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So reading up on this. It is not official that I know of at this moment.
But hulu was a no show for Google I/O 2010, and this was found
TECH.ICRONTIC.COM----Hulu is another big name at the top of everyone’s list when Flash is mentioned, but they’ve decided to sit this one out. Hulu has blocked Android 2.2’s Flash player citing copyright concerns; their content providers don’t want to be seen on any device but the desktop.
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PC WORLD.COM---Missing from all of this Flash action, of course, is Hulu. I was really disappointed when I tried-and ultimately failed-to watch an episode of "30 Rock" on the Nexus One. According to Adobe, Hulu does not own distribution rights for their content on mobile devices and therefore cannot stream video to smartphones. With no Hulu on the iPad and no Hulu on your Android phone, isn't time for Hulu to develop an app? Let's hope so.
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ENGADGET.COM---Also not on the docket? Hulu -- it's being blocked due to content licensing issues, and our inquiries with that company turned up nil.
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http://tech.icrontic.com/news/android-2-2-is-official-froyos-features-and-phones-revealed/
http://www.pcworld.com/article/196727/first_look_android_22_froyo_with_flash_player_101.html
http://www.engadget.com/2010/05/20/flash-10-1-for-android-beta-unveiled-hulu-a-no-show-froyo-now/
UPDATE: The news seems to be true, as I am awaiting an email from HULU. Will post ASAP
Update: Hulu is refusing to comment, however you cannot play hulu on android flash. BUT there is a trick...See here
Apparently Hulu doesn't have the rights to broadcast their content to any non-desktop devices. That's something they'll have to sort out with the networks.
They also go on to say that this could very well be a temporary lock as Flash hasn't hit the mobile market in full yet. Once it's out on the handsets (~Jun 17th) that lock will probably be lifted. Also, I wouldn't worry so much. If you have a rooted phone, you can always use a proxy and change your UserAgent to something that is supported.
Change your user agent to desktop (through about:debug) and it loads fine.
The videos play badly though. Audio comes in clear, but the framerate is terrible, more like a slideshow.
mortzz said:
Change your user agent to desktop (through about:debug) and it loads fine.
The videos play badly though. Audio comes in clear, but the framerate is terrible, more like a slideshow.
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Which browser are you using on the Nexus that you have the about:debug option?
mortzz said:
Change your user agent to desktop (through about:debug) and it loads fine.
The videos play badly though. Audio comes in clear, but the framerate is terrible, more like a slideshow.
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Be curious to see the result on froyo.
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Which browser are you using on the Nexus that you have the about:debug option?
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Stock Chrome browser. Type that in, hit enter, and go to settings. All the way at the bottom you have the option to change your user agent (among other things) to Android, Desktop (as OSX IIRC), and iPhone.
krabman said:
Be curious to see the result on froyo.
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This is of Froyo, but it's an early non accelerated Flashplayer 10.1
I've read hulu blocks all non-desktop users because they can't control who see's it. Technically I think it is only legal for U.S. residents to watch the shows on hulu and if it is a mobile phone they can't detect where they are.
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I've read hulu blocks all non-desktop users because they can't control who see's it. Technically I think it is only legal for U.S. residents to watch the shows on hulu and if it is a mobile phone they can't detect where they are.
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They detect through IP address though.
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Stock Chrome browser. Type that in, hit enter, and go to settings. All the way at the bottom you have the option to change your user agent (among other things) to Android, Desktop (as OSX IIRC), and iPhone.
This is of Froyo, but it's an early non accelerated Flashplayer 10.1
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Hrm, not working for me. Must be cause of the tweaks done in the Cyanogen builds. When I click Go, it just goes back to the last web page I viewed and does nothing.
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Hrm, not working for me. Must be cause of the tweaks done in the Cyanogen builds. When I click Go, it just goes back to the last web page I viewed and does nothing.
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It's not supposed to do anything. Go to settings after you hit enter.
Back on topic please
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They detect through IP address though.
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not if you use your wifi.
chesh420 said:
Hrm, not working for me. Must be cause of the tweaks done in the Cyanogen builds. When I click Go, it just goes back to the last web page I viewed and does nothing.
