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Multiple programs on boot

Hi all. Im having an issue where once I restart my G1 and then check the task manager there is about 10 programs running.
GTalk, Calender, alarm clock, email, and gmail are some of them just off the top of my head. Once I go and try to kill those programs they are killed but after a few seconds in task manager (I have root access) they reappear. I dont have any calender events scheduled, nor use Gtalk or set the alarm.
Can someone please explain it to me and/or have a fix for it?
Thanks

I'm experiencing the same thing. I only started noticing it around JF1.41, but it's entirely possible that I was just tragically unobservant prior to that.

ive allways had that crap, they auto end themselfs after a while tho...

its probably because regardless of what u are running the g1 needs to use those prgrams at startup kinda like system files in windows and other os's and g1 does auto connect to google.. so yeah.... i doubt its one of those things u can just remove and still have ur phone working

yes, i and others i know experiance this problem. Well i say problem, but it is not a fault, they have to start up with the phone, it runs them automatically and i wouldnt bother looking for a way to stop it. You'll probably end up doing more damage.
Good to know theres more than 2 people out there with this issue, and i will post back if i find any solutions, as battery life is precious!

Tattoo device very slow...

Hi,
Just writing because i experience my Tattoo device to be extremely slow reacting. I have used it for 14 days now and to begin with it reacted fast but now it is very slow when touching widgets, scrolling in contacts, opening apps and so on. Has anyone got some advice? I have added some widgets and apps from Market, but could this really be enough already to slow device this much?? (It acts as my old HTC Touch GSM with WM6, which should say a lot).
Regards
Anders

Do you pwer cycle your phone regularly, and try downloading taskiller if you havent already. My tattoo is very speedy, but its running a wwe rom instead of a carrier one.

Task Killer
Yes,
Task Killer is the perfect app for speeding up the tattoo.
Make sure to enable "Kill All" when screen is turned off
Also ensure to add applications such as clock or music in the ignore list so that it does not kill it.
If clock is not added to the ignore list, then Alarm will not go off. Hope you get the picture
Prasath

What is the real name of task killer with settings for kill tasks when screen is turned off?
And are we shure it's real necessary? Try to read this article

I have use Task Killer.. yes, it is very good app. it can improve battery life, can speed up. But my morning alarm never ring again after using this.
And one more question, why all android apps are consuming so much system resources.. I mean all of them always try to run in the background even when I do not require them consuming so much system resources, like RAM and battery??

thacen said:
I have use Task Killer.. yes, it is very good app. it can improve battery life, can speed up. But my morning alarm never ring again after using this.
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If you don't exclude the alarm's process, it's normal...

Alarm, alarm that doesn't alarm

hi guys,
love the phone and its amazing speed and reaction but i had to take cab for my work because of the built-in alarm. it works sometime but i cannot seem to understand why it doesn't work all the time. if all you expert and guru have any idea pls do let me know. thanks in advance.

Are you killing the clock application with a task killer?
If you don't see the little clock icon (on the tray top right) the alarm isn't going to go off. Restart the clock application.

BigDamHero said:
If you don't see the little clock icon (on the tray top right) the alarm isn't going to go off. Restart the clock application.
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If you're using a task killer you MUST exclude the clock app.
The icon will still be there if you kill it but it won't go off.

As above, put CLOCK on the exclude list of any memory or task killers. Also I personally go to the clock app and open it and then hit home before I settle to sleep so I know its been opened and should be running.
Dayz xx

THANKS for this - this was bugging me bigtime - as it seemed to alarm randomly and not everyday - try using "my alarm did not go off" twice in a week at work !!

Redant said:
THANKS for this - this was bugging me bigtime - as it seemed to alarm randomly and not everyday - try using "my alarm did not go off" twice in a week at work !!
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that doesnt work, ive tried...

Redant said:
THANKS for this - this was bugging me bigtime - as it seemed to alarm randomly and not everyday - try using "my alarm did not go off" twice in a week at work !!
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I did. Got in abit of deep trouble

thanks guys
i was killing the clock. but thought clock is an internal program that runs no matter what. this is my first android phone and i was a WM man before. i have to comment that WM handles these things pretty well. anyway thanks guys, will try with the clock running in the background.

shintu said:
i was killing the clock. but thought clock is an internal program that runs no matter what. this is my first android phone and i was a WM man before. i have to comment that WM handles these things pretty well. anyway thanks guys, will try with the clock running in the background.
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Not attacking you here, just quoting you on the windows mobile comment.
Android manages apps and memory much better than unfortunately most people believe. Task/app killers are unnecessary, and I frankly don't buy the "stopping 1 or 2 run away app's" excuse, if the app you're using is that poorly written, then it needs to be replaced with something else.
The issue with peoples outlook towards free memory is incredibly skewed by Windows XP. Linux and even Win7 manage memory MUCH better, and thus it gets used! Right now I'm under win7 and I have 5MB of free memory out of my 2GB. People blamed vista/win7 for being a resource hog from this same mentality, it is not!
App's don't need to be killed, if battery usage is a concern, check your battery usage meter. Chances are the refresh interval of that app is using your cell antenna too much and that's what is draining your battery. Reducing these intervals will prevent partial wake and reward you with longer battery life.

