Hello guys, from around 1-2 Mounths my Volume Down Key is broken.. so its not totally broken.
I think from a long use of my Blackstone and alot of flashing that is the reason why Down is broken also its strange that is not totaly broken, you know that when you remove the back cover the volume buttons are really small and they look black like some kind of plastic so exactly the plastic of the down volume key is broken and now im able to see under that black plastic the metal.. so with fingers i can press it so i can flash new ROMs without a problem but didn`t work when the cover is there and the volume down button just can`t do anything.. i think that other users here can have the same problem because in all Blackstone this is the same material used and etc so if anyone have expirience like this or any suggestion how can i fix this will be very cool
thanks in advance
Funny, my blackstone has the exact same physical problem, making the vol down key more difficult to press, the lower half of the internal one that black plastic you mention on mine is broken.
I read in the hints of the blackstone wiki that if your phones under warranty you could try to get the carrier to fix it, but thats not an option for me since I pulled mine completely apart.
I think its best if you can substitute the broken plastic with something maybe, I really haven't bothered for mine since the button still actually works with the case on it just needs a firmer press.
I have repaired plastic damage on pc cases before (broken front door hinges and such), I just used superglue, some of those plastic 5.1/4" or the 3.1/2" ATA clips you get on some cases, and a stanly.
Im sure I could carve out a small piece plastic that would work.
If you really want to go one further, then what I can suggest is taking the two plastic back covers off your phone, and actually repairing the black plastic part on the back cover, my guess is you could use a couple of layers of heat shrink and glue and with enough time and effort achieve a good result, see, the actual volume button PCB hopefully isnt damaged for yours, as it isn't for mine, and if thats the case then its actually just that internal black cover that is a tiny bit broken.
I fix it today and i will explain how if anyone have the same problem to know what to do its very easy for around 1 minute work and now work perfect:
Because of the broken half plastic of the volume down button the problem was that when im with back cover and i press the volume down key didn`t work because the back cover dont button when is pressed cannot press the volume down button that is on the device.. because all is so tinny and this black plastic that is on the button is around 1/10 of the milimeter very very tinny but on the same time this is enought the button to cannot be pressed. So i remove the back cover and from paper tape i cut one litle squere with the size of the button .. but because the paper tape is really really tinny i put 3-4 paper tapes in one they to become more chik then i apply the paper tape exactly on the down button and then put the back cover so now when i press the volume down button work again because this paper tape help the button to be pressed
Very easy fix for 1 minute.. of course better will be if you don`t have problems like this.. but when heppan you know what to do
nice work!
Looking back at the images I took when replacing my touchscreen and lcd, I noticed that the part of plastic that does suffer the damage isn't actually a part of the outer shell casing, but is actually applied in some way over the top of the soldered buttons on the tiny volume PCB (& ribbon), therefore, you could always take off the shell, remove the pcb with tweesers, apply a small it of electrical tape, and put it back together to achieve a more permanent result
I should've done this when i fixed my screen, I might look into fixing it in the above way in the near future as the volume down button doesnt work that well currently.
I did have exactly the same problem with my volume down key....
Because I still was in the period of the guarantee I sent my phone back to HTC repair center I get it back after 2 weeks with a new volume down key (they changed that broken very very thin plastic) and now it works again perfectly!
Heart1010 said:
I did have exactly the same problem with my volume down key....
Because I still was in the period of the guarantee I sent my phone back to HTC repair center I get it back after 2 weeks with a new volume down key (they changed that broken very very thin plastic) and now it works again perfectly!
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The question is if you have a Hardware problem like this broken plastic do u need to re flash to stock ROM when you are going to ask for repair? or when you dont have any problem with the device.. because the volume down key have nothing to do with the software etc do u can go to ask for repair with costum rom?
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The question is if you have a Hardware problem like this broken plastic do u need to re flash to stock ROM when you are going to ask for repair? or when you dont have any problem with the device.. because the volume down key have nothing to do with the software etc do u can go to ask for repair with costum rom?
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No way you always have to flash the stock rom (and stock spl!!! they check if "olinex" is there in bootloader!) when you send your phone to the repair center... so did I.
Although this broken vol key has nothing to do with the software the repair center has done a complete test of the phone. And this includes flashing the newest stock rom again. Yes, although I have flashed the latest official HTC rom when I send it to repair center they do that again (after they repaired my device)!! So you always get a completely blank phone back from this repair center.
