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OTA Updates available for root users.

Does anyone know if rooting will stop OTA updates from being sent to the Atrix?
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OTA updates are good when you have root
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Only thing that stops it is webtop mod
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You shouldnt have any problem with the OTA update when rooted. You will lose root though when you install this update that is coming.
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You shouldnt have any problem with the OTA update when rooted. You will lose root though when you install this update that is coming.
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If I'm arooted and odexed the update will not take correct? Or do you get the option to install or reject anyway?

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If I'm arooted and odexed the update will not take correct? Or do you get the option to install or reject anyway?
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You'll get the option it just fails during install. And aroot and deodex doesn't interfere with the update
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You'll get the option it just fails during install. And aroot and deodex doesn't interfere with the update
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If your deodexed it will interfere with the update. You need the .odex files for it to complete the check for the update to be approved.

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If your deodexed it will interfere with the update. You need the .odex files for it to complete the check for the update to be approved.
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so will the update just fail if the phone is running the Adeo 'roms'?

jzaslice said:
so will the update just fail if the phone is running the Adeo 'roms'?
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Yes
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drock212 said:
Only thing that stops it is webtop mod
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Wrong, I have webtop mod. I still got the update notification two days ago (I volunteered for beta test). I didn't actually update so I don't know if the update will go through or fail after the webtop mod.

supposedly there is issues with the update and rooted users? can anyone confirm or deny this?
"Atrix 4G owners who have gone ahead and rooted their device will be unhappy to learn that the update causes major problems with devices that are rooted. So, it looks like an unroot might be a necessary evil"
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/03/28/motorola-atrix-4g-update-available-no-huspa-support-yet/

Immix said:
Wrong, I have webtop mod. I still got the update notification two days ago (I volunteered for beta test). I didn't actually update so I don't know if the update will go through or fail after the webtop mod.
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Sorry I wasn't clear when I said it stop the update I didn't mean it would stop it from downloading it stops it from installing. Webtop mod causes update to fail during install. A couple of posts up umm (sorry I don't know your name you've commented on my posts before) the poster with the new York name said that being deodexed would also cause the update to fail. I can't confirm or deny this but that might be true as its a major change just like the webtop mod is.
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chriscerv said:
supposedly there is issues with the update and rooted users? can anyone confirm or deny this?
"Atrix 4G owners who have gone ahead and rooted their device will be unhappy to learn that the update causes major problems with devices that are rooted. So, it looks like an unroot might be a necessary evil"
http://www.gottabemobile.com/2011/03/28/motorola-atrix-4g-update-available-no-huspa-support-yet/
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Wrong. This doesn't cause any major problems, you simply lose root. There is currently no method of rooting if you update, save flashing back to 1.2.6 or 1.5.2.

I assume this is consistant with all Atrix owners. I've just GladRoot my Bell Atrix, but only so I can use setcpu. I have not modded anything else.
So, hopefully (one day) Bell might update their version of the Atrix, although its not looking good right now

cheetah2k said:
I assume this is consistant with all Atrix owners. I've just GladRoot my Bell Atrix, but only so I can use setcpu. I have not modded anything else.
So, hopefully (one day) Bell might update their version of the Atrix, although its not looking good right now
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Just a curiosity considering you're from Aussie Land...why did you get the Bell Atrix vs. the AT&T one? Since modding or romming wise, the Bell doesn't have much going on for it due to no SBF

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Just a curiosity considering you're from Aussie Land...why did you get the Bell Atrix vs. the AT&T one? Since modding or romming wise, the Bell doesn't have much going on for it due to no SBF
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There were 2 reasons
1) I was in Canada at the time skiing around the day of release (17th March), needed a phone that worked on the right bands (my T-Mobile Nexus S didn't work at all) and happened to go past a Bell store while I was grocery shopping that had them in stock for $599. So I got it and had it unlocked in store.
2) Wanted one without the AT&T branding
All in all, I probably should have gone the AT&T version. I didnt know that Bell was so crap releasing updates. Modding wise, I wasn't fussed there was no SBF. I actually don't mind the phone because it has less bloatware on it from what I have seen.
I'm happy to just have root, and it plays the games that I use with absolute smooth operation. Overall, apart from the lack of updates, I'm stoked with it.

