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I'm sure one of the first additions to a rooted EVO is the wifi tether option...
What are some cool unique things the community has done to your very on EVO. Changed the carrier string from Sprint to your initials...?
dlbevo said:
I'm sure one of the first additions to a rooted EVO is the wifi tether option...
What are some cool unique things the community has done to your very on EVO. Changed the carrier string from Sprint to your initials...?
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Custom kernels, which allow you to overclock the Evo to 1.2 Ghz, new boot screens, new themes, and new ROM's with better performance, speed upgrades, and longer battery life.
i have heard quite a bit of buz about that overclock. im eager to see what are the long time effects of that on the CPU. Can it handle several months of being overclocked...not to mention the increased heat-output?
dlbevo said:
i have heard quite a bit of buz about that overclock. im eager to see what are the long time effects of that on the CPU. Can it handle several months of being overclocked...not to mention the increased heat-output?
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I don't understand the point, other than for bragging rights. 200MHz isn't really enough to make a noticeable difference, once you're in the GHz range!
For me, I rooted for freedom and control over my device. Things like removing all the bloatware to free up space for real applications! Oh, and the Decepticon boot animation!
20% faster is substantial. More importantly to me, you can underclock your device at idol, and overclock when the processor is maxed out. Try watching a move at full resolution and tell me you don't need more speed. I hope that gets better with Froyo.
I added a reset button widget that only works with root.
-Roger
Hey all, I bought a Wildfire for my girlfriend this morning, I should be receiving it in the next couple of days. I had dropped a post in the WildPuzzleROM thread as I am liking the look of it, however I got no reply. So it seems I'll have to clutter the place up with another thread. Here is my original post:
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Hey folks, I am considering getting a Wildfire for the girlfriend, she's sick of her pathetic Samsung something or other. This ROM is just what I am looking for, close to stock Sense with a decent kernel. However I was a little concerned about the CPU and it's lack of power, so with that in mind I have a couple of questions regarding it.
Is the CPU underclocked when used with the stock kernel, and how does it fair with the 768mhz overclock? How does it affect batterylife as well? I get a good day out of my OC'd Desire, I don't want to leave her short of juice.
I really like the look of the phone, I'm sure she'd love it, but I don't want her with an underpowered device (Not that she'd care, but it's just another device for me to tinker with. ) so I figured I'd as you fine lot first and see if it was a little firecracker when rooted with Froyo.
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So as you can see I am curious about the battery life when using a 50% overclock, and wether or not the CPU is underclocked by default with the stock kernel. I don't want to burn out the her CPU just so she can get a few more smooth frame rates.
Any light you guys can shed on my questions would be greatly appreciated.
The overclock is on demand , i get about 12 - 18 hours with it set at 254 mhz - 768 mhz
Hope this helps
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The CPU on the stock rom is ok. If u want something faster, look at the htc legend (wildfire has no gpu either)
Ok I aint joking but seriously what is the point of overclocking a Desire z/G2. Unless I am running on a slow phone I don't see the point. Stock speed never lags and i haven't seen any difference between 1.5 ghz vs 800mhz.
The only time when 1.5ghz clock speed is useful is when i running quadrant and rubbing its scores infront of my friends face.
There is any areas where you can actually see the performance difference?
bluntly, if you dont see the point of it then you don't need it.
For others, sometimes you run alot of stuff in the background and still want to be able to have your main app perform at its best level.
There is also the minute tweaking of speed and snappiness of the interface. The idea of instant reaction when you open your message app, or your email, or anything.
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Ok I aint joking but seriously what is the point of overclocking a Desire z/G2. Unless I am running on a slow phone I don't see the point. Stock speed never lags and i haven't seen any difference between 1.5 ghz vs 800mhz.
The only time when 1.5ghz clock speed is useful is when i running quadrant and rubbing its scores infront of my friends face.
There is any areas where you can actually see the performance difference?
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Heavy multitasking
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flash video seems pretty laggy to me at 800...
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=overclocking
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=overclocking
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Best link ever! I hope i can remember it long enough to use it sometime.
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http://lmgtfy.com/?q=overclocking
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Ya i know what overclocking is but I haven't found one instances where I needed it to run an app. G2 is already damn fast and it runs android with no lag but I really see no point until more demanding ver. of android come out.
I just wanted to see who overclocks their G2 everyday and for what purpose.
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Ya i know what overclocking is but I haven't found one instances where I needed it to run an app. G2 is already damn fast and it runs android with no lag but I really see no point until more demanding ver. of android come out.