(spoken from the repair center here in germany but I think this is always the same in every country)
I ask because here in Bulgaria i think we do not have official HTC repair center.. so when i buy the device from somewhere they give me 2 years waranty but from them i mean.. if i have troubles i need to go to the places from where i buy the device and they will repair it.. they will not send it to HTC official or anything else..
thats is the reason why i ask you
tsalta said:
I ask because here in Bulgaria i think we do not have official HTC repair center.. so when i buy the device from somewhere they give me 2 years waranty but from them i mean.. if i have troubles i need to go to the places from where i buy the device and they will repair it.. they will not send it to HTC official or anything else..
thats is the reason why i ask you
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same here in germany... i get the name/adress for this repair center from my shop where i bought my touch hd. And then I had the choice if I send my touch hd to my shop (and then they send it to this adress) or I send it myself to the repair center.
I think it'll be the same in other countries. HTC has "partners" in every country for such repair/warrenty things. For germany the repair center is called "arvato services solutions GmbH" (so not an official HTC firm I think)
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Hey guys!
I donno is this a common problem, but it is freaking me out!!
So here is the thing.. I have a problem with my hermits body construction..
The problem is in upper left corner, when I press it with my fingers it clicks and feels like it isn`t screwed enough ( back cover with front ). So when I am holding device in my left hand and want to press hardware button for messaging located in upper left corner, first I feel and hear body clicking, then I feel and hear button pressed.. So it seems like I pressed the button twice and that is so irritating !!
Same thing happens when the hardware keyboard is sliden out, but then it is in bottom left corner and same thing as with hardware messaging button but now it is with CTRL ( dot ) key on qwerty keyboard.
Does anybody have these problems also or it is just me ?
Is there any solution for this ?
Thnx in advance.
No you are not the only one. In fact mine did it until I took the back off and put a small folded piece of paper in to take up the slack. You see the screw is in properly and will be tight - I tightened it a little more but that made no difference. There is around a quarter to half a mm gap that causes some cases at least to creak a little at top left corner. As you see from inside back pop off cover, the screw is not in the corner but quite far down. It passes through the camera module that keeps it a fraction high for a tight fit.
Mike
Yes, I`ve noticed that screw is not right in the corner like others 3 and it has warranty void over it. I was looking into this problem and also noticed that screwing that screw won`t solve the problem, just like you said.
So the only thing is to void that warranty and open the back cover and put a piece of paper to fill the gap. That seems a little complicated because I never did such thing before and I am scared that I will have problem putting it all back together.
Anyway.. Thank you for your solution..
I will give it a try when my warranty voids and/or when I decide to make my device SuperCID and loose warranty.
why don't u send it in for that and see if the warranty will take care of it? i know here "the customer is always right" so if you ***** enough you might get lucky and get a replacement.
Mine doesn't have that issue, its an imate jasjam which i purchased the last week of december.
I`ve contacted HTC support in my country, now I am waiting for reply..
To tell you the truth, I doubt they will agree to repair it under warranty.. They have strange policy no matter how much the customer is right :-|
I can ***** all I want, that won`t change a thing..
The best thing I can do is not to buy HTC device again and that is what I am going to do if they decline my request for fixing this issue.
If they want to keep their customers they should change the customer support policy, but that is up to them, maybe they don`t like their customers..
I'm sceptical that I'll get a response, but here goes nothing!
I don't know how where or when, but I lost my volume control button.
Does anyone have a dead HD that can sell the volume up/down button?
Thanks for reading
can't help you but curious as to how you lost it?
Maybe a dummy phone of the HD can be found on eBay with hope that the part is a exact replica. I was holding the Diamond dummy phone and the buttons seemed like the real thing.
Do you mean the thing that part of the back cover? I think looking for the back cover itself could be cheaper .
Hi
It's not part of the back cover, it's actually the volume up/down button.
I tried the dummy phones, but they just have a moulding
I spoke to HTC and they will only repair if I send in ($$$) and the don't just sell the button.
I suspect it fell by being squeezed somehow and flicking out.
grrrr
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Do you mean the thing that part of the back cover? I think looking for the back cover itself could be cheaper .
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oh no, it seems you're right after all. I checked my other backcover, and there it was. I didn't loose it at all, it's just that I never moved it to my new cover.
cheers man!!
LOL!
Why'd you get a new cover? Was it, by chance, an attempt to get rid of the creaking sounds every time you handled the phone or used the touch screen? Did it work?
nope, it was because I scratched it!
