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X1 CPU Overclock

Hi,
I was wondering if this was possible, I know its early days for many people with the X1 handset and this may be in the wrong part of the forum, but could someone please advise if this is possible/being worked on?
Thanks,
Phil Rich

I honestly haven't seen it being possible to overclock any HTC phone since like the wizard. I must admit though it would always be nice to get a little extra speed and with this great battery we might be able to get more speed without completely ruining the battery life.

any tool which can overclock qualcomm cpu's should work
search around diamond/kaiser and other devices with the same cpu

I thought the kaiser wasn't overclockable??? If it was i'm gonna be pissed that i didn't do it.

kevinrirvine said:
no NEED TO GET PISSED FOR THE MOD IS WRONG HERE. IT is not possible as of yet to overclock any qualcomm processor period. Pocket hack master and xcpuscaler still don't support this processor type.
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xcpuscalar does support qualcomm chipsets, I used to use it on my athena to run at full speed without scaling on occasion, and had it up to 663 (I think) a few times (but it wasn't stable), or was that something else..

wow, somebody's on a lovely rant night..
From what I know, no overclocking for qualcomm, but Rudegar may well be right, he doesnt have 8K posts for no reason.
Plus, te Athena has an Intex CPU
Also, no need to have a go at people if they get something wrong (or they do in your oninion)

Stress Levels...
Well I never knew this topic would create such a stir, it was only a quick question after all it would be nice to have maybe just a little more power. Had my X1 (Vodafone UK) for 5 days now and even though its a bit tempremental at times all in all its a sweet handset.

some ppl just dont know how to behave

philrich1 said:
Well I never knew this topic would create such a stir, it was only a quick question after all it would be nice to have maybe just a little more power. Had my X1 (Vodafone UK) for 5 days now and even though its a bit tempremental at times all in all its a sweet handset.
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As much as i love windows mobile, have you ever had a device that /wasn't/ tempremental?

itje said:
some ppl just dont know how to behave
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i am sorry you feel this way for i was only speaking the truth and expressing my thoughts. i did not realize my comment to someone who had no clue what he was talking about would create such a stir. i am sorry to you and anyone else i may have offended. Kevin

kevinrirvine said:
i did not realize my comment to someone who had no clue what he was talking about would create such a stir. i am sorry to you and anyone else i may have offended. Kevin
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just out of curiousity...do you get excited when you touch a stylus?

lol - very amusing thread

welllll is any qualcomm insider gonna step in and write up an app pleeeaaaazzzzzzzzzzzzeeee?!?!?!? lol

I Second This
Maybe someone should consider this, it always worth a try. Maybe its still early days, the hacks are not abundant enough.

kevinrirvine said:
You owned an Athena, aka Advantage, and did not even know the cpu/processor it used? Sad. Intel is much different than Qualcomm so please do not post unless you know what your talking about. Again, THE QUALCOMM CPU ANY VERSION CANNOT BE OVERCLOCKED.
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Weird that, how you obviously know so much about what other people do...
I suggest you read what I posted before going off on a morose rant.
Shall I quote myself so that you can read it again, maybe I'll resort to childish behaviour and do everything in CAPS LOCK TO PROVE WHAT A COOL DUDE I AM .
I said you can overclock the qualcomm chipsets, I didn't mention CPU at all, mainly because I misread what you'd posted (small screen jolting bus ride etc) and thought you said you couldn't overclock a qualcomm based chipset.

Mind the Language people.

Can't have it all I guess? (Not really a rant thread)

Hello xda-ers!
I have been stalking around, tasting everybody's cooking for a couple of weeks now, and i have got to get something off my chest.
I did search, I do realize that what I am looking for can not be made and that its no one's fault (I might be giving htc a meaningful look right now).
I like a whole lot of roms and chefs here, I really do, but the rom I'm after seems to not exist - one of two options:
1. A hero rom with all the eyecandy, that's donut based for compatibility with newer apps like goggles and the like.
2. An Eclair rom that has video and youtube working.
And so I would like to ask of you wizzies, is there light at the end of the tunnel? Are things comming around? How do you see it?
Correct me if I'm wrong, hardware-ish the mytouch is 36 MB of ram shorter then a hero and a has a lesser camera, but its not like the hero is running its os on its last bits of ram or anything so basically what the hero can do the mytouch can do, no? Is it safe to assume that when the hero\magic gets an update (and I do hope that it does) someone could pull over some driver support for eclair or something?
Thank you all so much for all your hard work, you guys are the reason I love smartphones so much, I'm dirt poor but i promise I'll buy you guys a round of beer once I get out of college

