Related
Just wanted to say bye, and thanks, to everyone in the G1 Forum.
I've now sold my G1 and got a desire (which is awesome and dare I say it 10x better than the G1).
Thanks to everyone who has given me support, SuperD, Cyanogen and anyone else's rom I've used.
I'm waiting for a US release so I can use 3G or maybe even 4G. Hope you have fun with your desire.
Ace42 said:
I'm waiting for a US release so I can use 3G or maybe even 4G. Hope you have fun with your desire.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
but isn't it a GSM phone? capable of international use and unlock purchase? If so, you shouldn't have any problem getting 3g with your service provider.
Klyentel said:
but isn't it a GSM phone? capable of international use and unlock purchase? If so, you shouldn't have any problem getting 3g with your service provider.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh your right but I still want the Dell Mini 5 too.
._. any android phone is better then the g1. It's outdated, but I still love it
brummiesteven said:
Just wanted to say bye, and thanks, to everyone in the G1 Forum.
I've now sold my G1 and got a desire (which is awesome and dare I say it 10x better than the G1).
Thanks to everyone who has given me support, SuperD, Cyanogen and anyone else's rom I've used.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm Jealous of you European People
I hope T-Mobile USA get some awesome HTC SENSE android love. All we got is the g1, the mytouch line, and those $h!tty motoblur devices.
Klyentel said:
but isn't it a GSM phone? capable of international use and unlock purchase? If so, you shouldn't have any problem getting 3g with your service provider.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
USA 3G bands are "special." With the Desire you can't get 3G with either AT&T or T-Mobile.
Just to let you guys know, apparently it's coming out in Australia on some network that uses the same 3G Bands as the USA.
coolbho3000 said:
USA 3G bands are "special." With the Desire you can't get 3G with either AT&T or T-Mobile.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh ok, thanks for the info, I wasn't sure
Out of curiosity, how much did you get for your G1? Sell it on ebay?
NickPDX said:
Out of curiosity, how much did you get for your G1? Sell it on ebay?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
£130 on ebay, pretty decent as I didn't sell the SD Card with it.
I had intended to sell the 16gb SD Card, Phone (Boxed) and Motorola s9 wireless earphones.
The buyer wanted me to end the auction early and offered £130 for the phone only, guess I got lucky.
Same here, i got my Desire on Saturday and couldn't be happier with it!
Though i'm a sucker and gave my G1 to my dad, keep it in the family and all
Gonna sell my Hero though, i saw they still fetch around £180 on ebay...
Hi, I'm wondering is it worth it to splash $50 to buy an used Evo after selling my HD2? The thing is I want Android with 4.3" screen but I don't know if Android on HD2 is good enough compared to a real Android phone. So what do you think? Would there be a perfect Android ROM that'd make HD2 the same as any Android phone? One more factor to consider, my country doesn't support 4G. Thanks.
dan138zig said:
Hi, I'm wondering is it worth it to splash $50 to buy an used Evo after selling my HD2? The thing is I want Android with 4.3" screen but I don't know if Android on HD2 is good enough compared to a real Android phone. So what do you think? Would there be a perfect Android ROM that'd make HD2 the same as any Android phone? One more factor to consider, my country doesn't support 4G. Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your country needs to support CDMA to use the EVO, IT IS NOT GSM COMPATIBLE!
If you would like an Android GSM phone with a 4.3'' screen, why not go for the HTC Desire HD?
paulmor said:
Your country needs to support CDMA to use the EVO, IT IS NOT GSM COMPATIBLE!
If you would like an Android GSM phone with a 4.3'' screen, why not go for the HTC Desire HD?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes, of course i'm aware of that. desire hd is not an option because it's not released yet here and even if it is, the price is out of my range.
"desire hd is not an option because it's not released yet here"
Well, your country doesn't have any CDMA network. And... The EVO 4G is available ?
The real question : do you need a phone for calling ? >> Yes or no ?
solid.snake said:
"desire hd is not an option because it's not released yet here"
Well, your country doesn't have any CDMA network. And... The EVO 4G is available ?
