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weird XDA neo camera problem for saving file in storage card

I'm facing a weird problem for O2 xda neo. while the picture files are saving in storage card, the picture distorted. Not only the pictures but also the video files. But when the files are saving in the main memory every thing is fine. At first I thought it was the camera problem. But after cheking I find that this problem occuers when I want to save the files in my kingston 1 gb sd memry card.
Can an body tell, what might be the problem? and whats the solution? i got hte neo only before 2 months ago. and now i'm having this problem. Is there any tweak can be done as a solution or do i need to change the card?
i'm uploading one picture so you can unederstand the problem.

Did you try another storage card instead?If you did so,does the problem still exist?
Cheers

Do you have the standard budget Kingston SD Card?
At best performance it can only offer
- Up to 5MB/sec. read rate
- Up to 1.5MB/sec. write rate
it is a very slow card, maybe it is too slow for video and photographic performance.
I don't know the minimum standards required, but as I use SAT NAV a lot, I thought it would be better in the long run spending a couple of extra pounds on a high speed card.
As such everything I run on the card, runs great.

NewSPV,
which SD write speeds to you actually get on XDA ?
I observe about 10x worse speeds on XDA than laptop...

kristox said:
NewSPV,
which SD write speeds to you actually get on XDA ?
I observe about 10x worse speeds on XDA than laptop...
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Hi
I don't know my actual speeds on the SPV, but I bought a card rated
- Up to 20MB/sec. read speed
- Up to 9MB/sec. write speed
I thought I would need a fast read speed in order for the SAT NAV to keep up with the car at high speeds.
As I said, I have no problems running anything on the card.

hello again,
one of my friend has XDA neo, I tried with his memory card and it was okey with the capturing picture. No prb. So I think it might be the prb with my card. I found that its not a SD card, rather its a miniSD of Kingston. Except for the pictures, all other operations are going fine. Yesterday I bought another 2GB SD card(this time no miniSD), and it works fine for the camera, saving the pictures.
Thanks for all yours reply, these help me to know the speed issue of cards.

prevent unloading storage card programs on Jasjar

All my programs are on storage card. I would like some programs frequently used to be always on, e.g. Pocket Informant. However, they keep closing. I cannot confirm when this happens, but probably after screen shut off or much later. Is there a way to keep these programs running?

manu407 said:
All my programs are on storage card. I would like some programs frequently used to be always on, e.g. Pocket Informant. However, they keep closing. I cannot confirm when this happens, but probably after screen shut off or much later. Is there a way to keep these programs running?
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It may have something to do with how long after awakening before the card is available to the operating system. The solution may be to have a fast card (133-150X). I went from a 1GB card which didn't say how fast it was (1X??!!) and which had this problem, to a 4GB 133X card which generally does NOT have this problem. It occurs occasionally, but generally, if I leave TotalCommander running, it's still running when I open the device and start it the next morning. Hope this helps. Cheers,

gibhenry, Thanks for reply. .At the moment I also use 1 GB card. Want to try 4 GB. Does 4 GB work on Jasjar. Precisely, which one do you use? I wonder, any how, what does the size and speed of card have to do with how long before awakening the card was accessed?

manu407 said:
gibhenry, Thanks for reply. .At the moment I also use 1 GB card. Want to try 4 GB. Does 4 GB work on Jasjar. Precisely, which one do you use? I wonder, any how, what does the size and speed of card have to do with how long before awakening the card was accessed?
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Well, I can tell you to just use a PLAIN SD card, not some of the advanced architectures, which will not work on the Universal. I got my 4GB card in conjunction with my purchase of iGuidance GPS software from buyGPSNow. It is a 133x card. I had purchased a 150X card that's something like SD-CF (but I'm not sure exactly what the designation was, so don't take that literally), and I determined that they will NOT work with FAT32 on either the PC or the PPC. So be sure you get a plain but FAST SD card for your Universal. Hope this helps. Cheers,

For those with phone freeze issues...

I've been watching, reading, and doing my own research on the subject.
Here is my conclusion. Curious to see if you run into the same:
1) There were a bad batch of 16gb class 2 micro sdhc cards that were replaced by T-Mobile.
2) The micro sdhc cards were CLASS 2.
3) On the original stock ROM had \storage card\application data\htc data stored on the card. As of the new ROM, that data is officially stored on the phone memory. I know this because I sync my sdhc card to my home PC using ViceVersa and haven't had a single file in that directory change since the ROM upgrade.
4) I've never had any freeze issues, but that's because I have a 16gb CLASS 6 sdhc card that moved everything to and don't have the speed/reliability issues that others may have experienced because of #1 and #2.
I have no idea what the data is that was being pushed to the card in the old ROM, but I believe that T-Mobile recognized issues with pushing data to a card where it may not get mounted quick enough on boot, has speed issues (class 2), as well as having a possible bad shipment of cards.
I also believe that depending on the above scenario, T-Mobile may have been blindly replacing "bad" cards as a fix when in reality, it was more of an issue with the speed of the card and/or possibly the card not getting mounted quick enough on system boot causing stability issues.
I would challenge anybody with the original ROM to pull their SD cards for 24-48 hours and I bet your freeze issues go away, unless you actually do have a bad SD card.
On that same note, that would explain why a custom ROM would fix the problem, because chef's weren't configuring their ROM's to cache any data to an SD card.
Bottom line, it wouldn't matter if you installed anything to the card or not. Because the original ROM was configured to write to the SD card if it found one, you would "potentially" have freeze issues with a bad or slow card, no matter what.
Sorry if this is redundant, but I've seen everybody making conclusions on bits and pieces of the information, but not with the entire picture I painted. Maybe I'm right, maybe I'm wrong. You decide.
=)

