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Hulu Denies Android 2.2 Flash Player!?!? MUST SEE

So reading up on this. It is not official that I know of at this moment.
But hulu was a no show for Google I/O 2010, and this was found
TECH.ICRONTIC.COM----Hulu is another big name at the top of everyone’s list when Flash is mentioned, but they’ve decided to sit this one out. Hulu has blocked Android 2.2’s Flash player citing copyright concerns; their content providers don’t want to be seen on any device but the desktop.
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PC WORLD.COM---Missing from all of this Flash action, of course, is Hulu. I was really disappointed when I tried-and ultimately failed-to watch an episode of "30 Rock" on the Nexus One. According to Adobe, Hulu does not own distribution rights for their content on mobile devices and therefore cannot stream video to smartphones. With no Hulu on the iPad and no Hulu on your Android phone, isn't time for Hulu to develop an app? Let's hope so.
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ENGADGET.COM---Also not on the docket? Hulu -- it's being blocked due to content licensing issues, and our inquiries with that company turned up nil.
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http://tech.icrontic.com/news/android-2-2-is-official-froyos-features-and-phones-revealed/
http://www.pcworld.com/article/196727/first_look_android_22_froyo_with_flash_player_101.html
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/20/flash-10-1-for-android-beta-unveiled-hulu-a-no-show-froyo-now/
UPDATE: The news seems to be true, as I am awaiting an email from HULU. Will post ASAP
Update: Hulu is refusing to comment, however you cannot play hulu on android flash. BUT there is a trick...See here

Apparently Hulu doesn't have the rights to broadcast their content to any non-desktop devices. That's something they'll have to sort out with the networks.

They also go on to say that this could very well be a temporary lock as Flash hasn't hit the mobile market in full yet. Once it's out on the handsets (~Jun 17th) that lock will probably be lifted. Also, I wouldn't worry so much. If you have a rooted phone, you can always use a proxy and change your UserAgent to something that is supported.

Change your user agent to desktop (through about:debug) and it loads fine.
The videos play badly though. Audio comes in clear, but the framerate is terrible, more like a slideshow.

mortzz said:
Change your user agent to desktop (through about:debug) and it loads fine.
The videos play badly though. Audio comes in clear, but the framerate is terrible, more like a slideshow.
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Which browser are you using on the Nexus that you have the about:debug option?

mortzz said:
Change your user agent to desktop (through about:debug) and it loads fine.
The videos play badly though. Audio comes in clear, but the framerate is terrible, more like a slideshow.
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Be curious to see the result on froyo.

chesh420 said:
Which browser are you using on the Nexus that you have the about:debug option?
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Stock Chrome browser. Type that in, hit enter, and go to settings. All the way at the bottom you have the option to change your user agent (among other things) to Android, Desktop (as OSX IIRC), and iPhone.
krabman said:
Be curious to see the result on froyo.
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This is of Froyo, but it's an early non accelerated Flashplayer 10.1

I've read hulu blocks all non-desktop users because they can't control who see's it. Technically I think it is only legal for U.S. residents to watch the shows on hulu and if it is a mobile phone they can't detect where they are.

bougelahi said:
I've read hulu blocks all non-desktop users because they can't control who see's it. Technically I think it is only legal for U.S. residents to watch the shows on hulu and if it is a mobile phone they can't detect where they are.
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They detect through IP address though.

mortzz said:
Stock Chrome browser. Type that in, hit enter, and go to settings. All the way at the bottom you have the option to change your user agent (among other things) to Android, Desktop (as OSX IIRC), and iPhone.
This is of Froyo, but it's an early non accelerated Flashplayer 10.1
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Hrm, not working for me. Must be cause of the tweaks done in the Cyanogen builds. When I click Go, it just goes back to the last web page I viewed and does nothing.

chesh420 said:
Hrm, not working for me. Must be cause of the tweaks done in the Cyanogen builds. When I click Go, it just goes back to the last web page I viewed and does nothing.
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It's not supposed to do anything. Go to settings after you hit enter.