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you have to type that in, then go to your browser settings and you have new options to pick. UAstring is at the bottom. the stock browser has always had this trick.
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=371
Video of Hulu working on a Nexus One running froyo and flash 10.1... interesting.
pjcforpres said:
http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=371
Video of Hulu working on a Nexus One running froyo and flash 10.1... interesting.
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Sorry to kill your post, but you never see a hulu video working. This actually supports that HULU is not letting us view vids
Hulu is likely finishing their pay subscription licensing issues before rolling out full video support to mobile devices.
I'd be surprised if they werent working on both at the same time. Hopefully we will see the mobile audience addressed when the "new" Hulu is released.
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Sorry to kill your post, but you never see a hulu video working. This actually supports that HULU is not letting us view vids
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He only had XX amount of time for the video and didn't want to waste it waiting for it to load, if you read the article he says it did load and play the video, he just had to move on during the filming since he wanted to show other stuff on the video.
Edit: Here is the quote:
"I then visited Hulu.com. All of the content on Hulu.com worked as intended by the designers of the web site. I was able to navigate and play various videos with few problems. Video playback worked just as it does on a desktop web browser. I did the same with MTVMusic.com, which is a great place to watch music videos for free. All the video played just fine."
I frequent that site a fair ammount, and their review videos follow the same format, they don't like waiting for stuff to happen, and they try and keep them inside a time limit... we asked about it once, and they said they like to keep their videos to 7 minutes or less.
I also asked in the "discuss" tab about it, for further clarification. They respond pretty quickly, but might not until tomorrow since it is late in the day.
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not if you use your wifi.
you have to type that in, then go to your browser settings and you have new options to pick. UAstring is at the bottom. the stock browser has always had this trick.
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Right, which was my point. They're not going to be blocking mobile users by IP addresses, which is their only method of blocking aside from user agents (which are easily spoofed).
I can also watch Hulu videos on the Desire ROM, with Dolphin Browser HD (which uses the Flash 10 Lite from the ROM) and by setting my user agent to 'Desktop'. Apparently they haven't made all the proper modifications to block us entirely.
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Right, which was my point. They're not going to be blocking mobile users by IP addresses, which is their only method of blocking aside from user agents (which are easily spoofed).
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Have you implied you have FroYo earlier? If you do, then please please dump for us ... you know what I mean.
Even with UAString/Desktop. Anyone else experiencing this?
Anyone have some ideas on a new way to enable it?
Yup me too
ditto here
da bastids.
Well [email protected]#!
There go my plans of showing off today
I wonder, can the FULL user agent string be changed and them boom, Hulu is back?
Paul22000 said:
Well [email protected]#!
There go my plans of showing off today
I wonder, can the FULL user agent string be changed and them boom, Hulu is back?
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Unless you can add a JS script string to do it, it doesn't look like it without a hack of some sort.
Really don't what is the big deal with them blocking it. I mean I know that they don't have "mobile licensing" or whatever but it's not like there are millions of Nexus One owners out there...
I'm pretty sure they realized what we were doing and did the smart thing. All they have to do is check your flash version and if you're on a 10.1 then they can block it. Nothing you can do to change that, that I know of.
its all the news websites fault..sometimes they should just keep things on the down low
Man this is sad news
To be honest, I am shocked that hulu didn't have adobe flag the android flash player with a unique id to fully prevent users from sidestepping with something as simple as user agent modification.
compile flash with client=android101 and have hulu check against client strings. Done and done.
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its all the news websites fault..sometimes they should just keep things on the down low
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Really don't what is the big deal with them blocking it. I mean I know that they don't have "mobile licensing" or whatever but it's not like there are millions of Nexus One owners out there...
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*facepalm*
i did the about:debug thingy and it worked. Closed browser went back and it didnt work. I then re did the about:debug thing and it worked again. It seems for me everytime i close browser i have to redo the UA strings. Even when I go in, it is already clicked on desktop mode i still click it and again and it works
There gotta be a way around this. Any identifying string can be changed. Unless they are blocking by Sprint's mobile IP range. Did anyone get to work over wifi?
firebrain said:
There gotta be a way around this. Any identifying string can be changed. Unless they are blocking by Sprint's mobile IP range. Did anyone get to work over wifi?
