I'm noticing an issue as I try many of the ROMs out there. (Great job, everyone, BTW)
When I use SetCPU on most ROMs the speeds tend to vary greatly. But it seems that I only found one ROM which the speeds work right for my phone, which is Spencer Moore's Aloysious series. When I try other ROMs, they're fine until I OC them.
I'm using SetCPU and some very modest profiles. Not trying to push my luck. Any advice on better OC methods that won't lock me up so I can try more ROMs? Or could I be doing something very wrong?
Thanks in advance, and again, great work Devs! You're all very much appreciated.
chaoss13 said:
I'm noticing an issue as I try many of the ROMs out there. (Great job, everyone, BTW)
When I use SetCPU on most ROMs the speeds tend to vary greatly. But it seems that I only found one ROM which the speeds work right for my phone, which is Spencer Moore's Aloysious series. When I try other ROMs, they're fine until I OC them.
I'm using SetCPU and some very modest profiles. Not trying to push my luck. Any advice on better OC methods that won't lock me up so I can try more ROMs? Or could I be doing something very wrong?
Thanks in advance, and again, great work Devs! You're all very much appreciated.
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What do you have the speed set to?
i've seen some people say they can't run 768 but run fine at 787 so its not always a lower is better issue. You got to just play around with them to see what works best with your phone.
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I've been trying many kernels just to see how well it would perform, but only 1.22ghz has worked on my phone. Just curious if it's only stable on certain phones or certain Kernels that are more stable than others. Thanks for the info.
It's only stable on certain phones, but I've been able to run it for 10 hours on kingklicks #9 kernel before it crashed
That's what I figured. What were your linpack results with it at 1.26? Is it worth the extra .04 ghz? I'm assuming no and although I don't really care because I'm happy with the performance of the device I was just curious as to whether it was my device or the software.
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I've been trying many kernels just to see how well it would perform, but only 1.22ghz has worked on my phone. Just curious if it's only stable on certain phones or certain Kernels that are more stable than others. Thanks for the info.
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Correct, all the processors on the Evo are not equal in terms of over clocking. Its just the way they are manufactured. Some can hit 1.26, some can only hit 1.21 or x.xx. Depends on how lucky you get by how well the processor fits.
On my phone i can only overclock to 1.19. I have tried several different ROM and kernel combinations. The best i can do. Linpack is in the high 30's if i remember correctly. Been running fresh with the new HTC kernel lately.
I can do 1.22 on certain kernels . Rest freezes and have to go to 1.19
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I've been looking for an app or program that can actually overclock my device. I see a lot for druid x, but not really anything for the fascinate. Thanks in advance and sorry if my question seems novice
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You need a kernel that supports overclocking. In all honesty, overclocking is useless as the phone spends a majority of it's time a clock speeds <800MHz. All overclocking does is introduce potential problems when the phone reaches the speeds >1000MHz.
SetCPU. You can either by the donate version from the market or get it free here at XDA. Support our devs!
Also, to overclock, you need an overclockable kernel. Keep in mind that not all phones are made equal, as some phones overclock well, where some don't.
Thanks for the advice, I'll check set cpu and see if I notice an improvement, but it makes sense that it wouldn't make a terrible difference being as the phone runs mostly under 800. Thanks again!
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Hi, sorry about this lame excuse for OP but apparently I need 10 posts before I post anything on the related forums
Anyway, I'll use this and ask a couple of questions anyway.
I've been using Android on my HD2 since I bought it, first on SD and lately on NAND, in the last flashes my phone appears more sluggish.
Used Desire L from dandiest and while it gets great Quadrant scores (above 2000) it's freaking slow, some Ginger builds I get low scores and phone works faster and smoother, tho I hate it's keyboard.
I've done the task29, that apparently formats the phone, and everything. Radio 2.15, Malgr 1.3
Atm using maesusbuild and still sluggish.
is there anybody out there?
