Im debating on whether to get the HD2 or stick to my TP2 which would you guys pick and why?
pandaxownage said:
Im debating on whether to get the HD2 or stick to my TP2 which would you guys pick and why?
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Your kidding me right?
HD2 of course!
secano said:
Your kidding me right?
HD2 of course!
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why would you pick the HD2 over the tp2 though?
Def the HD2. Better processor, no stylus needed and harder screen, not to mention HUGE SCREEN and just downright sexy.
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Def the HD2. Better processor, no stylus needed and harder screen, not to mention HUGE SCREEN and just downright sexy.
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what do you mean by harder screen? is the touch sensitivity better than the tp2?
TP2 is resistive, meaning that you have to apply pressure on the screen. The HD2 is capacitive which means that it responds to heat/infrared signatures, so you don't have to press on the screen to use it.
Since it doesn't require pressure, the screen can be made of harder material (like glass). The HD2's screen is fairly thick and makes the entire phone seem stiffer with a higher-quality build.
I prefer the HD2 over the TP2. I was in your very same position. The only thing I sacrificed was a hardware keyboard, but the HD2's screen size makes typing fairly easy once you get used to it.
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TP2 is resistive, meaning that you have to apply pressure on the screen. The HD2 is capacitive which means that it responds to heat/infrared signatures, so you don't have to press on the screen to use it.
Since it doesn't require pressure, the screen can be made of harder material (like glass). The HD2's screen is fairly thick and makes the entire phone seem stiffer with a higher-quality build.
I prefer the HD2 over the TP2. I was in your very same position. The only thing I sacrificed was a hardware keyboard, but the HD2's screen size makes typing fairly easy once you get used to it.
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hawc1506, how is it turning out for you right now? is it running smoothly or are you experiencing problems?
I have both at home and I choose HD2. But only because of screen size – I often watch movies in subway.
TP2:
HW keyboard is much more faster to write, don’t have to check for misspelled words.
Dual microphone (noise background canceling)
Stereo speakers
Can record calls as mp3
Resistive screen – big plus (there is no way how to comfortably use windows without stylus)
HD2
Big screen
No noise canceling option
You have to always check for misspelled words
Cant record calls !!
Very poor speaker !
Capacitive screen – very easy to break, no stylus possible – im missing stylus all the time
Faster processor and bigger RAM/ROM - big plus
hawc1506 said:
I prefer the HD2 over the TP2. I was in your very same position. The only thing I sacrificed was a hardware keyboard, but the HD2's screen size makes typing fairly easy once you get used to it.
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+1...same here
Honestly, I still have my TP2, but the only reason I tinker with it now is to test and troubleshoot things for that section of the forums.
makind1 said:
HD2
Cant record calls !!
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makind, there is a tweak that enables this on the HD2, but is wma only. If that's adequate for you, I'll see if I can dig it up (I think it was a manual regedit, not a cab)
I loved my TP2, I've been using WM for over 7 years now and the HD2 is the first device I have had with a capacitive screen. I loved using a stylus. After getting the HD2 I tried a the capacitive stylus from Pogo. I eventually stopped using it and I've gotten really used to just using my finger especially with Swype. I'm loving it, HD2 all the way.Its faster, more memory, the screen is gorgeous and the camera is amazing!! Flash too which the TP2 doesn't have.
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hawc1506, how is it turning out for you right now? is it running smoothly or are you experiencing problems?
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You know, it was a little buggy for the first couple days but then once it got going it was smooth as a Bentley.
...until I installed the T-mobile update.
But if you go with a custom ROM, you will likely have no trouble at all. I highly recommend the phone.
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makind, there is a tweak that enables this on the HD2, but is wma only. If that's adequate for you, I'll see if I can dig it up (I think it was a manual regedit, not a cab)
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I don't think there is any way to record calls with the HD2. You can record your voice, and recording programs may pick up the other person softly if you have the speaker loud enough.... but it's only picking up the sound from the speaker. It doesn't record calls like other phones can.
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I don't think there is any way to record calls with the HD2. You can record your voice, and recording programs may pick up the other person softly if you have the speaker loud enough.... but it's only picking up the sound from the speaker. It doesn't record calls like other phones can.
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Yeah, apparently I had enabled the record button and created some recording files, but never tested them. When I created a new one just now, the file was there but there was no audio when I listened to it
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You know, it was a little buggy for the first couple days but then once it got going it was smooth as a Bentley.
...until I installed the T-mobile update.
But if you go with a custom ROM, you will likely have no trouble at all. I highly recommend the phone.
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have you flashed yiour phone with a custom rom?
Great thread, since I am having the same issue. One of my main concerns is whether the HD2 will work well with some of my old apps. The main ones I want to use are Listpro, Pocket Informant, and Phatnotes. I assume that PI shouldn't be an issue without a stylus, but how about the other ones. Would appreciate your thoughts.
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have you flashed yiour phone with a custom rom?