The real question : do you need a phone for calling ? >> Yes or no ?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
my country indeed has a CDMA network. used one myself. what my country doesn't have is a 4g network. people buy evo from other countries. it's not officially released.
having used an evo i can tell you the is little to no speed difference. If you dont mind wating for the issues we're currently having with android to be resolved then no it isnt worth it. If you cant wait any longer then go for the evo.
dan138zig said:
my country indeed has a CDMA network. used one myself. what my country doesn't have is a 4g network. people buy evo from other countries. it's not officially released.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
CDMA networks operate in different bands in various parts of the world. you need to check with the local operator ( Pele....?) what bands he operates and buy only a compatible unit
paulmor said:
CDMA networks operate in different bands in various parts of the world. you need to check with the local operator ( Pele....?) what bands he operates and buy only a compatible unit
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yes i know. evo works in my country.
Just in case you talk about Pelephone (Israel), while the Evo should, indeed, be compatible with Pelephone's CDMA network, good luck convincing Pelephone to put you on it. And, while their CDMA network is currently fully operational, it kinda looks like they are more into their GSM one, and may eventually start killing the CDMA network off.
dan138zig said:
Hi, I'm wondering is it worth it to splash $50 to buy an used Evo after selling my HD2? The thing is I want Android with 4.3" screen but I don't know if Android on HD2 is good enough compared to a real Android phone. So what do you think? Would there be a perfect Android ROM that'd make HD2 the same as any Android phone? One more factor to consider, my country doesn't support 4G. Thanks.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
first, have you tried android on hd2?...if not, try the mdeejay revolution 2.3 build...it is based on the evo kernel, works perfect
According to a couple of people here the DHD can work for tmo ON 3G in the states if you unlock the sim apparently how much of this is true?
Dhd works on gsm. Any septic supplier on gsm will provide service. Just like any other gsm phone. I sent ny dhd to canada and it worked great with Rogers and telus.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
Did 3g work? Or edge?
It never ceases to amaze me how many people ask this question when the information is so easily obtained. In the spirit of you asking a question which has been addressed countless times on XDA forums in general, I will not provide you with an answer but the tools to find them.
Go here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
...and match with what you find here:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=2598&c=htc_desire_hd_a9191_htc_ace
Hint: btw "UMTS" means 3g freq.
Ya. It worked in Mexico, L.A., and Vancouver. I didn't use it much ad T-Mobile U.K. charges £7.50 per mb downloaded when you're roaming. I used a Mexican sim and a Canadian sim and it all worked. Gsm is normal in Europe. Cmda only seems to be in the states from what I've seen. Sorry sprint hero and evo users, I'de never heard of a phone without a sim abd that's coming from a Canadian across the Atlantic living in London.
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
ok, i am pretty happy with my x10a but will be travelling to key west florida in about a month. what id like to know is whats the latest android device in the usa with a hard keyboard? ive heard about the droid global but not much. im asking because i am from canada and we are always 6+ months behind cell technology so id like to pickup a new device as good or better than the x10. i do a massive amount of texting which is why im thinking of the hard keyboard option. i am also with rogers canada so i would need advice as to what phones would even be compatible on their network, and obiously be able to sim unlock it.
i look forward to your guys opinion, as im lost on devices outside of canada thanks guys!
sent from my 2.2 x10 aosp
ptesmoke said:
im asking because i am from canada and we are always 6+ months behind cell technology
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The U.S. is 2 years behind. So you are lucky!
You are probably better off getting advice from people in Europe/Asia/Middle East. They get all the good stuff before us is North America.
batman_112 said:
The U.S. is 2 years behind. So you are lucky!
You are probably better off getting advice from people in Europe/Asia/Middle East. They get all the good stuff before us is North America.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
lol ok i meant 6+ more than the usa, while id love some of the toys asia, europe etc has, id really like to buy a new device while in the u.s. what carrier is gsm? att right?
sent from my 2.2 x10 aosp
currently on Rogers there is nothing special .
ptesmoke said:
lol ok i meant 6+ more than the usa, while id love some of the toys asia, europe etc has, id really like to buy a new device while in the u.s. what carrier is gsm? att right?
sent from my 2.2 x10 aosp
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
at&t and T-Mobile are both GSM. You will get EDGE working on both of them but, they use different bands for 3G.
batman_112 said:
at&t and T-Mobile are both GSM. You will get EDGE working on both of them but, they use different bands for 3G.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
so att and tmobile use different 3g bands than rogers? i understand rogers is 850 and 1900mhz for both gsm and umts...