All I get is the android guy with the "!" When I attempt the update. Anyone else get this?
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cheetah2k said:
There were 2 reasons
1) I was in Canada at the time skiing around the day of release (17th March), needed a phone that worked on the right bands (my T-Mobile Nexus S didn't work at all) and happened to go past a Bell store while I was grocery shopping that had them in stock for $599. So I got it and had it unlocked in store.
2) Wanted one without the AT&T branding
All in all, I probably should have gone the AT&T version. I didnt know that Bell was so crap releasing updates. Modding wise, I wasn't fussed there was no SBF. I actually don't mind the phone because it has less bloatware on it from what I have seen.
I'm happy to just have root, and it plays the games that I use with absolute smooth operation. Overall, apart from the lack of updates, I'm stoked with it.
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Well you did end up getting a nice phone. But just an FYI for the next time you're in Canada that the Nexus S(Tmo) will work on 2 carriers, Wind and Mobilicity, as both use the HSPA 1700 frequency. Only negative is that they are currently only have towers in major metro cities.

Another poll: When will we see an official Epic 4g Gingerbread distribution?

I hope Gingerbread is actually released one day with source and that it will be possible to make the alterations such as removing CIQ that were done with Froyo.
Time will tell.

Its coming, samsung/sprint will not just drop all the $$ they did, and then not put out a relase
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We will get it. The new Conquer has it and it is basically an Epic. I think they want to resolve the reboot issue that has plagued new Gingerbread releases from the start. Then they can wash their hands of the Epic and not worry about any more maintenance releases.

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Its coming, samsung/sprint will not just drop all the $$ they did, and then not put out a relase
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This. Too all those who doubt, read again.
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Not tried the leaks but it seems like the only real remaining issues are the reboots and the GPS. Can't understand why the issues exist for what's now legacy hardware, but once they fix them we will get it officially. I'm not concerned about that.

DroidApprentice said:
Not tried the leaks but it seems like the only real remaining issues are the reboots and the GPS. Can't understand why the issues exist for what's now legacy hardware, but once they fix them we will get it officially. I'm not concerned about that.
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Well what concerns me is that there doesn't seem to be much improvement from the last few leaks..
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It's coming, but I voted later.

I'm gonna guess that I'll get my GS2 in Nov before the Epic gets Gingy
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Zeinzu said:
I'm gonna guess that I'll get my GS2 in Nov before the Epic gets Gingy
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Wouldn't doubt it hah
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Its amusing how Samsung can drop the ball yet again on another release.....
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I don't blame Sammy one bit, I blame Sprint.
I could be totally wrong, but my personal opinion is if the Epic had been on say Verizon this update would have been long since finished.
Just my IMO.

I want an Epic2 so bad right now, I think the last rdf pushed me over the line I'm affraid to say...

I wish the epic2 had a keyboard. I'm probably going to hold off on getting any new phones until the next good android with a slide out keyboard. in the meantime I really wish they would put out source to our Dev's who seem to have a much better handle on debugging and let us get our cyanogen on. Hell with a good cyanogen 7 rom I probably wouldnt get a new phone for another 2-3 years.

Agreed, I mean I have to face the facts, Ill have this phone for at least 1 more year, and I'm sure longer, since Ill probably wait till the next "thing" comes out after I'm eligable for an upgrade.

Zeinzu said:
I don't blame Sammy one bit, I blame Sprint.
I could be totally wrong, but my personal opinion is if the Epic had been on say Verizon this update would have been long since finished.
Just my IMO.
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I agree here. The International version has reportedly received timely updates. I don't know if they were referring to 2.3.3 to 2.3.4 or an incremental bug fix upgrade but supposedly they don't have this issue. I can't resist anymore. I went to the Sprint store and the Manager is going to hold one for me until I get there on launch day. Maybe having 2 active phones is excessive but I can't wait until my upgrade comes. Also, I am not ready to get rid of my Epic. I still love this phone.
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Verizon??? The company with the last Galaxy S phone to get updated? The single carrier not to have any SIGN of the gingerbread update ever coming out for their Galaxy S phone? The carrier that believes that the Droid Charge is a suitable replacement for THE GS2? Sprint is probably the best carrier to bet on for upgrades to non "Droid" phones...
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qbking77 said:
Its amusing how Samsung can drop the ball yet again on another release.....
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qb , maybe you should send a "how-to" video to Sprint/Samsung showing 'em how to get Gingerbread fixed and released

I blame us having a keyboard. Look how fast the other Galaxy S (not counting the 2 on Verizon) devices got 2.3.x.

