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I know, I know..."search the forums." I actually have, I've been looking all day. The thing is, I'm not really that smart when it comes to roms, touch flow3d (no idea what that is) or any other things.
I just upgraded to the SE R2 release for my x1a, and liked it, until i installed spb Plus 4 on it, and it slowed it to a crawl. I uninstalled it, but it still goes super slow. Also, the top right of one of the stock panels (where you used to be able to click on it and see what was open, and close them if you want) is gone now.
I decided to try doing a hard reset and reinstall all my stuff (except spb plus, of course). Then I was thinking, if I'm going to do that, maybe now is a good time to try one of the xda roms...though I don't know what the pros/cons are, which ones to use, etc.
I was even thinking about toying around with the 6.5 beta rom that someone had been talking about.
anyway, please don't dig into me and beat me down for not searching, i really did put in a couple hours trying to figure it out, and that is just today. I'm just looking for a little education i guess.
Thanks,
Ian
just saw the thread...
well, um... the thing is that no one can answer the question for you and you'll have to pick the one ROM you like best yourself;
the best idea would be to play around with a few of the cooked ROMs and see what happens;
one thing is certain though, you will need to do a bit of reading to make everything work as it should as there are always bugs in cooked ROMs... well actually, even the official ones have flaws (more than the cooked ones? or is it just me?)... anyway, make a long story short, try Itje's Touch-IT v4.5 (easily found in the SE Xperia X1 ROM Dev section) and see if it's something you wanted or not, if not then go for something else, but then again as I said, until you have an idea of what you want, then no one will be able to help you and tell you how to get it;
interesting things you may want to try out on your phone are
touchflo3d (Itje's Touch-IT has this on by default)
pointui home2 (free of charge, just google it and read on)
spb mobile shell 2.1.5 (i believe is the latest.... also, chargeable but certainly a good app if you're lost on your WM phone and want something more phone-like..)
hope this helps;
forgot, if you want to save yourself time installing these and trying them out, try looking up reviews on youtube; you'll definitely find some vids with how they work etc.
to be honest, ANY of the custom ROMS using the beta R3A rom. Performance jump vs R1A rom is incredible... S2P actually slides smoothly b/w pages now and screen rotation is almost instant.
I'm personally using Touch-IT 4.5; it's a bit fiddly to fix all the little issues with that ROM. Try Jack's one instead.
winmo 6.5
completelyhis said:
I was even thinking about toying around with the 6.5 beta rom that someone had been talking about.
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Ok, newb here and my Xperia hasn't even arrived yet... That said, I have played with the 6.5 roms on both Kaiser and Raphael: much is not working and even more is not working properly, so unless you're comfortable with resolving phone problems and/or fiddling with OS internals, winmo 6.5 is not a great idea *yet*. There is some real promise in it, just not ready for "prime time" yet.
Touch It 4,5 Landscape the best!
I've tried Touch-IT 4.5 and I must say it messed my X1 up, things didn't work,...
I think for X1, it's better to stick with the original ROM and its upgrades.
There are probably quite a few people on here that have had the same experience with the X1 that I have had.
After buying the phone, the emotions went from excitement, to frustration to deep disappointment. I bought it because I wanted a customisable, powerful phone with plenty of convergence opportunities. However, out-of-the-box the phone is sluggish, the "panels" implementation is a waste of time, battery life is abysmal and worst of all it is woefully unfriendly on the finger.
I visited this forum regularly; passively reading the threads and looking at the different applications on offer. Some of them did improve the situation; iContact was a favourite... very finger friendly PIM app. However, these apps struggled to mask the inadequacies of the phone.
A lot of the posts on here related to ROMs, and initially I resisted. I read the posts in which people had dramatically improved the phone by "flashing" the operating system with something entirely new, and I was cautiously tempted. But I also read the posts from those for whom the flashing process went wrong. Knowing that if something could go wrong, it WOULD go wrong with me... I didn't want to take the risk of having a very expensive brick in my possession. I also felt a bit cheated... you shouldn't NEED to go through the fairly drastic process of flashing your phone in order to get it work satisfactorily.
