experiances.. and maybe come to some conclusion on whats going on, and finally put these issues to rest.
So you're trying to do what? You're on cellular, wifi, tethered, SD card speeds.....
I don't get the point.
If you're wanting to benchmark your SD card, maybe this program? I haven't tried it yet, just finally thought about searching. http://www.cyrket.com/p/android/performance.test/
You say "mb" which isn't correct for anything (unless you really mean "millabit"). Do you mean megaBIT (Mb) or megaBYTE (MB) / sec ?
I just ran several tests from this Vista PC using ADB Push to the SD card (a 16GB Class 6), and I see 9-13 megabit/second or 1.1 - 1.3 megabyte/second rates, at file sizes from 10 to 25 MB.
This is a Vista work PC, running around 40 applications, Symantec AV and Firewall and all manner of other crap. If I think about it, I'll pound out a test from a real computer later.
lol Why are you people giving him such a hard time ?
He wants to figure out the fastest transfer speeds. Who gives a crap about Mb Mb MB or benchmarking his SD.
N1 transfer speeds are slow regardless of the SD card. Im not sure why.
I would like to know if file transfers over USB , or Wifi result in faster transfers.
I think the OP is wanting to do the same thing.
Using the Websharing or FTP via Efile sometimes gave me better results than USB.
lol yea be gentle guys. But yea I remember reading that it's always gonna be slower using USB and Phone, it's better to take your card out and use a reader. It's usually at least 2 times faster when I take my SD out and use a reader
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628508
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=691173
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=656908
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669511
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=662296
Those are just a few of many more, I am sure.
But none of the the existing Nexus One SD card threads are worded like " Nexus one maximum transfer speed (using all methods)", so lets just add this one to the pile please.
SabrWolf said:
hi, so ive been experimenting with transfer speeds to the SD-CARD with my nexus one.
so far i managed :
2mb/sec using the stock USB cable, with eclair, same with froyo stock kernel.
via WiFi tether and connecting a laptop to it, transfering files via FTP server on the android device
1.5-2mb/sec on froyo tethering
using the wifi tether app on eclair, around 600kb/s (fail? or maybe some cyanogen issues)
i recently upgraded to a CLASS6 transcend 16gb sdcard
yet the results are the same.
i tried a few SD-CARD testing apps, all results were around 2mb/s
is this some sort of hardware/software limitation?
did anyone get passed 2mb/s?
in theory my card should reach 6mb/sec write speeds.
so im hoping we can share our experiances.. and maybe come to some conclusion on whats going on, and finally put these issues to rest.
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Thanks for the post, regardless of the patronizing of others... I've wondered the same thing as I've only gotten 2mb/sec going through the USB mount in android. I thought something was wrong with my computer so I've tried both pc and mac with the same speeds. I thought it was my memory card so I plugged it directly into a card reader and got 4x's the speed...
My main reason for wanting this to be fixed or acknowledged is for sync'ing music through programs like Salling Media Sync. It seems to me a wifi alternative would be faster even at 802.11g if it's related to the USB interface... let me know what you find I'm curious...
My wife's transfer speed was 3.6 on the stock SD card...
I have a class 6 and speed is under 2
I try to switch cards later and see if my class 6 goes faster on her N1
I too have never seen faster than 2mbish, even when i upgraded from stock to a class 2 8gb, and then to a class 6 16GB
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Thanks for Looking, really desperate.
I can’t root this ^#%@ G1. Basically I can not get nesscarry rooting files flashed on my G1. I guess the short question is why does my G1 not accept files from my win7 box. Not through the preferred SD card method but, not through wifi, Bluetooth, ADB. Droid explorer, etc, etc. I’ve tried everything , every method …nill.
BUT, otherwise the phone works fine. Internet, phone, G1 crapware, etc. You can assume I’ve tried every thing I can find on the web. But if you want to read details go please do
BACKROUND:
After many, many attempts with every recipe and every set of ROMs around, I ‘ve narrowed it down to it not liking the taste of my SD cards…most of the time, For some reason I can do the initial rc29 downgrade but not much more.
1) Connecting with USB cable to PC. android shows up in “devices and printers” and so does its “removable disk (after mounted from phone). However, double clicking, rt click trying to for mat it just gives errors
2) Putting in SD card while up and running returns “unrecognizable media”
3) Now, I can format SD (yes fat 32) on the PC card reader, add files, whatever, put card in phone and turn it on , at least I don’t get an error, but I get no better acces to card.
I was just about to physically take the phone apart and see if there was some flotsam, corrosion, a piese of bacon making the sd connection physically corrupting the physical conectoion. THAN I remembered blue toothe behaves the same way and WI FII won’t connect at all. Seem that indicates something systremic…Radio??
Help Please?!?!