Its a matter of time bro. Be batient. A month ago, none of the eclair roms had camera. Now they all do. A month before that none of the eclair roms had N1 voice keyboard. Now they all do. God knows what some of these amazing roms will have and do a month from now. [/good deed for the year]

Love the FAQ sig lol

mnissan said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, hardware-ish the mytouch is 36 MB of ram shorter then a hero and a has a lesser camera, but its not like the hero is running its os on its last bits of ram or anything so basically what the hero can do the mytouch can do, no? Is it safe to assume that when the hero\magic gets an update (and I do hope that it does) someone could pull over some driver support for eclair or something?
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What?
MT3G has 192MB Ram just like Dream but has 512 ROM like Hero.Hero has 288MB RAM.

Macrophage001 said:
Love the FAQ sig lol
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^5 to you bro

mnissan said:
1. A hero rom with all the eyecandy, that's donut based for compatibility with newer apps like goggles and the like.
2. An Eclair rom that has video and youtube working.
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1. The devs aren't the ones making the actual hero, they just make hero work with our phones. They can't just say "I want you to be donut", and it be donut. Htc decided to skip donut, and the devs can't do much about that. They can however give you 2.0 hero which is scattered about the forum.
2. Drivers, drivers, drivers. You know, the thing that appears in almost every first post for this problem

JAguirre1231 said:
1. The devs aren't the ones making the actual hero, they just make hero work with our phones. They can't just say "I want you to be donut", and it be donut. Htc decided to skip donut, and the devs can't do much about that. They can however give you 2.0 hero which is scattered about the forum.
2. Drivers, drivers, drivers. You know, the thing that appears in almost every first post for this problem
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As I've said, I realize that.
My point is that apperently you can't cook rosie\sense\whatever onto a 1.6 rom without htc (Ref: "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look") and at the same time you can cook it onto a 2.0 rom - which means broken video drivers.
I'm sure there's a good reason for it, and this is not a rant, just needed to let steam out I guess.

mnissan said:
As I've said, I realize that.
My point is that apperently you can't cook rosie\sense\whatever onto a 1.6 rom without htc (Ref: "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look") and at the same time you can cook it onto a 2.0 rom - which means broken video drivers.
I'm sure there's a good reason for it, and this is not a rant, just needed to let steam out I guess.
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Well steam out in the right section next time

JAguirre1231 said:
Well steam out in the right section next time
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LOL +2000
"if" you had searched you could have found answers to both of your questions... and maybe posted in the correct section.
maybe that "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look" should be turned into "i actually searched and posted in the Q&A section or the I didn't read before posting..."
No offence but seriously if you would have searched you would have found those 2 answers in almost every thread that had to do with hero or eclair...

mnissan said:
As I've said, I realize that.
My point is that apperently you can't cook rosie\sense\whatever onto a 1.6 rom without htc (Ref: "I might be giving HTC a meaningful look") and at the same time you can cook it onto a 2.0 rom - which means broken video drivers.
I'm sure there's a good reason for it, and this is not a rant, just needed to let steam out I guess.
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I think someone leaked an HTC branded Eclair ROM with the "rosie/sense/whatever," and that's why you see it cooked into a 2.0 ROM.

Bless him, don't be to hard its obvious he needs a carer

shadowch31 said:
Bless him, don't be to hard its obvious he needs a carer
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Im sorry if i hurt anyones feelings....uh not really but serious on the searching!
if i did hurt your feelings feel free to express your feelings to someone else because either you are too sensitive or it my be that time of month... use the Ipad and get over it!
Have a GREAT DAY!

Sxyman815 said:
Im sorry if i hurt anyones feelings....uh not really but serious on the searching!
if i did hurt your feelings feel free to express your feelings to someone else because either you are too sensitive or it my be that time of month... use the Ipad and get over it!
Have a GREAT DAY!
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iTampon's come with strings for easy removal.

JAguirre1231 said:
iTampon's come with strings for easy removal.
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iAlwaysPantyLiners come with wings!

Well, this has gone off topic very quickly. Not that it was technically on topic to begin with since it was posted in the wrong place...

fiktion said:
Well, this has gone off topic very quickly. Not that it was technically on topic to begin with since it was posted in the wrong place...
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It went off topic at the same rate the iPad went from wanted to ridiculed. What's so bad about that?