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No, I had the Tmous stock rom 2.10.1 and then I upgraded to 2.13. The upgrade screwed up my screen sensitivity so bad, I downgraded back to the stock 2.10.0 (no stock bootloader on 2.10.1).
So I've made "unofficial" rom flashes, but I haven't used a custom ROM yet. I don't even have HSPL.
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No, I had the Tmous stock rom 2.10.1 and then I upgraded to 2.13. The upgrade screwed up my screen sensitivity so bad, I downgraded back to the stock 2.10.0 (no stock bootloader on 2.10.1).
So I've made "unofficial" rom flashes, but I haven't used a custom ROM yet. I don't even have HSPL.
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do you also have problems with your battery life? i currently have 2.13 and i had to soft reset for probably every few hours because it freezes up
dude i hav an HD and i brought the HD2 the hd2 is faster and holds more and its cheaper then wat u paid for the tp2 buy urself an hd2
i traded my TP2 for the HD2 and i kinda regret it because my HD2 crashes a lot and my TP2 never did that but who knows it might get better soon
If you can live without a keyboard, then hd2 all the way. MUCH faster. Installs apps a lot quicker. Great screen. So used to using a stylus so i really miss that but i am getting used to not using it. If your cool with no keyboard, by all means.. get the HD2! You won't regret it!
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Hey guys I've been here for years and strangely for the last couple of weeks I've not found myself on this site very much. Why? Because my damn phone is so damn good I haven't the need/urge to mess with the set up I have. I'm yet to unlock it or flash it (although I hear there are some very nice roms out there). My set up is as so:
Standard TMO USA rom.
SPB Mobile Shell 3.5
Quick Menu 2.8 (task manager/program closer).
JZ Mortbuttons
Opera Mobile 10, Opera Mobile 9, Skyfire, Mobile IE
Resco Explorer
Coreplayer
I haven't added any of my other contact programs or anything because this damn phone comes loaded with great programs and runs very, very well. I know some people may ask why did I create this thread? I see a lot of people coming in here complaining about the HD2 and WM 6.5 and I think the satisfied people need to speak up also. The phone is great (needs very few tweaks) and the OS is awesome now that is actually has a processor strong enough to really use it and a screen beautiful enough to show it's shine!
Join me with your I love my HD2 comments. Peace all.
Im with you on this one, people keep telling me to flash android. But there is no need for that.out of the box the phone rinds fine with no problems, and movies finally look good.
This will be my last phone I ever buy.
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Im with you on this one, people keep telling me to flash android. But there is no need for that.out of the box the phone rinds fine with no problems, and movies finally look good.
This will be my last phone I ever buy.
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I would have to say this is the last phone I buy for a while. It fits all my current work and entertainment needs.
remo32001 said:
This will be my last phone I ever buy.
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you plan on stealing the rest?
remo32001 said:
Im with you on this one, people keep telling me to flash android. But there is no need for that.out of the box the phone rinds fine with no problems, and movies finally look good.
This will be my last phone I ever buy.
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Saying it's the last phone you'll ever buy is quite a statement... you know it will die eventually, right? You plan on not using a phone after that?
Also, who keeps telling you to flash android on it? You should let them know that it's impossible to do, because their is no android port for the HD2.
HD2
HD2 is a cool phone, I waited for it since it came out first in Europe. I switched carriers too. I think it needs alot of help. The phone is clumsy to me, on any phone I had I never found myself making so many mistakes typing or scrolling, I seen the difference right away when I went back to my itouch. But I love Winmo plus I already have a that love/hate relationship by having dealt with win95/xp/vista/windows 7 so I figure why not keep it going with the mobile too..HD2 is nice it has made me learn alot about mobile phone software like CABS, Flashing, etc. We will see what impact winmo 7 has on the old 6.5/6.5.x versions. You have to admit you can't never get bored and you can't just change stuff on Android the way you can with winmo..ok im done glorifying..peace
I really like my HD2, it has its quirks but they aren't bad. The screen is amazing on it and whenever I show people it they are blown away. Once some of the issues are fixed, random reception and freezes, it will be an amazing phone.
I love my phone too
I'll keep it until the HD3 comes out
OP, you're from inland empire? Me too!
flashing ROM itself is quite an amusement for me.
HD2 does have a facebook app that I actually like and use.
I read books quite often, and HD2 became my alternative eBook Reader with an app called, Freda. I still have an eBook Reader as my main source of reading material, but on 4.3" screen, it isn't too bad to read on the phone!
Then I do watch lots of MP4 videos and use Youtube.
besides those, everything else is quite standard.
RSS hub, Web Browsing (although on 4.3" screen, it's pleasant to browse), Music Player, and all the things other phones also have.
HD2 is a satisfying device to spend your time on the go.
But it's nothing other phones can't do.
Definitely love mine, had a brilliant email, navigating, talking weekend and it didnt blink, Just need T-Mo to update to 6.5.3 and fix the radio issues and it will be perfect for me.
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I really like my HD2, it has its quirks but they aren't bad. The screen is amazing on it and whenever I show people it they are blown away. Once some of the issues are fixed, random reception and freezes, it will be an amazing phone.
