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Low resolution images with Opera

A colleague of another website pointed this, which went unnoticed until I paid attention. The problem is simple, fire Opera, load any website and see the images rendered in half resolution. All the images look pixelated when you double tap to zoom in; if you zoom in further it gets worser.
Anyone else?
Opera Mini 4.2 doesn’t have this problem, the built in Opera Mobile does.

Most likely your network proxy compressing them on the fly to save their bandwidth. I'm fairly sure orange do it.

Nope, I'm on WiFi connected to a network without any kind of proxy.

igalan said:
Nope, I'm on WiFi connected to a network without any kind of proxy.
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Also im noticing similar for example in Rss Hub, pictures just look disgusting, comprared to NetNewsWire in iphone for example. Opera is not this ugly, but I noticed that too when i got this phone. I thought its just my imagination...

I have the same problem also in PIE., but in opera it's even worst.

I have just tried with my Diamond, and same thing. So it must be Opera that has designed the browser to present lower resolution images in order to preserve memory or speed up browsing. Nevertheless, it's a pity that you don't have the real thing on such a high resolution screen.
Opera Mini 4.2 does use full resolution images, but more compressed. It looks much better.

and there's nothing in opera:config

Yes, I've looked at opera.ini but there's nothing related. The registry doesn't have any setting either .

Nice to find you also here igalan (nos leemos...).
Doesn't look so bad for me.
Make a try with google images in full resolution and zoom in. No pixelation at all until you zoom too much

Hi man!
Ok, I've found the reason of all this. When you double tap on Opera, the zoom level that is being applied is larger than 100% which means that pictures are stretched and results in some pixelation. Manually reducing the zoom level until you get the page rendered in 1:1 resolution (not zoomed out or zoomed in) gets you full quality images as well.

i connected my laptop up to mt hd via wifi to use it's HSDPA connection. browsing in firefox images are rendered in half resolution. when i hover over an image a message appears saying press shift+r to improve the quality of this image. when i do that it downloads the image again in full resolution.
the fact that i'm using firefox on my laptop and just using the internet connection on my phone makes me think that my network provider is the problem.
what do you think?

Post your Opera settings/secrets/hints. All versions!

I post this here and not in the General section, because I'm interested specifically about best configuration for the X1.
What is your configuration in opera:config? Any secrets or tips? How to achieve best performance? Fast, responsive and lag free Opera? How to fix the annoying crashes? Etc, etc, etc.
Anything that comes to mind peeps. Post it for the win!

Just curious - is there a reason you're using 9.5 versus 9.7?
Anyways, I changed the adaptive zoom to 480 to make verticle reading much nicer.
Under performance, I increased "the Max Connections Server" to 12-16, "Max Connections Total" to 32, and disabled "Reduce Max Persistent HTTP Connections"
Turning on "Automatic memory cache" under user prefs made Opera non responsive and crash happy.
Other than that - it runs well; hasn't crashed on me yet.

Yeah I actually use Opera 9.7 which is much superior,
besides it has a screwed upload.
In 9.7 increased possible tabs open to 5,
plus changed:
Go to "User prefs"
3) Uncheck "UAProf URL enabled" to disable mobile view
user agent
spoof user agent "2" for smalller font....

TofuJoe said:
Just curious - is there a reason you're using 9.5 versus 9.7?
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Because 9.7 sucks at the moment IMHO. It is not user friendly at all. I am not going to be a beta tester lol.
Thanks for the tips .
P.S. MORE TIPS NEEDED!!!!!!!!!

TofuJoe said:
Just curious - is there a reason you're using 9.5 versus 9.7?
Anyways, I changed the adaptive zoom to 480 to make verticle reading much nicer.
Under performance, I increased "the Max Connections Server" to 12-16, "Max Connections Total" to 32, and disabled "Reduce Max Persistent HTTP Connections"
Turning on "Automatic memory cache" under user prefs made Opera non responsive and crash happy.
Other than that - it runs well; hasn't crashed on me yet.
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Sorry to go off topic, but to you guys using 9.7b, what bugs are introduced, and what features do we lose that we had before? I'm guessing volume button zooming, and smooth touchpad scrolling are two features that get lost...unless you hack them back in.
I've always had issues when changing from the oem Opera version on past HTC devices, so that's why I'm asking, and that's why I haven't bothered to upgrade, and maybe whey orelsei hasn't either.
Back on topic, how do you get the scrolling rate to be go further/faster in Opera with each finger flick?