Well back on topic/kinda...
Do we know for sure that htc will release the necessary drivers for video playback/camera? It sounds like some people are positive we'll get them eventually...I switched back to donut because I like being able to watch youtube, but its amazing how far along eclair roms have come, and mad props to NCommander for reverse engineering the camera drivers. Without him we'd still have no camera at this point. But I was just wondering if its confirmed or not that we will indeed get those drivers from htc one day.

Well, T-Mobile is teasing us with an Eclair update for our phones. We shall see.

What I would REALLY like is a ROM that is smooth and as responsive and the one on the iPhone. Doesn't need fancy apps, just the basic things like Messaging, Phone, Browser, camera/camcorder, apps of course. Anyone else think the same? It's what I have been looking for , for a long time

Snipe175 said:
What I would REALLY like is a ROM that is smooth and as responsive and the one on the iPhone. Doesn't need fancy apps, just the basic things like Messaging, Phone, Browser, camera/camcorder, apps of course. Anyone else think the same? It's what I have been looking for , for a long time
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There's actually one like that, it's called iPhone OS. I suggest you buy an iPhone and try it

Eris Overclock?

Hi guys, reading up on the Eris a little (I have a Moto Droid as my main phone). Got it rooted with 2.1 and flashed over Evil Eris and the LWP/Launcher2 updates and it seems pretty good so far! My question is when is overclocking going to be coming to this phone? Had my Droid clocked at 1.25GHz and it was rockin'! I didn't see a thread on it here (yes, I did search!) so I thought I would make one.
Thanks!

We need HTC to release the 2.1 kernel source first. Can't do any overclocking without that.
Send them an email to nag them.

Apparently No one has modified the system kernals on anything so far, so over clocking isn't available yet... I'm sure a dev is working on it though...

GrdLock said:
We need HTC to release the 2.1 kernel source first. Can't do any overclocking without that.
Send them an email to nag them.
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you know it.

Of course the .27 kernel source is available, we've tried that kernel with 2.1 and it doesn't work right, and would take a lot of work to get working right, then more work to overclock. Not worth it really. We need the newer .29 source.

In the weeks ahead I will backport all the drivers from .29 to .27 needed to make it all but camera fully functional as I did with the heroc and have began doing for the gsm hero. Overclockin to 700mhz is possible for the turbo msm7k devices. I have a patch to enable it but there is some sort of conflict in the kernel that sops it from booting. Ramconsole shows it setting the desired clocks but then that's just the end of it. No more messages after that. The source is proven to work on all msm7k CPUs and it just seems to have an issue with something HTC added to our source. I haven't had much time to play with it but I've started a thread on it in the cdma hero forum. U can check there for more details on it. The patch I posted will apply clean to the Eris kernel source and all instructions are there for how to set it up. Anyone who wants to try and see what's causing it not to boot is welcome to. All I ask OS u post it findings in that thread as I would like to get it working and I always share my soutce, findings, and work. I just ask for others to do the same.

source code is easier than you might think
ok since android is linux and therefor open source htc is law bound to give you any source code you want as long as you ask them so if you really want it all you have to do is request it

rrmimms said:
ok since android is linux and therefor open source htc is law bound to give you any source code you want as long as you ask them so if you really want it all you have to do is request it
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But, if the version isn't officially released, in regaurds to the Eris, do they still have to release that sourse code?

trav473 said:
But, if the version isn't officially released, in regaurds to the Eris, do they still have to release that sourse code?
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Just wait maybe 2 days, it will apparently be released very soon.

CPCookieMan said:
Just wait maybe 2 days, it will apparently be released very soon.
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Supposedly the Hero update will hit April 26th. At least that's what engadget says, so we should also have our update around that time. My guess would be either the same day or slightly later because they keep referring to the Hero and not the Eris.

sms440 said:
Supposedly the Hero update will hit April 26th. At least that's what engadget says, so we should also have our update around that time. My guess would be either the same day or slightly later because they keep referring to the Hero and not the Eris.
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i would say with in a week
the latest leak 3/24 is solid its release material if you ask me
i dont see vzw taking much longer than a week

jamezelle said:
i would say with in a week
the latest leak 3/24 is solid its release material if you ask me
i dont see vzw taking much longer than a week
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I sure hope so.

ok sorry if this is going off topic but i was just curious as to if when overclocking is possible if it is dangerous or risky to overclock i heard u can burn out ur phone if u overclock it too much.