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does not work over wifi
Is there Fiddler equivalent for android
There gotta be a way around it
The prob w/ Skyfire is that all data comes from one or a couple of IPs and PS3 isnt open.
My best guess is that after the official flash release (sometime in june i believe) you will see some sorta partnership between hulu and google.
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My best guess is that after the official flash release (sometime in june i believe) you will see some sorta partnership between hulu and google.
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Not if the real story is about Hulu's rights to distribute. They might not actually be bastids.
Spoof the Flash
You need to spoof the Flash player version.
Test it here http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/155/tn_15507.html
The nexus one
Flash player version is "AND 10,1,61,68"
Operating system is "Linux 26.32.9-27220-"
Work laptop
Flash player version is "WIN 10,0,32,18"
Operating system is "Windows XP"
If you can figure out how to spoof these setting, more than likely you will not have any issues reaching Hulu.
I for one, do not know how to do it. But this is a good start
Here is a start...
http://superuser.com/questions/91176/spoofing-flash-version
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You need to spoof the Flash player version.
Test it here http://kb2.adobe.com/cps/155/tn_15507.html
The nexus one
Flash player version is "AND 10,1,61,68"
Operating system is "Linux 26.32.9-27220-"
Work laptop
Flash player version is "WIN 10,0,32,18"
Operating system is "Windows XP"
If you can figure out how to spoof these setting, more than likely you will not have any issues reaching Hulu.
I for one, do not know how to do it. But this is a good start
Here is a start...
http://superuser.com/questions/91176/spoofing-flash-version
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That's probably coming from the flash player itself, which is not open source.
2Where can I buy the tv out cable for G2? I saw the htc commercial where it shows the phone plug to an hd tv with an hdmi cable for the phone now I would like to know where to buy this, anyone know please let me know I would love to hook it up to my tv to watch movies on my tv
nope we don't have tv out. you could load it up as a usb storage then use it and we might be able to dlna not too sure
Yeah I'm pretty sure it does not have TV out... Unless its hidden deep in the hardware somewhere, like the Nexus One had the FM tuner that modders were eventually able to find, access, and use.
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nope we don't have tv out. you could load it up as a usb storage then use it and we might be able to dlna not too sure
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Well I saw the commercial and the phone had tv out there we just need the htc media link and I would like to know where to get it
Here is the commercial
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUeW6-HTtSU&feature=related
See we do have tv out
That video is pretty clear it's the Desire Z... not the "Tmobile G2"
But that's DNLA, not a cable too
How can we get "Locations"?
its the same phone. and the commercial does clearly state that if you tv isnt dnla compatable, its ok cuz you can use htc media link. it shows the phone with a wire plugged in.
i'm going to keep my eye on this. maybe its a sense thing?
Probably. The screen it shows where they select HDTV has got to be something on the ROM if they're advertising it out of the box. Hopefully in Cyanogen
coming soon
engadget.com/2010/11/11/htc-media-link-dlna-media-streamer-dances-through-the-fcc-with-8/
I'd say this should work just fine
Can someone tell me the diff between dlna and tv out? sorry I'm a noob lol
I think you were looking for this.
http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/11/htc-media-link-dlna-media-streamer-dances-through-the-fcc-with-8/
damn too slow lol, thank kcjnz
androidFTW718 said:
Can someone tell me the diff between dlna and tv out? sorry I'm a noob lol
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http://www.dlna.org/digital_living/how_it_works/
I was going to post about this as well... my brotehr told me about an app called Boxxe last night and I do not ahve an HDMI out on my laptop as well... So this was really bothering me that nither my phone or laptop had one. Please keep this tread going... Also in that video there a quite a few features that i don't see with my g2... like taging people on FB? anyone else notice this?
The phone can tag people on facebook tho. Go to the desktop facebook and just like in a real browser click tag and tap where you want to tag people those are the wonders of flash on a mobile. What good is the web without flash lmao that was for apple right there. After I got use to flash on a phone... man I can't use nothing else, I had my friends iphone 4 and I notice how crappy are webpages without flash! Thank you android you are the BEST!