PK
BTW:
ATEMPS AT REMIDIATION:
5 different New SD cards three, 4 gig, one 6 gig, one 2 gig different meg cards
SD reformats both quick and full adnaseum
4 different USB cords including brand new top of the line.
Re set to RC29 time and time again (remarkably it is apparently reading the flash drive
Hey Guys,
I've been having a TON of problems with my storage card lately. I was using doubletwist to sync music when the problems first happened. Basically the storage card flipped out, it wouldnt allow any access either through the computer or on the phone. So i turned off the phone popped the Storage Card out and then back in. When I plugged my HD2 back into the computer i discovered that all my files on the storage card had been deleted.
I called t-mobile customer care and they told me to call the htc accessories line to get a new one. Did that and the lady says theres nothing they can do as all the cards are back ordered.
I'm worried that its going to happen again, and on top of all this my 16 GB Storage card is now 971 MB, i was adding my applications when it said the card was full so i checked and thats what the computers giving me.
I figured that maybe if i formatted the card it would work but i cant find that option anywhere when i right click on the card when plugged into the computer.
So basically all i have now is a 971 MB Sd card with a few applications on it instead of the 16 GB preloaded SD card that held about 200 pictures taken with the phones camera(that are now gone along with Transformers and everything else that was on the phone)
Sorry for the long rant guys but im really frustrated...
Any Help?
Have you connected the phone to the PC in 'disk drive' mode? If not, then do that to 1) be absolutely sure you can't see/recover any of the files, and then 2) to format it (it has to be connected this way for that option to be available)
I'm not an expert on here (more of a "user" than a "maker") but I have had my share of SD card problems.
If you are using the class 2 card that came with your phone, order a class 4 or class 6. The class 2's are known to cause performance problems for the HD2. When I upgraded to my class 6, I noticed the difference right away on graphics-heavy apps that use the SD card in realtime (i.e. not just to store profiles).
You need to decide if you simply want to get your SD card back or try and save data on it first. If you just want to format it and start over, try these:
Try first using the sd formatter in your HD2, in the "Tools" folder.
If you have a card reader or a card slot in your Windows PC, try inserting the card (or, as sirphunkee said, mount your HD2 as "disk drive" and not as active sync) and go to control panel > administrative tools > computer management > Disk Management and see if Windows can read your card. If it can, you should be able to right click on the drive and select "format". You could also try assigning it a new drive letter. Sometimes it seems to kick start the Drive Management services into accessing your card with a proper mount.
Download SD Formatter from Panasonic. Sometimes when windows can't do it, this program can.
If you have an uBuntu OS installed, sometimes using gParted is also effective.
I have also seen threads on here about downloading the default factory files that should already be on the card, with links...
Hope this helps. But bottom line you should definitely NOT wait for another crappy class 2 card from TMo/HTC and go get a class 6 (you can find them easily enough online for about $50).
sirphunkee said:
Have you connected the phone to the PC in 'disk drive' mode? If not, then do that to 1) be absolutely sure you can't see/recover any of the files, and then 2) to format it (it has to be connected this way for that option to be available)
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So instead of using active sync to connect use disk drive mode. Got it, but once i do that if there were files to recover i would see them correct?
googlesax said:
So instead of using active sync to connect use disk drive mode. Got it, but once i do that if there were files to recover i would see them correct?
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Yes, as long as you're looking at the card's contents via file explorer on the pc, not the phone...the one one the phone won't be able to see the card at all when it's connected that way.
Basically, when you connect in disk drive mode, the pc handles the card just like a regular external USB hard drive.
You'll probably be able to format and use it again now that you're connecting it that way, but if it still acts up then go through any and all of mfrey's steps above, including just upgrading to a higher-class card if possible. The stock cards that come with the HD2 seem to be somewhat inconsistent in quality and potentially unreliable, and as he said the speed difference of a faster card can definitely be noticible in every day use.
i connected the phone via disk drive mode as suggested but i had the same results after connecting multiple times so i decided to format the card through the phone as mfrey suggested. After doing so the card still reads as a total of 971 MB both on the phone when checked under settings and on the computer.
Im going to try going to t-mobile to see what they say about my problem because i dont see how this could happen, ive been using this sd card for about three months and up til a few days ago it worked perfectly
Wish me luck guys
googlesax said:
i connected the phone via disk drive mode as suggested but i had the same results after connecting multiple times so i decided to format the card through the phone as mfrey suggested. After doing so the card still reads as a total of 971 MB both on the phone when checked under settings and on the computer.
Im going to try going to t-mobile to see what they say about my problem because i dont see how this could happen, ive been using this sd card for about three months and up til a few days ago it worked perfectly
Wish me luck guys
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Were you able to see the drive in Drive Management in Administrative Tools? If so, when you right-clicked it, was there an option to delete partition? Did you try SD Formatter (it's free)?
