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Hello all,
Please bear with me, I am very new to rooting and this is my first post here . I rooted my MyTouch3g today with the 1touch method, no problems whatsoever. I Have the CryogenMod 4.0.1, and everything seems to be working fine. I just have a few questions that i would appreciate if anyone could answer.
1) What is the difference between 32a and 32b? I see these terms being thrown around alot.
- I think i read somewhere before rooting that the MyTouch3g is 32b, so i made sure to get Cryo for 32b, but i do not actually know the difference.
2) Is there a good USB Tethering application for MyTouch3g? I have the Wifi Tether app, but would like a USB one for my Desktop Computer.
3)Do Class 6 SD Cards make a huge difference? I just ordered one from newegg after reading that it would greatly improve performance.
4)I Installed Apps2SD, and i ran the program, then all my applications disappeared and i had to reinstall them. I did not create any partitions or anything yet, which i think might have caused it to do so. Has anyone experienced Apps2SD seemingly getting rid of all applications?
5) Are there any good stable/fast completely new interface roms besides the Hero UI? I heard that the Hero UI roms are not as fast as the original/Cryo roms. Please correct me if i am wrong.
Thank you for your time.
i can answer a couple of your questions. and i think you mean Cyanogen, not Cryogen...
1) 32A and 32B are the two different types of HTC Magic devices. The difference is the RAM where 32A has 288 MB and 32B devices have 192 MB. As a result of this, rom's made for 32A will have trouble running on 32B devices as it will be expecting 288 MB of RAM and vice-versa.
2) dunno about this
3) In my experience, if you are constantly running files from the SD card, the class will make a difference.
4) dunno about this
5) you could always install the Cyanogen rom and use a Hero theme. if you're lucky enough, i've heard the Palm Pre theme is stable and pretty fast.
kcm117 said:
Hello all,
Please bear with me, I am very new to rooting and this is my first post here . I rooted my MyTouch3g today with the 1touch method, no problems whatsoever. I Have the CryogenMod 4.0.1, and everything seems to be working fine. I just have a few questions that i would appreciate if anyone could answer.
1) What is the difference between 32a and 32b? I see these terms being thrown around alot.
- I think i read somewhere before rooting that the MyTouch3g is 32b, so i made sure to get Cryo for 32b, but i do not actually know the difference.
2) Is there a good USB Tethering application for MyTouch3g? I have the Wifi Tether app, but would like a USB one for my Desktop Computer.
3)Do Class 6 SD Cards make a huge difference? I just ordered one from newegg after reading that it would greatly improve performance.
4)I Installed Apps2SD, and i ran the program, then all my applications disappeared and i had to reinstall them. I did not create any partitions or anything yet, which i think might have caused it to do so. Has anyone experienced Apps2SD seemingly getting rid of all applications?
5) Are there any good stable/fast completely new interface roms besides the Hero UI? I heard that the Hero UI roms are not as fast as the original/Cryo roms. Please correct me if i am wrong.
Thank you for your time.
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1) 32A is the HTC branded or rogers Magic. It has 288 MB of Ram. the 32B is the Vodafone or Mytouch. It has 192 megs of Ram. Not as powerful. It's also CyanogenMod. Not CryogenMod.
2) If you search you can probably find one. Wireless Tether for Root Users is probably what you have and it is great in my opinion. Prefer it over a wired tether anyways.
3) Class 6 are badass. Good move on buying it from newegg. You will notice a difference.
4) CyanogenMod does apps2sd for you. If you ran another apps2sd program, it will break it. That's probably why that happened. Wipe your phone and reflash. When you install apps, it will do it on its own, but only if you have your SD card partitioned. You do not need to run any apps2sd programs.
5) Cyanogen has the best ROM in my opinion. Fast, stable, very clean, etc. Hero is basically your other option. If you do go that route, I recommend Qtek's Hero. It is wicked fast. Haven't really had any lag issues myself. Cyanogen had a Palm Pre port but I think that was removed due to Palm, Inc. filing a complaint. Not 100% on that one.
Hope this helped.
Thanks
Thank you for both of your replies, heh i will now refer to it by the correct name, Cyanogen.
I Guess i will look up how to partition the card, but ill just wait until my Class6 comes in the mail rather than bothering to do it with the lame stock 4GB Card.