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My wife has one also and her phone freezes while mine doesn't. The only real difference is I use SPB Mobile Shell 3.5 and she uses the standard Sense interface. I think the messaging in the Sense has issues with the OS.
s0nniez said:
OP, you're from inland empire? Me too!
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Yep. Nice to see others in our area actually getting the phone!
efjay said:
Definitely love mine, had a brilliant email, navigating, talking weekend and it didnt blink, Just need T-Mo to update to 6.5.3 and fix the radio issues and it will be perfect for me.
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I personally don't want 6.5.3 because it has the start button on the bottom and that would eliminate me from using QuickMenu as my taskmanager/program closer. Sad huh?
This phone is so awesome to have. I have been roaming around xda-devs for years tweaking, modding, flashing but this thing I have to say is very stable. I have not flashed roms ever since I got it. So far i'm loving the way it handles things and haven't have any freezing unlike what other peoples says. Anyways I couldn't promise I will not be flashing roms coz they're tempting, lol. Cheers..
Quite a phone
I really love this phone, i have had a lot of wm phones but this tops it all. i use it as am mp3 camera browsing .... and so much more. I used to flash all my other phones but i think i will keep the stock rom since i havent had an problems with it.
I'm running Energy ROM on my HD.
Flashed almost every ROM that's compatible with TMOUS, and I think I'm pretty much settled on Energy for now. Problem with the most is the SMS lag. When you get more than 50 messages in one thread, it takes a while to load the conversation you highlighted on the messaging tab. I hated it, since I had to delete them almost every day, since I text a lot.
Energy ROM uses different looking SMS and MMS tab, which eliminated most of my annoyance.
Kudos, Energy ROM
I have to agree with addicus. I've had my HD2 for a over a month now and have had absolutely NO issues (knock on wood) and I'm a HEAVY user. I keep reading these horror stories involving random freezing, SMS issues, reception problems, etc. To date these issues aren't affecting me (knock on wood again). I'm running the stock ROM because it works flawlessly for me. I've installed several apps/mods and am completely satisfied.
I haven't touched my iPhone since buying the HD2. My iPhone contract ends in June and I will not be extending it. Will this be my last phone? absolutely not. I'm definately an early adopter and have to have the latest gadgets. Until then, I LOVE MY HD2!!
It's the screen size and brilliant colors and picture quality and capacitive touch that get me... It's not much different than any other Winmo phone besides that. I also like the Sense UI.
I'm stoked on this phone and if you are afraid to do a hard resets, ROM Flashes, tweaking WinMo, etc, I don't understand what you are doing on this site complaining anyhow... Just buy an Iphone and keep your opinions to yourself...
There is nothing worse about this phone than any other phone if you know what you are doing. Only good things...
Yeah, I love mine too much. I'm spending too much time on it. I think it's a bad thing.
Me and the wife's phone hasn't froze on us yet. We are on stock rom, using Sense UI.
I made a whole DVD of a graduation documentary with just the phone's camera alone. It turned out pretty good. Of course I edited on a PC though.
This phone will last me a while, at least till HD3 comes out.
Also, swype is screwing my typing skills up. The other day I went to use my Desktop and I was swyping on my keyboard. LOL...
I just got a TMOUS HD2 today. I'm having a real hard time with the screen. The phone is essentially new but it does have a zagg armor shield on it, including the screen. From what I've read that should have no effect on the screen.
This is my fourth of fifth HTC phone and I've never had a screen that is this hard to use. Also the phone seems laggy, response time is slow at times. It might be a learning curve that needs to happen on my part, but I don't really think so. These capacitive screens are supposed to be the cat's meow. I'm not seeing that.
So, my question is do any of the ROMs increase screen sensitivity? I've already unlocked the phone and would not have an issue with flashing a new ROM. From the reading I've done I was leaning toward the UnOff ROM, but Spike says he doesn't do a lot other than removing bloatware. He does mention speeding the OS up, and that would be good. But does anyone know if his or any of the other ROMs would make the screen more responsive?
Oh yeah, the ROM is currently at 2.13.531.1 (90963) WWE 4/28/2010
Also, I have 1024Mb of Flash ROM on my phone. I think this means it's a 1024LEO. Does anyone know for sure if UnOff has a base of 2.08 or higher? Edit: After reading his thread again I see his ROM and Radio are based on the same that came on my phone.
Thanks
as far as I know, the newer official ROM from T-Mobile has issues with the screen touch drivers, try any other cooked ROM since that issue has been identified and the old drivers are cooked in with the ROMs. Personally, I use ENERGY's ROM, and I am quite fond of it, not to take away from any other cooks' hard work. Just make sure it's the ROM for the TMO US phone, and that the radio (if applicable) is for the TMO US phoneif you don't want a HD paperweight.
To continue the above post. Make sure the radio you flash is .50 NOT .51
Yes NRGZ Energy is excellent option for touchscreen response to begin with.
When u become an ORD person then try Dutty's Redemption V3. It's also good.