to the guy above yea rogers doesnt have anything exciting atm
sent from my 2.2 x10 aosp
ptesmoke said:
so att and tmobile use different 3g bands than rogers?
to the guy above yea rogers doesnt have anything exciting atm
sent from my 2.2 x10 aosp
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For 3G, at&t and Rogers use the same band, I think 800/850/1900. T-mobile uses a different band, I think 900/1700. Most European/Asian/Middle Eastern countries use 2100. South America and Australia, use a mix of both depending on the operator.
batman_112 said:
For 3G, at&t and Rogers use the same band, I think 800/850/1900. T-mobile uses a different band, I think 900/1700.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
ahh i see, so i guess i would have to buy an att device, and it would have to be sim unlocked too right?
sent from my 2.2 x10 aosp
ptesmoke said:
ahh i see, so i guess i would have to buy an att device, and it would have to be sim unlocked too right?
sent from my 2.2 x10 aosp
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, definitely SIM unlocked so you can switch between Rogers and at&t.
so i guess im at the point in finding out if att sells anything better than the x10. since i do still enjoy my x10 it would have to be equal or better in specs imo.
sent from my 2.2 x10 aosp
any suggestions?
sent from my 2.2 x10 aosp
ptesmoke said:
so i guess im at the point in finding out if att sells anything better than the x10. since i do still enjoy my x10 it would have to be equal or better in specs imo.
sent from my 2.2 x10 aosp
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you can get any phone and use htccode to sim unlock it, that would give you a better range of options to pick from
ptesmoke said:
any suggestions?
sent from my 2.2 x10 aosp
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You could go into a AT&T store while you are here, and get a free "GO" phone which is a monthly prepaid thing for your stay. And get a Google Voice number before you leave.
Leave the X10 connected and set it to forward the calls to the Google Voice (I don't know if Rogers would charge you for this or you would need a US google number or not) and link the Google Voice to your temporary Go phone. Depending on how much you were willing to pay, you could get a free flip phone or pay for anything up to a blackberry.
You would need access at least once to a PC after getting the phone to reconfigure Google to transfer the calls and SMS the phone with the texted version of any voice message.
Even Walmart has these too: http://www.walmart.com/ip/AT-T-Nokia-C3-Prepaid-GoPhone-Blue/15140306
the HTC desire Z seems like a viable option!
To be honest rogers had the x10 before att got it. They aren't that far behind the north American curve, but if you want a good phone, get a bell desire z. Then unlock it. The bell one has a front facing camera and it'll work on rogers. Plus it has the hard fold out keyboard.
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
alankstiyo said:
you can get any phone and use htccode to sim unlock it, that would give you a better range of options to pick from
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
right but im looking for a replacement so id need a device that would work on the rogers bands. desire z eh? well i wont buy from bell, they overcharge for everything. whats the selling points on the desire z? and who sells them in the key west area that would work on rogers?
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
badhobz said:
To be honest rogers had the x10 before att got it. They aren't that far behind the north American curve, but if you want a good phone, get a bell desire z. Then unlock it. The bell one has a front facing camera and it'll work on rogers. Plus it has the hard fold out keyboard.
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yea rogers was quick with the x10 but that was about it! they seem to be pushing the crapple4 lately, they keep offering me deals on them but they dont realize theyd have to pay ME to take one..
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
ok well since looking at bell canadas site the z does look tempting, but 499.99? if theres a carrier in florida that sells the same model id bet i could get it there for a little cheaper, anyone agree? or is bell canada the only carrier with the z? or should i also just wait 6 months for all the new fancy droids to hit the markets?
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
ptesmoke said:
ok well since looking at bell canadas site the z does look tempting, but 499.99? if theres a carrier in florida that sells the same model id bet i could get it there for a little cheaper, anyone agree? or is bell canada the only carrier with the z? or should i also just wait 6 months for all the new fancy droids to hit the markets?
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Do not forget warranty too? Getting if from the big 3 will get you warranty work if you need it. Otherwise you will have to ship it out and hope all goes well
Rockjock007 said:
Do not forget warranty too? Getting if from the big 3 will get you warranty work if you need it. Otherwise you will have to ship it out and hope all goes well
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well im not worried about warranty as ive never used it, i usually buy a new device every year anyways. but i need to figure out if i can find a desire z in the u. s for cheaper..
