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PHM v5 soon to be available for Mogul! Overclocking the 6800!

I just stumbled on this recent thread where the master of PHM himself stated that he is currently working on version 5 of PHM and that it will support the msm 7500 chipset. Hopefully be available by March.
He stated that he will also keep an updated blog with entries regarding the progress of the project.
I'm so excited i think i just pooped. -it's ok, I'm actually sitting on he toilet while posting this. Man I love this phone!

oops! sorry, here's the link to the thread..
http://www.wizcode.com/forums/viewthread/109/

hah that's my favorite thing to do, poop while browsing on the mogul. do you think it'll help our ram issues out?
sandiegodude said:
I just stumbled on this recent thread where the master of PHM himself stated that he is currently working on version 5 of PHM and that it will support the msm 7500 chipset. Hopefully be available by March.
He stated that he will also keep an updated blog with entries regarding the progress of the project.
I'm so excited i think i just pooped. -it's ok, I'm actually sitting on he toilet while posting this. Man I love this phone!
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I don't know if pooping will but PHM will make apps opn, close, and respond very fast compared to stock speeds. The only thing that makes me weary of OC'ing the Mogul compared to the success of the 6700 is the fact that the 6700's chip is actually an underclocked 624mhz. In regards to the 6700, PHM actually lifted the "speed governor" so we can use it at 624mhz instead of 416Mhz or whatever its shipped speed was. With the Qualcomm msm7500, on the otherhand, we will literally be overclocking. I don't see the huge performance boost of 50+% we saw on the 6700 applicable to the mogul,vogue,touch,etc.
I sure hope that I am wrong though!
I wonder if seido will team up with Xstatic and will release a liquid cooling heatsing for this thing. even a 10mm casefan in the back would be fine with me (as long as it's ladled with ghostly internal LED's)
Woohoo... MaximumPC rig of the month in PPC formfactor! I'm getting silly, I'll stop now.

Now I get it. I was wondering how the heck people drop their phones in the toilet.

There's no way you can safely, significantly, overclock the Titan. Maybe by a little bit, sure. But if you tried to do a major overclock, you'll likely end up getting freezes, or worse, frying something. This isnt like a PC where you can put more cooling fans or whatever.
Still, will be interesting to tinker around a bit

Whats that smell ... oh ... that was my mogul.

sol740 said:
Whats that smell ... oh ... that was my mogul.
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Now are you referring to the overclocking thing or the toilet thing?

rajuabju said:
Still, will be interesting to tinker around a bit
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Now are YOU referring to the overclocking thing or the toilet thing?

any updates?

http://www.wizcode.com/devblog
No word yet

Here's the newest thread regarding the topic
http://www.wizcode.com/forums/viewthread/95/

That is going to be so ****ing sick!

I ran across a cab called "htc performance" that supposedly does overclocking. Has anyone tried i and what did you think?

old_school_dave said:
I ran across a cab called "htc performance" that supposedly does overclocking. Has anyone tried i and what did you think?
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i heard its mainly a placebo effect for the titan

old_school_dave said:
I ran across a cab called "htc performance" that supposedly does overclocking. Has anyone tried i and what did you think?
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I've used it on my sprint mogul with no luck. Doesn't work.

I dont want to overclock,the mogul overheats badly enough as it is. What I want to do is underclock,at least when I dont need speed. That would solve so many problems.

V5 Update
http://www.wizcode.com/forums/viewthread/253/

July came and went with no update, oh well.

X1 CPU Overclock

Hi,
I was wondering if this was possible, I know its early days for many people with the X1 handset and this may be in the wrong part of the forum, but could someone please advise if this is possible/being worked on?
Thanks,
Phil Rich

I honestly haven't seen it being possible to overclock any HTC phone since like the wizard. I must admit though it would always be nice to get a little extra speed and with this great battery we might be able to get more speed without completely ruining the battery life.

any tool which can overclock qualcomm cpu's should work
search around diamond/kaiser and other devices with the same cpu

I thought the kaiser wasn't overclockable??? If it was i'm gonna be pissed that i didn't do it.