Tref said:
I just got a TMOUS HD2 today. I'm having a real hard time with the screen. The phone is essentially new but it does have a zagg armor shield on it, including the screen. From what I've read that should have no effect on the screen.
This is my fourth of fifth HTC phone and I've never had a screen that is this hard to use. Also the phone seems laggy, response time is slow at times. It might be a learning curve that needs to happen on my part, but I don't really think so. These capacitive screens are supposed to be the cat's meow. I'm not seeing that.
So, my question is do any of the ROMs increase screen sensitivity? I've already unlocked the phone and would not have an issue with flashing a new ROM. From the reading I've done I was leaning toward the UnOff ROM, but Spike says he doesn't do a lot other than removing bloatware. He does mention speeding the OS up, and that would be good. But does anyone know if his or any of the other ROMs would make the screen more responsive?
Oh yeah, the ROM is currently at 2.13.531.1 (90963) WWE 4/28/2010
Also, I have 1024Mb of Flash ROM on my phone. I think this means it's a 1024LEO. Does anyone know for sure if UnOff has a base of 2.08 or higher? Edit: After reading his thread again I see his ROM and Radio are based on the same that came on my phone.
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Howdy,
Well to clear this up a bit, they really messed up the 2.13 ROM because they decreased the screen sensitivity, the 2.10 ROM had great sensitivity. If you read through some of the ROM threads you will see what they are talking about.
And yes you have a 1024 LEO with that much Flash ROM.
Most of the cooks here have gone to 2.10 Touch drivers cooked into the 2.13 or higher ROM's. So have a look around and pick which ever suits your fancy.
I flashed Spike's UnOff 23127 6.5.3 ROM. It did increase the sensitivity quite a bit, and it helped the overall responsiveness of the device tremendously.
But I'm finding that this phone, and possibly its capacitive resistant screen is just not as finger friendly as my TP2. Sense works fine, within its limitations. But the apps that I have, like Pocket Informant and Resco for instance have small drop down menus with arrows that are very hard to open. My hands are not overly large and I have little to no problems on the TP2 with the same apps. It just might be that it's a learning curve and I need to judge where the ball of my fingertip is going to land, and to learn not to be too heavy handed. I don't know if I'll keep trying long enough though.
Resco Keyboard (v5.01) is just about unusable on this device, though to be fair I quit using it on my TP2 as well because it just wouldn't take advantage of the higher resolution and the keys are just too small.
Anyone know of a great PIM app that does well on Sense? You know, large buttons and selection thingies that work well on these cap. res. screens and with Sense? Edit: I found that SPB Mobile Shell works pretty well, and has large, usable buttons, icons and menus. It just might mean the difference for me, and allow me to keep using the HD2 instead of going back to my TP2.
Is there an app that will let us work in landscape with all, or nearly all apps?
Thanks for the replies!
As title says ... if you have any questions ... I can post photos, test stuff etc ...
the hinge, the hinge!
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Hi,
Can you set the language to "Danish" ?
How is the feel/ build quality ?
How is it in the menus - fast/acceptable/slow
Thanks!
Lucky bastard
Sound Quality
How is the sound quality for music over headphones?
Does it have the dolby SRS enhancements?
Thanks in advance!
Ash
The only thing I really want to ask is battery life, but you won't be able to give me a detailed answer on that before I get my own
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the hinge, the hinge!
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As for the hinge - in the HTC shop there was a Desire Z to show for customers and when I was playing with the hinge I was little bit afraid ... it was just too free. Fortunatly when I unboxed by device the hinge was pretty good. The build quality looks very good for me. However I am afraid that hinges will get overused by time and i will have to take it for warranty repair. This is just my opinion and may not happend. Summary: first expresions was afraidness but after now I am satisfied with it.
I come from TP2 where the keyboard is definitly better. On Desire Z its little bit smaller and there are function keys on the sides - I mean on TP2 I had 'p' and 'q' at the side of the keyboard ... here is 'tab' and 'backspace' on the side... but this is just matter of habit.
As for the hinge - when you turn the device upside down - it opens by gravity. This was afaik already discussed about G2. It is not issue i guess ... and actually i dont find it annoying at all.
As you could probably see on youtube videos the frame of the phone is metal and the back cover of batery is metal. The rest is plastic - very same as on the classic desire.
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Hi,
Can you set the language to "Danish" ?
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I am from czech republic and I cannot change language to Danish. This will be probably country specific. I have there: czech, english, magyar, polski, romania, slovak and some azbuka written language which i dont have any clue what is
Janik_dk said:
How is the feel/ build quality ?
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Answered in previous post - I have nothing to say againts.
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How is it in the menus - fast/acceptable
/slow
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Actually they are super fast... I have installed only like 10 apps so menu is not full of apps but the device is incredibly responsible. This is probably due to new generation of procesor used in the opposite of the old on in Desire (even Z is 800mhz and classic Desire is 1ghz). What supprised me was that I held today even HTC Desire HD and i had feeling that Z is smoother... but who know what was with that HD
Lennyuk said:
The only thing I really want to ask is battery life, but you won't be able to give me a detailed answer on that before I get my own
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Cant say yet :-/ I have it first day ... now i am recharging it to the full battery. I use my phone heavily and TP2 lasted one day with problems. When I didnt have time to play with phone (twitter, web browsing etc) and i was only calling it lasted 2 days. I will report my experience with Z asap.