Sent from my X10i using XDA App
Sorry if this has been answered but I'm on the xda app and can't search. I'm thinking about getting this phone and unlocking it to work on T-Mobiles network. How cross compatible is it? Will it work with the T-Mobile "4G"?
Sent from my HD2 using XDA App
Lint6 said:
Sorry if this has been answered but I'm on the xda app and can't search. I'm thinking about getting this phone and unlocking it to work on T-Mobiles network. How cross compatible is it? Will it work with the T-Mobile "4G"?
Sent from my HD2 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nope, you will only get 2G (EDGE).
t-mobile and at&t use different 3G frequencies, so if you unlock it you will only get EDGE speeds. Not worthy IMO, you have lots of options in your country, i would recommend to wait for the samsung galaxy s II phone.
Will work on the network but data will be at Edge speeds, not 4G.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App
Just get the new nexus s and enjoy 2.3.3 and new nfc features and 3 axis gyroscope for wii like control over games and updates first and super Smiled screen lol
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
nucentury08 said:
Just get the new nexus s and enjoy 2.3.3 and new nfc features and 3 axis gyroscope for wii like control over games and updates first and super Smiled screen lol
Sent from my Nexus S using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
On the new Nexus S - if you run out of internal storage - what size memory card can you add? Oh, wait they left off the SD card slot on that model. But those super AMOLED screens are really easy on the battery right? Oh wait, if the screen is black they use less juice but not otherwise.
Sorry, had to pick on you. Suffered with the captivate for 8 months..... yeah i drank the Koolaid - now i know better - but samsung sure can spin it.
alphadog00 said:
On the new Nexus S - if you run out of internal storage - what size memory card can you add? Oh, wait they left off the SD card slot on that model. But those super AMOLED screens are really easy on the battery right? Oh wait, if the screen is black they use less juice but not otherwise.
Sorry, had to pick on you. Suffered with the captivate for 8 months..... yeah i drank the Koolaid - now i know better - but samsung sure can spin it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just ignore him, hes been trolling all over the Atrix forums. The gyroscope in his phone apparently makes his keyboard so fast that he cant use punctuation.
Unfortunately NOT ...
Inspite every where they said you'll only get EDGE , I Saw one guy saying he got 4G on simple mobile which uses the TMO towers sometimes (both have same frequencies)!!!
I bought the ATRIX on TMO and for 2 days now only EDGE
nuoten18 said:
Unfortunately NOT ...
Inspite every where they said you'll only get EDGE , I Saw one guy saying he got 4G on simple mobile which uses the TMO towers sometimes (both have same frequencies)!!!
I bought the ATRIX on TMO and for 2 days now only EDGE
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
nowhere do they say you can use an att phone on t mobile 3G. it's been known for years that their frequencies are different and incompatible. you just didn't do your homework before purchasing.
I knew 99% it won't work but i took the challenge anyway ..
dLo GSR said:
nowhere do they say you can use an att phone on t mobile 3G. it's been known for years that their frequencies are different and incompatible. you just didn't do your homework before purchasing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
don't judge me ... I did my homework
... Just kinding
Actually make search for (atrix on t mobile) you'll find another disscussion about the same topic and will find the guy that I menstioned before ...
As New user I'm not allowed to post links but that what he said exactly
"Yo I got it to work with simple mobile with their 4g. Just go to gsmhosting forums and buy a code from their advertised sites. They email it to you in 5 minutes, just input imei and that it."
nuoten18 said:
Actually make search for (atrix on t mobile) you'll find another disscussion about the same topic and will find the guy that I menstioned before ...
As New user I'm not allowed to post links but that what he said exactly
"Yo I got it to work with simple mobile with their 4g. Just go to gsmhosting forums and buy a code from their advertised sites. They email it to you in 5 minutes, just input imei and that it."
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That code process is to unlock the phone to enable it to be used with networks other than AT&T. But that doesn't get you data speed any faster than 2G/Edge using an Atrix on T-Mobile's network.
I'm a little confused here. You guys are saying that the Atrix will only get 2G/EDGE speeds on TMobile because the frequencies are different.
