A colleague of another website pointed this, which went unnoticed until I paid attention. The problem is simple, fire Opera, load any website and see the images rendered in half resolution. All the images look pixelated when you double tap to zoom in; if you zoom in further it gets worser.
Anyone else?
Opera Mini 4.2 doesn’t have this problem, the built in Opera Mobile does.
Most likely your network proxy compressing them on the fly to save their bandwidth. I'm fairly sure orange do it.
Nope, I'm on WiFi connected to a network without any kind of proxy.
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Nope, I'm on WiFi connected to a network without any kind of proxy.
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Also im noticing similar for example in Rss Hub, pictures just look disgusting, comprared to NetNewsWire in iphone for example. Opera is not this ugly, but I noticed that too when i got this phone. I thought its just my imagination...
I have the same problem also in PIE., but in opera it's even worst.
I have just tried with my Diamond, and same thing. So it must be Opera that has designed the browser to present lower resolution images in order to preserve memory or speed up browsing. Nevertheless, it's a pity that you don't have the real thing on such a high resolution screen.
Opera Mini 4.2 does use full resolution images, but more compressed. It looks much better.
and there's nothing in opera:config
Yes, I've looked at opera.ini but there's nothing related. The registry doesn't have any setting either .
Nice to find you also here igalan (nos leemos...).
Doesn't look so bad for me.
Make a try with google images in full resolution and zoom in. No pixelation at all until you zoom too much
Hi man!
Ok, I've found the reason of all this. When you double tap on Opera, the zoom level that is being applied is larger than 100% which means that pictures are stretched and results in some pixelation. Manually reducing the zoom level until you get the page rendered in 1:1 resolution (not zoomed out or zoomed in) gets you full quality images as well.
i connected my laptop up to mt hd via wifi to use it's HSDPA connection. browsing in firefox images are rendered in half resolution. when i hover over an image a message appears saying press shift+r to improve the quality of this image. when i do that it downloads the image again in full resolution.
the fact that i'm using firefox on my laptop and just using the internet connection on my phone makes me think that my network provider is the problem.
what do you think?
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works fine on my device and on the htc HD without the need for wvgafix3
enjoy
direct cab download
http://get.skyfire.com/
the graphics looks scaled up from wqvga 400x240. why? maybe to save bandwidth?
i don't think you're allowed to post that, from what I understand skyfire have been complaining about copyright infringement.
Unless of course they've released it already that is..
i removed it i dont want to get into truble.
get it from here .9.0.9151
http://get.skyfire.com/
scrolling not as smooth as in opera. youtube video playback is a little laggy.
I really liked it. Much faster than Opera for me and the flash support is pretty good. Im looking forward to the next release for sure.
I gave it a try on my xperia TouchIT 3.5 RC1, i didn't find it good: no easy zoom, laggy youtube, and blurred text.
for now i'll stick with Oper...
I prefer Opera as well. There was much talk about this and was expecting way more. Unless you zoom in, everything is blurry (so how am i suppose to know whether I want to zoom in or not), it's laggy and just like opera it does not work with certificates. So I am sticking with opera for everyday browsing and internet explorer for certificate use.
Hmm, it really seems to be 400x240... I can't get it started, it says acquiring data connection and check flight mode, or do I only have to wait some time?
Got it, with WLAN it works, maybe I haven't waited long enough... seems to be not very fast...
got the same problem. but since its scaled anyway, i dont care much cause i dont think im going to use this.
text could be better. i have to refresh every now and then to get the text to clear up. playing the web video is good but could be smoother. its a beta and hopefully it gets better.
i found it to be a bit slow but i may attribute that to my wi-fi connection as to i am always past 30ft from my wireless connection and that i have it installed on my storage card.
for now its another web tool to keep in case i want to view a page with video content.
Youtube works, not perfect, but it works, that's nice, a fullscreen mode for the videos would be nice... the resolution is not nice, I think in full WVGA it would look much better...
full resolution will probably make go even slower. i think its geting pages as pictures as i see it supporting text languages that i know are not suppoted by my phone
they should dither the picture to make look less pixely
To me, the older Skyfire version 0.9.0.8294 seems to be better. It still looks blurry when zoomed out, but when you zoom in completely, it renders the page clearly. The .9151 version still looks blurry even if you zoom in completely.
are they caching the sites and we are getting the sites off their server??
this is a big security risk!
I noticed that because our proxy server is being bypassed
mystkai they aren't caching site, they are loading them for you on their fast servers and then sending an image down to your phone. Which is one of the reasons like Opera Mini why I tend not to use them.