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How is the sound quality for music over headphones?
Does it have the dolby SRS enhancements?
Thanks in advance!
Ash
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I dont know anything about dolby SRS ... if you could tell me how to try it I would.
I've just plugged in my KOSS Porta Pro and the quallity sounds well... Or lets say its not catastrophic Depends how much audiofil are you I still think that it depends more on headphones you listen. Atm I am playing pink floyd high hopes and I hear there all details i know so I guess the quality of playback is ok. In the comparison with qualite repro I feel here how my porta are overbassed. I will investigate equalizer in new days
ad hinges - those are not my videos but another owner:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C50aTSHh1HM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BP2OUCqBzcY
Check the NAM version thread:
Bell has released the NAM version D-Z today too
I wanted to ask you about the hinge, again: if you don't slide out the keyboard (so the keyboard is "closed") and you turn the phone upside-down, will the keyboard still open by itself? In the videos posted above I can see what is happening when the keyboard is already open, but I wonder if it happens the same when the keyboard is "closed".
I fear the keyboard would open by itself in my pocket and I could break it, if I wear some loose clothes. Also, flipping the phone to mute the ringtone seems silly if the keyboard is opening like that.
I wouldnt be afraid to have it in my pocket. Yes it opens itself but only by some little force - for example gravity. Actually to let it open by the gravity you have to hold it by the bottom side of the phone and not holding the second one. Since they are rather thin its not so easy. I am used to hold my phone by way it doesnt close when i type.
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Thanks for the answer! Maybe it looks worse than it is. I hope to find it in the stores in one or two weeks, and I'll try it myself.
If you find more interesting stuff about it (good or bad), please post. When you have some time, maybe you could upload some pictures and video from the camera.
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Thanks for the answer! Maybe it looks worse than it is. I hope to find it in the stores in one or two weeks, and I'll try it myself.
If you find more interesting stuff about it (good or bad), please post. When you have some time, maybe you could upload some pictures and video from the camera.
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I just got a Bell one and the hinge is a little slippery but (as mentioned) it only slides on mine if I hold it upside-down by the base, or at a bizzare side-ways angle that's un-natural.
Be prepared for the slide though, as you will have it if you get the phone. Great phone though.
the desire z has LED Notification??
i think the desire may have led notification unlike the t-mobile g2... if you watch the video you can see the red blinking LED due to low battery. can anyone else confirm this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQ0iH_hHchg
Don't know about notifications, but my g2 has the same led notification when it is done charging or charging. My g2 has never had less than half the battery remaining, so no clue on that. I hope the g2 lits up that led when a missed call/text pops up, that would be a sweet upgrade.
yes, there is LED diod undead the speaker grid. It is blinking not only when battery is low but also when you recharge (red for recharging/green for fully recharged) or when you have missed call. It doesnt blink for email i think ... i will notice today hopefuly.
Is the emmc/ nand locked down like in tmo g2?
Ie no perma-root/ custom roms?
I have a tmo g2 which I could gladly sell/ trade for the desire z provided the dz could be perma rooted...
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Got a bit tired of Vibrant.....not that its bad, its a great phone and TouchWiz has been great too, GPS worked fine as well.....but the lack of ROMs made me switch. I tried going back to Nexus One.....no go, screen is crap, cant type anything without mistakes after Vibrants SAMOLED.....so HD2 came into my mind. Ironically, this Windows 6.5 phone has more Android support then Vibrant. It runs anything you want, Win6.5, Win7.0, CM7, Miui, HTC Sense, and even Linux......thats why I decided to give it a shot, at least until Pyramid comes out.
I've used both...
The screen size of the HD2 is nice, but the Vibrant display is superior in every other way IMO. And while the HD2 has some excellent ROMs, I wouldn't expect everything to work out of the box. It may run all those OSes you just mentioned, but the only one it officially runs is WinMo 6.5. Expect to compromise on features and do some tinkering otherwise. (If you require HD video recording, for example, don't even consider the HD2.)
It sounds like you've had pretty good luck with your Vibrant (compared to other Vibrant owners). Especially considering the fact that you don't mind TouchWiz, not sure I'd recommend the switch...that's just my opinion from several weeks experience. Your mileage may vary of course.
Good luck though. The HD2 has the best build of any phone I've ever used.
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I've used both...
The screen size of the HD2 is nice, but the Vibrant display is superior in every other way IMO. And while the HD2 has some excellent ROMs, I wouldn't expect everything to work out of the box. It may run all those OSes you just mentioned, but the only one it officially runs is WinMo 6.5. Expect to compromise on features and do some tinkering otherwise. (If you require HD video recording, for example, don't even consider the HD2.)