Back on topic please

mortzz said:
They detect through IP address though.
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not if you use your wifi.
chesh420 said:
Hrm, not working for me. Must be cause of the tweaks done in the Cyanogen builds. When I click Go, it just goes back to the last web page I viewed and does nothing.
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you have to type that in, then go to your browser settings and you have new options to pick. UAstring is at the bottom. the stock browser has always had this trick.

http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=371
Video of Hulu working on a Nexus One running froyo and flash 10.1... interesting.

pjcforpres said:
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=371
Video of Hulu working on a Nexus One running froyo and flash 10.1... interesting.
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Sorry to kill your post, but you never see a hulu video working. This actually supports that HULU is not letting us view vids

Hulu is likely finishing their pay subscription licensing issues before rolling out full video support to mobile devices.
I'd be surprised if they werent working on both at the same time. Hopefully we will see the mobile audience addressed when the "new" Hulu is released.

spazoid said:
Sorry to kill your post, but you never see a hulu video working. This actually supports that HULU is not letting us view vids
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He only had XX amount of time for the video and didn't want to waste it waiting for it to load, if you read the article he says it did load and play the video, he just had to move on during the filming since he wanted to show other stuff on the video.
Edit: Here is the quote:
"I then visited Hulu.com. All of the content on Hulu.com worked as intended by the designers of the web site. I was able to navigate and play various videos with few problems. Video playback worked just as it does on a desktop web browser. I did the same with MTVMusic.com, which is a great place to watch music videos for free. All the video played just fine."
I frequent that site a fair ammount, and their review videos follow the same format, they don't like waiting for stuff to happen, and they try and keep them inside a time limit... we asked about it once, and they said they like to keep their videos to 7 minutes or less.
I also asked in the "discuss" tab about it, for further clarification. They respond pretty quickly, but might not until tomorrow since it is late in the day.

RogerPodacter said:
not if you use your wifi.
you have to type that in, then go to your browser settings and you have new options to pick. UAstring is at the bottom. the stock browser has always had this trick.
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Right, which was my point. They're not going to be blocking mobile users by IP addresses, which is their only method of blocking aside from user agents (which are easily spoofed).

I can also watch Hulu videos on the Desire ROM, with Dolphin Browser HD (which uses the Flash 10 Lite from the ROM) and by setting my user agent to 'Desktop'. Apparently they haven't made all the proper modifications to block us entirely.

mortzz said:
Right, which was my point. They're not going to be blocking mobile users by IP addresses, which is their only method of blocking aside from user agents (which are easily spoofed).
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Have you implied you have FroYo earlier? If you do, then please please dump for us ... you know what I mean.

Hulu?!

Ok, I know that Hulu blocked mobile browsers from viewing its videos, but that 2.2 users can get around this with "about:debug" in their browser window. The command, however, doesn't seem to be working on my Evo.
I tried disabling Sense, which was easy, but no luck on getting around the Hulu block...
Anyone have any suggestions or tricks they've gotten to work?

I think your best bet is to wait for Froyo on this device.

My soul cried.
Yet my determination remains!

Tried to change the user agent in dolphin browser hd to desktop, but still wont work
Sent from my HTC Evo 4G using Tapatalk

nachyochez said:
Ok, I know that Hulu blocked mobile browsers from viewing its videos, but that 2.2 users can get around this with "about:debug" in their browser window. The command, however, doesn't seem to be working on my Evo.
I tried disabling Sense, which was easy, but no luck on getting around the Hulu block...
Anyone have any suggestions or tricks they've gotten to work?
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I thought that the reason users on froyo could get it working was because froyo supports flash 10.1 or whatever, not because they changed the browser settings.

The Evo also supports Flash!
The issue is Hulu blocked all mobile devices from accessing their vids. The player will load, but it won't actually put the video up for watching...
Froyo users where (I've been told they can't now and a new work around is needed?) able to trick their browser into thinking they where on a desktop and then watch Hulu as per normal. The menu settings for this, however, is not on the Evo

just an idea i have noticed. hulu does NOT block mobile devices. i know they say they do and all but its weird. using my devices ip from sprint and all the device info i can stream hulu on my laptop threw my phone. sooo if they block mobile devices they would be blocking the browser config (i.e.-opera mini, android.)
now with all that said, another reason i dont believe it is because i did get hulu to stream way back when the eris 2.1 leak with flash came out. i watched family guy on my phone threw hulu. it was slow and horribly nasty looking and small. but it worked.
so theres some thoughts on hulu.

i hope you all can get this working..
it would be great!

Avalaunchmods said:
just an idea i have noticed. hulu does NOT block mobile devices. i know they say they do and all but its weird. using my devices ip from sprint and all the device info i can stream hulu on my laptop threw my phone. sooo if they block mobile devices they would be blocking the browser config (i.e.-opera mini, android.)
now with all that said, another reason i dont believe it is because i did get hulu to stream way back when the eris 2.1 leak with flash came out. i watched family guy on my phone threw hulu. it was slow and horribly nasty looking and small. but it worked.
so theres some thoughts on hulu.
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They are just checking the string agent of your browser dude.