The biggest difference was the hardware button scrolling, but i found the overall hw acellerated scrolling more preferable. Just a personal preference.
The only bug I've noticed repeatedly is sometimes when clicking that star button for your favorites, it opens up with a scroll bar on the right. When that happens, I am unable to scroll down the list via finger - dpad only. This seems to happen when Opera is still loading a page and I suddenly click the menu tab and click favorites. (or so I've noticed)
Odd bug, if I use the HW keyboard to type in something at the address or search bars, pressing the enter key just dismisses the bar and opera switches back to full screen reading. I need to actually press the graphical button on the screen to get Opera to open the address/search I typed in. I'm not sure if that's how it's supposed to work though.
doministry's tips are cool though - I hate it when some websites insist they show you the mobile version regardless of your prefereces.
Off topic, but Opera Mini 5 is MUCH fasterif you use that turbo mode setting. It's on average +2x faster on my X1 than Opera 97b1 with Turbo mode on. I with 97b was that fast... can't have everything I guess.

So to you guys using OperaMobile 9.7:
how to set the browser to store downloads to Card?
Lately everything is stored to internal memory, even when I choose a memory card!
@orelsi
Well, you must admit with 9.5 we were also beta testers!
As for 9.5 vs 9.7, I appreciate much faster menus and less crashes
(however the flash support is still a pain...)

By using UserScript you can hide the adverts in 9.7 (and I'm guessing 9.5)
http://blog.artesea.co.uk/2009/08/ad-free-mobile-browsing.html

doministry said:
So to you guys using OperaMobile 9.7:
how to set the browser to store downloads to Card?
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When you are talking about downloads .... I was trying to setup default download folder to storage card\downloads, but with no success. Every time I have to change from internal memory to storage card, then change folder for downloads. It makes me crazy Any idea how to make it automatically choose specified folder for all downloads?

Great tips and info guys! That's exactly what I meant for this thread. I guess it should be about all Opera version not 9.5 only. The more, the better .
@ doministry
I mean that 9.7 is still in beta, while 9.5 is a finished product. I have no doubt that I will change to 9.7 when the final product arrives.
@ sonus
I have noticed that the stock Opera build is the most stable one as well.
MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!

doministry said:
Yeah I actually use Opera 9.7 which is much superior,
besides it has a screwed upload.
In 9.7 increased possible tabs open to 5,
plus changed:
Go to "User prefs"
3) Uncheck "UAProf URL enabled" to disable mobile view
user agent
spoof user agent "2" for smalller font....
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Can i use my hw-keyboard everywhere with 9.7?
Can you scroll with the optical button?
btw, you can set the max number of tabs with the :config (mentioned in the first post) easily (in every version).

doministry said:
Yeah I actually use Opera 9.7 which is much superior,
besides it has a screwed upload.
In 9.7 increased possible tabs open to 5,
plus changed:
Go to "User prefs"
3) Uncheck "UAProf URL enabled" to disable mobile view
user agent
spoof user agent "2" for smalller font....
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How did you get 5 tabs available on Opera 9.7? I still can only open 3.

Looks like I found it.
Opera:Config > User Pref > Maximum Allowed Tabs > 10
I can open 10 tabs now! Not that I will need it though, but cool nonetheless.

sopdogg said:
How did you get 5 tabs available on Opera 9.7? I still can only open 3.
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In any and every version of Opera (even the desktop version) type Opera:config in the address bar, and you'll get the option to edit just about anything you could ever desire, including the max tab number. Do a search for tabs in the Quick Find that comes up, and you'll see what you can edit as far as tabs go. FYI, a restart of Opera might be required to have changes go into effect (I don't recall, since its been a while since I toyed with the config setting).

Anyone tried Opera 9.7 build 35432 or 35443?

AndiCP said:
Can i use my hw-keyboard everywhere with 9.7?
Can you scroll with the optical button?
btw, you can set the max number of tabs with the :config (mentioned in the first post) easily (in every version).
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You can use hw-keyboard everywhere.
Scrolling - I don't know, never tried it really,
but as I remember it scrolls through links...
Edit:
Yep, the srolling goes through links..
@orelsi
LOL, Opera Mobile 9.5 was never a finished product!
It was also always beta!

doministry said:
You can use hw-keyboard everywhere.
Scrolling - I don't know, never tried it really,
but as I remember it scrolls through links...
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Yep, the srolling goes through links..
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Thanks doministry,
so i'll give it another shot.
Although I like the "normal" scrolling with the O-Button.
Is the D-Pad doing a "normal" scroll then or is it jumping from link to link as well?
I'm asking because I customized my 9.5 build a lot and now (sort of) migrating to 9.7 is just a pure hassle if it doesn't work the way I like it in the end.