It sounds like you've had pretty good luck with your Vibrant (compared to other Vibrant owners). Especially considering the fact that you don't mind TouchWiz, not sure I'd recommend the switch...that's just my opinion from several weeks experience. Your mileage may vary of course.
Good luck though. The HD2 has the best build of any phone I've ever used.
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thanks.
well, since today, Miui Gingerbread is officially supported on hd2. this is one of the reasons for switch. Miui work great on my Nexus 1
I have both the vibrant and hd2, the hd2 is my back up/ fun phone. I gotten tired of touch wiz and wanted to try aosp android. So after months of having the hd2 I flashed everything under the sun and loved it. There is always something new to do on the hd2.
But as for battery life, stability and speed i still use the vibrant for my main phone.
Blkegk said:
I have both the vibrant and hd2, the hd2 is my back up/ fun phone. I gotten tired of touch wiz and wanted to try aosp android. So after months of having the hd2 I flashed everything under the sun and loved it. There is always something new to do on the hd2.
But as for battery life, stability and speed i still use the vibrant for my main phone.
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not a fan of aosp. more of a sense and Miui fan
really worried about battery though
inconceeeivable said:
I've used both...
The screen size of the HD2 is nice, but the Vibrant display is superior in every other way IMO. And while the HD2 has some excellent ROMs, I wouldn't expect everything to work out of the box. It may run all those OSes you just mentioned, but the only one it officially runs is WinMo 6.5. Expect to compromise on features and do some tinkering otherwise. (If you require HD video recording, for example, don't even consider the HD2.)
It sounds like you've had pretty good luck with your Vibrant (compared to other Vibrant owners). Especially considering the fact that you don't mind TouchWiz, not sure I'd recommend the switch...that's just my opinion from several weeks experience. Your mileage may vary of course.
Good luck though. The HD2 has the best build of any phone I've ever used.
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After using the HD7 so much, I cannot fathom going back to using only a 4" screen as my main phone. I still use my Vibrant daily - I think some of the Official Apps on WP7 like Twitter and FB still need a bit more work. But with just 0.3" less screen size it feels too small already. I can barely type on it anymore.
The screen is really good but once you start using the other phones (even using them side by side) I don't think I ever really think about which screen is better, TBQH.
And yea, the build quality of the HD2 is great outside of the dust-attracting speaker grilles
However, the Vibrant makes a superior phone to the HD2/HD7. Reception is a lot better. The Vibrant's speakers are also a lot better than the HD2/HD7s. Less tinny and twice as loud. Even the earpiece volume for talking on the phone on an HD2/HD7 is almost 50% thinner and lower in volume than the Vibrant.
Just makes me think how much of a shame it was for Samsung to put such terrible software on the Vibrant (not in function or aesthetics, but in performance and robustness).
kolyan said:
thanks.
well, since today, Miui Gingerbread is officially supported on hd2. this is one of the reasons for switch. Miui work great on my Nexus 1
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Wow...did not know that lol. That's awesome.
if you could, just buy a 2nd hand hd2 and keep them both.
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N8ter said:
After using the HD7 so much, I cannot fathom going back to using only a 4" screen as my main phone. I still use my Vibrant daily - I think some of the Official Apps on WP7 like Twitter and FB still need a bit more work. But with just 0.3" less screen size it feels too small already. I can barely type on it anymore.
The screen is really good but once you start using the other phones (even using them side by side) I don't think I ever really think about which screen is better, TBQH.
And yea, the build quality of the HD2 is great outside of the dust-attracting speaker grilles
However, the Vibrant makes a superior phone to the HD2/HD7. Reception is a lot better. The Vibrant's speakers are also a lot better than the HD2/HD7s. Less tinny and twice as loud. Even the earpiece volume for talking on the phone on an HD2/HD7 is almost 50% thinner and lower in volume than the Vibrant.
Just makes me think how much of a shame it was for Samsung to put such terrible software on the Vibrant (not in function or aesthetics, but in performance and robustness).
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Stay away from the SGS2, you'll never be able to go back to a 4.3 inch.
Nothing against the vibrant but I jsut bought an dell streak. Vibrant is the champion being the longest phone in my possession. Im just bored with it and the dell streak is about the only phone I havent had besides the nexus s. Just waiting until the sgs2 comes out.
So far 4.3'' is pretty impressive, dont miss SAMOLED at all. Both speakers suck in HD2 compared to Galaxy, built quality is much better then Galaxy, Android actually runs faster (maybe the same), battery life dont know yet..... I hear mixed reports that Gingerbread is draining more battery......but the good thing is that Miui updates are comming out each week and no wipe is needed. Might try Gingerbread Sense UI later on since its still "new" to HD2
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So far 4.3'' is pretty impressive, dont miss SAMOLED at all. Both speakers suck in HD2 compared to Galaxy, built quality is much better then Galaxy, Android actually runs faster (maybe the same), battery life dont know yet..... I hear mixed reports that Gingerbread is draining more battery......but the good thing is that Miui updates are comming out each week and no wipe is needed. Might try Gingerbread Sense UI later on since its still "new" to HD2
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Not sure about the latest releases, but pongster's GBX ROM has a great reputation battery-wise. And yeah, those GB Sense builds will be sick if they get the camera working.