Thanks again.
if you have a mytouch, i would actually suggest just formatting your memory card with just the plain fat32 1 partition, and not bother with apps2sd... apps2sd was really created because people were running out of memory on the g1... i'm currently running cyanogen's rom without apps2sd and i actually find it faster... all you have to do is not partition your card for apps2sd and cyanogen's rom will not install apps2sd... i'm sure you can find reasons to use app2sd in the future, but you can fit hundreds of applications on the onboard RAM instead of the sd card, which is always going to be faster...
look for pdanet for usb tethering... it costs 29.99 for the full version, but you can use it for free for HTTP web browsing ONLY... it won't work for most anything else... its not available on the android market because google pulled it, but just do a google search for it and you'll find it... you'll have to go into settings > applications > and check unknown sources so you can install the .apk after you download it from the website
more of a newbie
I just got my mytouch and i wanna put this on it where do i begin....from the 100% start..?
thanks in advance
you're gonna have to root it and upload 3.9.7. Then from there you can flash the theme.
tazz9690 said:
you're gonna have to root it and upload 3.9.7. Then from there you can flash the theme.
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Hey guys,so now that the mt3g is able to be rooted.I have 2 questions.About this whole 32A/B thing.How do i find out which one mine is, because people are saying that the 32A's are 288memory,and i have a mytouch3g and it has 288mbRAM 512ROM so which one do i have?And then if i root my phone,can i NOT put a rom on it?.I only wanted to root my phone for the multi-touch/flash capabilities.Does the root even enable it?THanks all.
jkwon85 said:
Hey guys,so now that the mt3g is able to be rooted.I have 2 questions.About this whole 32A/B thing.How do i find out which one mine is, because people are saying that the 32A's are 288memory,and i have a mytouch3g and it has 288mbRAM 512ROM so which one do i have?And then if i root my phone,can i NOT put a rom on it?.I only wanted to root my phone for the multi-touch/flash capabilities.Does the root even enable it?THanks all.
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The mytouch has 192 there are no 288 for mytouch. If u do root it, you are already flashing a modified rom to begin with. Depending on the rom, it could have multi touch. Cyanogen has it in his newest 4.0.2 version. The hero roms are the only ones with flash, but they are not that great. It aslo has multi touch but they lag. Hope this helps
jkwon85 said:
Hey guys,so now that the mt3g is able to be rooted.I have 2 questions.About this whole 32A/B thing.How do i find out which one mine is, because people are saying that the 32A's are 288memory,and i have a mytouch3g and it has 288mbRAM 512ROM so which one do i have?And then if i root my phone,can i NOT put a rom on it?.I only wanted to root my phone for the multi-touch/flash capabilities.Does the root even enable it?THanks all.
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Word,just did the 1click flashrec.apk,and updated to cyanogen stable 4.0.2 or wutever rom.very nice ROM,got multi touch on browser and other few nice tweaks,i love the fact that it doesnt try and be something it isnt.This is how the phone should have shipped stock.
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The mytouch has 192 there are no 288 for mytouch. If u do root it, you are already flashing a modified rom to begin with. Depending on the rom, it could have multi touch. Cyanogen has it in his newest 4.0.2 version. The hero roms are the only ones with flash, but they are not that great. It aslo has multi touch but they lag. Hope this helps
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Ok, this information must be out of date because we just gota MyTouch for my wife and it has 288mb out of the box. So what other way is there to identify if this is 32a/32b? Is it possible that Tmobile just decided to release a 32a version? Or is it a 32b just because its a MyTouch? I saw a post that lists them by which board is in them. How do you see which board is installed? Please excuse if this is all something that has been covered, I have used the search function which is how I found this article. And Im new to android so I'm not quite sure what to search. Thank you in advance for your time and courtesy.
OmsagroSylph said:
Ok, this information must be out of date because we just gota MyTouch for my wife and it has 288mb out of the box. So what other way is there to identify if this is 32a/32b? Is it possible that Tmobile just decided to release a 32a version? Or is it a 32b just because its a MyTouch? I saw a post that lists them by which board is in them. How do you see which board is installed? Please excuse if this is all something that has been covered, I have used the search function which is how I found this article. And Im new to android so I'm not quite sure what to search. Thank you in advance for your time and courtesy.
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No, it's not out of date. You are probably referring to the ROM, that's the space where your apps are stored. If you download a lot of apps, that space will go down. To give you further confirmation as to what board you have, which is 32B, power off your phone and then press the "back" button and power at the same time. You will go into fastboot from here. It will show you that you have a 32B board from there. The mytouch has 192MB of RAM. In the first quarter of next year, a special edition of the mytouch will be released, which will be 32A board, having the 288MB of ram. It will be a Fender edition. Hopefully this answered your questions.
tazz9690 said:
No, it's not out of date. You are probably referring to the ROM, that's the space where your apps are stored. If you download a lot of apps, that space will go down. To give you further confirmation as to what board you have, which is 32B, power off your phone and then press the "back" button and power at the same time. You will go into fastboot from here. It will show you that you have a 32B board from there. The mytouch has 192MB of RAM. In the first quarter of next year, a special edition of the mytouch will be released, which will be 32A board, having the 288MB of ram. It will be a Fender edition. Hopefully this answered your questions.