I persevered for 5 months and eventually got to the point of making a tough decision. I wasn't happy with the phone... and was willing to write it off as a mistake and buy a new one. As I normally only buy phones on upgrade, to do it mid-contract it would work out very expensive for me. However, it did give me an opportunity.... flash the ROM; if it failed, I go and buy a new phone (as I was resigned to do anyway), if it was successful, I can have a fresh start with the X1.
I read through hundreds of posts on this forum and took lots of notes. I started by downloading HardSPL as was recommended by most in order to prime the phone to accept flashing with non-standard ROMs. I docked my phone to the PC via ActiveSync, and ran the program (making sure to turn off the "advanced networking" option in ActiveSync). It ran through OK (took 5 minutes), the phone rebooted, and everything seemed OK. Part 1 successful.
I then chose a ROM. This was actually a hard choice, as I had no frame of reference. The ROM "Chefs" in the other forum do their best to explain things to N00bs, but in the end, words like "Titanium" and "Rhodium" and "Manilla" crop up so often that the posters can't be expected to explain it each time. A good idea for a forum regular might be to put a sticky at the top of the forum with a very simple glossary explaining each of these terms.
Also frustratingly, most of the ROM chefs also claims theirs to be "super fast". In the end, there is no real way to judge the great chefs from the bad... other than to taste the food!
I settled for mobilevu's [V-LITE 3.5 Final Titanium]. I wanted to make sure I went for Windows Mobile 6.5 implementation, as I was hoping most of the annoyances I had with the phone were due to Windows Mobile 6.1.
I backed up all my contacts online using the nice and simple Google Sync, formatted my micro SD card, copied the ROM to the card, and then turned off the phone. I restarted by holding down the volume and power buttons at the same time, which loaded the BootLoader screen. Took a deep breath... then started the process. It took about 45 minutes in total to flash the phone, setup Windows and then install all of the customisations.
In the end? I'm fairly happy. WM6.5 is a finger-friendly improvement, and the Titanium interface is quite intuitive. It feels like a different phone, and for now, it feels less sluggish. It's still not perfect, and I have traded old annoyances for new ones, e.g. I now don't have an easy way to see my battery status, and closing applications always returns you to the Home screen rather than the last menu you were browsing. Little niggles that I will have to iron out to be totally happy. However, the key thing is that I have given the phone a "clean slate" and I am confident about doing it again should the need arise. It is an involved process and not something I plan to do every week, but it's not as stressful as I first imagined... and it's cheaper than buying a new one!
Yea every rom has little bugs - especially the 6.5 ones since it is not an official release - i was also hesitant to flash at first but it all went smoothly too - tested lots of 6.5 roms but in the end decided 6.5 isnt ready yet and until all the little things are fixed i'll stick with stock vodafone r3a lol
Though some of 6.5 i vastly improved but some of it can be attained through advanced config yet still the scrolling isnt super smooth.
Still glad u kept your x1 - u wont regret it!
You think you will be getting the x2 when it comes out though?
You should try gtrab's wm6.5 rom. I think his roms are the best so far. After that, install Iconsoft PhonEx app and you will have a great X1.
tried a few. Try itjes 10,4. Superb rom. In his thread there is post about how to tweak it to go even faster.
I couldnt believe how fast opera loads "heavy" pages.
And its freakin fast. Im sticking to 6,1, much more stabile.
comeradealexi said:
Yea every rom has little bugs - especially the 6.5 ones since it is not an official release - i was also hesitant to flash at first but it all went smoothly too - tested lots of 6.5 roms but in the end decided 6.5 isnt ready yet and until all the little things are fixed i'll stick with stock vodafone r3a lol
Though some of 6.5 i vastly improved but some of it can be attained through advanced config yet still the scrolling isnt super smooth.
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Scrolling seems to be one of the biggest drawbacks so far on both versions of the OS, including 6.5. The Titanium interface is great, but it suffers a little because there phone seems to "stick" often when you are gesturing through the menus. There is also a delay when the interface appears before it accepts finger input. As much as it pains me to say it, the iPhone is light-years ahead in this respect.
You think you will be getting the x2 when it comes out though?
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It depends what's on the market at the time, but I seriously doubt it in all honesty. I think I will give WinMo a rest for a few years and maybe switch to Android. I might come back to WinMo for release 7... if the reviews are good.