I just wanted to see who overclocks their G2 everyday and for what purpose.
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Fair question IMHO.
I don't see the difference when overclocking, or rather I don't feel it. Software does make a difference, but not the extra 200-500Mhz. I do feel however the battery drain
It always makes me laugh when somebody asks a legitimate question and you get silly responses like the above 2. It's as if these people feel threatened and have to justify that they are more knowledgeable than the op. The facts of the matter are most of the tweaks, mods and alterations are wholly unnecessary in the real world.
If you don't feel like it makes it better then you don't have to use it. I use it because I feel it makes everything just a little snappier and more instant. If you don't notice a difference that's fine. It's probably trivial for me to notice the little hang ups but I can't help it.
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For me there's several reasons. For the most part, the reason for oc is because you can. But there are practical reasons as well. For example, with the stock ROM running at 800MHz, you're stuck with that. With an oc kernel and using SetCPU or built in clock settings in CM, you can adjust it as needed. Gonna play a game? Bump it up to 1GHz or so. Done with said game? Take it back down to 800MHz. But it's not all about oc. Sometimes there's a need to underclock. Getting low on battery and don't have a charger near by and need to squeeze another hour or two out of it? Maybe take it down to 768MHz or 600MHz (if you're running Pershoot's kernel).
Dungeon Defender:
800 mHz : not fun, laggy
1.5 gHz : fun, graphic are more smooth
Reasons for using over clocking:
Because I can
Because sometimes I do notice the difference in performance of the UI and some applications (wait for Sense 3.0 etc...)
Because I also use it to underclock.
Like everything else, a lot of it is perception. My wife cannot see any difference between our normal cable channels and the HD ones. I can (or am I just trying to convince myself that I can?). Oh well.
Finally some practical and helpful responses, showing an understanding of the need for information from some people.
here's my experience when it comes to overclocking. keep in mind that, like with your computer, it does vary from user to user... so I'm making these statements from MY experience, not making blanket statements regarding all of our devices:
- if you run multiple homescreens with multiple widgets and ui "smoothness," not just aesthetically, but performance-wise as well, is of concern, mild overclocking becomes necessary.
- if you have several apps running at any given time (in background or foreground) and ui smoothness, same definition as above, is of concern, mild overclocking becomes necessary.
- if you run any iteration of a sense rom in any configuration and ui smoothness is of concern, mild overclocking becomes necessary.
- if you run PSX/N64 emulators and you don't want audio distortion or general lagginess, more aggressive (in my case, 1209 is a safe speed for maximizing performance without having a drastic effect on battery life) overclocking becomes necessary.
on AOSP builds, especially gingerbread-based, I don't think there is a necessity for more processing power than what we get from the factory if you're running a relatively slim setup and aren't using something like a PSX/N64 emulator regularly.
I run mine at 1ghz, but I did use 1.2ghz before. I do notice a slight performance difference. Overall tho I don't notice it much. I notice it more when I'm doing multiple things.
Nonsense!
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Finally some practical and helpful responses, showing an understanding of the need for information from some people.
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For all that you're talking, you have yet to provide anything of value to this conversation while you're sitting up there berating those other 2 posters.
Think about it.
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I run 1.1 because it is noticably faster. Everything opens faster and works smoother. My wife has a stock G2 and when I grab it to look something up on the web or to use maps when we're out, I instantly notice how mucher slower hers is.
Works for me so I use it.
I notice a definite performance boost on mine, but it also depends on which kernel/ROM you use. I was running meXroid for a few days and found that it got extremely laggy even overclocked with Flippy's kernel built in (1.9Ghz), plus my battery was dying faster than a Chuck Norris joke. PyroMod has always been reliable for me and I flashed back to 2.0 earlier and it's just as reliable and power-saving as ever.
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For all that you're talking, you have yet to provide anything of value to this conversation while you're sitting up there berating those other 2 posters.
Think about it.
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Thanks for that.
I'm thinking of buying this in August or sometime near that month and I have seen various reviews regarding this phone. It's very cheap and well worth the price. Since full custom roms can be flashed, exactly how much faster can you make the Blade? It's clock speed stock is 600Mhz, how much can you safely overclock too without heating problems or too many reboots? How much faster in general?
mine doesn't overclock that much i use 672mhz and would only get a reboot once in 2-3 weeks i can overclock to 710mhz but get reboots twice a day, but as with all overclocking it's different on different devices, some people have said they get 768 with no reboots
Yeah it really depends on your phone. Personally, I don't think it makes it much faster. I think 650MHz-700MHz is the sweet spot to avoid reboots and not create too much heat.
