hi guys,
love the phone and its amazing speed and reaction but i had to take cab for my work because of the built-in alarm. it works sometime but i cannot seem to understand why it doesn't work all the time. if all you expert and guru have any idea pls do let me know. thanks in advance.
Are you killing the clock application with a task killer?
If you don't see the little clock icon (on the tray top right) the alarm isn't going to go off. Restart the clock application.
BigDamHero said:
If you don't see the little clock icon (on the tray top right) the alarm isn't going to go off. Restart the clock application.
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If you're using a task killer you MUST exclude the clock app.
The icon will still be there if you kill it but it won't go off.
As above, put CLOCK on the exclude list of any memory or task killers. Also I personally go to the clock app and open it and then hit home before I settle to sleep so I know its been opened and should be running.
Dayz xx
THANKS for this - this was bugging me bigtime - as it seemed to alarm randomly and not everyday - try using "my alarm did not go off" twice in a week at work !!
Redant said:
THANKS for this - this was bugging me bigtime - as it seemed to alarm randomly and not everyday - try using "my alarm did not go off" twice in a week at work !!
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that doesnt work, ive tried...
Redant said:
THANKS for this - this was bugging me bigtime - as it seemed to alarm randomly and not everyday - try using "my alarm did not go off" twice in a week at work !!
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I did. Got in abit of deep trouble
thanks guys
i was killing the clock. but thought clock is an internal program that runs no matter what. this is my first android phone and i was a WM man before. i have to comment that WM handles these things pretty well. anyway thanks guys, will try with the clock running in the background.
shintu said:
i was killing the clock. but thought clock is an internal program that runs no matter what. this is my first android phone and i was a WM man before. i have to comment that WM handles these things pretty well. anyway thanks guys, will try with the clock running in the background.
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Not attacking you here, just quoting you on the windows mobile comment.
Android manages apps and memory much better than unfortunately most people believe. Task/app killers are unnecessary, and I frankly don't buy the "stopping 1 or 2 run away app's" excuse, if the app you're using is that poorly written, then it needs to be replaced with something else.
The issue with peoples outlook towards free memory is incredibly skewed by Windows XP. Linux and even Win7 manage memory MUCH better, and thus it gets used! Right now I'm under win7 and I have 5MB of free memory out of my 2GB. People blamed vista/win7 for being a resource hog from this same mentality, it is not!
App's don't need to be killed, if battery usage is a concern, check your battery usage meter. Chances are the refresh interval of that app is using your cell antenna too much and that's what is draining your battery. Reducing these intervals will prevent partial wake and reward you with longer battery life.
I find the little clue really useful on Android that was never present on Wm - the text you get after you set an alarm that tells you how many hours and minutes to the next alarm. I've saved a few disasters by seeing those.
Related
I wanted to see if anyone has any luck running these two memory hogs on their device at the same time?
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I wanted to see if anyone has any luck running these two memory hogs on their device at the same time?
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I have run both of these together. Had real slow downs with WAD, Phone Alarm and several other Desktop stuff on one Desktop. But using WAD allows multiple desktops so in the end I only put one heavy memory app on each desktop and it worked fairly well with little slow down except on the desktop with Phone Alarm. Now I do not run Phone Alarm (too many slow downs) but I would not live without WAD. There are those around though that say Phone Alarm is only slow if you have not gone into all the menu items setting them up just right for the device, so I'm prepared to believe it wasn't slow, I was!!!
Mike
Hi,
Just writing because i experience my Tattoo device to be extremely slow reacting. I have used it for 14 days now and to begin with it reacted fast but now it is very slow when touching widgets, scrolling in contacts, opening apps and so on. Has anyone got some advice? I have added some widgets and apps from Market, but could this really be enough already to slow device this much?? (It acts as my old HTC Touch GSM with WM6, which should say a lot).
Regards
Anders
Do you pwer cycle your phone regularly, and try downloading taskiller if you havent already. My tattoo is very speedy, but its running a wwe rom instead of a carrier one.
Task Killer
Yes,
Task Killer is the perfect app for speeding up the tattoo.
Make sure to enable "Kill All" when screen is turned off
Also ensure to add applications such as clock or music in the ignore list so that it does not kill it.
If clock is not added to the ignore list, then Alarm will not go off. Hope you get the picture
Prasath
What is the real name of task killer with settings for kill tasks when screen is turned off?
And are we shure it's real necessary? Try to read this article
I have use Task Killer.. yes, it is very good app. it can improve battery life, can speed up. But my morning alarm never ring again after using this.