Most Android ROMs for the HD2 have over clocking built into the ROM. Some ROM chefs just provide the overclocking for you and let you decide if you want to overclock. Some ROm chefs have it overclocked already. You have to check to see Wichita is the case with each ROm usually. If the ROM you have sluggish behavior with is not overclockedcalready try slightly overclocking and see if it helps.
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Most Android ROMs for the HD2 have over clocking built into the ROM. Some ROM chefs just provide the overclocking for you and let you decide if you want to overclock. Some ROm chefs have it overclocked already. You have to check to see Wichita is the case with each ROm usually. If the ROM you have sluggish behavior with is not overclockedcalready try slightly overclocking and see if it helps.
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if by overclocking you mean messing with SetCpu and increase it's frequency, yep that is weird, for instance, with dandiest Rom I can get the cpu up to 1.5ghz and get 2500 score on quadrant, but playing with it just feels sluggish, on the other hand some ginger roms with 1600 score appear faster.
I know it's weird, maybe an app process killer helps?
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Yes I am talking about SETCPU when I say overclocking. To be honest I have never messed with any testing software to get quadrant scores and the such. But I have read several threads where members get into heated descussions on the reliability of quadrant scores cause as you well know you can get lower quadrant scores than other devices or ROMs but still experience faster and smoother operations than the devices or ROMs with higher quadrant scores. You see as we all know the processor(CPU) is what actually responsible for the speed and smoothness of the operation of the device at its core. But it also depends on how the sofware intractable with the CPU as to the smoothness of operation as well. There for you will get some ROMs that are smooth and fast and some ROMs that are not as smooth and fast. With Android it also has alot Toronto with the kernel too, sometimes changing or modifying the kernel can help with performance. Please don't ask me about how to do this with the kernel though as I am still learning myself. Also yes a good task killer can help some.
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well just to point out. Quadrant is nothing more than a trophy wife. It's only there to show off what may not exist. If it runs smooth, then use it.
Also desire hd and z builds, you can't expect them to run smooth like a gingerbread build, or desire build, it's just like that.
Edit: You can just install another keyboard if you like. A keyboard similar to HTC's own is HTC IME mod. Search it up and you'll find it.
hi again..
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well just to point out. Quadrant is nothing more than a trophy wife. It's only there to show off what may not exist. If it runs smooth, then use it.
Also desire hd and z builds, you can't expect them to run smooth like a gingerbread build, or desire build, it's just like that.
Edit: You can just install another keyboard if you like. A keyboard similar to HTC's own is HTC IME mod. Search it up and you'll find it.
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I may try a ginger build and a different keyboard.
Now I'm having a problem, bought a 16gb adata card and last night started getting some errors, took it out and ran h2testw and it worked ok, can it be the rom?
thx for the tip
if I install with CWM can I change the keyboard inside the zip?
Iunno, i'm not familiar with building roms and such. Anyways it doesn't hurt to just install the keyboard after the rom is booted.
For the sd card, try format it will panasonic formatter, full format btw.
Hello all!
Just upgraded my wife from the MyTouch 3G Slide to the G2 as she has to have a keyboard and we were on our 5th replacement Slide. So, as she is not the geek that I am, she will not be constantly flashing new ROMs and such. However, I am going to at least install the latest CM and I am looking for kernel suggestions. I already have root, s-off, new hboot, and all that, I'm just waiting for CM7 to finish downloading.
I started using Android with the G1 and constantly updating Radios, as well as ROMs and I currently use a Samsung Vibrant running a TeamWhiskey ROM. It's stable as anything, I like the theme, and CM7 still has some broken stuff on the Vibrant. I'm glad to see that Eugene recently picked up a G2 as he made some bad ass kernels and ROMs for the Vibrant.
So, let's here those kernel recommendations and why you recommend them.
Thanks!
Well am currently using mexdroidmod and their kernel is pretty awesome because its fast and stable. My best advice is to test the diffrent kernel and read through the tread, see what people say about it. All the kernels I have tried are all awesome so you should try them
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pershoot's kernel. great batt life and OCing
Umaro's kernel has been rock solid for me and has tons of features as well. You can OC all the way to 1.9 Ghz if you so please and it has smartass.
well considering your wife isn't much of a techie.. i say you should go with pershoots kernel because he's always releasing updates and i've never had a problem with any of them. the battery life is excellent if you use the right radio (.17 and .30 have been good to me), but you need to experiment with this though. the phone runs beautifully, just make sure you use superwipe+ to format/wipe so you don't end up with gps issues like many people have had, good luck!