I am currently using the Nexus One.. how is it that I'm getting 3G speeds with a phone that is compatible with both AT&T and TMobile then??
Doesnt this mean that the Atrix should be able to get 3G speeds as long as it has the appropriate software? or am I not understanding something..
There are 2 kinds of nexus ones.. one with AWS bands (tmobile) and one with the regular 850/1900 (ATT). That's why you see them work on both tmobile and att. But a single device won't work on both bands.
It is a hardware issue. No software flashing will be able to fix it. If you bought the wrong one then you're stuck with it.
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk
nuoten18 said:
don't judge me ... I did my homework
... Just kinding
Actually make search for (atrix on t mobile) you'll find another disscussion about the same topic and will find the guy that I menstioned before ...
As New user I'm not allowed to post links but that what he said exactly
"Yo I got it to work with simple mobile with their 4g. Just go to gsmhosting forums and buy a code from their advertised sites. They email it to you in 5 minutes, just input imei and that it."
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
False. There's not a chance in the world that is true. T-Mo USA and AT&T use mutually exclusive bands. No carrier-branded phones carry both bands. The only modern phone that carries bands necessary for 3/4G on either network would be the upcoming, not-for-sale/developer-only Nokia N950.
deduction said:
False. There's not a chance in the world that is true. T-Mo USA and AT&T use mutually exclusive bands. No carrier-branded phones carry both bands. The only modern phone that carries bands necessary for 3/4G on either network would be the upcoming, not-for-sale/developer-only Nokia N950.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Nokia N8 and E7 also have the 3G frequencies necessary for both At&t and T-mobile, as well as Europe/Asia (850/900/1700/1900/2100). However, I agree with you that no At&t/T-mobile branded device carries all the needed bands.
http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-Touchscreen-Featuring-Navigation-Camera-U-S/dp/B003ZX7RL4
http://www.amazon.com/Nokia-Unlocked-Touchscreen-Navigation-Camera-U-S/dp/B0046LTU9G
Vibrant can be used on T-Mo and AT&T as well
bimmerboii said:
There are 2 kinds of nexus ones.. one with AWS bands (tmobile) and one with the regular 850/1900 (ATT). That's why you see them work on both tmobile and att. But a single device won't work on both bands.
It is a hardware issue. No software flashing will be able to fix it. If you bought the wrong one then you're stuck with it.
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Ah, I see. I didnt realize that there are 2 types of the Nexus One.
I had assumed that since they are not branded by any carriers that they were all the same device.
Thanks
I was really hoping to have my TZones internet plan, which runs at 3G speeds on the Nexus, run on an unlocked Atrix but that doesn't look possible.
Are there any phones newer than the Nexus One that will work with Tmobile 3G and are unbranded by Tmobile?
The branded Tmo android phones lock out my Tzones.
Enforcerman said:
Ah, I see. I didnt realize that there are 2 types of the Nexus One.
I had assumed that since they are not branded by any carriers that they were all the same device.
Thanks
I was really hoping to have my TZones internet plan, which runs at 3G speeds on the Nexus, run on an unlocked Atrix but that doesn't look possible.
Are there any phones newer than the Nexus One that will work with Tmobile 3G and are unbranded by Tmobile?
The branded Tmo android phones lock out my Tzones.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Here's a list of phones that will work with tmobile 3G. Take your pick. You may have to source it from somewhere else if you wish to buy it unlocked and unbranded.
The Nexus S is unlocked and unbranded even if you get it from tmobile. But since you are coming from the Nexus One, it is up to you if its worth the upgrade. Other than the Nexus S, have a look at dual core phones.
http://www.gsmarena.com/results.php...nes=0&sColor=&StandBy=0&TalkTime=0&sFreeText=
Atrix on t-mobile
i am currently running atrix 4g on system version 4.5.141 and android version 2.3.6.. I am rooted and have and unlocked boot loader. I also got the unlock code for my phone and it was successful and i am now running T-mobile sim chip i am only getting the Edge .. I have a thought as if you could change the phone frequency settings with sqlite editor i mean if you can disable the entitlement_check to enable theathering with AT&T's 2gb plan then we should be able to figure out how to change the frequency ratings of the phone to be able to run on t-mobiles 4g ... I wish that someone with a little more Knowledge could help out with this..