It was the second time replacing the housing on my Touch. I was a bit careless when putting it back together. I broke the slider button on the side. Can anybody tell me where I can get a replacement??
You try ebay? I found my speaker on ebay and it was only $5.50+free shipping straight from China. It took 9 days for delivery
Did you break the slider, or the physical button assembly on the PCB?
My camera button housing broke (not the button itself), so I had to open my Vogue, tear it out, and now I have to press a tiny phillip's screwdriver against two contacts to get my phone to boot to the bootloader.
Hopefully you haven't wrecked the PCB and can find a suitable replacement.
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Did you break the slider, or the physical button assembly on the PCB?
My camera button housing broke (not the button itself), so I had to open my Vogue, tear it out, and now I have to press a tiny phillip's screwdriver against two contacts to get my phone to boot to the bootloader.
Hopefully you haven't wrecked the PCB and can find a suitable replacement.
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i just ordered a new housing for my vogue if you need any part of my old one we can arrange that. pm me
Hi . I changed my tmobile hd2's screen .
After change volume keys not working. So I can't update any rom.
Because I can't enter recovery.
How can I upgrade any rom without volume keys.
Can "CWM recovery touch" solve my problem.
Can I upgrade any rom with cwm touch recovery without volume keys
im not really sure about how to initally get into the recovery withour the volume keys, but if you can some how, a touch CMW recovery will work
it has directional keys on the bottom of the screen for you to navigate around
just flash it like you wud a normal recovery with what ever set-up size you need!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1419733
On the non touch cwm (some of them anyway) you can use home and menu hard keys to scroll as well as volume.
But as already mentioned,you can't get into recovery so having touch or alternate keys won't help.
matcoder said:
Hi . I changed my tmobile hd2's screen .
After change volume keys not working. So I can't update any rom.
Because I can't enter recovery.
How can I upgrade any rom without volume keys.
Can "CWM recovery touch" solve my problem.
Can I upgrade any rom with cwm touch recovery without volume keys
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DO NOT FLASH ANYTHING WITH DAMAGED VOLUME KEYS!!
I flashed a splash screen on mine after damaging ribbon to volume keys and now I have a main board that will NOT recognize these keys even after replacing the broken part, I cant say yours will do this, but mine did soo...
I have replaced two screens on mine, the ribbon to the volume rocker is very delicate i tore two of them on my first screen replacement ( i buy bricked HD2s' for screens). I have had my HD2 now almost two years and no parts are original. Just recently i FINALLY bought one with a busted out screen so i could replace just the main ribbon assembly and a main board that can use volume keys.
This main ribbon sits under your regulatory label ( with the FCC shiz and serial #'s) its integral with your GPS radio, camera assembly, and of course volume rocker keys.
This can be replaced with only moderate difficulty, there are videos even from HTC that explains how to disassemble/reassemble everything safely and in order.
Disassemble
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL-jnUKufC4
Reassemble
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8Q7mXdcJ54&feature=channel&list=UL
I found those after I ripped not one but two volume key ribbons....
To do this you need to pay attention to how the coaxial cables for bluetooth(white) and GPS(black thin) sit, to avoid a few hours of trial and error. getting everything to fit again.
First disconnect the coaxial from blutooth be gentle now, its the white cable at the left of my first image, that phone is nowhere near assembled remember how your cable was positioned. remove and unplug the speaker as well as the vibrator as you move the white cable out of the way, stop pulling it when you hit the screw hole at the top right corner of regulatory label.
Just above where the screw hole is you should see another plug like the blutooth coaxial only black disconnect that and leave it there. try to leave the thicker black cable that leads to camera connected, its ok if it comes out but its a pain to get connected again.
When the top right of your phone looks like my second pic your ready to remove the screw keeping the gps in place thats the top right screw, silver.
disconnect the camera cable from the main board its right next to the battery terminals, the only plug there and hard to miss behind where your simcard goes.