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Ah ok, well that makes sense then. ^^ thanks for the information that was extremely helpful.
Just got my Desire Z today & as much as i love it I hate sense. I'm using ADD.Launcher atm to try & hide it but I still get there crappy apps.
So my question is, which is the best ROM to flash my phone to get to Vanilla Android?
Thanks in advance
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cyanogenmod rom... Its amazing... has probably the most support cause there are soo many users
Try Cyanogen. Check out the thread in the G2 dev forum, where there's loads of activity (the thread on the DZ side is pretty dead).
I've used Cyanogen before on my G1 & its good but it never felt like stock to me. Just wondering is it possible to flash the G2 Rom onto the Desire Z?
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
KarlosTheJackal said:
I've used Cyanogen before on my G1 & its good but it never felt like stock to me. Just wondering is it possible to flash the G2 Rom onto the Desire Z?
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According to Cyanogen it's still not a totally stock build. But if you use gfree to get full radio S-OFF, you should be able to flash the G2 ROM. Do not try this with just S-OFF from the engineering hboot.
steviewevie said:
According to Cyanogen it's still not a totally stock build. But if you use gfree to get full radio S-OFF, you should be able to flash the G2 ROM. Do not try this with just S-OFF from the engineering hboot.
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'Radio S-OFF' *confused look on face* I am very confused as to what you mean.
What is 'Radio S-OFF'? And what's 'engineering hboot'? Think I need to read up a bit more before I even consider rooting this device, if you could point me towards the best place to start I would be greatfull!
Edit:Spelling errors lol
Sent from my HTC Desire Z
I have not seen stock Android running, only with Sense on my Desire Z, and I've not been able to find a simple list of what specific features Sense has added over vanilla.
Could someone point me to somewhere which might tell me whether I might prefer vanillia Android, as I'd hate to switch to an otherwise better ROM only to find lots of features that I liked have suddenly vanished...
Andre
KarlosTheJackal said:
'Radio S-OFF' *confused look on face* I am very confused as to what you mean.
What is 'Radio S-OFF'? And what's 'engineering hboot'? Think I need to read up a bit more before I even consider rooting this device, if you could point me towards the best place to start I would be greatfull!
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If you look through the dev forum, you will find lots of custom ROMs. There are some custom ROMs based on the stock G2 ROM, and you may want to try one of those our (or possibly more than one of those).
What you need to do is to get permanent root on your phone (I recommend using the "rage" method, documented in the dev forum). Then you need to get S-OFF (Security Off) so that you can flash unsigned (i.e. custom) ROM images.
Originally there was a sort-of S-OFF using an "engineering" version of the bootloader. This was ok but kinda risky. We now have a much safer method, described in the stickes on the dev forum, using a program called "gfree". It now is clear you haven't used the engineering hboot, so just forget I ever mentioned that lol.
What I recommend you do is read up on "rage" and the new "gfree" S-OFF, read some more, ask questions if you're not sure, then only finally once you're clear, go ahead and do those procedures. Before you try another one, install ROM Manager from the Market, use it to flash Clockwork Recovery (it's an option inside ROM Manager), and then use it to do a full backup of your ROM - so that will mean if you don't like the new ROM you can very easily restore to what you have now.
andrewilley said:
I have not seen stock Android running, only with Sense on my Desire Z, and I've not been able to find a simple list of what specific features Sense has added over vanilla.
Could someone point me to somewhere which might tell me whether I might prefer vanillia Android, as I'd hate to switch to an otherwise better ROM only to find lots of features that I liked have suddenly vanished...
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You'll lose all the HTC apps. So if you like any of them, maybe you won't like a stock Android ROM ?
Have a look at HTC's spec sheet on the DZ, which does list all their add-on apps and widgets too, that should give you an idea - http://www.htc.com/uk/product/desirez/specification.html
But you could always do a Nandroid backup of what you have now, flash a new ROM to try it, then you can easily go back if you don't like it.
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But you could always do a Nandroid backup of what you have now, flash a new ROM to try it, then you can easily go back if you don't like it.
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This.
Also want to point out that HTC's enhancements go beyond the apps, rosie-launcher and the widgets...