AndiCP said:
Thanks doministry,
so i'll give it another shot.
Although I like the "normal" scrolling with the O-Button.
Is the D-Pad doing a "normal" scroll then or is it jumping from link to link as well?
I'm asking because I customized my 9.5 build a lot and now (sort of) migrating to 9.7 is just a pure hassle if it doesn't work the way I like it in the end.
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No there's no "normal" scroll here.
I use 9.7 'cos it's waaaay faster in UI/menus.
And less crashing than 9.5.
The ony single reason why I still use 9.5 sometimes
is the upload photos on my blog.....
Honestly can't wait to see a final
with hopefuly Flash 10.1 there.

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Anyone tried Opera 9.7 build 35432 or 35443?
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I did, I cooked them in my rom but both are giving problems with the hardware keyboard.

doministry said:
No there's no "normal" scroll here.
I use 9.7 'cos it's waaaay faster in UI/menus.
And less crashing than 9.5.
The ony single reason why I still use 9.5 sometimes
is the upload photos on my blog.....
Honestly can't wait to see a final
with hopefuly Flash 10.1 there.
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My 9.5 (16702) stopped crashing after I ran the "fixOperaFlash.exe".
And can display all webpages PIE can, but much faster.
Only thing is hw-keyborad is not working in forms (in opera ui it does, dunno why).
But no "normal" and therefor fast scrolling (9.7) s*cks as well IMHO.
I'm not using the opera UI/menus very often.

getting a bit sick of.........

having to flick between 4 different browsers on my phone as not one of thems really any good....
opera 10: looks nice and sharp, quick but is well and truely let down with the default screen image size and zoom options, no pinch to zoom and vids wont play.....useless
opera 9.7: looks good with nice default screen size. has pinch to zoom but is pretty dreadfull to use, you do the finger motion and you end up nowhere near where you need to be. again, vids wont play.....useless
skyfire: looks ok but its pretty jittery and nowhere near as fast as opera. no pinch to zoom and the zooming options are nothing to write about but at least it plays vids.
ie: hardly ever use this one as its so slow.
appart from browsing i think the phone is pretty sweet, its just a real shame using the internet is (for me) becoming a pain. whats your thoughts guys....?

I think Opera Mobile is amazing. I couldn't fault it in any way. Why does everyone complain about no pinch to zoom when a swift double tap works better.

with Opera 10 you only have to tap once to zoom in!
its so smooth, the scrolling is as smooth as butter and its so fast.
sure not playing flash is a pain, but its not essential, especially if youre complaning that you cant watch youtube on your browser when youve got an app for just that

Opera is gorgeous, fast, so fast... and completely flawless.
I'm using the 9.7 build that comes standard on the T-Mobile USA model. I also tweaked tons of the Opera cache settings, page loading, thumbnail, and zooming functions as well.

I think your alone on this one bud.
opera is badass by its self. opera 10 is freakin sweet.
btw ... why so many complaints about a sweet ass phone?

each to their own bud. its just a useful feature. on opera 10, when i tap to zoom its still sometimes hard to hit links or page numbers as it still too small. altering the zoom is hit an miss as if you make the zoom bigger it ends up too large for the screen. if i had pinch to zoom could make links and what not just a bit bigger.
i dont like the fact i cant play youtube vids on opera either, my phone from 3 years ago could do it........
opera 10 runs very slick but has major flaws, just my opinion.

Reignzone said:
Opera is gorgeous, fast, so fast... and completely flawless.
I'm using the 9.7 build that comes standard on the T-Mobile USA model. I also tweaked tons of the Opera cache settings, page loading, thumbnail, and zooming functions as well.
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can you say what you have done tweak wise? i never seem to get a browsing experience to match my mates iphone...which im sure you can understand is annoying

IE seems pretty damn fast to me. I accidentally made it default and was shocked at how usable it was.
Opera 9.7 - not jittery, but i never use the pinch to zoom...ever. but I do use it because it launches and runs more snappily for a quick browse. it's lighter in resources.
Mobile 10 - my default. it takes longer to load than 9.7 and no pinch, but flash plugin works, double tap to zoom with reflow usually works. rendering good. fast, speedy. and page rendering without checkered boxes as in 9.7 or IE. Fab. Not perfect, but pretty damn good.
Never even needed to install skyfire after mobile10.
Why not try iphone instead? Or Android? I hear their browsers are even better
Just remember, technology is always work in progress. No browser, even on the desktop, is perfect. And I'm surprised they ALL work as well as they do on winmo - browsing is better on winmo than iphone and android. That was one reason that swayed me to winmo.

What do you suppose the better alternative is?
The iPhone browser?
I have an iPhone and its browser has nothing on Opera 10...even with pinch to zoom.
At least you have options. Flash isn't even an option on the iPhone!