kevinrirvine said:
no NEED TO GET PISSED FOR THE MOD IS WRONG HERE. IT is not possible as of yet to overclock any qualcomm processor period. Pocket hack master and xcpuscaler still don't support this processor type.
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xcpuscalar does support qualcomm chipsets, I used to use it on my athena to run at full speed without scaling on occasion, and had it up to 663 (I think) a few times (but it wasn't stable), or was that something else..

wow, somebody's on a lovely rant night..
From what I know, no overclocking for qualcomm, but Rudegar may well be right, he doesnt have 8K posts for no reason.
Plus, te Athena has an Intex CPU
Also, no need to have a go at people if they get something wrong (or they do in your oninion)

Stress Levels...
Well I never knew this topic would create such a stir, it was only a quick question after all it would be nice to have maybe just a little more power. Had my X1 (Vodafone UK) for 5 days now and even though its a bit tempremental at times all in all its a sweet handset.

some ppl just dont know how to behave

philrich1 said:
Well I never knew this topic would create such a stir, it was only a quick question after all it would be nice to have maybe just a little more power. Had my X1 (Vodafone UK) for 5 days now and even though its a bit tempremental at times all in all its a sweet handset.
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As much as i love windows mobile, have you ever had a device that /wasn't/ tempremental?

itje said:
some ppl just dont know how to behave
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i am sorry you feel this way for i was only speaking the truth and expressing my thoughts. i did not realize my comment to someone who had no clue what he was talking about would create such a stir. i am sorry to you and anyone else i may have offended. Kevin

kevinrirvine said:
i did not realize my comment to someone who had no clue what he was talking about would create such a stir. i am sorry to you and anyone else i may have offended. Kevin
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just out of curiousity...do you get excited when you touch a stylus?

lol - very amusing thread

welllll is any qualcomm insider gonna step in and write up an app pleeeaaaazzzzzzzzzzzzeeee?!?!?!? lol

I Second This
Maybe someone should consider this, it always worth a try. Maybe its still early days, the hacks are not abundant enough.

kevinrirvine said:
You owned an Athena, aka Advantage, and did not even know the cpu/processor it used? Sad. Intel is much different than Qualcomm so please do not post unless you know what your talking about. Again, THE QUALCOMM CPU ANY VERSION CANNOT BE OVERCLOCKED.
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Weird that, how you obviously know so much about what other people do...
I suggest you read what I posted before going off on a morose rant.
Shall I quote myself so that you can read it again, maybe I'll resort to childish behaviour and do everything in CAPS LOCK TO PROVE WHAT A COOL DUDE I AM .
I said you can overclock the qualcomm chipsets, I didn't mention CPU at all, mainly because I misread what you'd posted (small screen jolting bus ride etc) and thought you said you couldn't overclock a qualcomm based chipset.

Mind the Language people.

Eris Overclock?

Hi guys, reading up on the Eris a little (I have a Moto Droid as my main phone). Got it rooted with 2.1 and flashed over Evil Eris and the LWP/Launcher2 updates and it seems pretty good so far! My question is when is overclocking going to be coming to this phone? Had my Droid clocked at 1.25GHz and it was rockin'! I didn't see a thread on it here (yes, I did search!) so I thought I would make one.
Thanks!

We need HTC to release the 2.1 kernel source first. Can't do any overclocking without that.
Send them an email to nag them.

Apparently No one has modified the system kernals on anything so far, so over clocking isn't available yet... I'm sure a dev is working on it though...

GrdLock said:
We need HTC to release the 2.1 kernel source first. Can't do any overclocking without that.
Send them an email to nag them.
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you know it.

Of course the .27 kernel source is available, we've tried that kernel with 2.1 and it doesn't work right, and would take a lot of work to get working right, then more work to overclock. Not worth it really. We need the newer .29 source.