I think it has to be deeper than the string. From what I understand, when the Incredible came out, people were able to get Hulu to work with a little finesse and user-agent strings. However no amount of finagling has gotten Hulu to work on my EVO.

i tried it with my pro2 on skyfire browser. the hulu site stated that the browser was using a proxy server and assumed i may have been from outside the US trying to stream... i got reallllllll close though.. i saw the slide animations on the home page...

you'll need froyo, and the workaround flash in the nexus forums, as well as changing user agest to desktop using about:debug
it should work then. does on my nexus

What do you mean by "the workaround flash in the nexus forums"?

khov07 said:
What do you mean by "the workaround flash in the nexus forums"?
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search. there is a modified flash apk that will allow use of hulu. you still have to do the ua string change, but otherwise it works.
and keep it on the down low, just here at xda please. last time it flew out to engadget that there was a workaround, hulu shut it down.

On my Nexus One hulu loads, runs videos for about 15 minutes (ok video quality, poor sound quality(skipping)) and then stops. Navigating their flash based controls is very difficult. So you won't be missing much with EVO .

stock browser-FINALLY FOUND A WAY TO CHANGE USERAGENT!!

so far i have tested this on two different froyo build browsers and they both work
in the address bar type about:useragent theres a couple different things you can change it to
i also have a stock browser that i modified with a bigger apn file and it just seems to work all around better.

di11igaf said:
so far i have tested this on two different froyo build browsers and they both work
in the address bar type about:useragent theres a couple different things you can change it to
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Changed mine to desktop... it works fine thus far. None of my favorite sites are trying to pull up the mobile version.

try hulu.com and see if that works.

madjsp said:
try hulu.com and see if that works.
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Hulu still gave me the "your using android" message when I set it to desktop.

Changed to Desktop and hulu reported non-supported browser. Sorry.

same here.
Thanks!
i dont use hulu, but it would be nice.

Got a sec to try grooveshark.com? Can't get a desktop browser agent string at the moment...

every time I select desktop it doesn't save it and goes right back to custom. Any help?

rsohne said:
Changed to Desktop and hulu reported non-supported browser. Sorry.
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When I started loading a video Hulu said it is not supported on this platform.
I don't think it is a browser issue... what player does Hulu use?

Mine continues to go back to custom after I leave the menu. Still being sent to wap sites which is getting really annoying.

p4ranoid4ndroid said:
Mine continues to go back to custom after I leave the menu. Still being sent to wap sites which is getting really annoying.
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goes back to custom, but keeps the useragent the same for desktop (or whatever you picked.
mtv.com and southparkstudios finally loads full sites
thanks OP

I have a browser that is modified.
The settings for useragent are in the regulare settings menu.

tjsooley said:
I have a browser that is modified.
The settings for useragent are in the regulare settings menu.
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have the apk by any chance?

This is a froyo browser.
This does work for hulu.
I tested it 2 days ago.

tjsooley said:
This is a froyo browser.
This does work for hulu.
I tested it 2 days ago.
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thanks much, do you know if this apk is deodexed?

andy2na said:
thanks much, do you know if this apk is deodexed?
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yes it has.

Just installed this.. Hulu does not work.

tjsooley said:
This is a froyo browser.
This does work for hulu.
I tested it 2 days ago.
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And what (if any) differences there are between this and the stock Samsung FroYo browser?
Also, I believe Hulu enforces viewing policy based on information it receives from Flash itself, not based on the browser user agent. Hence, different browsers/UAs shouldn't matter.
I can confirm that the "about:useragent" trick works on Cognition Beta 2.2 v9. Only problem is it doesn't persist if the browser is restarted. Still very useful though.

Shammyh said:
And what (if any) differences there are between this and the stock Samsung FroYo browser?
Also, I believe Hulu enforces viewing policy based on information it receives from Flash itself, not based on the browser user agent. Hence, different browser/UAs shouldn't matter.
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Looks like the color scheme is diff. UA aAgent is now in the settings pane.

andy2na said:
goes back to custom, but keeps the useragent the same for desktop (or whatever you picked.
mtv.com and southparkstudios finally loads full sites
thanks OP
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So jealous. Ive been wanting this fix just for southparkstudios and still isnt working for me.

