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Does anyone know if rooting will stop OTA updates from being sent to the Atrix?
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OTA updates are good when you have root
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Only thing that stops it is webtop mod
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You shouldnt have any problem with the OTA update when rooted. You will lose root though when you install this update that is coming.
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You shouldnt have any problem with the OTA update when rooted. You will lose root though when you install this update that is coming.
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If I'm arooted and odexed the update will not take correct? Or do you get the option to install or reject anyway?
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If I'm arooted and odexed the update will not take correct? Or do you get the option to install or reject anyway?
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You'll get the option it just fails during install. And aroot and deodex doesn't interfere with the update
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You'll get the option it just fails during install. And aroot and deodex doesn't interfere with the update
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If your deodexed it will interfere with the update. You need the .odex files for it to complete the check for the update to be approved.
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If your deodexed it will interfere with the update. You need the .odex files for it to complete the check for the update to be approved.
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so will the update just fail if the phone is running the Adeo 'roms'?
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so will the update just fail if the phone is running the Adeo 'roms'?
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drock212 said:
Only thing that stops it is webtop mod
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Wrong, I have webtop mod. I still got the update notification two days ago (I volunteered for beta test). I didn't actually update so I don't know if the update will go through or fail after the webtop mod.
supposedly there is issues with the update and rooted users? can anyone confirm or deny this?
"Atrix 4G owners who have gone ahead and rooted their device will be unhappy to learn that the update causes major problems with devices that are rooted. So, it looks like an unroot might be a necessary evil"
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/03/28/motorola-atrix-4g-update-available-no-huspa-support-yet/
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Wrong, I have webtop mod. I still got the update notification two days ago (I volunteered for beta test). I didn't actually update so I don't know if the update will go through or fail after the webtop mod.
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Sorry I wasn't clear when I said it stop the update I didn't mean it would stop it from downloading it stops it from installing. Webtop mod causes update to fail during install. A couple of posts up umm (sorry I don't know your name you've commented on my posts before) the poster with the new York name said that being deodexed would also cause the update to fail. I can't confirm or deny this but that might be true as its a major change just like the webtop mod is.
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supposedly there is issues with the update and rooted users? can anyone confirm or deny this?
"Atrix 4G owners who have gone ahead and rooted their device will be unhappy to learn that the update causes major problems with devices that are rooted. So, it looks like an unroot might be a necessary evil"
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/03/28/motorola-atrix-4g-update-available-no-huspa-support-yet/
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Wrong. This doesn't cause any major problems, you simply lose root. There is currently no method of rooting if you update, save flashing back to 1.2.6 or 1.5.2.
I assume this is consistant with all Atrix owners. I've just GladRoot my Bell Atrix, but only so I can use setcpu. I have not modded anything else.
So, hopefully (one day) Bell might update their version of the Atrix, although its not looking good right now
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I assume this is consistant with all Atrix owners. I've just GladRoot my Bell Atrix, but only so I can use setcpu. I have not modded anything else.
So, hopefully (one day) Bell might update their version of the Atrix, although its not looking good right now
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Just a curiosity considering you're from Aussie Land...why did you get the Bell Atrix vs. the AT&T one? Since modding or romming wise, the Bell doesn't have much going on for it due to no SBF
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Just a curiosity considering you're from Aussie Land...why did you get the Bell Atrix vs. the AT&T one? Since modding or romming wise, the Bell doesn't have much going on for it due to no SBF
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There were 2 reasons
1) I was in Canada at the time skiing around the day of release (17th March), needed a phone that worked on the right bands (my T-Mobile Nexus S didn't work at all) and happened to go past a Bell store while I was grocery shopping that had them in stock for $599. So I got it and had it unlocked in store.
2) Wanted one without the AT&T branding
All in all, I probably should have gone the AT&T version. I didnt know that Bell was so crap releasing updates. Modding wise, I wasn't fussed there was no SBF. I actually don't mind the phone because it has less bloatware on it from what I have seen.
I'm happy to just have root, and it plays the games that I use with absolute smooth operation. Overall, apart from the lack of updates, I'm stoked with it.
All I get is the android guy with the "!" When I attempt the update. Anyone else get this?