Zeinzu said:
I don't blame Sammy one bit, I blame Sprint.
I could be totally wrong, but my personal opinion is if the Epic had been on say Verizon this update would have been long since finished.
Just my IMO.
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Your opinion is GARBAGE lol
My friend has the fascinate and he hasnt seen an update since the half assed froyo update they got. Lol im not a commie. Youre entitled to your opinion, but it needs to be backed up with facts lol
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bondosho said:
I blame us having a keyboard. Look how fast the other Galaxy S (not counting the 2 on Verizon) devices got 2.3.x.
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Look how fast the g2 got it
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NS4G Best Buy Trade

Hasn't been 30 days so I'm off to trade my NS4G for the E4GT.
After I unroot it and what not, do I bring it in the box? or just the phone?
and what should I tell them, that I didn't like it? or didn't enjoy stock android or something like that?

Take the box and all accessories that came with it.....also either explanation will do.....enjoy for sgs2......
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erikkWTF said:
Hasn't been 30 days so I'm off to trade my NS4G for the E4GT.
After I unroot it and what not, do I bring it in the box? or just the phone?
and what should I tell them, that I didn't like it? or didn't enjoy stock android or something like that?
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Bring everything if you are returning it. Box, accessories, everything that was in the box. Tell them whatever you want, you have 30 days to return, period. It's not thirty days contingent on their agreement with your reason. You may be on the hook for a restock fee though.
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erikkWTF said:
Hasn't been 30 days so I'm off to trade my NS4G for the E4GT.
After I unroot it and what not, do I bring it in the box? or just the phone?
and what should I tell them, that I didn't like it? or didn't enjoy stock android or something like that?
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See you in six months when you still haven't received Ice Cream Sandwich yet.
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Rem3Dy said:
See you in six months when you still haven't received Ice Cream Sandwich yet.
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That made me chuckle. Sad part is, its probably true.
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corythug said:
That made me chuckle. Sad part is, its probably true.
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I'm returning my Epic Touch today and going back to a NS4G. One of the main bugs is the phone having LOS (Lost of Service). This normally happens after you end a call. And the only way to correct the issue is by rebooting the phone. In addition, everyone isn't having issues with this bug either. I for one is on my 2nd Epic Touch and I didn't experience it at all on either phones. However, after i rooted my first Epic Touch, I then started to get the LOS bug. I exchanged it because at the time there was no way to return back to stock. Actually other than that, it's really isn't any big bugs with the phone. So make sure you check the Epic Touch forums before you go out and buy one.
And as far as the updates, this may be true...who knows. All I know is the original Epic is still on 2.2...or at least I think it is.
I may go back to the Epic Touch, but I want to see if the iphone is coming to sprint and it has to offer as well as the nexus prime.

Charging Port broke/Going to the Galaxy Nexus.

I really appreaciate everyone here in the EVO4g thread. Today my EVO lost its charging port, pretty much feel off the motherboard, and will not charge or connect to the computer anymore. I will be going to the Galaxy Nexus come Sunday hopefully. I did the buy up program and will begetting an early upgrade with LTE baby. Will miss DECK, Ropodope, TommyT, MYN and Mik.
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I really appreaciate everyone here in the EVO4g thread. Today my EVO lost its charging port, pretty much feel off the motherboard, and will not charge or connect to the computer anymore. I will be going to the Galaxy Nexus come Sunday hopefully. I did the buy up program and will begetting an early upgrade with LTE baby. Will miss DECK, Ropodope, TommyT, MYN and Mik.
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Good Luck and Enjoy.