If it's the factory class 2 that came with your phone, it could be bricked...
Hi guys, anyone else experiencing really slow downloads through the market? I'm talking 10-20kbs which is really annoying when I'm setting up a new rom. The issue seems to be rom independent and what I don't understand is why the market is so slow when my actual data connection is fine. I've ran speedtest and I'm getting 10Mbs connection speeds (over wifi) so it seems strange for the market to have such issues.
Yup, been having that on every rom as well. A temp fix I know is to unmount SD card before starting the download, that should give you good speed again. Not too practical for every update, but a huge timesaver after a fresh install!
This is a ROM issue not the markets slow server ?
It's definitely a problem on our side yes, the market servers are doing just fine.
Kezzainc said:
This is a ROM issue not the markets slow server ?
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defiantly an issue with the ROM's, on my friends android phone everything on the market downloads in seconds.
StephanV said:
Yup, been having that on every rom as well. A temp fix I know is to unmount SD card before starting the download, that should give you good speed again. Not too practical for every update, but a huge timesaver after a fresh install!
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I agree with this...i also realized that if unmounting SD solve my problem, maybe the sd is the problem...so I treat it out with another sd card...turn out my sd card was going bad...so if unmount SD helps, try another card...good luck
NexusHD2-FRG83D V1.7
use this build.
[20.11.2010][NexusHD2-FRG83D V1.7 PPP+RMNET] (hastarin r8.2 with G-Sensor Fix)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793924
i am having downloads speed at 1.5M-2M from market.
i tried many other builds, but this one is a rocket with market downloads.
Enjoy
I am using the same building as mentioned by boldman78 and what he said is 100% true.
boldman78 said:
use this build.
[20.11.2010][NexusHD2-FRG83D V1.7 PPP+RMNET] (hastarin r8.2 with G-Sensor Fix)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=793924
i am having downloads speed at 1.5M-2M from market.
i tried many other builds, but this one is a rocket with market downloads.
Enjoy
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Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
I'll give it a go and see if it's the case, if it is we need to identify what's causing the problem in other builds.
I have the same issue on my hd2 android.
my download speed is about 5-40 kbps...
so what is the difference in this build? maybe the cooker can share it to make all builds perfect
azzzz said:
I agree with this...i also realized that if unmounting SD solve my problem, maybe the sd is the problem...so I treat it out with another sd card...turn out my sd card was going bad...so if unmount SD helps, try another card...good luck
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You do realize, don't you, that when you use the "unmount SD card" option in Android, it doesn't actually unmount the SD card?
I've tried that build but I'm seeing no change in market download speeds, I have noticed that wifi speeds are much slower than over 3G though, I'll try this on my current build (MDJ FroYo HD v.4.0) to see if it's a wifi only issue.
johncmolyneux said:
You do realize, don't you, that when you use the "unmount SD card" option in Android, it doesn't actually unmount the SD card?
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Of course I do...but if it helps, it helps...lol
@tung...did you try the unmounting SD method to see if it'll help...
Well, this problem that you guys are experiencing is all because of the SD card. I have tested two cards using the same build, one is the original SanDisk 16gb class 2 and one is the new Samsung 16gb class 2. The Sandisk download app super fast and the Samsung one only get 10-20kb/s. Even the same class, the two card have different write speed. So it is all because of the SD card. Seems like SanDisk would work best.
To explain the "unmount thing", because android systems sync with the SD card all the time and that take up a lot of write speed. If your card does not have a good write speed it would take longer. By "un-mounting" the SD card, you tell it to stop syncing and the speed is much improve. That's all. Warning: if you turn of the phone when unmount, you will experience data loss or corruption.
great way to put things in perspective...that's why I advice OP to try a new SD before blaming it on the BUILD...
ktran1588 said:
Well, this problem that you guys are experiencing is all because of the SD card. I have tested two cards using the same build, one is the original SanDisk 16gb class 2 and one is the new Samsung 16gb class 2. The Sandisk download app super fast and the Samsung one only get 10-20kb/s. Even the same class, the two card have different write speed. So it is all because of the SD card. Seems like SanDisk would work best.
To explain the "unmount thing", because android systems sync with the SD card all the time and that take up a lot of write speed. If your card does not have a good write speed it would take longer. By "un-mounting" the SD card, you tell it to stop syncing and the speed is much improve. That's all. Warning: if you turn of the phone when unmount, you will experience data loss or corruption.
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i use the same card for all builds that i test and still nexusv1.7 is fastest on market downloads.
I think I can verify the SD card theory. My girlfriend and I both have hd2's running android (same build, rom, radio, hspl). The only thing different about our phones is that I'm running the original sandisk 16gb class 2 and she is running a 4gb PNY class 4 SD card.