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Yeah it really depends on your phone. Personally, I don't think it makes it much faster. I think 650MHz-700MHz is the sweet spot to avoid reboots and not create too much heat.
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agree.
how fast your proc can go is really depend on your chip, because every chip is unique.
some can stable at 710Mhz, some even can stable at 800Mhz.
just reading this, iv had a pulse, a wildfire and now a blade, all of them i cant go over 710mhz lol
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And keep in mind that overclocking has a huge impact on battery life
@ Will
Seems you have very bad luck.
you wouldnt believe it lol, even my scroll tablet is supposed to rin at 800mhz but its been set at 720 lol, im using wbaw rom now and its set at 600mhz, tho i cant complain cause its really good
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Yeah, overclocking hardly makes much difference in terms of performance.
Hi there,
I'm really loving xda for years cause the active community here (depending on the device) and love to overclock my phone.
Through the years I've oc'ed it all starting with my HTC legend.
I know that it isn't just adding some freqs and voltages to make this happen, but I don't understand why (kernel)makers don't oc the S8. For example, I see som kernel developers build kernels with oc/uc and voltage control for the S7 (exynos). Some of those developers now build kernels for the S8, but don't add any oc possibility.
I just don't get why and am really curious if any of you understand why?
It's not that I'm not grateful for what they do (cause they are awesome) but I'm just REALLY curious and can't find the reason why it shouldn't and/or couldn't be done.
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Hi there,
I'm really loving xda for years cause the active community here (depending on the device) and love to overclock my phone.
Through the years I've oc'ed it all starting with my HTC legend.
I know that it isn't just adding some freqs and voltages to make this happen, but I don't understand why (kernel)makers don't oc the S8. For example, I see som kernel developers build kernels with oc/uc and voltage control for the S7 (exynos). Some of those developers now build kernels for the S8, but don't add any oc possibility.
I just don't get why and am really curious if any of you understand why?
It's not that I'm not grateful for what they do (cause they are awesome) but I'm just REALLY curious and can't find the reason why it shouldn't and/or couldn't be done.
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Well the snapdrag version can be underclocked but there is no OC as the kernel is not modifiable Due to locked BootLoader
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Well the snapdrag version can be underclocked but there is no OC as the kernel is not modifiable Due to locked BootLoader
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Sorry I didn't specify things. I do mean the exynos version. There are some kernels that lift the 2,3 max freq to 2,65 GHz, but know that some S7 kernels climb to 2,9 GHz. So (in my book) that means the S8 should be able to overclock to 3 GHz (cause of the base A73 base of the 2nd gen mongoose cores and 10nm footprint).
So I'm just curious if it's not possible or there is some other reason why none are doing this.
And with underclocking I meant adding freqs that are below the standard lowest freq, my bad. (Don't how to call it otherwise)
Battery life.....
Battery life mainly.
Through overclocking, sure you can make s8 run as fast as oneplus considering s8's heavy skin, but most of us would rather see 6-8 hours of SOT with 24 hours of usage than our app opening 1-2 seconds faster.
Saying that, there are plenty of debloated roms for s8 that can run faster/smoother than the stock without sacrificing the battery life.
So, as for your question, maybe the devs don't want to put too much effort on overclocking an already pretty fast processor or underclocking an already pretty efficient processor. I am not a dev so can't really talk about complicated codings and stuff.
Why would you overclock a Ferrari?
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Why would you overclock a Ferrari?
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This! Says it all.
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The S8 is fast enough on its own. I never even OC'd my S6. I find Exynos processors to be really fast as-is.
It's true, I dont't see any practical use for overclocking, yet. It would be purely for the fun of it. I'm sure we will see it more in the future, when some more hardware-heavy Games will be released.
Undervolting on the other surprises me aswell, to not see it frequently. Because, although it's totally fine right now, batterylife and efficiency can always be better.
I'm curious if we will see more Devs include this in their ROMs and Kernels
I agree with all the above. I called either due to snapdragon but I wouldn't even i if I could. I actually limit the clock speed on my big CPUs because the higher clock rates eat more power.
Also, why? Just why? Looking at cpu usage on my s8, the only time I've seen it actually pegged was running benchmarks. Overclocking is absolutely useless if the variable cpu clock never goes to 100% for more than milliseconds. Why do something so potentially dangerous for nothing?
:good::good::good:Well put guys:good::good::good:
I cant overclock but i still have set cpu and use it to underclock (when the screen is off) but most kf the time it is underclocked if it is not playing a game or ram extensive app
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Why would you overclock a Ferrari?