marcusva79 said:
I really appreaciate everyone here in the EVO4g thread. Today my EVO lost its charging port, pretty much feel off the motherboard, and will not charge or connect to the computer anymore. I will be going to the Galaxy Nexus come Sunday hopefully. I did the buy up program and will begetting an early upgrade with LTE baby. Will miss DECK, Ropodope, TommyT, MYN and Mik.
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Sorry to see you Marcus, you've been a great asset to the evo community. Too bad you couldn't hold out till June for the LtEVO.
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I'm in the same boat, but my charging port fell out last year With sprints TEP now being $11, (starting in June) I'm wondering which phone will be more durable, the Galaxy Nexus or Evo 4g LTE?
dschoenike

I have been thinking on the EVO lte but I am not really fond of Sense anymore.

marcusva79 said:
I have been thinking on the EVO lte but I am not really fond of Sense anymore.
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Same here man. I don't remember the last time I used an EVO Sense ROM. I will probably be joining you.

Hope I will see some familiar faces soon.
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Hope I will see some familiar faces soon.
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I'm gona be on that galaxy S III train, for sure.

Offically have the Galaxy Nexus. Love it!

marcusva79 said:
Offically have the Galaxy Nexus. Love it!
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What persuaded you to go that route vs. the EVO LTE? I mean, Sense is way toned down with the new 4.0, and seems to not do much but enhance the experience. Just want to point out that I haven't ran a Sense ROM in about 6 months either, but the new version seems nice, and the hardware on the LTE is absolutely sick!
Anyway, I'm asking because I'm in the Nexus vs. EVO LTE vs. GSIII boat right now...

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I have been thinking on the EVO lte but I am not really fond of Sense anymore.
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+1
I really like the HTC hardware, but haven't used sense in forever. Conundrum. Hopefully the Evo will get AOSP/CM/AOKP right quick.
Congrats on your new phone. I'll miss your posts of battery use screenshots lol
Enjoy your nexus. Thanks for what you've done here.
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My brother has the nexus and I really liked it. I hardly used any sense widgets and any sense apps. Just mainly downloaded them from the market. Sense 4.O could be good. I'm fine with what I got
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LTeVO
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To weigh in here, we are on XDA right? A development site. And considering htc has unlockable bootloaders there is plenty to be done for making any device what you want. Sooooo why not just go for specs?
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To weigh in here, we are on XDA right? A development site. And considering htc has unlockable bootloaders there is plenty to be done for making any device what you want. Sooooo why not just go for specs?
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exactly
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imheroldman said:
To weigh in here, we are on XDA right? A development site. And considering htc has unlockable bootloaders there is plenty to be done for making any device what you want. Sooooo why not just go for specs?
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Go check the other evolte threads where scottspa quoted toastch from the twrp thread in the onex forum. HTC has forked up the unlock so badly you cannot flash firmware once unlocked, USB connection is unavailable in recovery mode so you can't flash the boot partition, system partition meaning without and exploit to gain s-off access to the bootloader the htcdev unlock is essentially useless for flashing roms/radios, any kind of p*img.zip, onlyway to flash any kind of upgrades currently is thru an ruu. HTC locking their bootloaders and giving a halfassed unlock method as some kind of joke/tease is why I currently will not purchase another HTC device. I'm not giving my money to a company who claims to support developers by giving them a halfcocked useless tool to unlock what shouldn't be locked in the firstplace. Samsung doesn't lock the bootloader they just implemented a flash count that triggers anytime you flash an unsecured kernel, its easily reset using a USB jig or if you're on ics an app called triangle away by chainfire. Rooting is as simple as running a prerooted firmware thru Odin/heimdall and Samsung is now releasing source prior to the ota and are dropping updates as quickly as they are stable. After I had a Samsung intercept as my first android device Samsung left a bad taste in my mouth and I went to the HTC evo, as if had several HTC winmo phones and liked them. Then I was given an ET4G sprints version of the sgs2 and realized how much of an improvement Samsung has made in the 2 years since I had my intercept. Now HTC goes and forks around with the monkey business of locking the bootloader then giving an unlock method thats about as useful as a broken key to your front door, so now you gotta spend alot of time and effort attempting to break in your own Backdoor with out damaging anything
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Jelly Bean Update for VZW Xoom coming "Q4 2012"