I guess that I'm in the minority but I like IE best. The zoom on the Opera just isn't as easy to use as IE's slider control but maybe I just havn't used Opera enough. I also have an iPhone 3GS and while I like the browser and touchscreen response better, in every other category the HD2 wins hands down.

donwhann said:
having to flick between 4 different browsers on my phone as not one of thems really any good....
opera 10: looks nice and sharp, quick but is well and truely let down with the default screen image size and zoom options, no pinch to zoom and vids wont play.....useless
opera 9.7: looks good with nice default screen size. has pinch to zoom but is pretty dreadfull to use, you do the finger motion and you end up nowhere near where you need to be. again, vids wont play.....useless
skyfire: looks ok but its pretty jittery and nowhere near as fast as opera. no pinch to zoom and the zooming options are nothing to write about but at least it plays vids.
ie: hardly ever use this one as its so slow.
appart from browsing i think the phone is pretty sweet, its just a real shame using the internet is (for me) becoming a pain. whats your thoughts guys....?
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are you using the Latest Stock WWE 1.66 ROM
Opera Browsing here is second to none!

Maybe Opera Mini 5 is a good choice for you. Blazing fast, though no flash.
BTW: Opera Mobile 10 does support flash: settings - enable plugins - ready and IE also, to a certain extent, supports flash.

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are you using the Latest Stock WWE 1.66 ROM
Opera Browsing here is second to none!
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yeah im using the latest rom bud. dont get me wrong, opera 10 is very fast and slick but just seems set up wrong for the screen size.if there was a zoom slider like in ie that would be sound enough. as it is, opera10 seems unfinished. also, not been able to view embedded videos on most sites is just complete madness. I know some people are saying "well hd2 already has a decent youtube app, use that", but what goods that when the video I might wanna watch is embedded in a page that wont allow me to view it....?. it all just seems like such a wasted opportunity on such a quality device. its the phones biggest downfall which is mad given this screen was made for viewing the internet on.......

IE is the only one (other than skyfire but that looks rubbish) that plays flash videos on site like bbc news, so I'm always switching between using Opera 10 for speed and IE for video.
Count yourself lucky that you can install whatever browser you want on WM, Apple still hasnt approved Opera mini on the ****phone

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IE is the only one (other than skyfire but that looks rubbish) that plays flash videos on site like bbc news, so I'm always switching between using Opera 10 for speed and IE for video.
Count yourself lucky that you can install whatever browser you want on WM, Apple still hasnt approved Opera mini on the ****phone
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yeah its pretty good that you can install other browsers, its just a pity the fastest and best looking one doesn't function that well. hey, these are just my opinions guys and im happy your happy with it lol.......

opera pics blurry on hd2 ..helpppppp??

when i zoom in on website pics, pics and text are blurry as hell. it looks terrible . need help, how do i fix this??????

Disable "Turbo Mode"...

on opera 9????
how do you turn turbo off???

This was why I changed to Opera 10.. Wouldnt go back to 9 now. I never use pinch to zoom anyway.

It is blurry because of the dot pitch. You're actually stretching that image to 800 pixels wide.
(Edit: A better resize algorithm could help too)

Maybe you are with Tmobile, they use terrible image compression to save on bandwidth. well in the UK atleast.

[Q] browser settings for archives.newyorker.com??

Hi,
Has anyone found a browser that allows you to read the on line archives of the New Yorker magazine? The built in browser only shows part of each page and does not let you move the screen around to see the rest of the page. Have tried all the UA strings but no joy.
I did find that I could read using the Dolphin browser as long as I use the URL of archives.newyorker.com/ipad and set the UA string to ipad though the display is still less than ideal. Sometimes portrait mode single page display shows the full page but reduced in size to about 75% of normal so it does not fill the screen and the type is quite small. Other times it does actually fill the screen but has a flashing white bar at the bottom.
Perhaps someone who is more familiar with Dolphin can suggest what adjustments to the settings in Dolphin will optimize the view. I'm perfectly happy using the built in browser for everything but the New Yorker and Dolphin for only the New Yorker if I could just get it to display clearly on a consistent basis. In Dolphin's page content settings, I have text size set to Large and Default Zoom set to Medium. I switched the ipad applet settings so that portrait mode shows a single page - just wish I could get rid of the flashing white line at the bottom.
On the other hand, clearly the people at the magazine don't care about Android users since the display in most Android browsers has been garbled since the first time I checked, a year or more ago but they were quick to jump on the iApple tablet bandwagon with a page optimized just for the iApple. Even the archives on DVD don't display properly when saved as a PDF since they're actually djvu files so I can say New Yorker hasn't exactly been technology-savvy or else they just want to keep selling dead-tree magazines even though they finally have a chance to ditch the paper, ink, and distribution/postage costs with a digital model if they could just embrace modern browsers and tablets.
Rob
Rob