The T9-based dialler is theirs, as is the camera, the deskclock (with world cities), the music player, etc...
Oh and lots of little things like the icons/black statusbar etc.
I generally don't like having to use Sense, but I wish Google would up their game with regards to the dialler and camera especially. They're just terrible at the moment (which is why Cyanogen went to the trouble of practically making his own camera app).
Hopefully for Honeycomb...
catachresistant said:
This.
Also want to point out that HTC's enhancements go beyond the apps, rosie-launcher and the widgets...
The T9-based dialler is theirs, as is the camera, the deskclock (with world cities), the music player, etc...
Oh and lots of little things like the icons/black statusbar etc.
I generally don't like having to use Sense, but I wish Google would up their game with regards to the dialler and camera especially. They're just terrible at the moment (which is why Cyanogen went to the trouble of practically making his own camera app).
Hopefully for Honeycomb...
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I have to say that I'm a Sense fan. I can't fault it over stock Android (aside from the slight performance overhead, which is a non-issue if you overclock).
Vanilla Android - awful camera, contacts, dialler, ugly as hell, launcher looks nice but is plain annoying cos it doesn't fling more than a few lines, you don't get the Sense weather animations which I think are awesome eyecandy for showing off your phone to other people, Sense widgets are all generally pretty, the list goes on...
But ultimately that is MY preference, and the awesome thing about Android is you can customise it to fit your preferences. Try vanilla out - you have absolutely nothing to lose and everything to gain
steviewevie said:
If you look through the dev forum, you will find lots of custom ROMs. There are some custom ROMs based on the stock G2 ROM, and you may want to try one of those our (or possibly more than one of those).
What you need to do is to get permanent root on your phone (I recommend using the "rage" method, documented in the dev forum). Then you need to get S-OFF (Security Off) so that you can flash unsigned (i.e. custom) ROM images.
Originally there was a sort-of S-OFF using an "engineering" version of the bootloader. This was ok but kinda risky. We now have a much safer method, described in the stickes on the dev forum, using a program called "gfree". It now is clear you haven't used the engineering hboot, so just forget I ever mentioned that lol.
What I recommend you do is read up on "rage" and the new "gfree" S-OFF, read some more, ask questions if you're not sure, then only finally once you're clear, go ahead and do those procedures. Before you try another one, install ROM Manager from the Market, use it to flash Clockwork Recovery (it's an option inside ROM Manager), and then use it to do a full backup of your ROM - so that will mean if you don't like the new ROM you can very easily restore to what you have now.
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Thank you so much for all of that! A lot of help & explained enough for me to start learning
You sir have my first ever 'Thanks' on here.
steviewevie said:
If you look through the dev forum, you will find lots of custom ROMs. There are some custom ROMs based on the stock G2 ROM, and you may want to try one of those our (or possibly more than one of those).
What you need to do is to get permanent root on your phone (I recommend using the "rage" method, documented in the dev forum). Then you need to get S-OFF (Security Off) so that you can flash unsigned (i.e. custom) ROM images.
Originally there was a sort-of S-OFF using an "engineering" version of the bootloader. This was ok but kinda risky. We now have a much safer method, described in the stickes on the dev forum, using a program called "gfree". It now is clear you haven't used the engineering hboot, so just forget I ever mentioned that lol.
What I recommend you do is read up on "rage" and the new "gfree" S-OFF, read some more, ask questions if you're not sure, then only finally once you're clear, go ahead and do those procedures. Before you try another one, install ROM Manager from the Market, use it to flash Clockwork Recovery (it's an option inside ROM Manager), and then use it to do a full backup of your ROM - so that will mean if you don't like the new ROM you can very easily restore to what you have now.
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Quick question for you, Why do you recommend the 'rage' method over other methord's such as 'visionary'?
This topic http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=857390&highlight=gfree talks about using 'gfree' & 'visionary' & seams like a very easy & straight forward way of gaining root access.
n/m: Kinda kept reading over topics & found that some people have been having problems with visionary with partitions etc. Ill pass on it just in case!
Well i followed your advice, read up on every thing & i am know running [ROM] NO SENSE: 11/Nov 1.22.531.8 r1 - HTC Vision (G2/Z) Stock & am loving it!
Thank you so much! I have stock Android XD <3
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Quick question for you, Why do you recommend the 'rage' method over other methord's such as 'visionary'?
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n/m: Kinda kept reading over topics & found that some people have been having problems with visionary with partitions etc. Ill pass on it just in case!
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Yep, a lot of people seem to run Visionary and end up stuck in a boot loop or similar. I've never seen any problem like that with rage, the worst that seems to happen is it just doesn't work (but the phone is still fine), and that's usually because a command hasn't been typed in correctly or an error message came up and the user didn't realise it was important.