Acika11 said:
tried a few. Try itjes 10,4. Superb rom. In his thread there is post about how to tweak it to go even faster.
I couldnt believe how fast opera loads "heavy" pages.
And its freakin fast. Im sticking to 6,1, much more stabile.
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For me, it's a straight trade-off between stability and usability. Regardless of how stable it was, I just found 6.1 so unfriendly to navigate, particularly with a finger. There are tools that can improve it, such as IconSoft PhoneEx as VNMenuIeu mentioned, but filling the phone with shell extensions and applications just to raise the usability to a manageable level feels wrong; particularly if I have to pay for them! I have an expectation that out-of-the-box, the phone should be more than suitable for 99% of users, and the 1% who want to tweak should be able to. That's the way the Windows PC OS' have worked for years. However, WinMo seems to be the other way around...
the glossary is certainly a good idea .... and for me , i flashed the phone the same day i brought it home (put i read alot about it before i got the phone so i wasnt a n00b)
digital_elysium, i was going thro the same kind of despair that you have gone thro. Many a times i decided to flash my phone, then thought about the "brick" and backed off... Only afrer your post did i get some hope of doing it... I did it today, and installed gtrab's ROM which her released today.. relief, new hope and happiness, all thanks to your post... I salute you...
And mods... glossary plz?
digital_elysium, i was going thro the same kind of despair that you have gone thro. Many a times i decided to flash my phone, then thought about the "brick" and backed off... Only afrer your post did i get some hope of doing it... I did it today, and installed gtrab's ROM which her released today.. relief, new hope and happiness, all thanks to your post... I salute you...
And mods... glossary plz?
lolz. i too took a leap of faith after five months of frustration with the stock roms.
flashed touch x 10.1 and still on it. tho ive tried a couple of other roms out of curiosity but went back to touch x.
flashing isnt a hard process at all if u read the instructions carefully. so others who are hesitant of flashing their x1 for fear of bricking it shud be encouraged to try.
at their own risk
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Scrolling seems to be one of the biggest drawbacks so far on both versions of the OS, including 6.5. The Titanium interface is great, but it suffers a little because there phone seems to "stick" often when you are gesturing through the menus. There is also a delay when the interface appears before it accepts finger input. As much as it pains me to say it, the iPhone is light-years ahead in this respect.
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Iphone touch screen and Xperia's cannot be compared, they're not even the same technology. (resistive vs capacitive)
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digital_elysium, i was going thro the same kind of despair that you have gone thro. Many a times i decided to flash my phone, then thought about the "brick" and backed off... Only afrer your post did i get some hope of doing it... I did it today, and installed gtrab's ROM which her released today.. relief, new hope and happiness, all thanks to your post... I salute you...
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Glad to be of service, that's why I wrote the post.
Hope the new ROM continues to bring happiness!
A couple of weeks ago, I managed to loose the stylus for my Elfin.
(When I say I have lost it, I mean its somewhere in my room,
but im not sure where)
It was the second of the two included with the device, and I had
already lost the first one, so Im out of styli.
As a result, Im now using just my fingers to navigate around my
little device and I must say Im pleasantly surprised.
Its still quite easy to use, even without the stylus.
I must admit, that I need to use a fingernail every now and then.
But overall its plain sailing.
Im currently running the PDAVIET wm6.5 ROM Clicky
This ROM is quite stable, and very finger friendly.
This post is mostly to say how easy to use wm6.5 is.
Well done Microsoft (not often i say that)
I hardly ever use my stylus, with the one major exception of scummvm. It is impossible to click accurately on an 8-pixel tall line of text in Monkey Island with the fingertip, and too much work to try and hit it with my short nails.
Always use a screen protector, you dont want to see a rainbow scratch.
I found my stylus, but i barely ever use it still
Plus, i now use THIS rom, which runs even quicker. Plus, with the last rom, I was trying to alter the theme and m2D theme by editing image files, but the theme on this rom is what i was trying to make myself
Its like they took what I wanted and put it into a ROM for me to download ^_^
Is that rom good?
As in, cos I have been using Onyx 4.6 and everytime I upgrade to Onyx 5, I just felt like downgrading it to 4.6
Does this ROM have that tachi phonecanvas?