The official Motorola Android Update page has been updated and it lists the VZW Xoom's Jelly Bean update as Q4 2012. It claims it'll be an upgrade to "Android 4.1.1" but I highly doubt that. I guarantee it'll be 4.1.2/JZO54K.
Owning a Verizon Xoom and a Verizon Galaxy Nexus is so frustrating from an update standpoint. Even though updates come directly from Google, Verizon's testing and approval requirement takes forever. We know Verizon had been testing the JRO03H ROM (the same 4.1.1 ROM that the WiFi-only model got) as far back as early August. Obviously they couldn't get it approved before 4.1.2 came out, so I'm sure now they're testing 4.1.2 instead. Regardless, assuming Verizon can't find anything to ***** about with the update, we should have it soon.
Once the update rolls out, I'll update the first post here with a link to the OTA file so we can all flash it manually and not have to wait.
https://forums.motorola.com/pages/00add97d6c

Nice for Verizon users! Brazil still has no idea of what is JB lol... But why don't you root and install a Custom ROM? Or install AOSP ROM?
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XxLordxX said:
Nice for Verizon users! Brazil still has no idea of what is JB lol... But why don't you root and install a Custom ROM? Or install AOSP ROM?
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I don't like any of the custom ROMs available for the Xoom. They are all full of customization and features that I don't need or want. Plus I get squeamish about custom kernels written by people who have little to no documentation on the hardware. The stock ROM is simple, clean, and stable. As a daily driver, it's perfect for me. Less is more.
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well, your opinion is yours opinion I prefer custom ROMS over the Stock (just don't know if will keep thinking like this after I get a HTC One X). Even Brazilian Stock ROM coming with some apps very useful (like the best file manager I used, quick office HD for free...), I think Stock ROMs are too slow and don't satisfy my personal needs of development
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XxLordxX said:
well, your opinion is yours opinion I prefer custom ROMS over the Stock (just don't know if will keep thinking like this after I get a HTC One X). Even Brazilian Stock ROM coming with some apps very useful (like the best file manager I used, quick office HD for free...), I think Stock ROMs are too slow and don't satisfy my personal needs of development
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Yeah see I am a developer in my day job so I have no interest in doing it outside of work. I have my Android devices to use them in my day-to-day life and for me, the stock ROMs work best for that.
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Yeah see I am a developer in my day job so I have no interest in doing it outside of work. I have my Android devices to use them in my day-to-day life and for me, the stock ROMs work best for that.
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I am with you on ROM preference, Custom ROM run out of system space and stock don't. I turn my verizon 3g into a WiFi only for a pure jb experience. When the mood hit me I use cm10 for a custom feel.

On the bright side, we are already in the fourth quarter, so it could be any day.
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On the bright side, we are already in the fourth quarter, so it could be any day.
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I check the VZW Xoom support PDF religiously every day haha
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Really looking forward to this. Haven't wanted to go through the trouble of rooting my 3G only Xoom yet, but I'm really looking forward to seeing how much of an improvement JB is.

Trooper Thorn said:
Really looking forward to this. Haven't wanted to go through the trouble of rooting my 3G only Xoom yet, but I'm really looking forward to seeing how much of an improvement JB is.
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Rooting and unlocking of the bootloader is two seperate thing, my Verizon JB ROM isn't rooted..

hi, i have a mz602 (xoom 4g from verizon) but i dont live in US, i am in Argentina. I will be able to download the update OTA?
I have only wifi connection since there are no 4g network here.
thanks.

joaqinn said:
hi, i have a mz602 (xoom 4g from verizon) but i dont live in US, i am in Argentina. I will be able to download the update OTA?
I have only wifi connection since there are no 4g network here.
thanks.
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As long as it's running the VZW "trygon" 4.0.4/IMM76L firmware, you'll get the update.
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As long as it's running the VZW "trygon" 4.0.4/IMM76L firmware, you'll get the update.
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its running that firmware so thanks :good:

It now shows Q1 2013