KarlosTheJackal said:
Well i followed your advice, read up on every thing & i am know running [ROM] NO SENSE: 11/Nov 1.22.531.8 r1 - HTC Vision (G2/Z) Stock & am loving it!
Thank you so much! I have stock Android XD <3
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Excellent ! Well done
how stable and fluid is this? i have CM6.1.1 right now and love it. and would like to try this soon but should i wait till another release to try it? thanks!
also, how big of an sd card can i put in the aria?
foreverzero89 said:
how stable and fluid is this? i have CM6.1.1 right now and love it. and would like to try this soon but should i wait till another release to try it? thanks!
also, how big of an sd card can i put in the aria?
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1. 32 GB
2. The vast majority of the nightlies have been stable. The RC is obviously going to be stable. Nandroid your CM6. If you don't like CM7 or find issues with it, restore CM6. Simple.
also when gong to a bigger sd card, can i just copy and paste all the files and have them work as before or is there something more i have to do?
thanks for any comments!
Again, will anymore of the 6.1.1 features like all the custom color pretences , eventually be put into the aria cm7 nightlys? Or are we now limited to this theme Chooser?
Feels like I'm hitting my self in the foot switching to cm7 without all of the 6.1.1 awesomeness.
(*)Perform a NANDroid backup of your current ROM.
[*]Format the system, data & cache partitions of your device.
[*]Perform a factory reset.
[*]Flash CyanogenMod.
[*]Optional: Install the Google Apps addon package.
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also when gong to a bigger sd card, can i just copy and paste all the files and have them work as before or is there something more i have to do?
thanks for any comments!
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Just make sure your new card is partitioned correctly and yes you can just copy and paste from old to new. When you install cm7 it will change whatever files it needs to automatically.
I've found cm7 to be very stable and have had no issues.
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cyanogenmod 7
so i just flashed my Aria, one question where is the market?
*EDIT*
I think i got it
thanks guys for the info.
1313inc said:
so i just flashed my Aria, one question where is the market?
*EDIT*
I think i got it
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lol, post number one of the RC thread in android development section has ALL the answers.
martiantakeover said:
Again, will anymore of the 6.1.1 features like all the custom color pretences , eventually be put into the aria cm7 nightlys? Or are we now limited to this theme Chooser?
Feels like I'm hitting my self in the foot switching to cm7 without all of the 6.1.1 awesomeness.
(*)Perform a NANDroid backup of your current ROM.
[*]Format the system, data & cache partitions of your device.
[*]Perform a factory reset.
[*]Flash CyanogenMod.
[*]Optional: Install the Google Apps addon package.
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I wouldn't say that the gapps are optional lmao...because then you'll have 300 people saying "wtf where's my market" k.
also, if they implement it they implement it. if they don't, they don't. if you're not happy with cm7 and are happy with cm6, then stick with cm6.
CM7>CM6 for sure.
Been using nightlys for a few weeks now and they are stable and fast. Very happy with cm7 but battery lasting only 3/4 of cm6
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CM7>CM6 for sure.
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Can anyone explain the major updates/improvements between 6.1 and 7?
I tried to look at the Changelog on github, but its beyond my comprehension. Also, does 7 have the ability to install apps on sd built in? I ask some references to problems with apps2sd in the cm7 thread.
Thanks.
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Can anyone explain the major updates/improvements between 6.1 and 7?
I tried to look at the Changelog on github, but its beyond my comprehension. Also, does 7 have the ability to install apps on sd built in? I ask some references to problems with apps2sd in the cm7 thread.
Thanks.
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Yes a2sd comes built in.
The problems you're reading about in the cm7 thread have to do with the DT a2sd, not the built in a2sd.
EDIT: I would like to point out that DT a2sd works great for me and i prefer it over the built in a2sd as you can move ANY app to sd and still use widgets etc.. Getting it up and running after a factory reset seems to take a couple tries. That is really the only problem people seem to have with it.
With the surge of some ROMs for our devices, and though they're related between each other to a certain degree (save for CM7), the inevitable question surges: which one has the upper hand? The stock ROM is vastly improved since 1.06 and Ganjaman's add-ons make it more mature, the MoDaCo ROM has the advantage of having been the first modded ROM, CyanogenMod7, thanks to Apache14's work, has made a stellar appearance and we actually get the official updates (such as the ones that mad-murdock presented us yesterday), Corvus has been updating his new ROM quite rapidly and it works nicely, like Fuji-Vega does... We're lucky that we're not in want of possible choices! But which is yours?