I think it's the best flash included browser yet. My only problem with it so far is that it really does work best in wifi. The videos are at times choppy, but better than nothing at all.
is there a way to make it play the video in full screen or close to full screen. the zoom in function cannot be fine tuned
I personally like it alot. Yeah is blurry and laggy but is still a Beta remember. Once they fix those things it will be the best i think.
I think Skyfire has a great potential, and if it works without laggs and in full wvga it will be a great browser, I hope the next beta will work better, than I can watch youtube
Hi Guys,
Sorry if this is turns out to be something really stupid and simple, but I've looked about for ages and can't seem to fix this problem...
I was looking on the tweaks page and decided to try the tweak to allow me access to the iplayer website. All worked well and I had no problems on the web page, but ever since I've done this ever website i seem to goto all the images now seem really grainy and poor. I've since changed back the "Custom User-Agent" field to what it was before, but this hasn't made any difference.
Has anyone else experienced this problem, or at least know a way to restore it to how it was before? Just hoping for a quick-fix rather than another hard-reset...
Many thanks in advance
Haven't you experimented with Opera Turbo too ? Since new Opera Turbo uses pretty high image compression. Opera Turbo can be turned on somewhere in opera:config on HD2.
Hmm not that i can see, the option is still unticked there so i don't think it's that... But i'll have a play about and post back what happens. Thanks though!
UPDATE: I've had another look and Turbo is turned off. I even tried loading up a page on Internet Explorer just to check I'm not just being fussy, but the image quality is much better on IE that Opera all of a sudden...
normally you can set the image quality in opera. there must be a setting somewhere that lets you select high/medium/low quality.
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...but the image quality is much better on IE that Opera all of a sudden...
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I agree, and I'm glad someone's raised this. It's one of those things that makes me think "I must check on XDA to see if anyone else thinks that the image quality is a bit pap", but I always forget.
Thanks for asking this
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normally you can set the image quality in opera. there must be a setting somewhere that lets you select high/medium/low quality.
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I believe that only applies on Turbo.
I also want to sort the poor quality of the images in opera.. looks really naff!
I'm also dissappointed in the quality... Hope there will be a fix for this...
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I'm also dissappointed in the quality... Hope there will be a fix for this...
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I'm surprised more people haven't picked up on this one.. On a nice large screen I want all pictures to look their best. Things like the google logo etc looks terrible. Surely there is a mod/setting that can be changed!?
yes but opera mini has a built in turbo mode , and the picture quality is 110% sperior to everyhing else
change show pictures in user prefs to 2
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yes but opera mini has a built in turbo mode , and the picture quality is 110% sperior to everyhing else
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In mini you can set picture quality.
Opera turbo has to be turned off if you want god picture qualities.
My apologies for having missed this thread: I started another one on the same subject here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=622661
Seeing as this problem affects me not just in Opera but in IE as well, my tentative conclusion is that it's not the application that's the problem, but my mobile carrier (T-mobile in my case). If I (and others who came to the same conlusion, many before I did) are correct, then what happens is that the carrier detects you are requesting a JPEG image on your data connection, fetches the JPEG itself, recompresses it to make the file smaller, and then forwards on to you the compressed version. Opera or IE is unaware of this, and simply displays the image it gets. This image is also cached; so, if you fetch the compressed version you will see that same compressed version again the next time you visit the page, even if you're browsing over wifi. The only way to see the uncompressed version is to exit Opera, go back in, clear the cache, then connect to the page in question over Wifi or ActiveSync.
I just downloaded a map from Sugarbush Ski mountain in Vermont so I'd have it handy when skiing there. Unfortunately, when I zoom in the image is so blurry that I can't really read the text. The same map looks fine on my desktop computer.
Unfortunately I can't post a link to the map because the XDA developer's site won't allow me to (you can't post links until you've made 5 other posts to the forum). Just google 'Sugarbush' and you will be able to find the static trail map image. Someone else who's been around here longer could post the link in a follow up message.
I've tried viewing it in multiple programs (standard browser, Dolphin browser, gallery view), and all show the same problem.
Can other Nexus one owners confirm that they have the same issue?
Any suggestions?
I think android might downsize/downconvert images automatically so you will not be getting the original resolution of the image.
UPDATE:I can confirm that the image is definitely lower resolution than the one that appears on desktop. Here is the link:
http://www.sugarbush.com/images/skiandride/trailmap0910large.jpg
I just mounted my Nexus via USB and checked the file that I'd downloaded to it. The actual file stored on the Nexus One is full resolution and displays fine on the PC. It's just on the Nexus that it fails to display well.