I find the little clue really useful on Android that was never present on Wm - the text you get after you set an alarm that tells you how many hours and minutes to the next alarm. I've saved a few disasters by seeing those.

default alarm clock not going off

i have set the alarms on my new incredible and tested them by setting them to go off while i'm watching, so i know it works. what i can't figure out is why the alarms don't go off in the morning. even hitting snooze (during testing) and then leaving the phone alone to go to sleep caused it too fail to go off again.
my speculation is that the alarms will only go off if the phone is already active, but this makes no sense to me. i read some threads of people asking about alarm clock apps and such for other model androids and everyone seemed to find their default alarms worked and were just looking for better functionality.
is anyone else experiencing this issue? if so, have you found any settings or whatever to correct it?
i am brand new to android (winmo before) so i could be missing the obvious. any help would be appreciated.

Mine works just fine, every weekday morning at 6:30am.
i did setup a special one last sunday for the first time and it worked great!
There is a setting to "play alarm even when the phone is in silent mode", "alarm volume", snooze duration(this is nice!), and slide button behaviour. 2x check those!

Yeah, it took me a little bit to figure this one out. If you're using a task killer you need to make sure to keep the "Clock" app running for the alarms to work.

I know a member over at ppcgeeks with the same problem. Clock wouldn't ring at set time. Long story short , advanced task killer was the problem . He uninstalled that app and the alarm clock rang the next morning.

if you have task killers make sure NOT to kill CLOCK app or it wont ring

tommy96814 said:
if you have task killers make sure NOT to kill CLOCK app or it wont ring
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Or just remove ATK, it seems to be a problem for people that don't understand memory management on the droids.
It was a huge problem on the moto droids on the other forums, and there's no reason to install it.

thanks for the feedback. this is almost certainly my problem.
i downloaded an alarm clock app that worked just fine even with my compulsive killing of tasks.
i'm brand new to android and have never used any other type of linux system, i have used winmo phones for a long time and couldn't have done with out a task manager.
i'v been reading some conflicting opinions on these boards about ATK use. some people think it is with out any real purpose and some complain that the built in task killer doesn't turn on till resources are low enough to cause performance issues. i can't really comment on this, as i don't know enough, but i can say that i have my 3g set to only turn on when needed and every damn app wants internet connectivity. so, if i don't kill the tasks running in the background the 3g won't turn off, and my poor, tiny battery will die.
or am i still making faulty assumptions?

you dont need to worry about that; android handles applications very differently than windows mobile and even without task killer your battery wont drain...

[Q] Reliablility and privacy issues (sms and alarm clock)

Good day,
I have my GS now for about a month, in the beginning everything was really great. No problems but usual ones.
Since last week the alarm clock gets unreliable, it is set for each day, same time, but sometimes it is not doing anything and today it woke me up an hour early. I don't understand why such a simple and basic program screwes around.
And for now i was just texting with my girl, but when i received a message from her it was just displayed in our normal conversation list. But somehow her number was changed into the number from one of my mates, so when i replied my mate got a message. Don't understand me wrong it ends up in the "good"conversation list, but it gets sent to a totally random person in my phone book.
All in all these are not the things i do wish to encounter on a phone like this.
Any other people here experienced similar problems?

Running any task killers ?

Yes, i do run "advanced task killer"

Also, are you running an approved ROM or a pre-release ROM

I'm running on the stock shipped rom, haven't rooted anything yet.
Purchased it a month ago at a Dutch provider/retailer, it has no simlock and neither have any crazy (potential dangerous) application been installed.
Rgds Lennart

paverhoofd said:
Yes, i do run "advanced task killer"
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Make sure the alarm clock is on the ignore list, though this wouldn't explain the hour early problem. Also, I'm not positive if the ignore list works for automated task killing, though it'd only make sense that it does work that way.
ATK is only worth manual operation IMHO, running it in the background, especially at night when the phone should be idle, will cause battery drain.
Besides ATK, likely cause would be firmware. Though you are assuming that this is a problem in the alarm app based on your question of how a simple program could go so wrong, there could be issues with your clock and/or alarm program syncing to the clock (not actually sure that's a process, but hey). Obviously, bad(/no) info in -> bad (/no) info out.

Ok, I've put the clock on the ignore list and also rebooted, it had been switched on for at least two weeks.
This evening (nightjob) i was woken up at the set time and the sms function seems to be working ok now.
Thank you for your help/concerns, if anything else i will keep you posted.
Lennart

The SMS mixup seems to be a known bug in the messaging client. I have encountered it a few times b4. Read some others had it also. It is totally random when it happens. I have switched to handcent and it doesn't have this problem.