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Why you overclock GTX 2080? Why you overclock i9 or amd threadripper 2950x cpu? Why you overclock DDR4 3000MHZ Ram? Why you use 3DMark? Or cinebench or, or or........
Thats all the same.
To everyone asking "Why??", I find it rather odd that you don't know already...
The reason why some of us like (want) to overclock, or undervolt, is the exact same reason we're all on this site: We like to TWEAK STUFF!
Doesn't matter if it's rooting, flashing a custom ROM, creating a unique theme, coding a new app. All of those boil down to the same human instinct to explore, to make things better, or make new things. Whether or not it's needed is completely irrelevant
Using your logic, there's no reason to have a custom kernel in the first place, nevermind rooting your phone, or having custom ROM. The phone worked fine the way it was, after all, right?
In closing, the motto "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" is what the lay people adhere to. We who are more inclined in certain aspects of life (such as the XDA community) live by another: "If it ain't broke, tweak it!", or if you rather "If it ain't broke, tweak it till it does, then fix it!"
Please add over/underclocking and over/under volting for CPU and GPU cores to every kernel, for every device that allows it! We already except blame if anything bad should come to our device the moment we decide to root and/or flash something, so why not give us every single capability available for the devices and leave it up to us to do what we so choose? :good:
[Naturally, this is based on the assumption that a device lacks a bootloader, and the kernel maker possesses the knowledge; thus, this is referring to those situations where both apply.]
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To be faster than other team who is performance tuning as well. You don't have to do it because not everyone is doing. It should be geared towards to people who really care. Like others in this thread mention battery life but people like me wants it faster.
Also I game with the phone connected to charger all the time. I don't really game on the go though if I did I would bring portable battery if someone driving me. That just me.
People like me use phones for emulation. GameCube games are almost at the right speed but do run just a bit to slow in some location rendering them unpleasant to play. A bit more of cpu power would certainly make " Wind waker " run at constant 30 FPS. I hope this topic to be revived
Well just a quick answer , it's because of how samsung's voltage table is set , the voltage table is locked and to be modifed it needs to be hacked in some sort , that's why you cant oc that much since you need to change the voltage table and increase it so you can have stable oc
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There is alot of kernels that has oc already gpu and cpu wise , they add like 200mhz oc or something for cpu and 100 for the gpu yeah that would give you that little bit of extra juice but it aint stable in some sort you can have kernel crashes or system hogging that's due to the voltage table , i can make you a kernel that has 600mhz oc but ass soon as you select it , the phone would crash since it doesnt have enough power going to it
As Xperia modder said, darn LOCKED voltage table. If only it was unlocked....
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Well just a quick answer , it's because of how samsung's voltage table is set , the voltage table is locked and to be modifed it needs to be hacked in some sort , that's why you cant oc that much since you need to change the voltage table and increase it so you can have stable oc
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There is alot of kernels that has oc already gpu and cpu wise , they add like 200mhz oc or something for cpu and 100 for the gpu yeah that would give you that little bit of extra juice but it aint stable in some sort you can have kernel crashes or system hogging that's due to the voltage table , i can make you a kernel that has 600mhz oc but ass soon as you select it , the phone would crash since it doesnt have enough power going to it
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Can I ask you a question? Just to have a doubt removed from my head. Do you know if Exynos 8890 devices have locked voltage table as well?
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As Xperia modder said, darn LOCKED voltage table. If only it was unlocked....
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Can I ask you a question? Just to have a doubt removed from my head. Do you know if Exynos 8890 devices have locked voltage table as well?
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Well tbh i dont know but this has always been. A thing with exynos chips , yeah some developers go out of their way and write some stuff from scratch to make it work you know
Dn_nS said:
Hi there,
I'm really loving xda for years cause the active community here (depending on the device) and love to overclock my phone.
Through the years I've oc'ed it all starting with my HTC legend.
I know that it isn't just adding some freqs and voltages to make this happen, but I don't understand why (kernel)makers don't oc the S8. For example, I see som kernel developers build kernels with oc/uc and voltage control for the S7 (exynos). Some of those developers now build kernels for the S8, but don't add any oc possibility.
I just don't get why and am really curious if any of you understand why?
It's not that I'm not grateful for what they do (cause they are awesome) but I'm just REALLY curious and can't find the reason why it shouldn't and/or couldn't be done.
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Yeah has been realesed a2n kernel oc up to 2,8 ghz and oc up to 839mhz all of them is all core