This seems more like a bug then a feature.
I just made a simple 2000x1000 graphic with two strings of text, one aliased and the other antialiased with a crosshatched background.
img22.imageshack.us
/img22/9896/2000x10005pxcheckerboar.jpg
You can clearly see how blurry both lines of text and the crosshatches are when you zoom in on the android browser or in the gallery. It looks like there is either a huge amount of compression being applied to the image, or that the image is being resized for viewing and the blur effect is due to a loss of detail that you don't get back when you zoom in.
I don't know if imageshack has a bandwidth limit, but here is the same image on imgur.com. You can see the extra effects of blurring, though you also see a lot of jpeg artifacting from the high compression imgur apparently automatically applies.
i.imgur.com
/VVdwQ.jpg
* sorry for the broken links. Despite having joined 2+ years ago, my low post count prevents me from posting urls. If anyone else can repost those links as real urls, it would be great.
I was wondering if anyone is also having this problem.. when i use the net on my phone some of the images are just too blurry is there any way to fix this.. and yes i have searched the forums and google but can't seem to find a solution...tia
What browser are you using? Opera Mobile 9.7? Opera Mobile 10 has an option to compress pictures that may have been enabled (who wouldn't enable a "turbo" mode?), and Opera Mini does it by default.
i was using Opera 9.7 and 10 but its still the same... i did however notice on skyfire
that they looked a bit better
Try looking at them on internet explorer. Notice any difference?
The problem is that the browsers are not drawing images at a 1:1 pixel ratio, instead they're being stretched awkwardly and no filter is being applied.
For Opera 9.7, you can use the opera:config menu to fix this, just on the area for "Adaptive Zoom", change the "Default Zoom" to 100 and for extra credit change the Virtual Window Width to 1024 (most pages are designed to work on a 1024-wide window).
After this, your full zoom-out will show the whole page fitted left-to-right. When you double-tap to zoom-in, you'll be at 1:1 (usually, sometimes it takes more than one try, zooming is kinda shaky) pixel ratio, so all your images will look crisp and sharp.
There's nothing you can do about Opera 10, they screwed it up and there's no way to get the pixel ratio on images at 1:1, the same can be said about IE and Skyfire (though both of those do a better job at applying some filters to images).
There's something about HVGA that browsers don't like...
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What browser are you using? Opera Mobile 9.7? Opera Mobile 10 has an option to compress pictures that may have been enabled (who wouldn't enable a "turbo" mode?), and Opera Mini does it by default.
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Opera Mobile's "Turbo" is horribly broken. Most of the time page-loading will be a lot slower with "Turbo" on (most noticeable while using WiFi).
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The problem is that the browsers are not drawing images at a 1:1 pixel ratio, instead they're being stretched awkwardly and no filter is being applied.
For Opera 9.7, you can use the opera:config menu to fix this, just on the area for "Adaptive Zoom", change the "Default Zoom" to 100 and for extra credit change the Virtual Window Width to 1024 (most pages are designed to work on a 1024-wide window).
After this, your full zoom-out will show the whole page fitted left-to-right. When you double-tap to zoom-in, you'll be at 1:1 (usually, sometimes it takes more than one try, zooming is kinda shaky) pixel ratio, so all your images will look crisp and sharp.
There's nothing you can do about Opera 10, they screwed it up and there's no way to get the pixel ratio on images at 1:1, the same can be said about IE and Skyfire (though both of those do a better job at applying some filters to images).
There's something about HVGA that browsers don't like...
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Ok thanks Jubeh i followed your configs and it did improve image viewing... i'm glad you know more about this because i couldn't find a solution so thank you my friend
Using opera on my hd2 I get very poor image quality, even with turbo off.
I have looked through all thread i can find on this but no luck.
No matter what data connection i use to get internet, including wifi, image quality is poor.
However if i display the same webpage on windows IE that came on the phone, image quality is great.
Also my network provider does not compress images!
What can i do to make my opera display better quality images?
no issues with PQ here although they load up grainy at first and then once they are completely loaded look great
in my settings I have only load images set to on and everything else set to off and then under advanced plug-ins are set to on
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no issues with PQ here although they load up grainy at first and then once they are completely loaded look great
in my settings I have only load images set to on and everything else set to off and then under advanced plug-ins are set to on
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exactly the same as me but im still getting very low res images
I think some networks can affect this.......
I remember reading a while ago about some people on tmobile uk having crappy images due to some sort of compression put in place by tmobile......
Not sure if its still the case but it could be the cause of your problem......
thanks but that isnt my problem, as when i use internet explorer, images display fine. Its something opera is doing