Dizzy_Dez said:
ok sorry if this is going off topic but i was just curious as to if when overclocking is possible if it is dangerous or risky to overclock i heard u can burn out ur phone if u overclock it too much.
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that is possible with most things your overclock. you have to find a nice balance between temp, voltage, and speed. Generally, overclocked cpus tend to have a shorter lifespan. I am not sure on the eris overclocking time frame. I think we need the kernel first?

ch4sethe5un said:
that is possible with most things your overclock. you have to find a nice balance between temp, voltage, and speed. Generally, overclocked cpus tend to have a shorter lifespan. I am not sure on the eris overclocking time frame. I think we need the kernel first?
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yeah the cpu in the eris is the same as the hero cpu. ive been working on overclocking the heroc for some time now. the truth is that it can be overclocked to 700mhz max and winmo guys are already doing this. they found a sweet spot with our same cpu in their devices around 600mhz some go a little more. ive been usingtheir work along with my own skills and trying to get it working on native android devices. such as the hero and the eris. its a pain but i believe it can be done. im using the .27 kernel source for the heroc btw. ive managed to port all but the camera driver from .29 to .27. making itfully functional except camera. my hope is to get this working in .27 and possibly merge my changes into .29 6 months from now when HTC feels froggy anyhow yeah u can go and view all my threads ive started and a older patch is on my OC thread, in case anyone here has some C skills. fel free to contact me if u have any questions on it. i havent released my current patch as it isnt finished and im not so sure itll do much more then the one i posted on my thread.

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yeah the cpu in the eris is the same as the hero cpu. ive been working on overclocking the heroc for some time now. the truth is that it can be overclocked to 700mhz max and winmo guys are already doing this. they found a sweet spot with our same cpu in their devices around 600mhz some go a little more. ive been usingtheir work along with my own skills and trying to get it working on native android devices. such as the hero and the eris. its a pain but i believe it can be done. im using the .27 kernel source for the heroc btw. ive managed to port all but the camera driver from .29 to .27. making itfully functional except camera. my hope is to get this working in .27 and possibly merge my changes into .29 6 months from now when HTC feels froggy anyhow yeah u can go and view all my threads ive started and a older patch is on my OC thread, in case anyone here has some C skills. fel free to contact me if u have any questions on it. i havent released my current patch as it isnt finished and im not so sure itll do much more then the one i posted on my thread.
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Awesome info! I was just wondering what it could be OC'd too if anyone knew. Good to know the same chip is in other phones so you know what they've pushed it too. What does it run stock? I don't think I've seen it posted anywhere.

So SetCPU doesn't work properly on the Eris, right? I had it running for a while but it always said min = 480, max = 528, no matter what I set it to. Also, the battery was draining FAST! It would die in about 10 hours. I turned it off today and it was at 80% battery left after 10 hours and I didn't notice any difference in performance.

piercedtiger said:
Awesome info! I was just wondering what it could be OC'd too if anyone knew. Good to know the same chip is in other phones so you know what they've pushed it too. What does it run stock? I don't think I've seen it posted anywhere.
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528mhz is stock, 700mhz is max supported. Sweet spot seems to around 600mhz. Battery drain won't be a massive issue as long as we can still use freq scaling

toastcfh said:
528mhz is stock, 700mhz is max supported. Sweet spot seems to around 600mhz. Battery drain won't be a massive issue as long as we can still use freq scaling
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thanks. That would speed things up a little.

Anyone know what effect this will have to games, and live wallpapers?

HD2 already has an overclocker, why can't we?

So most of you know that the HD2 can already overclock their phones which isn't fair and, in my opinion, unnecessary, but guess the snapdragons are just easy to overclock...
So when do you think the TP2 might be able to get an overclocker or will it even much be able to be overclocked? I know no2chem was attempting to do it but then he stopped updating his website .
If I can overclock my phone to 800mghz I don't think I'll be switching this phone in anytime soon.

buru898 said:
So most of you know that the HD2 can already overclock their phones which isn't fair and, in my opinion, unnecessary, but guess the snapdragons are just easy to overclock...
So when do you think the TP2 might be able to get an overclocker or will it even much be able to be overclocked? I know no2chem was attempting to do it but then he stopped updating his website .
If I can overclock my phone to 800mghz I don't think I'll be switching this phone in anytime soon.
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I agree, would be nice...