Im debating on whether to get the HD2 or stick to my TP2 which would you guys pick and why?
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Im debating on whether to get the HD2 or stick to my TP2 which would you guys pick and why?
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Your kidding me right?
HD2 of course!
secano said:
Your kidding me right?
HD2 of course!
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why would you pick the HD2 over the tp2 though?
Def the HD2. Better processor, no stylus needed and harder screen, not to mention HUGE SCREEN and just downright sexy.
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Def the HD2. Better processor, no stylus needed and harder screen, not to mention HUGE SCREEN and just downright sexy.
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what do you mean by harder screen? is the touch sensitivity better than the tp2?
TP2 is resistive, meaning that you have to apply pressure on the screen. The HD2 is capacitive which means that it responds to heat/infrared signatures, so you don't have to press on the screen to use it.
Since it doesn't require pressure, the screen can be made of harder material (like glass). The HD2's screen is fairly thick and makes the entire phone seem stiffer with a higher-quality build.
I prefer the HD2 over the TP2. I was in your very same position. The only thing I sacrificed was a hardware keyboard, but the HD2's screen size makes typing fairly easy once you get used to it.
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TP2 is resistive, meaning that you have to apply pressure on the screen. The HD2 is capacitive which means that it responds to heat/infrared signatures, so you don't have to press on the screen to use it.
Since it doesn't require pressure, the screen can be made of harder material (like glass). The HD2's screen is fairly thick and makes the entire phone seem stiffer with a higher-quality build.
I prefer the HD2 over the TP2. I was in your very same position. The only thing I sacrificed was a hardware keyboard, but the HD2's screen size makes typing fairly easy once you get used to it.
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hawc1506, how is it turning out for you right now? is it running smoothly or are you experiencing problems?
I have both at home and I choose HD2. But only because of screen size – I often watch movies in subway.
TP2:
HW keyboard is much more faster to write, don’t have to check for misspelled words.
Dual microphone (noise background canceling)
Stereo speakers
Can record calls as mp3
Resistive screen – big plus (there is no way how to comfortably use windows without stylus)
HD2
Big screen
No noise canceling option
You have to always check for misspelled words
Cant record calls !!
Very poor speaker !
Capacitive screen – very easy to break, no stylus possible – im missing stylus all the time
Faster processor and bigger RAM/ROM - big plus
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I prefer the HD2 over the TP2. I was in your very same position. The only thing I sacrificed was a hardware keyboard, but the HD2's screen size makes typing fairly easy once you get used to it.
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+1...same here
Honestly, I still have my TP2, but the only reason I tinker with it now is to test and troubleshoot things for that section of the forums.
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HD2
Cant record calls !!
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makind, there is a tweak that enables this on the HD2, but is wma only. If that's adequate for you, I'll see if I can dig it up (I think it was a manual regedit, not a cab)
I loved my TP2, I've been using WM for over 7 years now and the HD2 is the first device I have had with a capacitive screen. I loved using a stylus. After getting the HD2 I tried a the capacitive stylus from Pogo. I eventually stopped using it and I've gotten really used to just using my finger especially with Swype. I'm loving it, HD2 all the way.Its faster, more memory, the screen is gorgeous and the camera is amazing!! Flash too which the TP2 doesn't have.
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hawc1506, how is it turning out for you right now? is it running smoothly or are you experiencing problems?
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You know, it was a little buggy for the first couple days but then once it got going it was smooth as a Bentley.
...until I installed the T-mobile update.
But if you go with a custom ROM, you will likely have no trouble at all. I highly recommend the phone.
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makind, there is a tweak that enables this on the HD2, but is wma only. If that's adequate for you, I'll see if I can dig it up (I think it was a manual regedit, not a cab)
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I don't think there is any way to record calls with the HD2. You can record your voice, and recording programs may pick up the other person softly if you have the speaker loud enough.... but it's only picking up the sound from the speaker. It doesn't record calls like other phones can.
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I don't think there is any way to record calls with the HD2. You can record your voice, and recording programs may pick up the other person softly if you have the speaker loud enough.... but it's only picking up the sound from the speaker. It doesn't record calls like other phones can.