In the weeks ahead I will backport all the drivers from .29 to .27 needed to make it all but camera fully functional as I did with the heroc and have began doing for the gsm hero. Overclockin to 700mhz is possible for the turbo msm7k devices. I have a patch to enable it but there is some sort of conflict in the kernel that sops it from booting. Ramconsole shows it setting the desired clocks but then that's just the end of it. No more messages after that. The source is proven to work on all msm7k CPUs and it just seems to have an issue with something HTC added to our source. I haven't had much time to play with it but I've started a thread on it in the cdma hero forum. U can check there for more details on it. The patch I posted will apply clean to the Eris kernel source and all instructions are there for how to set it up. Anyone who wants to try and see what's causing it not to boot is welcome to. All I ask OS u post it findings in that thread as I would like to get it working and I always share my soutce, findings, and work. I just ask for others to do the same.

source code is easier than you might think
ok since android is linux and therefor open source htc is law bound to give you any source code you want as long as you ask them so if you really want it all you have to do is request it

rrmimms said:
ok since android is linux and therefor open source htc is law bound to give you any source code you want as long as you ask them so if you really want it all you have to do is request it
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But, if the version isn't officially released, in regaurds to the Eris, do they still have to release that sourse code?

trav473 said:
But, if the version isn't officially released, in regaurds to the Eris, do they still have to release that sourse code?
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Just wait maybe 2 days, it will apparently be released very soon.

CPCookieMan said:
Just wait maybe 2 days, it will apparently be released very soon.
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Supposedly the Hero update will hit April 26th. At least that's what engadget says, so we should also have our update around that time. My guess would be either the same day or slightly later because they keep referring to the Hero and not the Eris.

sms440 said:
Supposedly the Hero update will hit April 26th. At least that's what engadget says, so we should also have our update around that time. My guess would be either the same day or slightly later because they keep referring to the Hero and not the Eris.
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i would say with in a week
the latest leak 3/24 is solid its release material if you ask me
i dont see vzw taking much longer than a week

jamezelle said:
i would say with in a week
the latest leak 3/24 is solid its release material if you ask me
i dont see vzw taking much longer than a week
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I sure hope so.

ok sorry if this is going off topic but i was just curious as to if when overclocking is possible if it is dangerous or risky to overclock i heard u can burn out ur phone if u overclock it too much.

Dizzy_Dez said:
ok sorry if this is going off topic but i was just curious as to if when overclocking is possible if it is dangerous or risky to overclock i heard u can burn out ur phone if u overclock it too much.
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that is possible with most things your overclock. you have to find a nice balance between temp, voltage, and speed. Generally, overclocked cpus tend to have a shorter lifespan. I am not sure on the eris overclocking time frame. I think we need the kernel first?

ch4sethe5un said:
that is possible with most things your overclock. you have to find a nice balance between temp, voltage, and speed. Generally, overclocked cpus tend to have a shorter lifespan. I am not sure on the eris overclocking time frame. I think we need the kernel first?
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yeah the cpu in the eris is the same as the hero cpu. ive been working on overclocking the heroc for some time now. the truth is that it can be overclocked to 700mhz max and winmo guys are already doing this. they found a sweet spot with our same cpu in their devices around 600mhz some go a little more. ive been usingtheir work along with my own skills and trying to get it working on native android devices. such as the hero and the eris. its a pain but i believe it can be done. im using the .27 kernel source for the heroc btw. ive managed to port all but the camera driver from .29 to .27. making itfully functional except camera. my hope is to get this working in .27 and possibly merge my changes into .29 6 months from now when HTC feels froggy anyhow yeah u can go and view all my threads ive started and a older patch is on my OC thread, in case anyone here has some C skills. fel free to contact me if u have any questions on it. i havent released my current patch as it isnt finished and im not so sure itll do much more then the one i posted on my thread.

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yeah the cpu in the eris is the same as the hero cpu. ive been working on overclocking the heroc for some time now. the truth is that it can be overclocked to 700mhz max and winmo guys are already doing this. they found a sweet spot with our same cpu in their devices around 600mhz some go a little more. ive been usingtheir work along with my own skills and trying to get it working on native android devices. such as the hero and the eris. its a pain but i believe it can be done. im using the .27 kernel source for the heroc btw. ive managed to port all but the camera driver from .29 to .27. making itfully functional except camera. my hope is to get this working in .27 and possibly merge my changes into .29 6 months from now when HTC feels froggy anyhow yeah u can go and view all my threads ive started and a older patch is on my OC thread, in case anyone here has some C skills. fel free to contact me if u have any questions on it. i havent released my current patch as it isnt finished and im not so sure itll do much more then the one i posted on my thread.
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Awesome info! I was just wondering what it could be OC'd too if anyone knew. Good to know the same chip is in other phones so you know what they've pushed it too. What does it run stock? I don't think I've seen it posted anywhere.