Edit: The main thing that bothers me about the HD2/7 display is the LCD response time. Do you guys notice this as well?
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Not sure about the latest releases, but pongster's GBX ROM has a great reputation battery-wise. And yeah, those GB Sense builds will be sick if they get the camera working.
Edit: The main thing that bothers me about the HD2/7 display is the LCD response time. Do you guys notice this as well?
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what do you mean about LCD ? Haven't noticed anything different from Vibrant yet.
I've been considering getting an hd2 for awhile, I just don't know what to do though, I'll miss my vibrant like crazy, one of the main reasons I'll miss my vibe is because I wouldn't have a clue how to flash roms on the hd2..
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what do you mean about LCD ? Haven't noticed anything different from Vibrant yet.
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Almost like a ghosting effect. Mainly noticeable on white text scrolling on a dark background. Not a huge deal, but was definitely there on both HD2 and HD7.
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cashyftw said:
I've been considering getting an hd2 for awhile, I just don't know what to do though, I'll miss my vibrant like crazy, one of the main reasons I'll miss my vibe is because I wouldn't have a clue how to flash roms on the hd2..
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I got mine with Android ROM so it was easy. with original windows, you have to flash radio, spl, and bootloader. after that its easy, and pretty much the same as Vibrant, flash the same clockwork recovery and flash Rom of your choice.
cashyftw said:
I've been considering getting an hd2 for awhile, I just don't know what to do though, I'll miss my vibrant like crazy, one of the main reasons I'll miss my vibe is because I wouldn't have a clue how to flash roms on the hd2..
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I will glady help you flash roms on the Hd2.
It may seem complicated, but most of it is done through the computer. DFT's executables are very simple to operate. And unless you flash the wrong radio or mess up the bootloader, the phone is impossible to brick, partly thanks to the ability to flash through the computer (kind of like odin).
battery lasted 9 hours of pretty heavy use in 3g area with brightness set to auto....mostly playing and browsing the net, not much talk time or gps. also right now and at least in Miui, I can't change settings for light sensor (its a bug or something) and stock brightness is pretty high. Ones thats fixed, I bet it will greatly help the battery.
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I will glady help you flash roms on the Hd2.
It may seem complicated, but most of it is done through the computer. DFT's executables are very simple to operate. And unless you flash the wrong radio or mess up the bootloader, the phone is impossible to brick, partly thanks to the ability to flash through the computer (kind of like odin).
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Also, once you get clockwork on there, it wont be so different.
april fools? haha just playing
I came from an HD2 to a Vibrant. Gave the HD2 to my brother (android virgin). I love the screen size and the ease of running multiple roms on it but speaker and camera annoys the heck out of me. Funny though because I don't even use GPS that much and barely take picture but those are some things I NEED to have in a phone.
ANyway, good luck with your new phone. I am a bit jealous of not being able to run GB w/ gps my vibrant but it makes up in other area.
I am going to buy HTC HD2 or HTC Desire HD.
1)From what I know hd2 was made to work with Windows Mobile but supports Android, I wanted to know if the HD2 will run Android smoothly without problems & bugs? Android Market works?
2)The HD2's touch is smooth while running Android? or it has delays?
3) How the Desire HD is different from the HD2? I know the camera is better in desire hd and also the RAM is a bit higher, but what else
4)HD2 works perfectly with Android 2.3 Gingerbread?
5)The phone memory in the HD2 is lower than the Desire HD, wanted to know if it's making a big difference.
6)Desire HD run games/Apps faster than HD2?
That's all for now, thanks for helper
koloko12 said:
I am going to buy HTC HD2 or HTC Desire HD.
1)From what I know hd2 was made to work with Windows Mobile but supports Android, I wanted to know if the HD2 will run Android smoothly without problems & bugs? Android Market works?
2)The HD2's touch is smooth while running Android? or it has delays?
3) How the Desire HD is different from the HD2? I know the camera is better in desire hd and also the RAM is a bit higher, but what else
4)HD2 works perfectly with Android 2.3 Gingerbread?
5)The phone memory in the HD2 is lower than the Desire HD, wanted to know if it's making a big difference.
6)Desire HD run games/Apps faster than HD2?
That's all for now, thanks for helper
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1)HD2 runs android smoothly imho... android 4.0 may have a few problems but thats like every other device
2)im running sense 3.5 which is gingerbread and the touch screen is very responsive no delay
3)dont know anything about the desire but i know that the roms for desire get ported to hd2 so we get there roms anyway
4)as i said earlier gingerbread sense 3.5 is great (using the ENERGY rom)
5) i dont thik the less memory makes a difference i have installed a fair few apps and still have room to spare
6)app/game speed differs between devices some may be faster on hd2 than desire you never know... i find the apps are quite fast
hope this helps
Thanks MkBy for the fast response, here are some more things I would Like to know
1)What you suggest to buy?