And one more question, why all android apps are consuming so much system resources.. I mean all of them always try to run in the background even when I do not require them consuming so much system resources, like RAM and battery??
thacen said:
I have use Task Killer.. yes, it is very good app. it can improve battery life, can speed up. But my morning alarm never ring again after using this.
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If you don't exclude the alarm's process, it's normal...
hi all,
i m new user for Nexus one, i wonder what is the best task apps to auto kill when the phone in sleep mode in order to save battery. My phone havent ROOT yet, shall i do it? After i have update the Android 2.1 i found it very good compare with iphone.
thank you very much
Killing tasks won't help to save battery... don't buy the hype. Android will manage your apps for you.
No killing tasks can help your battery. There are many apps on the market that are poorly written and drain battery.
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No killing tasks can help your battery. There are many apps on the market that are poorly written and drain battery.
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Well that makes sense... but I don't run any poorly written apps. And neither should you.
If you absolutely have to have a task killer, just download Astro File Manager. You'll need a file manager on this phone anyway, and Astro has a built in configurable task killer and can also back up apps to SD.
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Well that makes sense... but I don't run any poorly written apps. And neither should you.
If you absolutely have to have a task killer, just download Astro File Manager. You'll need a file manager on this phone anyway, and Astro has a built in configurable task killer and can also back up apps to SD.
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I try not to. But sometimes I get curious and download some random apps haha.
I use Advance Task Manager since I bought it when I had a Cliq.
It works good when I need to kill something to restart it or if I need to do a batch uninstall.
Astro is amazing and no one should have an android phone without it.
Thks all,
If so, i shall just leave as it is and not install any of those task killer or auto task etc......
But anyway to min the battery drain since there are so much apps running on RAM when the phone is in sleep mode. My battery can only last for 8 hrs from 9am till 5pm (i am so distracted, i do turn on my BT and talk on phone for at least 100mins-150mins a day.)
Thank you
chocodip said:
Thks all,
If so, i shall just leave as it is and not install any of those task killer or auto task etc......
But anyway to min the battery drain since there are so much apps running on RAM when the phone is in sleep mode. My battery can only last for 8 hrs from 9am till 5pm (i am so distracted, i do turn on my BT and talk on phone for at least 100mins-150mins a day.)
Thank you
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Keep the screen brightness as low as you can. Also having a lot of widgets can contribute to battery drain.
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Killing tasks won't help to save battery... don't buy the hype. Android will manage your apps for you.
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while this is true, I notice that android's threshold for closing programs is lower than I prefer. It seems to start closing programs at around 25 mb free (on stock kernel and rom) as reported by ES strong's task manager. At this level there is a noticeable amount of sluggishness on my N1. Of course this only lasts for perhaps 10 seconds or so as I am switching apps or whatever until android closes the processes to free up some ram.
I've read comments like yours many times, and I go back to not using one for a while thinking I must just be paranoid. Each time I return to the task manager because I get ticked about sluggishness.
If you manage your ignore list carefully to avoid closing stuff you actually want running in the background you lose nothing. The phone is fast enough that it loads apps quickly even if they're not sitting in the ram, so I prefer to hit the autokill widget once in a while or after using something like the youtube app or other resource hogging apps that I don't use on a regular basis.
I haven't noticed a difference in battery life, but the task manager improves my experience with the phone. It seems that as long as the free memory stays around 40+ I don't see the sluggishness.
Which task killer you use?
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while this is true, I notice that android's threshold for closing programs is lower than I prefer. It seems to start closing programs at around 25 mb free (on stock kernel and rom) as reported by ES strong's task manager. At this level there is a noticeable amount of sluggishness on my N1. Of course this only lasts for perhaps 10 seconds or so as I am switching apps or whatever until android closes the processes to free up some ram.
I've read comments like yours many times, and I go back to not using one for a while thinking I must just be paranoid. Each time I return to the task manager because I get ticked about sluggishness.
If you manage your ignore list carefully to avoid closing stuff you actually want running in the background you lose nothing. The phone is fast enough that it loads apps quickly even if they're not sitting in the ram, so I prefer to hit the autokill widget once in a while or after using something like the youtube app or other resource hogging apps that I don't use on a regular basis.
I haven't noticed a difference in battery life, but the task manager improves my experience with the phone. It seems that as long as the free memory stays around 40+ I don't see the sluggishness.
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My screen always in lowest light mode......i will try to install the advance task....hope it deos help abit.