Her market downloads, strangely enough, are incredibly slower than mine on the class 2. I had always wondered about that since she had a class 4...but I guess it does make sense. Although the payoff for her is her android boot time is incredibly fast.
-Devastator
With SD unmounted my market also is a little bit faster but still too slow.
(MDJ FROYO HD 4.0 and WLAN).
Any other solution?!
Yeah really very slow
Has anyone else been experiencing this? It takes an hour for my to transfer 1 GB of data. The same folder took only a few minutes to transfer between my Droid and X2.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong, or maybe it's a hardware problem?
16GB TF/Prime 1.4
Same problem here (Prime 1.4).
Does someone know how to have a faster usb connection (1h for 2Gb)
Thxxx
Stdu
I just did a quick transfer speed test by copying a 286MB file
Copying to the internal storage took 25 seconds (transfer rate : 11.4MBps)
Copying to a class 2 , 8GB microSD card took 45 seconds (transfer rate : 6.35MBps)
At those speeds a 1Gig should not take much longer than 1min 30sec to the internal memory and 2min 41sec to a Class 2 micro SD card (which is like the slowest speed you can expect from a micro SD card these days), unless you are moving thousands of tiny files, in which case it will take longer, but even then I doubt it should take 1hr.
P.S: 16GB TF running stock 3.1, connected to a Windows 7 32bit laptop
was your dock battery low when you tried to do this? could explain why it took a while.
Or don't use the dock at all? I never tried transferring anything while docked, didn't seem like it would've worked, but I guess it does work.
I still don't have my dock :-(
I tried to remove AVG and made a reset but still same problem.
I will try tomorrow to install the Prime 1.5 maybe this will help
Thx
Or you can transfer via wifi. Lightning fast =)
SwiftLegend said:
Has anyone else been experiencing this? It takes an hour for my to transfer 1 GB of data. The same folder took only a few minutes to transfer between my Droid and X2.
Maybe I'm doing something wrong, or maybe it's a hardware problem?
16GB TF/Prime 1.4
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Perhaps, if the folder had video files, you selected the option to transcode the video.
makec3rt said:
Or you can transfer via wifi. Lightning fast =)
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I only get 750KBps when copying files over wi-fi using ES File explorer; and I don't think you can expect anything above 1.0~2MBps when transferring from one wireless device to another wireless device on a wireless G network. That is still more than 10x slower than USB. What method are you using ??
Are you copying only one single big file or many smaller files..the speed normally drops significantly when copying huge amount of smaller files..
either way, one hour for 1Gb seems absurdly long....have you tried the stock rom?
Hi,
since i have bought milestone 2 i have the similar problem... even now with the newest original rom
the downloading is interrupting almost every time, browser have never downloaded bigger file than approximate 20 mb and even opera mini doesnt work well with downloading
since i have got the fasterdownolader app it says me sometimes that the problem is system file read only (null)... or something like that, but i am downloading strictly on the sd card which is weird... so doesnt anybody know where could be the problem?
I have rooted rom with 1-click rooter
Sometimes it helps me to mount and umount sd card, but sometimes it doesnt.
The only app without downloading problems is dropbox
can i do something with the sd card to makes it work better? (for example)
I could be wrong but I believe it is more so to with with mobile internet in general being too unstable and some of the sources you download from don't work very well with it. This problem is most common with file sharing sites for myself, ones that don't support resuming downloads. Little bumps and resets in the connection (although you are not aware they happen) cause it to stall and then it simply wont resume. I've seen it happen on phones of friends etc, and even had it happen downloading over wireless hotspot on my laptop.
Some games with in app downloads will be very hard to download over my data connection and I only end up wasting nearly 1gb of my cap only to have 3 failed downloads halfway through, then it is seemless on wifi when I get home.
If you need a good download test side ... I always use the new release of ubuntu ... http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/11.10/release/
And if you want to make sure it is not your mobile internet connection ... did you have the same problem with WLAN and downloads?
Just some ideas ... maybe it helps!
Thank you both for help
Finally I have got the answer, my main problem is SD card bigger than 8 GB
Since i have the 16 gb' card I have problems with reading and writing data on it
Mount and Unmount card is my daily routine, because even MortPlayer has a problem to play a music sometimes
Have you read this post?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1025501
I have and it did solve my problem I forgot to note it here
but thank you very much, it is sometimes hard to be a muggle and to find a solution only by yourself
Even with newest gingerbread my new 16 gb's sd card freezes repeatedly...
but to replace the dll's did helped me (hopefully)
so here it goes
yuanjie.name/entry/milestone-2-mp3-crackling-playback-issue-solved
I changed files manually by the root explorer