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There were 2 reasons
1) I was in Canada at the time skiing around the day of release (17th March), needed a phone that worked on the right bands (my T-Mobile Nexus S didn't work at all) and happened to go past a Bell store while I was grocery shopping that had them in stock for $599. So I got it and had it unlocked in store.
2) Wanted one without the AT&T branding
All in all, I probably should have gone the AT&T version. I didnt know that Bell was so crap releasing updates. Modding wise, I wasn't fussed there was no SBF. I actually don't mind the phone because it has less bloatware on it from what I have seen.
I'm happy to just have root, and it plays the games that I use with absolute smooth operation. Overall, apart from the lack of updates, I'm stoked with it.
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Well you did end up getting a nice phone. But just an FYI for the next time you're in Canada that the Nexus S(Tmo) will work on 2 carriers, Wind and Mobilicity, as both use the HSPA 1700 frequency. Only negative is that they are currently only have towers in major metro cities.
Anyone have a clue as to when 3G Xooms will get their update?
Late summer is what I got. And it may have to be done with the lte upgrade. Which sucks.
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It will come as soon as Verizon f's it up enough.
The real answer is that nobody knows outside Google/Verizon/Motorola, and they're not going to announce until right before rollout.
I check regardless
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I check regardless
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Me too. At least twice a day.
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And it may have to be done with the lte upgrade.
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Is there any actual evidence of this? From what I gathered, a couple of people just made blind assumptions about this and it started rolling from there. I have never heard of an update having to be done physically by a carrier or oem, and it just seems like a bad idea. I can guarantee that not everyone will be sending in their Xoom for the 4g upgrade as well. This just doesn't make any sense to me. I'm not aiming this at you, or calling you out personally, but this just seems highly unlikely to me and I won't be too happy if it is true, and wanted to know if there was any reason to give this rumor any merit, or if it can be brushed off.
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The sd card works good under root. I have no real use for 4g on my tablet. I really hate sending this thing off. Plus I use wifi as my primary data source. Data is backup if I need it.
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Is there any actual evidence of this? From what I gathered, a couple of people just made blind assumptions about this and it started rolling from there. I have never heard of an update having to be done physically by a carrier or oem, and it just seems like a bad idea. I can guarantee that not everyone will be sending in their Xoom for the 4g upgrade as well. This just doesn't make any sense to me. I'm not aiming this at you, or calling you out personally, but this just seems highly unlikely to me and I won't be too happy if it is true, and wanted to know if there was any reason to give this rumor any merit, or if it can be brushed off.
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It especially doesn't make any sense considering that many Xooms (like my own) are encrypted, and the tech couldn't even boot fully to test the update.
If your encrypted how are they going to test that the 4g module is working in your xoom?
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If your encrypted how are they going to test that the 4g module is working in your xoom?
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In the verizon xoom upgrade "getting ready guide", they tell you you can optionally encrypt your Xoom before sending it in. I imagine they will be able to boot into the os, just like a fresh ROM. So I'm sure they will be able to test 4g, as well as the software update. But I still highly doubt this is how the update will be done. Guess I've seen both carriers & oem's do dumber things, I just hope it's not the case! I expect an ota just like every other update.
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It especially doesn't make any sense considering that many Xooms (like my own) are encrypted, and the tech couldn't even boot fully to test the update.
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You expect them to test? Most likely this will be an assembly line function. Any required updates will occur either on next boot with connection, or be installed via some kind of assembly line flash similar to first assembly, needing to be completed by user on first boot. It makes more sense for the update to be in 2 parts, with os update plus introduction of software, then the hardware change out.
Having a tech man handle each device for software, is too expensive and risky. I personally expect to see email saying backup your data, because a wipe will be required
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If your encrypted how are they going to test that the 4g module is working in your xoom?
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I'd imagine they don't need to. The module has been QA tested, and it's a simple matter of plugging it into a mini-PCI slot.
Well if the design is as I'm thinking the 2 are seperate. I rooted and found I have not lost my Google movies and have just gain SD support. Funny how the stock root works fine, but yet others have lost wifi, market stuff, etc. I am going to request the module be shipped to me. I can't afford to be down 7 days for that. I will be more than happy to sign a waiver to release moto if I screw up. In fact they are going to get more support from me anyway. My wife loves the fact that my xoom is performing so well. Now I have to by her one! And she hates moto. This has been the best work/play device for me yet!