This is important..... right behind the volume keys is the groove thats keeping those coaxial and camera cables in place, under those is the ribbon leading to volume rocker. taking note of how they fit remove these cables from the groove 4th pic
Sorry about the detail cameras are less than perfect on ICS builds and im a terrible photographer on top of that. you must understand that there is a black tape holding those wires together near the mother board, thats right where the volume ribbon is so be careful when you get to that. i just cut/tear the tape holding wires in place, also one of the coaxial cables plugs under the main board right there as well be careful not to disconnect that, you wont hurt anything but its a pain to get it back.
after cables are free from groove you can remove volume rocker. rocker board is held with adhesive just like the camera up top. using fingernail pry the board away from its housing, when its loose from the housing its glued to just let it sit loose, be gentle while getting that loose.
now for the gps/camera, you can fit a small flat head screwdriver between edges of gps board and the plastic of the phone casing, the gps board has clip holding left side so go from the right or the same side that screw was in.
the camera is only adhered so you can put pressure to wherever you feel comfortable its actually pretty solid i have done it a few times and never harmed it.
peel it like you would a sticker down to the main board where it connects under the sdcard then pull it straight back. the last image is what the assembly looks like in tact so have an idea of where not to put too much stress when peeling it.
again DONT FLASH ANYTHING IF YOU RIPPED RIBBON TO VOLUME ROCKER!! This may wreck your main board as it did mine and you'll be stuck on sd builds until you find another main board....
HD2's with busted screens go for about $60-80 off ebay shipped. send me message if you have any q's, also that ribbon/camera/gps assembly in last picture is tested by me and fully functional, also much cheaper than a busted screen HD2 ........
Hi mrbox23,
I believe I have flashed my HTC HD2 (or at least tried) and now I can't get past the HTC splash screen and can't initiate the bootloader!
Hi opened the HTC HD2 and found that the ribbon/flex to volume rocker is cutted!
Now, according to your post it's probable that if I replace the whole main flex I won't be able to initiate bootloadr because the mainboard won't recognise the volume buttons?
Another question is: you said "This may wreck your main board as it did mine and you'll be stuck on sd builds until you find another main board...." this means that I can still use my HTC HD 2 using the sd memory card only with some build? If so can you tell me, or at least, point out some post where to do it? Because in every post that I saw it is necessary to be able to initiate the bootloader!
I would be very gratefull if you could help me on this.
Best regards,
calcaneo
Hi guys,
I just disassembled my HD2 to replace my broken digitizer and touchscreen.
But now i'm stuck with a problem.
What shall I use to glue both items together again?
And the keyboard makes some issues.
I tried to place both parts over eachother to see if they fit but I can't press the keys after it.
Seems like they are stuck.
That's why I didn't want to use superglue because after assembling it I wouldn't be able to change anything.
Maybe pictures tell more than words.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8Q7mXdcJ54&feature=player_embedded
hope that helps you
thanks wasn't the information I was looking for but nevermind
I assembled the device now .. but the next problem occured ..
the hd2 is loading without problems (led shows it) but when I try to power it on it's completely dead. nothing happends
with my old touchscreen it was at least possible to power it on.
my question is:
could the new soldered touchscreen + digitizer be broken? or did I break something during disassembly and assembly?
To be honest I didn't see any mistakes I made.
It's not my first time repairing stuff like that because I used to repair notebooks as a hobby.
Still i'm unsure what the heck is going on with my phone atm.
did you check if the flex cable from display is in the port, there is an white stripe that shows how far it must in the port. Did the phone vibrate when you pressed power button?
I checked the cables and found nothing suspicious.
and the phone didnt even vibrate after trying to power it on.
I'm trying to get a new hardkey board (i hope you know what I mean).
Had problems with the keys being stuck and maybe I killed that one by trying to assemble it.
if the phone doesn't recognize me pushing the power on key it's no wonder it won't do anything.
hope this will fix the problem
12dollar said:
I checked the cables and found nothing suspicious.
and the phone didnt even vibrate after trying to power it on.
I'm trying to get a new hardkey board (i hope you know what I mean).
Had problems with the keys being stuck and maybe I killed that one by trying to assemble it.
if the phone doesn't recognize me pushing the power on key it's no wonder it won't do anything.
hope this will fix the problem
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Most likely something is wrong with your Power button, but you should turn it on with 2nd method:
- pull out battery;
- insert usb cable(connected to PC)/charger in your usb port;
- insert battery.
This way it should turn on whatever OS you have installed on.
If your OS is Android through MAGLDR, connecting it through usb should turn it on by default, unless your battery is not dead!
Check it out!
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Most likely something is wrong with your Power button, but you should turn it on with 2nd method:
- pull out battery;
- insert usb cable(connected to PC)/charger in your usb port;
- insert battery.
This way it should turn on whatever OS you have installed on.
If your OS is Android through MAGLDR, connecting it through usb should turn it on by default, unless your battery is not dead!
Check it out!