2)Which one is cheaper?
3)I might buy one of them from someone (not new from shop), what should I check to make sure the phone is working well and without problems?
koloko12 said:
Thanks MkBy for the fast response, here are some more things I would Like to know
1)What you suggest to buy?
2)Which one is cheaper?
3)I might buy one of them from someone (not new from shop), what should I check to make sure the phone is working well and without problems?
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I haven't used the DHD too much so I can't say which is better but 0my HD2 on CM7 appeared to keep up in performance in terms of scrolling, web browsing, opening apps etc. (i.e. not benchmarks) with my friend's DHD on CM7, and I would guess the HD2 is cheaper but the HD2 is absolutely terrible for playing HD games or games involving multitouch. In order for HD games to run smoothly you have to sacrifice either speed or graphics, and the HD2's screen only supports 2 points which is a massive let down for me. As much as I love the HD2, if it were up to me and both were around the same price I would go for the DHD, even if it is a slight bit more expensive
Nigeldg said:
the HD2's screen only supports 2 points which is a massive let down for me
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You mean that if I will try touch the screen on HD2 with three fingers it will detect only two of them?
koloko12 said:
You mean that if I will try touch the screen on HD2 with three fingers it will detect only two of them?
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Yes, unfortunately It does that very poorly as well, I can't describe it but sometimes it appears to lock the two points together if they are on the same line if you know what I mean, it's quite difficult to describe.
Let's compare the Touch screen to SE Xperia's touch screen, I know that in Xperia you can work with 2 fingers and even more, HD2 can work with 2 fingers like Xperia does? I mean same quality of touch
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Let's compare the Touch screen to SE Xperia's touch screen, I know that in Xperia you can work with 2 fingers and even more, HD2 can work with 2 fingers like Xperia does? I mean same quality of touch
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1 Finger flawless
2 Fingers decent
3+ Fingers doesn't work
NONE OF THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE INNUENDO
As I said before, I might buy one of them from someone (not new from shop), what should I check to make sure the phone is working well and without problems?
I have an HD2 and am currently running the Energy ROM with sense 3.5 and Gingerbread. The screen is extremely responsive and over all the phone works great. I would recommend getting the HD2. It is one of the best phone out there as far as specs go and it isn't that expensive anymore.
If you want to buy a second-hand HD2, I would like to suggest you to check:
1. 3G data connection (refer to This)
2. Button response
3. Camera flashlight
4. Record video for 5 mins
5. earphone jack and some MP3
6. blue tooth file transfer
7. speaker
8. GPS in some navigation apps
9. Wifi of course
10.Ninja fruit for multi-touch test
Better bring a TF card with files or pics you want to test.
Since my HD2 has data connection freeze issue, I suggest you to buy a whole new handset like ONE X (if you like htc), with warranty. All these unsolved problems on HD2 are driving me crazy.
I'm running hd2 with ics tytung v1.5 with little to no known problems other than music app fc'ing. Their is a touch issue, namely screen lag, but I only notice it when playing games at a fast pace. Hd2's seem to regarded as highly adaptable as well. Not sure about dhd.
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Nigeldg said:
1 Finger flawless
2 Fingers decent
3+ Fingers doesn't work
NONE OF THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE INNUENDO
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LOLOL
I think if you need faster device, Desire HD is choice (i see from the specifiaction..), but if you need monster device, HD2 is choice,,,,
It can running a lot of OS,,,
dooshbag45 said:
I'm running hd2 with ics tytung v1.5 with little to no known problems other than music app fc'ing. Their is a touch issue, namely screen lag, but I only notice it when playing games at a fast pace. Hd2's seem to regarded as highly adaptable as well. Not sure about dhd.
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Hi dooshbag45, I am thinking of changing my gingerbread rom to ICS. My current rom keeps rebooting when I am using headphone to listen to music. If i use loudspeaker it does not reboot. I have even had to think twice buying a beats audio headphone because of this problem. Does the ICS rom that you're using only fc or rebooting also? Is it only when you're using the default music app or also with third party app? Mine even reboots when i am using winamp.
hd2 pros
Many OS available (android, wp7, Ubuntu, etc)
Great screen (for devices age)
EASILY nodded
Cons
Touchscreen issues - using more than one finger recognition, failing digitizer (design flaw)
Data drop (happens to some, a simple disconnect/reconnect solves)
1 rear 5mp cam
Specs are showing their age but still hang with the best of em!!!
I've had a hands on with a friends DHD so the below is based on a QUICK hands on
DHD pros
Native android
Slight advantage on HD2 (hardware specs)
Cons
Smaller screen
You want android ... You're stuck with it!
Cons
Smaller screen
You want android ... You're stuck with it!
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Incorrect. The Desire HD has a screen of 4.3", which is as large as the HD2.
Hi
I've used both. And both are great devices too. The only drawback for both of em are lack of front cam. But IMHO go for a newer model. Like sensation and EVO 3d. You may get it cheaper also.
But the final decision be yours.
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