So SetCPU doesn't work properly on the Eris, right? I had it running for a while but it always said min = 480, max = 528, no matter what I set it to. Also, the battery was draining FAST! It would die in about 10 hours. I turned it off today and it was at 80% battery left after 10 hours and I didn't notice any difference in performance.

piercedtiger said:
Awesome info! I was just wondering what it could be OC'd too if anyone knew. Good to know the same chip is in other phones so you know what they've pushed it too. What does it run stock? I don't think I've seen it posted anywhere.
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528mhz is stock, 700mhz is max supported. Sweet spot seems to around 600mhz. Battery drain won't be a massive issue as long as we can still use freq scaling

toastcfh said:
528mhz is stock, 700mhz is max supported. Sweet spot seems to around 600mhz. Battery drain won't be a massive issue as long as we can still use freq scaling
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thanks. That would speed things up a little.

Anyone know what effect this will have to games, and live wallpapers?

Cpu speeds after root

Wanted to start a thread so we can start tracking successful overclocks and underclocks.

tried setcpu, gave it su permissions, but dont have a setcpu.txt file for applicable speeds. tried to put droid speeds on it, but it somereason refuses to set?

kingofyo1 said:
tried setcpu, gave it su permissions, but dont have a setcpu.txt file for applicable speeds. tried to put droid speeds on it, but it somereason refuses to set?
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did you autodetect?

after autodetect it gives a max of 600mhz ...
isn't that stock?

Pull it from Wes's github. He has it up to 998 from the looks of it
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mtjnkee said:
Pull it from Wes's github. He has it up to 998 from the looks of it
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please explain =)

mtjnkee said:
Pull it from Wes's github. He has it up to 998 from the looks of it
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how exactly do we do that and apply it?

Need some good instructions on this please, links would be helpful
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I thought there was a big hullaballoo over the G1 and overclocking and it was discovered that unless there's a kernel-level modification, the overclock widget doesn't actually overclock beyond the max the kernel says it can go(like, it will SAY it's OC'd but will still be running at stock)? Maybe the same kind of hack can be used from the G1 since it's still an ARM11 processor? Sorry about my non-specific rambling, I only have a very rudimentary understanding of this >.>
Perhaps a couple threads on the matter will help. These are threads about the actual kernel modification/hack that allows the OC'ing on the G1:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=666850
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=679033
FWIW, there's no OC'ing on the Legend yet, and it uses the same processor as our beloved MTS. I'd love to be able to get more out of this device though, hope we see it soon
EDIT: It's also worth mentioning that in the beginning of the G1's life when people were "overclocking" it to 528mhz, it wasn't actually overclocking. It was only that the processor was UNDERclocked by the stock software to 300-something mhz and we were overriding it back up to the intended max speed of the processor, 528mhz. Only recently have people truly started OC'ing it beyond that with these kernel hacks. On the MTS, I appears that it STARTS at 600mhz, which is already the max intended speed of the processor. So if we want more we'll need these kernel hacks. I'm hoping we'll be able to get at least 800mhz and still be stable <3

it took the g1 a good deal of time to have one too right?

If some good developers come soon it should be possible to overclock the kernal maybe try porting from the hero that has many overclocked kernals thanks to behnaam

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Hope you dont mind Wes
This is what i was speaking of. It looks like he is already working on it. i'm not a dev but i can tell that this rom in the making is going to come with some yummies.

thanks for the heads up man, I'm no dev either but that sounds awesome. I'm hoping to overclock this bad boy and get him just flying (not that he isn't already). I was searching for the power profile already on the Slide to see if it's possible to just rewrite the current file, but I can't seem to find exactly what I'm lookin for. Guess I'll just wait for a ROM update

The real trick will be to do what we did to the nexus . overclock undervolt
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I am bored and I want to root my desire.... BUT?