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For me corvus. It's so quick and stable, and is the only one, where's my usb 3g huawei running. Did I told you, that it's really fast?
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I agree totally, corvus is so quick. I can't wait until it can be combined with mad murdoch's HC tweaks, the vega will be Ninja then!
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great idea for a thread. I'm considering starting a thread on a similar line, thought id check in and avoid toe treading and see if there is a need for it.
As a newb to vega android modding, its great that there is such a wealth of info and advice, but sometimes its not clear or comprehensive (at least in one place! )
I'd like to run a "what vega setup is best for me" thread. The aim being to allow users to show exactly what setup they are running, how it performs, pro's and cons, bugs etc.
By using a standard template, we can see what works and why. We can make direct comparisons between setups without searching through threads for hours.
Users can then copy setups and try if they think they like it. Might also provide devs useful concise feedback to help them progress roms / kernels etc.
If it already exists, feel free to point me in the right direction whilst mocking my newbe stupidity, but ive read and re read the main threads and can't see it.
If you're reading this and think it would be useful, let me know, with suggestions and i'll get the ball rolling.
I.A.O.
Edit: if you want to help or collaborate, pm me.
I'm not sure how setting up a "standard configuration" would be of benefit. Primarily because of two issues: first, the same custom ROM can have dramatic performance differences between one device and the other (I am a ROM tester for Galaxy S, people claim battery lives of 4 days which I've never heard about); and second, the point of Android is that it actually doesn't force any standardisation as of now: I don't see why users would tend to a certain set up which has been done by another person instead of experimenting themselves.
Don't take me wrong, I appreciate that you take interest in this thread, but I fail to see the point of your suggestion. Android has no predefined "set-ups" as far as I know.
Yeah, i get your point. For me too its all about modding and tweaking. But i also got the impression that some people just want to get there device configured in a way that works for them quickly.
Im certainly Not saying lets all set up the same, if we wanted that we'd just bite the apple right!
I just think it would be useful to see at a glance what is working for people. I.e - "i need a rom with no lag on my vega - ah looks like cm7 ttrc2 has lag issues", without having to read 178 pages to find out.
I guess it would be more like an "at a glance" guide to roms for each device.
I used Modaco since i got my Mobii/Vega, but yesterday i flashed clockwork recovery and started using Titanium backup for real, so now i am testing some ROMs and sofar i like fuji-vega the most, fast and smooth, only some lag in appmenu when i have the device rooted.
I spent a long time using mcr8 eventually with buzz kernel but I then got bored and tried cm7 which I loved but just could not stand all the lag when scrolling etc.
I am now using corvus which seems to work well for me. I hope to switch back to cm7 when it improves a bit.
I love CM7 on my phone and would love it on the Vega, but the wifi troubles it has at this moment on the Vega made me switch to first Modaco and than Corvus. The only bad thing I can say about Corvus is that I personally would prefer Gingerbread green icons aboive the blue ones in Corvus
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I used Modaco since i got my Mobii/Vega, but yesterday i flashed clockwork recovery and started using Titanium backup for real, so now i am testing some ROMs and sofar i like fuji-vega the most, fast and smooth, only some lag in appmenu when i have the device rooted.
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I am in a similar position to you. I have only installed Modaco R8 and not really used Titanium Backup nor Clockwork Recovery. I find R8 lags after extended use (requiring a reboot) so I am interesting in changing to Corvus. I have a few questions.
What is the best way to move from Modaco to Corvus?
Can I use Clockwork Recovery/Titanium to ease the pain of transition?
How do I install CWR?
Is it best to go back to stock and then install Corvus? If so, will I lose all of my customisations?
Thanks in anticipation of a response.
What is the best way to move from Modaco to Corvus?
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I would do a Ti Backup of everything, then a nandroid backup before flashing.
Can I use Clockwork Recovery/Titanium to ease the pain of transition?
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Definitely use both of these, pay for Ti Backup to enable auto batch stuff
How do I install CWR?
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Try THIS thread
Is it best to go back to stock and then install Corvus? If so, will I lose all of my customisations?
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You would want to wipe when doing an install of a different rom anyway, so you will lose settings, most will be restored by Ti Backup though.
> I would do a Ti Backup of everything, then a nandroid backup before flashing.
Sorry, how do I do that? I have Modaco R8 with Titanium Backup installed. How do I use Ti to "backup everything", what is a "nandroid backup", and how do I restore stuff after installing a new ROM?