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Keep the screen brightness as low as you can. Also having a lot of widgets can contribute to battery drain.
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My screen always in lowest light mode......i will try to install the advance task....hope it deos help abit.
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Advance task manager also lets you set a timer for auto closing all open apps except for the ones you have on your exception list.
chocodip said:
hi all,
i m new user for Nexus one, i wonder what is the best task apps to auto kill when the phone in sleep mode in order to save battery. My phone havent ROOT yet, shall i do it? After i have update the Android 2.1 i found it very good compare with iphone.
thank you very much
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Try Juice Defender,is free on the market and everytime you turn the screen to sleep it kills the background data to save battery and @ wake-up its normal again.Read the reviews.
rossiscatch said:
while this is true, I notice that android's threshold for closing programs is lower than I prefer. It seems to start closing programs at around 25 mb free (on stock kernel and rom) as reported by ES strong's task manager. At this level there is a noticeable amount of sluggishness on my N1. Of course this only lasts for perhaps 10 seconds or so as I am switching apps or whatever until android closes the processes to free up some ram.
I've read comments like yours many times, and I go back to not using one for a while thinking I must just be paranoid. Each time I return to the task manager because I get ticked about sluggishness.
If you manage your ignore list carefully to avoid closing stuff you actually want running in the background you lose nothing. The phone is fast enough that it loads apps quickly even if they're not sitting in the ram, so I prefer to hit the autokill widget once in a while or after using something like the youtube app or other resource hogging apps that I don't use on a regular basis.
I haven't noticed a difference in battery life, but the task manager improves my experience with the phone. It seems that as long as the free memory stays around 40+ I don't see the sluggishness.
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I've got over 400 hours of uptime without closing ANY apps with a task killer, and haven't had ANY sluggishness. So if you're really noticing your phone slowing down (and be honest), then I'd exchange it. Frankly, I think a lot of people just "think" their phone is slowing down...
Cyanogen says don't use a Task killer!
Paul22000 said:
Cyanogen says don't use a Task killer!
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So if cyanogen says jump of a bridge you would? lol
Just messing with you.
I ve installed the Juicedefender and advance task manger......hope meanwhile there will be sthg better. Battery usage is killing me....
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I've got over 400 hours of uptime without closing ANY apps with a task killer, and haven't had ANY sluggishness. So if you're really noticing your phone slowing down (and be honest), then I'd exchange it. Frankly, I think a lot of people just "think" their phone is slowing down...
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Yeah, I'm sure you're right.. it's all in my head.
Couple of things OP:
1. Bluetooth is a battery hog!
2. How frequent do you have email update, weather update, et al set to?
3. Did you properly calibrate your battery meter when you got your N1? (Two ways to do it, 1) follow the in box guide and charge the phone before using or 2) run down the battery until the phone shuts itself off, pull battery out, put it back in. Now, without turning it back on, put it on the charger and leave it on for a couple hours past the green light coming on, take off charge, finally turn back on)
4. Do you have WiFi running? GPS? Streaming anything?
Have you downloaded any apps from the market just on a quim? There are some pretty bad apps that will never close until you uninstall and do a soft reset, and sometimes uninstall again.
Killing apps is actually going to hurt your battery. It takes more juice to power up the CPU to open an app then it does to hold it in the RAM, unless it is a crap written app that keeps running, and running, and running... but you shouldn't be using those apps anyways.
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Yeah, I'm sure you're right.. it's all in my head.
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It most likely is... even when apps sit idle in RAM, the CPU usage for them is 0% in almost every case. Like I said... I don't have those issues at all, so it's either in your head or you have a dud.
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It most likely is... even when apps sit idle in RAM, the CPU usage for them is 0% in almost every case. Like I said... I don't have those issues at all, so it's either in your head or you have a dud.
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I don't think it's a problem with my phone. If you don't notice then good for you. I notice it and it bothers me. Your finger pointing is neither helpful or needed.
Hi
Ive just got this app (really to save myself some battery time)
On launching for the first time it presents me with a whole bunch of stuff including my clocks
Now i'm sure this maybe a pretty dumb question but if i kill the htc clock App will that stop the time and weather updating correctly? (i have my weather set to update hourly) and also if i kill any app like K-9 or Peep (that i have an update schedule set for) will it stop that schedule till i manually launch the app again or will it auto launch when it reaches the sheduled update time?