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Team Tiamat to the Rescue
Tiamat 2.0 (Manta Ray) was released last night and includes their custom version of HC 3.2 and 3G support. If you are already rooted and can't wait for Google and Motoroal and feedback so far is pretty good. I am a wifi only user so I am only reporting what I have read.
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Tiamat 2.0 (Manta Ray) was released last night and includes their custom version of HC 3.2 and 3G support. If you are already rooted and can't wait for Google and Motoroal and feedback so far is pretty good. I am a wifi only user so I am only reporting what I have read.
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No problems yet. Even the Storage section of Settings seems to report the correct size and usage of internal and SD card storage.
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I hope Gingerbread is actually released one day with source and that it will be possible to make the alterations such as removing CIQ that were done with Froyo.
Time will tell.
Its coming, samsung/sprint will not just drop all the $$ they did, and then not put out a relase
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We will get it. The new Conquer has it and it is basically an Epic. I think they want to resolve the reboot issue that has plagued new Gingerbread releases from the start. Then they can wash their hands of the Epic and not worry about any more maintenance releases.
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Its coming, samsung/sprint will not just drop all the $$ they did, and then not put out a relase
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This. Too all those who doubt, read again.
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Not tried the leaks but it seems like the only real remaining issues are the reboots and the GPS. Can't understand why the issues exist for what's now legacy hardware, but once they fix them we will get it officially. I'm not concerned about that.
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Not tried the leaks but it seems like the only real remaining issues are the reboots and the GPS. Can't understand why the issues exist for what's now legacy hardware, but once they fix them we will get it officially. I'm not concerned about that.
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Well what concerns me is that there doesn't seem to be much improvement from the last few leaks..
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It's coming, but I voted later.
I'm gonna guess that I'll get my GS2 in Nov before the Epic gets Gingy
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I'm gonna guess that I'll get my GS2 in Nov before the Epic gets Gingy
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Wouldn't doubt it hah
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Its amusing how Samsung can drop the ball yet again on another release.....
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I don't blame Sammy one bit, I blame Sprint.
I could be totally wrong, but my personal opinion is if the Epic had been on say Verizon this update would have been long since finished.
Just my IMO.
I want an Epic2 so bad right now, I think the last rdf pushed me over the line I'm affraid to say...
I wish the epic2 had a keyboard. I'm probably going to hold off on getting any new phones until the next good android with a slide out keyboard. in the meantime I really wish they would put out source to our Dev's who seem to have a much better handle on debugging and let us get our cyanogen on. Hell with a good cyanogen 7 rom I probably wouldnt get a new phone for another 2-3 years.
Agreed, I mean I have to face the facts, Ill have this phone for at least 1 more year, and I'm sure longer, since Ill probably wait till the next "thing" comes out after I'm eligable for an upgrade.
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I don't blame Sammy one bit, I blame Sprint.
I could be totally wrong, but my personal opinion is if the Epic had been on say Verizon this update would have been long since finished.
Just my IMO.
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I agree here. The International version has reportedly received timely updates. I don't know if they were referring to 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 or an incremental bug fix upgrade but supposedly they don't have this issue. I can't resist anymore. I went to the Sprint store and the Manager is going to hold one for me until I get there on launch day. Maybe having 2 active phones is excessive but I can't wait until my upgrade comes. Also, I am not ready to get rid of my Epic. I still love this phone.
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Verizon??? The company with the last Galaxy S phone to get updated? The single carrier not to have any SIGN of the gingerbread update ever coming out for their Galaxy S phone? The carrier that believes that the Droid Charge is a suitable replacement for THE GS2? Sprint is probably the best carrier to bet on for upgrades to non "Droid" phones...
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Its amusing how Samsung can drop the ball yet again on another release.....
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qb , maybe you should send a "how-to" video to Sprint/Samsung showing 'em how to get Gingerbread fixed and released
I blame us having a keyboard. Look how fast the other Galaxy S (not counting the 2 on Verizon) devices got 2.3.x.
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I don't blame Sammy one bit, I blame Sprint.
I could be totally wrong, but my personal opinion is if the Epic had been on say Verizon this update would have been long since finished.
Just my IMO.