Cheers.
you can find this information quite easily by searching
ti backup press menu>batch>backup all user apps and system data
Then after installing cwm (download zip open
cd /path/to/folder
./install.sh for mac and linux (make sure to downlod my fixed scripts second post)
or
click install.bat for windows
then click recovery app use volume buttons and power to select backup and restore)
wipe data instal rom
ti backup from market
menu>batch>restore all user apps and system data (modaco is similar to corvus so should be safe to restore everything if things start crashing repeat install and untick all apps that are already installed in ti backup)
there you go you have transitioned
sorry if this sounds patronising it sounded like you were a noob so i included great detail
p.s. this will all become second nature after a while
hmmm atm i'm using CM7, and after switching to launcher pro it's so fast !!
adw launcher is such a crappy launcher (sry, my opinion)
anyways, my flash is pretty laggy due to the unstable nightly builds, I mean they're not in the fully power.. but I will wait, <3 cyanogem
I wish we had the HC update soon, rly =(
Ive been using Fuji-Vega since april and applying updates when they become available.
Really happy with it and cant complain. Does what i need it to do.
Very quick to use.
Corvus5 for me right now. it's stable and fast as, with oc I have been using cm7 until a few days ago and will no doubt give the latest a shot before the weekends gone, it now has oc kernel
I can't use custom ROMs because nor CM neither Corvus doesn't let my Huawei e150 connect to internet. When I'll solve this problem CM'll my choice.
CM7 for me. I've tried a few but CM7 just feels/looks slicker.
Will there ever be a fully working honeycomb rom?
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I finally decided to root my g2 but I'm quickly becoming overwhelmed with all the possible choices and information. This is what I'm looking for and hopefully somebody can tell me the simplest way to achieve it.
I want good gps and working Google talking navigation.
I need working wifi calling.
I want to safely over clock.
I am not overly concerned with appearance, i just want something that works well with no bugs. I've been using cm7 nightly on my nook color and I'm happy with it, but does cm play nice with gps now? I've read several threads about other roms and that's why I'm stuck. I really don't want to have to experiment with a dozen different setups. Thank you ahead of time!
Most ROMs in the dev section provide all 3 of those. Any custom ROM allows overclocking, nearly all provide WiFi calling (or you can add it later), and gapps provides your navigation/gps functionality.
You can read before installing whether or not there are known bugs (some AOSP ROMs have GPS issues), and then troubleshoot afterwards if you have issues.
Just be sure to back up with ROM manager before you flash, and you can always go back to the previous setup if you're unhappy with the way your chosen ROM performs for you.
I'd recommend the ROM in my signature to meet all of the needs you mentioned. It's fast, reliable, and has incredible support... essentially it's a moderately modded version of CM7.
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Be sure to follow the wiki for rooting its flawless.
As for rom choice I always, always end up back on CM7. Nothing beats its out of the box functionality and stability.
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I've used Virtuos Sense 2.0.0 and now I'm on InsertCoin Sense 2.1+3.0. Both are great and should fit your needs.
Basically, once you root your phone changing ROMs is easy so you can try different ones and see which you like best.
Thanks for the replies so far. If I get anything wrong or mistaken, please jump in and correct me:
From what I've read, I don't think I'd like any of the Miui-types, they seem more iPhone like than android and I really don't like the iphone.
CM7 is cm7, so it'd be the same on my G2 as my nook color, right? My NC has a built in overclock, I didn't have to add anything extra, is CM7 for the G2 the same?
I've read many threads about how good Virtuous is, but seems like just as many people say it's too resource intensive and slow. Comparing it to the stock Tmo 2.2 or 2.3, is it at least as good? Seems pointless to develop something if it's slower than stock. Is the Insertcoin just a variation of virtuous?
I'm intrigued by Dit's recommended rom, that may be my first choice to try.
I guess I'm really looking for a 1 stop shop, it took me a little while to get the market working on my NC. Do any of the mentioned rom's have everything from the start, or do I still need to add pieces (like gapps, or wifi calling) after installing the rom?
The other rom that has my interest is meXdroidMod, any opinions on it?
I've read many threads about how good Virtuous is, but seems like just as many people say it's too resource intensive and slow. Comparing it to the stock Tmo 2.2 or 2.3, is it at least as good? Seems pointless to develop something if it's slower than stock. Is the Insertcoin just a variation of virtuous?
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Virtuos Sense 2.0.0 is Sense 2.1, so it's not slower than stock (in fact it's faster, thanks to optimizations and Virtuos OC Daemon) and doesn't have any weird issues.