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The phone can tag people on facebook tho. Go to the desktop facebook and just like in a real browser click tag and tap where you want to tag people those are the wonders of flash on a mobile. What good is the web without flash lmao that was for apple right there. After I got use to flash on a phone... man I can't use nothing else, I had my friends iphone 4 and I notice how crappy are webpages without flash! Thank you android you are the BEST!
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Am I a tard i still can't find how to tag... It only says upload to FB and other sites when i click share... Do I need to have signed up with HTCsense or something?
No ypu don't need sense all you need is to go to the website on desktop mode and find the tagging link than just tap the on the pic to tag is that simple. If the browser sends you to mobile version just download dolphin browser hd and go to settings scroll down till you find user agent and choose desktop
When I try and sign up for HTC Sense it says to go to the Setup app but i don't see anything about HTC Sense on there... geez I guess I am a tard.
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No ypu don't need sense all you need is to go to the website on desktop mode and find the tagging link than just tap the on the pic to tag is that simple. If the browser sends you to mobile version just download dolphin browser hd and go to settings scroll down till you find user agent and choose desktop
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Ok ya I am using the broswer that came with the phone... also the navigation feature where it shows calls but still has the nav up... it doesnt do that either.
tbssimp said:
Am I a tard i still can't find how to tag... It only says upload to FB and other sites when i click share... Do I need to have signed up with HTCsense or something?
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Go to facebook.com
On the bottom there is a link that says desktop mode click on it and go to the photo you want to tag
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Go to facebook.com
On the bottom there is a link that says desktop mode click on it and go to the photo you want to tag
Hope that helped.
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Went to FB.com and only see Downlaod facebook for your Galaxy Tab, Lang, Mobile Site and Full site no desktop listed... I do see if i go to mobile site it lets me tag photos.
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Went to FB.com and only see Downlaod facebook for your Galaxy Tab, Lang, Mobile Site and Full site no desktop listed... I do see if i go to mobile site it lets me tag photos.
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So. You got it now? If so cool and you can't sign in on htc sense if you don't got sense it won't work
Anyone know why the Citrix receiver force closes after entering the cloud information?
Was really hoping that I could use this for work when I'm out of the office.
It actually looks optimized for tablets...
Nope... really bumming me out
Same problem here... hopefully they fix this soon!
For me doesn't force close but after logging in the application icons are just unresponsive.
Out of curiousity are you using an AGEE? Token auth? I'm gathering details to send to the product managers.
not exactly sure to be honest... I'll give you as much as I can though...
I'm entering...
Username
Password
Domain
Description (although this doesn't matter)
I'm checking "use Citrix Access Gateway"
Gateway Type: Standard Edition
Gateway Authentication: Domain Only
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After I enter in the right info (i know this because it works on android phones fine)... it auto logs into the cloud and then FCs when I open the app.
If you need an error report... I can try to get one, otherwise let me know if you need anything else.
Thanks man.
I too am interested to see how well (if at all) this works...keep us posted...
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I too am interested to see how well (if at all) this works...keep us posted...
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I really hope this works. If you load the app you can tell instantly it loads differently than the phone version... which is sort of odd.
The other day at work a guy got the atrix and the dock... but the thing is loading anything through the phone on the laptop dock is sort of meh because it just expands it as much as it can while keeping it in the right aspect ratios.
So it stretches it out and that's about it, while running it on the phone. There is a minimal few that run on the dock fully.
So that's why I was hoping the Citrix app would run well on the Xoom. I/We can hope!
Well I tested it on my EVO, and it works perfectly. On the Xoom, it connects to my app store but the published apps themselves won't open. I can see the app list, but tapping on them does nothing. A bit odd, and no FC's.
I tried to connect using Enterprise and RSA. I got the force close after I entered my rsa and tried to connect. It thought about it for a minute and then FC. I got the same thing using the Labs Receiver.
Same issues on my end. I put in the information for our external web interface, set to Enterprise and correct auth and immediately after hitting OK I got FCs. I tried both the Citrix Receiver and Lab version, same on both.
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Well I tested it on my EVO, and it works perfectly. On the Xoom, it connects to my app store but the published apps themselves won't open. I can see the app list, but tapping on them does nothing. A bit odd, and no FC's.