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Your opinion is GARBAGE lol
My friend has the fascinate and he hasnt seen an update since the half assed froyo update they got. Lol im not a commie. Youre entitled to your opinion, but it needs to be backed up with facts lol
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I blame us having a keyboard. Look how fast the other Galaxy S (not counting the 2 on Verizon) devices got 2.3.x.
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Look how fast the g2 got it
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4.0.4 on 04/04 would have a nice ring to it. It appears like it's ready to go too. I'm just hoping that they don't wait until the Galaxy Nexus hits shelves to update the NS4G.
I'd have to admit, it would be clever; but with how much of a struggle to get ICS on NS4G has been I strongly believe its unlikely.
Not really since I already have it via CM9.....True Story.
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Not really since I already have it via CM9.....True Story.
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Bugless Beast is on mine. I'm more hoping for the release for all my friends who do not want to root.
I have a sprint cdma ns4g and I got an 4.04. Update 2 weeks ago. No root and no mods for it. Its legit. No ROM
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I have a sprint cdma ns4g and I got an 4.04. Update 2 weeks ago. No root and no mods for it. Its legit. No ROM
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lies
I want next years tax refunds today! Who's with me?
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CooLoserTech said:
I have a sprint cdma ns4g and I got an 4.04. Update 2 weeks ago. No root and no mods for it. Its legit. No ROM
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Bull****...
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The is a thread in development section for ns4g, Titled *official* where you can install stock unrooted 4.0.4 version and even keep the bootloader locked...
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Hmmm already running 4.0.4 not seeing the need to have sprint push an ota
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I just want an official radio from Sprint.
I'm hoping for the OTA soon so that when I take my stock 4.0.4 NS4G in for repair they don't ask me a bunch of questions. USB port is giving out and I was afraid if I let it get too far it'd break enough that I wouldn't be able to unroot and lock the bootloader. But I refuse to go back to GB
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Seriously, I hope it's this week because this is getting a bit ridiculous. I too want to take my phone for some servicing lol but I have BB 4/3 installed. I am sure if I just lock the bootloader and have BB Sprint will never realize it's a custom ROM
Sprint not gonna give two ****s if its unlocked and rooted take that **** in for service already...its a dev phone u supposed to run customs...
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Sprint not gonna give two ****s if its unlocked and rooted take that **** in for service already...its a dev phone u supposed to run customs...
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Actually they will care. And it isn't a "dev" phone. Google doesn't support CDMA devices any longer and the Sprint version was never considered a dev phone. Btw, there's no problem flashing stock GB on the device and locking the bootloader. You can do that in 10 minutes and take it back to Sprint.
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Sprint not gonna give two ****s if its unlocked and rooted take that **** in for service already...its a dev phone u supposed to run customs...
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Officially they do. Many individual reps may not care but I see no reason to risk it.
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Actually they will care. And it isn't a "dev" phone. Google doesn't support CDMA devices any longer and the Sprint version was never considered a dev phone. Btw, there's no problem flashing stock GB on the device and locking the bootloader. You can do that in 10 minutes and take it back to Sprint.
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And I know I could go back to GB but honestly I'm kinda bored of crack flashing. After a couple years of it I'm bored of backing up and restoring and doing clean installs, flashing the new new ROMs and spending more time messing with my phone than actually using it. Stock 4.0.4 meets all of my needs without having to root or mod. I'd like to see what it's like to stay on one ROM for a while. I'm sure I'll change my mind once CM9 starts adding in new features though
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EDIT: And now I don't have to worry at all, the 4.0.4 OTA is finally official
I really appreaciate everyone here in the EVO4g thread. Today my EVO lost its charging port, pretty much feel off the motherboard, and will not charge or connect to the computer anymore. I will be going to the Galaxy Nexus come Sunday hopefully. I did the buy up program and will begetting an early upgrade with LTE baby. Will miss DECK, Ropodope, TommyT, MYN and Mik.
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I really appreaciate everyone here in the EVO4g thread. Today my EVO lost its charging port, pretty much feel off the motherboard, and will not charge or connect to the computer anymore. I will be going to the Galaxy Nexus come Sunday hopefully. I did the buy up program and will begetting an early upgrade with LTE baby. Will miss DECK, Ropodope, TommyT, MYN and Mik.