Sorry for the (potentially) stupid questions
Cheers
The only thing you're going to achieve with using a task killer, is lowering performance and causing even worse battery drain. If that's what you want to do, fine, but otherwise, I wouldn't bother if I were you.
Here's why:
Android's memory management is nothing like Windows Mobile. Applications you've finished with are MEANT to stay in memory until they really are completely finished with, and just because YOU aren't using them, doesn't mean the phone has. If they've been inactive long enough, or some other program needs the RAM, Android will tidily close them down.
If you close them prematurely, then Android will have to load them back up again, so that whatever was using said program's services, can continue to function. This noticeably affects phone performance, and puts an extra load on your battery. Do you REALLY want to do that?
I'm not using any task killers, and my phone runs great, and battery is up to 2.5 days.
Hmm interesting, i might try that, im killing all instantly and repeately, thanks for the tip
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The only thing you're going to achieve with using a task killer, is lowering performance and causing even worse battery drain. If that's what you want to do, fine, but otherwise, I wouldn't bother if I were you.
Here's why:
Android's memory management is nothing like Windows Mobile. Applications you've finished with are MEANT to stay in memory until they really are completely finished with, and just because YOU aren't using them, doesn't mean the phone has. If they've been inactive long enough, or some other program needs the RAM, Android will tidily close them down.
If you close them prematurely, then Android will have to load them back up again, so that whatever was using said program's services, can continue to function. This noticeably affects phone performance, and puts an extra load on your battery. Do you REALLY want to do that?
I'm not using any task killers, and my phone runs great, and battery is up to 2.5 days.
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Thats correct.
I installed it on the phone, and the battery was empty the same night
Uninstalled it, and all works fine now.
Greetz.
would an app like task panel work?
you can add apps that are system apps etc to the ignore list and have apps such as games on the force to kill list or is it just best not to have any task killer apps installed at all?
its strange that there are so many task killer apps and its bad to run on your device. There must be some reason as to why there is an app for this purpose?
ragmanchu said:
would an app like task panel work?
you can add apps that are system apps etc to the ignore list and have apps such as games on the force to kill list or is it just best not to have any task killer apps installed at all?
its strange that there are so many task killer apps and its bad to run on your device. There must be some reason as to why there is an app for this purpose?
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They exist, because people think memory management on Android works like it does on Windows Mobile. It doesn't, and never has. Think if it like the so called "memory manager" tools you can get for XP that claim to be able to free all your RAM and speed up your system... Every single one of them is nothing but a placebo designed to part you from your cash, and often end up CAUSING problems, just like task killers on Android do.
Avoid them.
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They exist, because people think memory management on Android works like it does on Windows Mobile. It doesn't, and never has. Think if it like the so called "memory manager" tools you can get for XP that claim to be able to free all your RAM and speed up your system... Every single one of them is nothing but a placebo designed to part you from your cash, and often end up CAUSING problems, just like task killers on Android do.
Avoid them.
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Guess thats a good enough reply lol
task killers can work fine, but you need to know what is running and what is using it.
for example, if you have the music widget on the homescreens, then the music player process will be opne in the background.
likewise friendstream will keep people, facebook and twitter open in the background.
if you kill those processes, they will just get opened again.
As long as you are careful, using task managers will not decrease battery life, you just need to know how to use them properly. randomly killing everything in the background is NOT the way to do it.
and you should never close clock if you want your alarm clock to actually go off!!
Might be worth making a list of what apps should be ignored and what apps can be forced killed?
When i had an app killer installed, i used to only force kill games and sat nav apps, the rest i asked it to ignore but after reading this thread, i decided to delete the app killer app =)
Ive put a bunch of stuff like clock, weather, Peep and facebook etc on the ignore list and have used the task killer to only kill off frivolous apps like Spark (for xbox friends) streamfurious, photos etc...Nothing Major!
I unhooked my phone from the power at 7:30 am on the 13th April, its now 16:36 on the 14th april and it still has 30% of the juice left, and i always have wifi and mobile data connection on too...phone is always left on with facebook connecting ever 4 hrs and peep once a day and mail set for every 2 hrs (besides which i do check and update them manually a couple of times a day)
I'll try all this without task killer installed and test how long the phone can run before charging
As you say, it could well be a combination of the battery coming up to speed and a placebo effect.
However, surely it cant do more harm than good to kill an app like Spark !
However, im no Phone Genius so im sure someone will soon tell me that im completely wrong
But so far so good....like i said, ill test things without task killer installed
I've stopped using the task killer now and my battery life has improved very noticably.