I've run umaro, eugene, pershoot, flippy, pyro, etc etc... aaand I've decided that the provided kernel is pretty much good to go. yeah, there are some little trinkety things with a few of the above kernels that the standard CM7 kernel doesn't support... but honestly, they're worthless to a user who just wants to turn the phone on and have it work.
set her up with the stock kernel @ 245-1017 (I haven't found a reason yet to ditch the ondemand governor, it seems to work best with CM7) and a vanilla gingerbread launcher and she'll be blown away.. that's my $.02
Like said above, CM kernel is great. I've tried most or even all available kernels for CM and finaly decided to stick with original one. It's stable and supports OC (up to 1.5GHz) "out of box", so really, I see no single reason to use the other ones.
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Like said above, CM kernel is great. I've tried most or even all available kernels for CM and finaly decided to stick with original one. It's stable and supports OC (up to 1.5GHz) "out of box", so really, I see no single reason to use the other ones.
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I'm also thinking about changing the kernal, but only for smartass. Does smartass offer that much of an increase on battery life or anything else? Also, when you OC, do you use SetCPU or just CyanogenMod Settings?
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I'm also thinking about changing the kernal, but only for smartass. Does smartass offer that much of an increase on battery life or anything else? Also, when you OC, do you use SetCPU or just CyanogenMod Settings?
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not at all pooping on any of the guys who swear by smartass/other governors, but the change in battery life is almost unnoticable for me.. the change in performance however can be pretty apparent.
here's my problem with "battery saving" governors:
in order to save battery, these governors are supposed to be more intelligent about which frequencies they select once a task is called... well, that's all well and dandy, but the problem is that the majority of battery-hogging apps (ie streaming music/video, gaming, browsing for a long time, being on the phone, etc) are still going to be battery hogs with or without a fancy governor. the governor isn't capable of making an app that needs a lot of processing power run well at a lower frequency, it can only try to be more selective about which frequencies it uses in order to attempt to save battery life.
additionally, most people use their phones like this: phone is idle (ie screen off), and a call arrives. call ends, phone is back to idle. texting a few people, back to idle. playing a game for 15 minutes, back to idle.
is it really logical to assume that these short bursts of activity are going to benefit at all from a fancy shmancy governor? I doubt it.
I still swear by ondemand or interactive (both work well for me) thru built-in settings if possible (ie cyanogen performance settings). second choice would be setcpu with no profiles (unless you're overclocking heavily, then you should at least have a temp warning profile). at this point, screen-off profiles don't do a damn bit of good, because pretty much every kernel we have for the vision is going to scale down during inactivity.
I have tried a multitude of solutions to try and correct this. Everything from flashing upwards of 7 different roms to messing with CPU governors to trying V4A. No matter what I do, I get stutters when I play music for more than a few minutes on a 7.x.x rom.
Is this a common issue and is there any solution?
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I have tried a multitude of solutions to try and correct this. Everything from flashing upwards of 7 different roms to messing with CPU governors to trying V4A. No matter what I do, I get stutters when I play music for more than a few minutes on a 7.x.x rom.
Is this a common issue and is there any solution?
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The only way I've improved this is by increasing the minimum clock speed for the CPU. It isn't perfect but has certainly improved it.
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The only way I've improved this is by increasing the minimum clock speed for the CPU. It isn't perfect but has certainly improved it.
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Hey! You're the guy who answered me on Reddit as well! Anyway, I tried this and I got mixed results, thanks for the tip though.
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Hey! You're the guy who answered me on Reddit as well! Anyway, I tried this and I got mixed results, thanks for the tip though.
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Yeah it isn't perfect, the SD808 just sucks and we're gonna just have to deal with it unless we get another phone lol