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Same here, loads fine, can see my apps, but nothing launches. Works fine on my coworkers I pad, which he pointed out often and repeatedly.
I've spoken with support and opened an SR. They acknowledge it is broken and do not have an ETA for a fix
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I've spoken with support and opened an SR. They acknowledge it is broken and do not have an ETA for a fix
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Well, if Citrix support is anything like most other front-line support rep's, the person you spoke with may simply not be in the loop with software releases.
Honeycomb is begging for an update to the Citrix Receiver, it would really entice a lot of other admins like me to adopt these into the enterprise. How many of us would love to be able to whip out our tablet and remotely reboot a server?
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Out of curiousity are you using an AGEE? Token auth? I'm gathering details to send to the product managers.
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I'm gain for an update. I to am able to see apps and add them to the home page but will not open. Can't help but wonder if there is a token that needs to be imported, hummmm I guess I need to ask my admin.
Citrix update!
Notes: Support for Android 3.0 Honeycomb.
YAY!
Yep, tested and it works well.
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Citrix update!
Notes: Support for Android 3.0 Honeycomb.
YAY!
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Awesome news! Tested, working as it should!
anyone having issues with installing a trusted source certificate? like register.com. My xoom errors out saying that the certificate is not a part of the trusted store.
THRILLED to see the CR updated for 3.0! Works just as well as the previous version for 2.2. This app alone (for me) makes the Xoom well worth it's purchase price and monthly dues.
It always worked on my EVO, but a tablet screen is oh so sweeeet.
Has anyone been able to find a way to use the Grooveshark desktop site without getting the "problem loading flash" error? I have read having flash 10.2 installed and using the Dolphin browser set to desktop user agent would work, but so far have had no luck on my Xoom or D1 without getting the error message. Also tried Skyfire and the stock browser with the about:debug trick, no dice. Anyone had any better luck, or other solutions that worked?
Have you tried TinyShark on the market?
Yeah that's what I have been using lately, but I would like to be able to load my playlists and everything from the grooveshark desktop site.
Am i missing something? Why not use the Grooveshark app in the market?
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Am i missing something? Why not use the Grooveshark app in the market?
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because online its free but the app makes you upgrade.
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because online its free but the app makes you upgrade.
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Oh ok, makes sense. I forgot i'm subscribed already.
Tinyshark lets you load your playlists too. The only benefit to the Grooveshark player is the offline cache ability. I tried it for a month and Tinyshark fit my needs just fine without paying $9 a month. When it was $3 a month it may have been worth it but triple the price and I'm out.
I think everyone that has replied has missed the point, I also am wondering if there has been a work around or if anyone is working on it, I think that with a tablet, we should be able to hit the real site and have flash work, why would we need to pay for an app or get an app that is made for small phones when we should be able to just go to the website.
I wish I was smarter with these dev things and I could work on it but I dont have the time to learn.
Hopefully someone that is reads this and wants the same thing, I love gooveshark but being that it is free from my desktop, I am not really wanting to pay for an app....
just my just my .02, thanks
Good luck man, I am hoping the update to the flash player will maybe work, but aside that I have had no luck in getting the desktop site to work on the Xoom and just started using the TinyShark app in the market. Not nearly as nice, but I will take what I can get until someone figures this out.
Flash also reports the client platform/OS, independent of the browser user agent, when connecting to a streaming server. I don't use Grooveshark, so I don't know if this is the reason you get the error, but it's a strong possibility.
Some people have had success with opening a file in Flash (first honeycomb release) in a hex editor and replacing the string "AND" (Android) with "WIN" (Windows). There were also some high jinks to get the change to persist, but a modified APK was made available that seemed to work for some users to access Hulu. I haven't followed it lately, but you could probably find more info searching for "flash for hulu".
EDIT: Here's the link: [MOD] Flash 10.2 Working HULU Updated: 4/29/11
Best case scenario is that someone has put out a modded APK for the current Flash release that also works with Grooveshark. If not, there might be another, less elegant solution.
I'm still debating on which tablet to buy xoom,asus or wait for newer models.
Does the GS app work on the honeycomb? Atrix users was complaining on their forums so that's why I'm asking