InsertCoin is developed by a different team and uses a different kernel (rmk), so I wouldn't call it a variation. It's also different in that it combines elements from Sense 2.1 and 3.0, while Virtuos ROMs are either full 2.1 or full 3.0.
i guess we all missed the main point here and is how to root lol heres the best guide for rooting your G2/Desire Z:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wik...sion#Rooting_the_Vision_.28G2.2FDZ.29_and_DHD
about the ROMs if you like CM7 go ahead and try it for, its the same as the one you have on your nook, and yes you can overclock without adding anything
about gps on cm7 most people have had trouble with it, but you just need to try cause i really never had any problems
Yea wipe efs before flashing, it will eliminate a lot of common issues with gps and such. Superwipe + will wipe everything well. Don't forget to flash recovery and do a nandroid backup! Also to make the transition easier backup with titanium backup pro. I use virtuous glite btw it looks stock except with light overclock and it is solid. Virtouos basically took the stock rom removed a lot of the bloat and overclocked and pre-rooted it. Works great my only hiccup was I had to grab the swpye beta apk. Aside from that I just restored my apps and I was away.
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Thanks for the replies so far. If I get anything wrong or mistaken, please jump in and correct me:
From what I've read, I don't think I'd like any of the Miui-types, they seem more iPhone like than android and I really don't like the iphone.
CM7 is cm7, so it'd be the same on my G2 as my nook color, right? My NC has a built in overclock, I didn't have to add anything extra, is CM7 for the G2 the same?
I've read many threads about how good Virtuous is, but seems like just as many people say it's too resource intensive and slow. Comparing it to the stock Tmo 2.2 or 2.3, is it at least as good? Seems pointless to develop something if it's slower than stock. Is the Insertcoin just a variation of virtuous?
I'm intrigued by Dit's recommended rom, that may be my first choice to try.
I guess I'm really looking for a 1 stop shop, it took me a little while to get the market working on my NC. Do any of the mentioned rom's have everything from the start, or do I still need to add pieces (like gapps, or wifi calling) after installing the rom?
The other rom that has my interest is meXdroidMod, any opinions on it?
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Gapps is embedded in the ILWT ROM, as is the EFS wipe tool, to help eliminate GPS issues (plus radio suggestions/info in the OP). Wifi Calling can also be added during ROM install. The OP gives all the info you could possibly need in his thread. Give it a thorough read... seems to cover all the things you've mentioned. And I've had nothing but best experience with it... been running it since nightly 186.
I've successfully rooted following the wiki, I was pretty nervous about screwing it up but everything went smoothly and exactly how it was written. I installed RomManager and flashed "clockworkmod recovery" and then clicked on "backup current rom" and it rebooted the phone and gave me several choices. I used the volume button to select "backup and restore" and selected that, and now it is showing me a screen with a top hat over an orange ring, it's just sitting there with no progress bars and no words. I was following the directions from this site:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2010/0...nandroid-backup-and-clockworkmod-rom-manager/
but it doesn't look like the screens on that site right now.
Is this supposed to happen, or did I somehow screw something up when I've barely gotten started?
You still need to flash a Recovery... you can do this through Rom Manager... but use version 3.0.2.4. Or, you could check out the Recovery in my signature. 4EXT Recovery... it's pretty wonderful. After you flash your chosen Recovery you will be able to make a NANDroid backup.
Misread your post. Yeah, you probably used the trackpad... sorry.
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Did you use the power button to select?Don't, use the trackpad
I thought clicking "flash clockworkmod recovery" was flashing a recovery? My big question is what do I do right now, as things seem locked up with just the hat/orange ring on the screen. It's been that way for about 5 minutes at least. Can I power off without hurting anything? And yes, I used power to select "backup/recover".
Press it again and then use the trackpad to scroll and select,that screen is like a screensaver so to speak.
Bombadier,
Many, many thanks to you, I was afraid I'd royally screwed up. If it wasn't for your help in my ADB thread I wouldn't have made it this far, many and much thanks!
No problems happy to of helped
Last question for the night, and sorry if this is a dumb newb question. Once a rom is flashed, what is the easiest, quickest way to reinstall all my old apps?
When you log into google your apps are synced,would recommend getting titanium backup though,a good app which can backup,restore apps,upload to dropbox,uninstall system apps very useful indeed
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Last question for the night, and sorry if this is a dumb newb question. Once a rom is flashed, what is the easiest, quickest way to reinstall all my old apps?
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Before you flash a new ROM, download "Titanium Backup" off the market and use the Menu button to select Batch. Do a backup of all your apps and data (not system data), and when you flash a new ROM, reinstall Titanium, select Batch mode again, and restore all missing apps and data.