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Good Luck and Enjoy.
marcusva79 said:
I really appreaciate everyone here in the EVO4g thread. Today my EVO lost its charging port, pretty much feel off the motherboard, and will not charge or connect to the computer anymore. I will be going to the Galaxy Nexus come Sunday hopefully. I did the buy up program and will begetting an early upgrade with LTE baby. Will miss DECK, Ropodope, TommyT, MYN and Mik.
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Sorry to see you Marcus, you've been a great asset to the evo community. Too bad you couldn't hold out till June for the LtEVO.
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I'm in the same boat, but my charging port fell out last year With sprints TEP now being $11, (starting in June) I'm wondering which phone will be more durable, the Galaxy Nexus or Evo 4g LTE?
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I have been thinking on the EVO lte but I am not really fond of Sense anymore.
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I have been thinking on the EVO lte but I am not really fond of Sense anymore.
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Same here man. I don't remember the last time I used an EVO Sense ROM. I will probably be joining you.
Hope I will see some familiar faces soon.
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Hope I will see some familiar faces soon.
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I'm gona be on that galaxy S III train, for sure.
Offically have the Galaxy Nexus. Love it!
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Offically have the Galaxy Nexus. Love it!
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What persuaded you to go that route vs. the EVO LTE? I mean, Sense is way toned down with the new 4.0, and seems to not do much but enhance the experience. Just want to point out that I haven't ran a Sense ROM in about 6 months either, but the new version seems nice, and the hardware on the LTE is absolutely sick!
Anyway, I'm asking because I'm in the Nexus vs. EVO LTE vs. GSIII boat right now...
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I have been thinking on the EVO lte but I am not really fond of Sense anymore.
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+1
I really like the HTC hardware, but haven't used sense in forever. Conundrum. Hopefully the Evo will get AOSP/CM/AOKP right quick.
Congrats on your new phone. I'll miss your posts of battery use screenshots lol
Enjoy your nexus. Thanks for what you've done here.
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My brother has the nexus and I really liked it. I hardly used any sense widgets and any sense apps. Just mainly downloaded them from the market. Sense 4.O could be good. I'm fine with what I got
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LTeVO
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To weigh in here, we are on XDA right? A development site. And considering htc has unlockable bootloaders there is plenty to be done for making any device what you want. Sooooo why not just go for specs?
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To weigh in here, we are on XDA right? A development site. And considering htc has unlockable bootloaders there is plenty to be done for making any device what you want. Sooooo why not just go for specs?
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imheroldman said:
To weigh in here, we are on XDA right? A development site. And considering htc has unlockable bootloaders there is plenty to be done for making any device what you want. Sooooo why not just go for specs?
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Go check the other evolte threads where scottspa quoted toastch from the twrp thread in the onex forum. HTC has forked up the unlock so badly you cannot flash firmware once unlocked, USB connection is unavailable in recovery mode so you can't flash the boot partition, system partition meaning without and exploit to gain s-off access to the bootloader the htcdev unlock is essentially useless for flashing roms/radios, any kind of p*img.zip, onlyway to flash any kind of upgrades currently is thru an ruu. HTC locking their bootloaders and giving a halfassed unlock method as some kind of joke/tease is why I currently will not purchase another HTC device. I'm not giving my money to a company who claims to support developers by giving them a halfcocked useless tool to unlock what shouldn't be locked in the firstplace. Samsung doesn't lock the bootloader they just implemented a flash count that triggers anytime you flash an unsecured kernel, its easily reset using a USB jig or if you're on ics an app called triangle away by chainfire. Rooting is as simple as running a prerooted firmware thru Odin/heimdall and Samsung is now releasing source prior to the ota and are dropping updates as quickly as they are stable. After I had a Samsung intercept as my first android device Samsung left a bad taste in my mouth and I went to the HTC evo, as if had several HTC winmo phones and liked them. Then I was given an ET4G sprints version of the sgs2 and realized how much of an improvement Samsung has made in the 2 years since I had my intercept. Now HTC goes and forks around with the monkey business of locking the bootloader then giving an unlock method thats about as useful as a broken key to your front door, so now you gotta spend alot of time and effort attempting to break in your own Backdoor with out damaging anything
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