Update: attempting root, flash etc... help a brother out, lol
I keep editing my last post for problems I am finding, thx

what i've seen so far are other way round, that is rooting could make you unable to get OTA updates..
you can find rooting guides and roms in development section

descenpet said:
what i've seen so far are other way round, that is rooting could make you unable to get OTA updates..
you can find rooting guides and roms in development section
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I noticed u are from SG.. have u got the DHD yet or still waiting like the rest of us?
To the TS, there's a good sticky in the DHD Android Dev section, the very first thread by Ivo.. u should read that.

lukesky said:
I noticed u are from SG.. have u got the DHD yet or still waiting like the rest of us?
To the TS, there's a good sticky in the DHD Android Dev section, the very first thread by Ivo.. u should read that.
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still waiting.. my contract is 10days away from 1 year so i still can't recontract anyway. if still not out in 2 weeks, will be sad though

Mr.Kakarot said:
I read somewhere that the OTA could possibly stop me from rooting my phone? Is there somewhere/something specific I should check before I make the attempt?
With the help of this forum, I did get into rooting my nexus one... and flashing often... but if someone could point me to a proper how to.... and a known solid rom/kernel....
I would appreciate it, thx in advance
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LeeDriOD 1.2 custom rom
Apache 1.5ghz OC kernel
Watch your phone fly haha..
You will need the following to flash..
PermRoot
S OFF
Android sdk..adb/fastboot
Clockwork Mod..
Enjoy...All stock DHD are awful compared to a custom one haha...if i had to go back to stock id sell my phone..
Quadrant 3097
Linpack 54.147
Neocore 58.7
You get the picture
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rixsta said:
LeeDriOD 1.2 custom rom
Apache 1.5ghz OC kernel
*****
Enjoy...All stock DHD are awful compared to a custom one haha...if i had to go back to stock id sell my phone..
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Got the same setup on my DHD and it is quite responsive.
Although stock DHD is pretty much ok i.m.o.
On topic: read the dev forum, a lot of info is there already

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this is quite OT, but I was wondering how come DHDs overclocked to 1.5Ghz can achieve 3k+ Quadrant scores but the G2 needs to be OCed to 1.8 or 1.9Ghz to achieve similar scores? The extra RAM of the DHD makes so much difference?

Well its a different processor, not just lower clocked.
I dont know the specs off the top of my head but i would guess it has smaller caches. That does make a difference. I doubt ram comes into it for most of the benchmarks.

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Got the same setup on my DHD and it is quite responsive.
Although stock DHD is pretty much ok i.m.o.
On topic: read the dev forum, a lot of info is there already
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thx for the input, I know reading is a good thing... problem is, there is 100 threads.... I just need to know where to start to achieve root, then a suggested person to follow.... one that addresses issues fast, has the latest greatest etc
I will start reading and flashing tonight! thx

Mr.Kakarot said:
thx for the input, I know reading is a good thing... problem is, there is 100 threads.... I just need to know where to start to achieve root, then a suggested person to follow.... one that addresses issues fast, has the latest greatest etc
I will start reading and flashing tonight! thx
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An excellent thread showing where to find what, including instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846248
To root, S-off & flash Clockwork mod:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841076
Custom Rom example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842802
Overclock kernel example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835616
Good luck

thx for that, I had a brutal day at work... and then I had a very, very late "tour" at a correctional facility..... so i did not get to any of this. Hopefully tomorrow.... I absolutely love this phone and case..... my windows 7 phone came today... and wifi compared to wife.... the dhd destroys it.... not to mention... things look normal on the dhd... on the w7p, it looks like crap until you zoom in... I just wanted to try the phone for myself, lol
so for me, it all comes down to 2g vs 3g.... dhd is better has down, for many things and reasons..... but the 2g vs 3g is causing me turmoil... oh well, once I root and see the goodness... maybe it will be a much easier decision

brb almost done

paulus_01 said:
An excellent thread showing where to find what, including instructions:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=846248
To root, S-off & flash Clockwork mod:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=841076
Custom Rom example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=842802
Overclock kernel example:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=835616
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Not going to lie, I had NO idea what I was doing... but I think I just stumbled through it all.....
are the kernels dangerous.... how can I test/check to see if it is worthwhile.... will they drain the battery even more so? thx

Depending what kernel and what clock speed you set, you should be able to underclock to around 700 +/- mhz and not have any noticeable slow downs.
Just make sure you set a lower speed when your screen is off and you battery will last upwards of 24 hours.

thx, I just that 1.51 one for now.... seems to be working well, I put a profile in for screen off.... dropping it to 256-756 or whatever it is! did some light benching, angry birds, no lag or issues so far.... woke up and the phone is still alive, lol
thx