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Yeah, apparently I had enabled the record button and created some recording files, but never tested them. When I created a new one just now, the file was there but there was no audio when I listened to it
hawc1506 said:
You know, it was a little buggy for the first couple days but then once it got going it was smooth as a Bentley.
...until I installed the T-mobile update.
But if you go with a custom ROM, you will likely have no trouble at all. I highly recommend the phone.
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have you flashed yiour phone with a custom rom?
Great thread, since I am having the same issue. One of my main concerns is whether the HD2 will work well with some of my old apps. The main ones I want to use are Listpro, Pocket Informant, and Phatnotes. I assume that PI shouldn't be an issue without a stylus, but how about the other ones. Would appreciate your thoughts.
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have you flashed yiour phone with a custom rom?
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No, I had the Tmous stock rom 2.10.1 and then I upgraded to 2.13. The upgrade screwed up my screen sensitivity so bad, I downgraded back to the stock 2.10.0 (no stock bootloader on 2.10.1).
So I've made "unofficial" rom flashes, but I haven't used a custom ROM yet. I don't even have HSPL.
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No, I had the Tmous stock rom 2.10.1 and then I upgraded to 2.13. The upgrade screwed up my screen sensitivity so bad, I downgraded back to the stock 2.10.0 (no stock bootloader on 2.10.1).
So I've made "unofficial" rom flashes, but I haven't used a custom ROM yet. I don't even have HSPL.
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do you also have problems with your battery life? i currently have 2.13 and i had to soft reset for probably every few hours because it freezes up
dude i hav an HD and i brought the HD2 the hd2 is faster and holds more and its cheaper then wat u paid for the tp2 buy urself an hd2
i traded my TP2 for the HD2 and i kinda regret it because my HD2 crashes a lot and my TP2 never did that but who knows it might get better soon
If you can live without a keyboard, then hd2 all the way. MUCH faster. Installs apps a lot quicker. Great screen. So used to using a stylus so i really miss that but i am getting used to not using it. If your cool with no keyboard, by all means.. get the HD2! You won't regret it!
I picked up my HD2 almost a week ago, and while at first I was quite pleased, I'm already sick of WM 6.5's buggyness. I did some tweaks to try and improve performance, but without success. I'm still forced to restart my device a few times a day, still getting poor reception, and pretty lame battery life to boot. I'm fairly certain this is mostly due to WM, as the HD2's specs are top notch, and similar handsets running Android are highly acclaimed. To make matters worse, its not likely I'll ever see Android or even WP7 on this device anytime soon, if at all.
So, I now find myself ready to return my HD2 for the MyTouch Slide on Wednesday. Even though it's a pretty large step down in the hardware department, reviews have stated that it's surprisingly responsive. Is there any reason I should stick with the HD2, other than the slight possibility of Android or WP7 and the l33tn3ss of it? I really want to like this phone, but I can't stand all the issues I'm having with WM 6.5. I'm currently running the latest stock ROM, with CHT and minimal apps installed, fwiw.
1st question, do you truly close your programs? Or do they boil and grow in the background? This is likely to be the number cause of your problems.
Also, try using the phone without Sense and see if it gets better for you. Either stick to Titanium or SPB Mobile Shell. I personally use Mobile Shell since I had the phone (played with Sense for 10 minutes and found it impractical for daily use).
Not a single hiccup AT ALL. So.....good luck to you in your decision, but just try my suggestions first.
gilla409 said:
I picked up my HD2 almost a week ago, and while at first I was quite pleased, I'm already sick of WM 6.5's buggyness. I did some tweaks to try and improve performance, but without success. I'm still forced to restart my device a few times a day, still getting poor reception, and pretty lame battery life to boot. I'm fairly certain this is mostly due to WM, as the HD2's specs are top notch, and similar handsets running Android are highly acclaimed. To make matters worse, its not likely I'll ever see Android or even WP7 on this device anytime soon, if at all.
So, I now find myself ready to return my HD2 for the MyTouch Slide on Wednesday. Even though it's a pretty large step down in the hardware department, reviews have stated that it's surprisingly responsive. Is there any reason I should stick with the HD2, other than the slight possibility of Android or WP7 and the l33tn3ss of it? I really want to like this phone, but I can't stand all the issues I'm having with WM 6.5. I'm currently running the latest stock ROM, with CHT and minimal apps installed, fwiw.