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I've stopped using the task killer now and my battery life has improved very noticably.
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im not so sure about this.
im using a task killer when i want to close the browser or something using internet, as we all know internet drains a lot of battery and even if the browser or market is in the background it still probably has some active connections = draining battery
cez10 said:
im using a task killer when i want to close the browser or something using internet, as we all know internet drains a lot of battery and even if the browser or market is in the background it still probably has some active connections = draining battery
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If you want to close fast the browser or any app, you should have a try at taskOS and launch it with the search key whenever you want...
Binned this app in favour of Juice defender, my new battery saving app of choice, seems to be working as it should too...nice
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If you want to close fast the browser or any app, you should have a try at taskOS and launch it with the search key whenever you want...
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but then that works pretty much like a task killer
can anyone correct me about the apps i.e. browser using internet while not active(in background) is this true or not? of course having the sync/updates turned off
Task killers can be handy for those times when apps seem to have crashed but aren't forcing close. for example, i've had times where ebuddy just doesn't want to even try to sign in. Task kill it. Try again. all is well. And last my internet browser wouldn't let me click any buttons. Again, killed it - restarted - all is ok.
I've had to use such an app countless of times due to unwanted/unneeded apps running, hanging FCs and black screens, checking/closing net related or sensor using apps, and numerous times when 300KB apps wouldn't install citing 'low memory' when I have more than 70MB free, but it was the RAM being near full causing FCs in apps like Market, and halting the installs. I only use Androids built-in TaskPanel widget for this though. Everything routine is set over to the ignore list so that I don't accidently hit and close that (single hit closes the app). Additionally I use this app to check and to switch to an opened application that is running (when it's not in the recent list).
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If you want to close fast the browser or any app, you should have a try at taskOS and launch it with the search key whenever you want...
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This is the route I've taken naturally. I'm using jkAppSwitch on my longpress search key, mainly used for switching but can be used to kill problem apps.
Full task killers are being proven to be useless on the Desire.
I would recommend using an app that monitors the cpu usage(watchdog etc.). This way your can see which apps put a drain on your phone.
Thank you for the information. But I do notice a considerable improvement in battery power with Advanced Task Killer.
I hope someone can provide me an answer.
i have set the alarms on my new incredible and tested them by setting them to go off while i'm watching, so i know it works. what i can't figure out is why the alarms don't go off in the morning. even hitting snooze (during testing) and then leaving the phone alone to go to sleep caused it too fail to go off again.
my speculation is that the alarms will only go off if the phone is already active, but this makes no sense to me. i read some threads of people asking about alarm clock apps and such for other model androids and everyone seemed to find their default alarms worked and were just looking for better functionality.
is anyone else experiencing this issue? if so, have you found any settings or whatever to correct it?
i am brand new to android (winmo before) so i could be missing the obvious. any help would be appreciated.
Mine works just fine, every weekday morning at 6:30am.
i did setup a special one last sunday for the first time and it worked great!
There is a setting to "play alarm even when the phone is in silent mode", "alarm volume", snooze duration(this is nice!), and slide button behaviour. 2x check those!
Yeah, it took me a little bit to figure this one out. If you're using a task killer you need to make sure to keep the "Clock" app running for the alarms to work.
I know a member over at ppcgeeks with the same problem. Clock wouldn't ring at set time. Long story short , advanced task killer was the problem . He uninstalled that app and the alarm clock rang the next morning.
if you have task killers make sure NOT to kill CLOCK app or it wont ring
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if you have task killers make sure NOT to kill CLOCK app or it wont ring
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Or just remove ATK, it seems to be a problem for people that don't understand memory management on the droids.
It was a huge problem on the moto droids on the other forums, and there's no reason to install it.
thanks for the feedback. this is almost certainly my problem.
i downloaded an alarm clock app that worked just fine even with my compulsive killing of tasks.
i'm brand new to android and have never used any other type of linux system, i have used winmo phones for a long time and couldn't have done with out a task manager.
i'v been reading some conflicting opinions on these boards about ATK use. some people think it is with out any real purpose and some complain that the built in task killer doesn't turn on till resources are low enough to cause performance issues. i can't really comment on this, as i don't know enough, but i can say that i have my 3g set to only turn on when needed and every damn app wants internet connectivity. so, if i don't kill the tasks running in the background the 3g won't turn off, and my poor, tiny battery will die.
or am i still making faulty assumptions?
you dont need to worry about that; android handles applications very differently than windows mobile and even without task killer your battery wont drain...