[Q] x 3 - practical ones :-)

Hi,
since few of you actually have Xoom maybe you can tell me:
1. Is it getting warm/hot under load (games/video playback)?
2. Are you able to access and listen for free grooveshark?
3. Can built in mail client work with windowslive account (if not, since this is my main one - what should I use beside website)?

galtom said:
Hi,
3. Can built in mail client work with windowslive account (if not, since this is my main one - what should I use beside website)?
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Hotmail accounts (hotmail.com, live.com and such) will work with exchange on Xoom/iPad. Leave the domain empty and enter m.hotmail.com in the server.
let me know if this helps

Groveshark
The tablet dose not have flash yet so at this time can not load up the groveshark website. Most of the website is HTML but the player is flash.

VanVlack said:
The tablet dose not have flash yet so at this time can not load up the groveshark website. Most of the website is HTML but the player is flash.
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My bad I do know about Flash... but somehow (flash=video) I did not thought about it...
Are there any predictions in regard of hulu?
Wull Xoom with flash be able to access hulu for free like pc or just hulu plus like iPad?

we'll know for sure when adobe gets their act together

galtom said:
My bad I do know about Flash... but somehow (flash=video) I did not thought about it...
Are there any predictions in regard of hulu?
Wull Xoom with flash be able to access hulu for free like pc or just hulu plus like iPad?
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There is no way humanly possible that Hulu will allow that. You will have to run some sort of hacked flash to even consider getting Hulu to work through the website.

Playon, that is all

galtom said:
Hi,
since few of you actually have Xoom maybe you can tell me:
1. Is it getting warm/hot under load (games/video playback)?
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Have been playing with mine since launch... and no it does not get warm at all and I hope stays like that

4music is an android and iPhone app that is good for making online playlists and listening to the for free. Its not as nice as grooveshark but it works the same.
Sent from my Xoom using XDA App

Grooveshark work around

Has anyone been able to find a way to use the Grooveshark desktop site without getting the "problem loading flash" error? I have read having flash 10.2 installed and using the Dolphin browser set to desktop user agent would work, but so far have had no luck on my Xoom or D1 without getting the error message. Also tried Skyfire and the stock browser with the about:debug trick, no dice. Anyone had any better luck, or other solutions that worked?

Have you tried TinyShark on the market?

Yeah that's what I have been using lately, but I would like to be able to load my playlists and everything from the grooveshark desktop site.

Am i missing something? Why not use the Grooveshark app in the market?

matrix2004 said:
Am i missing something? Why not use the Grooveshark app in the market?
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because online its free but the app makes you upgrade.

Flaunt77 said:
because online its free but the app makes you upgrade.
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Oh ok, makes sense. I forgot i'm subscribed already.

Tinyshark lets you load your playlists too. The only benefit to the Grooveshark player is the offline cache ability. I tried it for a month and Tinyshark fit my needs just fine without paying $9 a month. When it was $3 a month it may have been worth it but triple the price and I'm out.

I think everyone that has replied has missed the point, I also am wondering if there has been a work around or if anyone is working on it, I think that with a tablet, we should be able to hit the real site and have flash work, why would we need to pay for an app or get an app that is made for small phones when we should be able to just go to the website.
I wish I was smarter with these dev things and I could work on it but I dont have the time to learn.
Hopefully someone that is reads this and wants the same thing, I love gooveshark but being that it is free from my desktop, I am not really wanting to pay for an app....
just my just my .02, thanks

Good luck man, I am hoping the update to the flash player will maybe work, but aside that I have had no luck in getting the desktop site to work on the Xoom and just started using the TinyShark app in the market. Not nearly as nice, but I will take what I can get until someone figures this out.

Flash also reports the client platform/OS, independent of the browser user agent, when connecting to a streaming server. I don't use Grooveshark, so I don't know if this is the reason you get the error, but it's a strong possibility.
Some people have had success with opening a file in Flash (first honeycomb release) in a hex editor and replacing the string "AND" (Android) with "WIN" (Windows). There were also some high jinks to get the change to persist, but a modified APK was made available that seemed to work for some users to access Hulu. I haven't followed it lately, but you could probably find more info searching for "flash for hulu".
EDIT: Here's the link: [MOD] Flash 10.2 Working HULU Updated: 4/29/11
Best case scenario is that someone has put out a modded APK for the current Flash release that also works with Grooveshark. If not, there might be another, less elegant solution.

I'm still debating on which tablet to buy xoom,asus or wait for newer models.
Does the GS app work on the honeycomb? Atrix users was complaining on their forums so that's why I'm asking