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gilla409 said:
I picked up my HD2 almost a week ago, and while at first I was quite pleased, I'm already sick of WM 6.5's buggyness. I did some tweaks to try and improve performance, but without success. I'm still forced to restart my device a few times a day, still getting poor reception, and pretty lame battery life to boot. I'm fairly certain this is mostly due to WM, as the HD2's specs are top notch, and similar handsets running Android are highly acclaimed. To make matters worse, its not likely I'll ever see Android or even WP7 on this device anytime soon, if at all.
So, I now find myself ready to return my HD2 for the MyTouch Slide on Wednesday. Even though it's a pretty large step down in the hardware department, reviews have stated that it's surprisingly responsive. Is there any reason I should stick with the HD2, other than the slight possibility of Android or WP7 and the l33tn3ss of it? I really want to like this phone, but I can't stand all the issues I'm having with WM 6.5. I'm currently running the latest stock ROM, with CHT and minimal apps installed, fwiw.
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I hate reading messages like this.
When I first got my HD2 I was very happy with it. I kept it stock for a few weeks, even though I knew that the crashes could be fixed with a change in ROMs.
I don't know why HTC, T-Mobile and Microsoft would release something that clearly has not been field tested in "normal" conditions the way Apple does (see Gizmodo for details on real-world testing of Apple products prior to release).
The good news is that I am now running a great ROM that hasn't crashed on me in over 2 weeks. Not a single crash. I've never had a phone this stable! (See my sig for links)
The bad news is that I had to install a third-party ROM in order to have a useable phone. $500 is a lot of money and it's ridiculous that we have to turn to these boards to get our babies working correctly.
This is the way I feel:
If you want a phone that works 100% the way you want it out of the box, return your HD2 and keep shopping. The phone is waaay too expensive to keep just because it's the latest thing.
If you want an awesome phone that works the way you want it to and don't mind risking your warranty, I'd suggest flashing HSPL and testing some ROMs out. There are some great ROMs here that are so much faster, cleaner, better-looking and more stable than anything you will find on the shelves at T-Mobile. Just remember to tip your chef if you find a ROM that works perfectly on your rig
Thanks for the suggestions!
I actually do make sure to close all my apps when I'm done with them (even keep Task Manager on the first page.) Even with nothing besides Activesync open, I commonly get an error from Opera that "a critical component is missing."
Another bug that really pisses me off, is that when I'm browsing Opera in landscape mode and lock the screen, the lockscreen appears in landscape, and I cannot open it.
I'm mostly disappointed with the fact that this device has some of the most advanced hardware available, and yet it still lags out of the box. Watching videos of the MyTouch Slide running Expresso, I noticed that it is very fast and responsive, despite having much less horsepower under the hood. I really don't want to be forced to disable all of the eye candy or void the warranty installing custom ROMs just to get this "superphone" to run smoothly. On top of all that, it's still unclear if any better OS will be available on this device, either from the manufacturer or the devs here.
Why can't T-Mobile just release their upcoming "Project Emerald" already?
gilla409 said:
Thanks for the suggestions!
I actually do make sure to close all my apps when I'm done with them (even keep Task Manager on the first page.) Even with nothing besides Activesync open, I commonly get an error from Opera that "a critical component is missing."
Another bug that really pisses me off, is that when I'm browsing Opera in landscape mode and lock the screen, the lockscreen appears in landscape, and I cannot open it.
I'm mostly disappointed with the fact that this device has some of the most advanced hardware available, and yet it still lags out of the box. Watching videos of the MyTouch Slide running Expresso, I noticed that it is very fast and responsive, despite having much less horsepower under the hood. I really don't want to be forced to disable all of the eye candy or void the warranty installing custom ROMs just to get this "superphone" to run smoothly. On top of all that, it's still unclear if any better OS will be available on this device, either from the manufacturer or the devs here.
Why can't T-Mobile just release their upcoming "Project Emerald" already?