Update:
After finally deleting the \storage card\application data folder, the files did come back. Does anybody know what these are? I'd like to get those to point back to the phone memory personally. I don't like anything on the external card, other then what I say should be there.

Will an all run fastest on SD or internal memory?

It's not quite as daft as it sounds this. When I briefly had a S5 and was trying to speed the thing up I ran a tester app which showed my SD card was capable of faster data transfers than "internal SD." Now I don't know if the note 3 has the same sort of setup but would an app be slower on the external SD as you'd expect, or if there's an advantage to moving stuff to SD aside from making more room for stuff.

joebongo said:
It's not quite as daft as it sounds this. When I briefly had a S5 and was trying to speed the thing up I ran a tester app which showed my SD card was capable of faster data transfers than "internal SD." Now I don't know if the note 3 has the same sort of setup but would an app be slower on the external SD as you'd expect, or if there's an advantage to moving stuff to SD aside from making more room for stuff.
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It's generally faster on internal memory due to the lag of retrieval from external but not sure now with these new high speed cards. Would depend if the hardware on the Note 3 has the ability to utilise the actual speed of the sd card and the type of formatting the sd card has....

Google play music vs. SD card

Just killed second SD card in my S7 Edge and by 90% its caused by GPM while downloading my archive to phone. After fresh install I cached maps to sygic navigation, one more other app and saved around 4GB of data without any problems. Then I let GPM cache my playlist worth cca 5GB of music. After hour or so checked phone and found card disconnected. And it was dead, didnt work in phone nor pc anymore. So I exchanged it for another one (RMA) and did exactly the same with another. Unfortunatelly same situation, other apps downloaded data correctly, GPM killed card after hour or so of downloading.
Both cards were Kingston 64GB U3 fast cards.
Not sure if I want to try third time in row...

I've had bad experiences with kingston microsd cards - randomly failing or getting a lot of errors. I initially thought it was bad luck.. now I use Samsung and Sandisk ones and I haven't had any problems.
There must be a quality issue with the kingston ones. Have you tried a different brand? I'll try an old samsung card and see if it messes up with Google Music

I typically stick to SanDisk and have about 10GB of music from GPM on my SD card at any given time. Never had any issues through various ROM installs and wipes.

Will take card to RMA (again) and get different brand, probably SanDisk. Hope it will be better luck, because not sure how many cards I can succesfully RMA befor they get some suspicion in shop

hboos said:
I've had bad experiences with kingston microsd cards - randomly failing or getting a lot of errors. I initially thought it was bad luck.. now I use Samsung and Sandisk ones and I haven't had any problems.
There must be a quality issue with the kingston ones. Have you tried a different brand? I'll try an old samsung card and see if it messes up with Google Music
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same with me, i had really bad experiences with kingston microsd cards, im using sandisk for about 2.5 years now without any issues

Are you enabling encryption on the SD card?
I had that setup on my Lexar 1000x to begin with and after a few days ended up with a corrupted filesystem in my GS7E.
I reformatted the card using Windblows, reinstalled it and reformatted it with the GS7E, but with encryption disabled, and performance has been more consistent (read and write).
I'm just wondering if SD card encryption could be mis-behaved.

C0derbear said:
Are you enabling encryption on the SD card?
I had that setup on my Lexar 1000x to begin with and after a few days ended up with a corrupted filesystem in my GS7E.
I reformatted the card using Windblows, reinstalled it and reformatted it with the GS7E, but with encryption disabled, and performance has been more consistent (read and write).
I'm just wondering if SD card encryption could be mis-behaved.
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No,used plain filesystem and card,also different result is that card is dead now. Cant format it in phone (it cant see it) nor in computer...

Wlk said:
No,used plain filesystem and card,also different result is that card is dead now. Cant format it in phone (it cant see it) nor in computer...
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"blecch"

C0derbear said:
Are you enabling encryption on the SD card?
I had that setup on my Lexar 1000x to begin with and after a few days ended up with a corrupted filesystem in my GS7E.
I reformatted the card using Windblows, reinstalled it and reformatted it with the GS7E, but with encryption disabled, and performance has been more consistent (read and write).
I'm just wondering if SD card encryption could be mis-behaved.
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ooh that's worrying.. i decided to try out lexar and got the 128gb 1000x card.. should be coming tomorrow. yikes.