Support idea

Supported idea.

Supported...
Greaat plan...

Whatever happened to no2chem? I was really excited that he was going to come out with one since he came out with the Touch Pro's overclocker ...
So is there really no hope now? I would so have gone up on the overclocker if I knew anything about the subject lol.
I imagined it would have already came out for this phone but maybe everyone is wishfully expecting that someone (who may also be wishfully hoping) will do the job lol .

We should start a bounty just like the android forum has! Donations please!
I believe if there was a bounty we could start some development for this and hopefully have a working overclocking tool by the end of the summer! If one of the mods or senior members would like to step in and head this project I will do everything I can to back them up! anyone interested PM me! We need to get this going! This device is more than a year old!

BASSMANBOB said:
We should start a bounty just like the android forum has! Donations please!
I believe if there was a bounty we could start some development for this and hopefully have a working overclocking tool by the end of the summer! If one of the mods or senior members would like to step in and head this project I will do everything I can to back them up! anyone interested PM me! We need to get this going! This device is more than a year old!
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Haha hell yeah! That would be awesome! I wish I had money to donate but if someone could also make it an auto over/under clocker then all the better! I do believe Android phones have that no? Didn't no2chem release his source files for what he was working on?

here's the overclocker from htc

Could this be the legit overclocker for our beloved TP2's!? Could it be...

develop1 said:
Could this be the legit overclocker for our beloved TP2's!? Could it be...
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Sadly...I think not, but somebody somebody test it out and prove me wrong!lol

Its not....a quick google search revealed that this cab was for the original Tilt aka kaiser I believe, which uses a completely different processor....sooo yeah...

Once again all my hopes seem to be lost

Has ANYONE ever overclocked the Qualcomm MSM7200A? The CPU may be locked... Although I recall someone saying it can be UNDERclocked.
EDIT: OK, I did some searches. It turns out that the MSM7200A has TWO CPUs, one at 528 (arm11) and one at 256 (arm9). I suspect that this would be difficult to overclock, since the secondary CPU would also have to be overclocked.
The chip has impressive built in capabilities, I had not realized that the graphics support and video was that good. Overall the CPU seems to be built for consistent activity, being sturdy rather than built for speed - other than the 528 Mhz...

stevedebi said:
Has ANYONE ever overclocked the Qualcomm MSM7200A? The CPU may be locked... Although I recall someone saying it can be UNDERclocked.
EDIT: OK, I did some searches. It turns out that the MSM7200A has TWO CPUs, one at 528 (arm11) and one at 256 (arm9). I suspect that this would be difficult to overclock, since the secondary CPU would also have to be overclocked.
The chip has impressive built in capabilities, I had not realized that the graphics support and video was that good. Overall the CPU seems to be built for consistent activity, being sturdy rather than built for speed - other than the 528 Mhz...
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This CPU has been effectively overclocked in Android, but to my knowledge not in WinMo so far. The second CPU is the graphics processor and the data processor for calls and stuff(think 3G)
I believe in android people have gotten it to 768Mhz which would be great for Windows Mobile!!

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This CPU has been effectively overclocked in Android, but to my knowledge not in WinMo so far. The second CPU is the graphics processor and the data processor for calls and stuff(think 3G)
I believe in android people have gotten it to 768Mhz which would be great for Windows Mobile!!
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Well, maybe we should ask over in the Android forum - maybe someone who has overclocked there can tell us what he/she changed. People are offering a bounty to the person who can overclock it - so far only $30, but I bet more people would contribute.

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Well, maybe we should ask over in the Android forum - maybe someone who has overclocked there can tell us what he/she changed. People are offering a bounty to the person who can overclock it - so far only $30, but I bet more people would contribute.
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The way the CPU is overclocked in Android is super easy compared to an overclock in Windows Mobile, as it only requires a couple lines of text to be changed.

aijalon said:
here's the overclocker from htc
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So has anyone tried it out? It's good to see people active about overclocking our phones .

buru898 said:
So has anyone tried it out? It's good to see people active about overclocking our phones .
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If we want to see people even more active please view this thread and pass it on!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698374

I have searched high and low and I dont believe that no2chem EVER released his source for the app even if he had intentions of doing so...we will need to contact him somehow...any ideas?