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Have you upgraded to opera 10 yet? because I don't get any problems with it. I don't care for the pinch and zoom feature, so that was not a problem for me to upgrade to it. Also the UI is better looking to me and feels more like a desktop.
try opera mini 5. much faster than opera 10 or even opera 9 that comes preinstalled with the phone.
on top of that, why downgrade to the slide? have you tried flashing a custom rom to the hd2?
i know the slide may seem more responsive but please don't judge it by watching 5 minute video. i bet that phone would experience some kind of lag after a week of use. Espresso Sense UI on that slide also hogs a bunch of memory as our own Sense UI for the HD2.
But if you're still thinking of ditching the HD2 for another T-Mobile compatible phone, I'd get the Nexus one instead. It has the same snapdragon processor not to mention it does not have SENSE to slow it down at all. Completely stock android OS.
I really don't understand this "buggyness" that people have with WM6.5 I dont have any issues with WM6.5 the only issues i notice is the HTC sense messaging lag, and the lag that the HTC Peep app creates every time it updates. I had to turn off auto updating on HTC Peep cause that got so annoying.
Some 3rd party apps are particularly bad, I think the worst i have loaded right now is the Win Mobile Foursquare app from Touchality, bloated buggy POS but its the only option on WinMO at the moment
Basically all the issues with WinMo are 3rd party programs which are likely going to cause trouble on any platform, except for the one that doesn't allow real multitasking.
1. all devices come with bugs and problems
2. all snapdragon drains your battery like crazy same with the Evo.What do you expect from a 4.3 inch screen
3. In my case their times an app its the reason for my phone crashing example motweets it slow the crap out of my hd2 it took 10 minutes to remove. putting flash on opera also a few time it crash my browser.
4. for most issues theirs solutions. my advice its to call t-mobile and tell them your phone its crashing alot and tell them you want a replacement and see if that works out for you. if it doesnt sell it if your unhappy.
Thanks again for all the replies, I definitely appreciate the input. It's nice that people are actually discussing the issues instead of simply bashing one phone and praising another.
I installed Opera 10 immediately after getting my HD2, which is the version that keeps crashing/freezing my device. I will try installing Opera Mini 5 and see how that fares, fingers crossed!
I'm also going to flash a custom ROM to my device, and see if that makes things run smoother. Right now I'm thinking the LIA ROM, I just hope it performs as good as it looks.
The reason I'm kinda pressed to make a decision, is because I'm still within my buyer's remorse period, and can return my HD2 if I'm unhappy with it. The next best thing would be the MyTouch Slide, or the Nexus 1 (which is quite a bit more expensive, and I would have to wait for it to ship.) This really doesn't leave me with much in the way of options, at least for now, which is making this decision much harder. If I do end up returning my HD2, I might just use my old RAZR for a bit, and check out "Project Emerald" in the near future. I'm really hoping more info on this gets leaked before my BR period is up.
I felt the same as you after a week or two into it. Crashes, freezes, hiccups, etc...
After installing the latest T-MO ROM Update, along with a few tweaks like Dutty's Task mgr and Cookie's Home Tab editor, CleanRam, too. No lockups for over a week.
I was super close to selling this and getting an N1. But now it's smoothing out for me.
Joe
I just got the phone today and have already had a few issues. I know part of it is just do to the fact that I'm not used to it. I hope I can work out some of these bugs. I agree that we shouldn't have to go through these lengths just to get a phone that "just works", but after all the research I did it seems like in the end it will be worth it to have a phone that doesn't have the limits that certain other phones do. I will however be playing with a mytouch slide demo unit when I can just to see how it goes. Initial reviews seem surprisingly good.
ryan562 said:
But if you're still thinking of ditching the HD2 for another T-Mobile compatible phone, I'd get the Nexus one instead. It has the same snapdragon processor not to mention it does not have SENSE to slow it down at all. Completely stock android OS.
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I agree, try the nexus 1 out!! I am half tempted to get it myself!!
I took the plunge and did it. I kept having issues with the HD2's sound switching to the earpiece (including when the phone rings, playing transformers, etc.). Because it was brand new, I took it back to get it exchanged. They said they didn't have any more and I'd have to wait for a replacement, so I said **** it and got the mytouch slide. I'm liking it a lot so far. It's very snappy, zippy, cool UI, good keyboard. I think I'll be happy with my choice. Good luck whatever you decide to do!