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I just did as you said and yeah the phone came to life.
so there is definately a dead power button (probably the board is broken)
12dollar said:
I just did as you said and yeah the phone came to life.
so there is definately a dead power button (probably the board is broken)
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Glad to hear that!
Definitely you should replace your keypad flex!
Did you fix the problem with the hardware keys
Hi,
I have very similar problem.
I changed the touch screen on my HD2 and after reassembling I cannot get the hardware keys clicked.
I ordered a brand new key board and brand new plastic buttons. I received them but situation is the same.
If somebody can explain is there any trick during adjusting the plastic buttons to the clickable "small dots" on the board - please help me.
Best Regards
maznevh said:
Hi,
I have very similar problem.
I changed the touch screen on my HD2 and after reassembling I cannot get the hardware keys clicked.
I ordered a brand new key board and brand new plastic buttons. I received them but situation is the same.
If somebody can explain is there any trick during adjusting the plastic buttons to the clickable "small dots" on the board - please help me.
Best Regards
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Normally this is always down to glass digitizer not being aligned correctly when stuck to LCD.
0.05mm can make all the difference here.
You need review current digitizer position & pre test assembly to centre chassis without tape for a test run on button function.
Also check button board position is exact & located correctly in the pin holes at each end of the board.
original board quality is normally far better than most of the very cheap eBay pattern parts but one or two sellers offer a decent board around $4.50
Also clean all old tape from back of LCD & centre chassis plate so parts fit flush & once all checked new tape can be added, I also use small spots of up40 adhesive sealant near corners & near middle edges for final build up as holds far better than even the best tapes & gives an original strength & long lasting flush look to final job plus us easily removed with razor blade if repair ever needed again.
Super glue is a BIG no no NO.
Hard to get hardware buttons clickable
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Normally this is always down to glass digitizer not being aligned correctly when stuck to LCD.
0.05mm can make all the difference here.
You need review current digitizer position & pre test assembly to centre chassis without tape for a test run on button function.
Also check button board position is exact & located correctly in the pin holes at each end of the board.
original board quality is normally far better than most of the very cheap eBay pattern parts but one or two sellers offer a decent board around $4.50
Also clean all old tape from back of LCD & centre chassis plate so parts fit flush & once all checked new tape can be added, I also use small spots of up40 adhesive sealant near corners & near middle edges for final build up as holds far better than even the best tapes & gives an original strength & long lasting flush look to final job plus us easily removed with razor blade if repair ever needed again.
Super glue is a BIG no no NO.
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It is not the case in my case , because I ordered full set (digitizer + display) and they arrived factory assembled.
But you are definitely right - 0.05 mm make the difference. I think the problem comes from the fact that the board with buttons cannot be firmly fixed to the 2 small juts on the chassis. You know the plug of the buttons board is on the tail like extension. Probably when I try to cover the buttons board with the LCD+digitizer - the frame of the LCD slightly pushes the buttons board and the juts on the plastic buttons cannot be fixed exactly on the top of the actual buttons on the board. Anyway we are speaking about precise fixing something around 0.05 mm over something else, which is exactly same size... and in the same time you have to fix this without any visibility.
I will continue trying. If you can give me any other ideas - I will appreciate this.
Thanks
maznevh said:
It is not the case in my case , because I ordered full set (digitizer + display) and they arrived factory assembled.
But you are definitely right - 0.05 mm make the difference. I think the problem comes from the fact that the board with buttons cannot be firmly fixed to the 2 small juts on the chassis. You know the plug of the buttons board is on the tail like extension. Probably when I try to cover the buttons board with the LCD+digitizer - the frame of the LCD slightly pushes the buttons board and the juts on the plastic buttons cannot be fixed exactly on the top of the actual buttons on the board. Anyway we are speaking about precise fixing something around 0.05 mm over something else, which is exactly same size... and in the same time you have to fix this without any visibility.
I will continue trying. If you can give me any other ideas - I will appreciate this.
Thanks
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Do not rule out the LCD/Digitizer assembly as the china combos are prone to not the best accuracy of assembly as sounds like maybe LCD is mounted just a fraction too low on the digitizer perhaps.
Button board should be fixed via 3M style tape & most replacement boards come with tape ready for fitting.
worth making effort with button board to centre chassis to mount securely then mounting lcd to chassis without tape for a trial assembly & try and check for possible issues such as bent chassis or old tape not removed sufficiently or new assembly alignment not the best.
I would also recommend using original plastic button strip as the copy ones are not always good & have had experience with them before.