Froyo overall impressions

I know there are comments about froyo scattered through some threads but I couldn't find a dedicated impression thread. Would those who have the latest froyo please chime in with their overall impressions? Thanks!

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I know there are comments about froyo scattered through some threads but I couldn't find a dedicated impression thread. Would those who have the latest froyo please chime in with their overall impressions? Thanks!
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test test test

Yeah I wouldnt mind hearing from someone that came from say CM5 to the latest stock Froyo. Is it better? Is it worth flashing now seeing as how CM6 is about a week or so away?
I would try it now myself, but I can't give up the dumb little things. (such as trackball wake)

I've used every CM version and every leaked version of Froyo. I was surprised that the final Froyo release seemed faster and smoother than FRF83. The browser seems really fast now and app switching is great thanks to JIT. I like my FRF85B Froyo final setup right now more than I did CM5.0.8. I can't wait for CM6 though.

Super. Wonderful. Amazing. Thank you Google and anyone else on the OHA that contributed to this.
It's great. I love it. I love it even more when someone hands me a HTC Touch Pro2 with Windows Mobile on it... Microsoft shouldn't even be in the mobile business. They should leave it to the experts. It was sad.
If you ever get a chance to put your hands on Windows Mobile... do it. It will make you appreciate your Android phone more than when you bought it.

clickwir said:
If you ever get a chance to put your hands on Windows Mobile... do it. It will make you appreciate your Android phone more than when you bought it.
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Look at my sig pic, WM is all I ever used for years. I dabbled with android with emulators on my Fuze, then finally made the jump when the N1 was released. After using it for 1 day, I was emotional.
I really can't think of one single thing I miss with WM...

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The browser seems really fast now and app switching is great thanks to JIT.
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I don't think the JIT would have much impact on app switching. The highmem kernel OTOH makes a huge difference. My launcher was always relaunching when switching from big apps such as the browser or navigation. Since upgrading to froyo I haven't seen the launcher restart once.

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I don't think the JIT would have much impact on app switching. The highmem kernel OTOH makes a huge difference. My launcher was always relaunching when switching from big apps such as the browser or navigation. Since upgrading to froyo I haven't seen the launcher restart once.
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Yeah you are probably right. I just thought I read somewhere that JIT had benefits for loading apps, it might have just been for 3rd party apps because JIT converts to native code before processing (something like that).

irishrally said:
Yeah you are probably right. I just thought I read somewhere that JIT had benefits for loading apps, it might have just been for 3rd party apps because JIT converts to native code before processing (something like that).
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The JIT actually wouldn't have any impact on loading times. The standard interpreted code is always run initially. It's only once the app starts running that the JIT is able to locate frequently accessed blocks of code that would benefit from compiling to native code.

irishrally said:
I've used every CM version and every leaked version of Froyo ...
... I like my FRF85B Froyo final setup right now more than I did CM5.0.8. I can't wait for CM6 though.
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I too have used CyanogenMod since I had my G1. I DID play with, and greatly enjoy the Froyo ROM when it was released by PaulObrien.
But I did miss some of Cyanogens special additions, so I went back to it a few weeks ago.
Now with the latest Froyo out, I may change over - AGAIN!
clickwir said:
... Microsoft shouldn't even be in the mobile business. They should leave it to the experts. It was sad.
If you ever get a chance to put your hands on Windows Mobile... do it. It will make you appreciate your Android phone more than when you bought it.
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hahaha, funny you mentioned that.
A co-worker of mine approached me, and said he bought this Android™ phone from a friend. He heard that I know about Android, rooting, apps, etc. so he had some questions for me. He hands me the phone, and I was thrilled to hold this LARGE HTC DEVICE in my hand. I haven't held an EVO, yet, so imagine my joy!!! My first time ya know so I was honored.
It was branded T-MOBILE though ... hhmm, this can't be right!!! It should say Sprint!!!
After seeing the homescreen and tapping/flicking/swiping for all of 1.0 seconds, I handed it back to him and told him he has a Windows Mobile device - NOT ANDROID, and boy oh boy, was he pissed!!!! LMAO
Poor guy!
"If you ever get a chance to put your hands on Windows Mobile... do it. It will make you appreciate your Android phone more than when you bought it."
I let him play with my Nexus for a few minutes. He offered to buy it from me for $450 .... nuh uh homeboy! This is my baby!