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best browser for my htc touch!!

hey all!!
Can someone give me a link for the best browser for my touch please??? like the iphone or the nokia browser plz??
And for Skyfire, I have download it but it tell me that my number is not good, I want to know how to use skyfire without the number problem.
Bye!!

If you want skyfire you must sign up for the beta program and you will eventually be sent the installation package.
Try Opera or Opera Mini.

i'm working through browsers now, trying to figure out which one i like the most. here's a quick personal rundown of browsers I have installed...
Opera Mini 4
Positives:
SUPERFAST with the latest Jbed, absolutely the fastest browser in the WM market, hands down
Very light on cpu
Negatives:
can't select text
no easy way to quickly edit the current URL
can't copy link location
everytime i minimize then reopen the browser, i'm asked if i want to exit or resume Opera Mini. just gets annoying after a while
if i want to save the url of a page i'm on, i have to go to "add bookmark", then copy the url out of there. something else that's annoying is, if i'm zoomed in a page, and i click on a link, the new link loads and prevents me access to the zooming out feature. i have to be missing something here.
Opera Browser 8.65
Positives:
Good standards compliance as far as i know
Works with some flash, but not stuff like regular youtube
Tabbed browsing
Negatives:
feels sluggish, especially with tabs open
Opera Browser 9.5 Beta, build 4905 (aka 9.405)
Positives:
Fast
Customizable (zoom levels and stuff like that)
Negatives:
Only two zoom levels accessible
Clearly a leaked beta, with little niggles in the qVGA skin (for example, URL history is annoying)
Cannot be used with PCMKeyboard, because it inputs s p a c e s (<--like that) when typing in input fields
Page-Panning is slowed down because of FTouchFlo. There's a lag in screen movement when you pan around, but it works perfectly when I try it without FTouchFlo enabled. Therefore, should be fine for you, since you have built-in scrolling on your Touch
Netfront Browser Technical Preview v3.5
Positives:
Nice interface, I like the double-tap view because of it's ease of access
Negatives:
When loading a page (full browsing rendering mode), it'll load, then freeze for about 10 seconds, THEN allow you to finally browse the loaded page
Missing some features because it's a tech preview
Horrendous CPU Hog, you have to remember to go into bookmarks everytime you switch to a different application in order to prevent device slowdown
ibisBrowserDX v1.0
Positives:
Fast
Negatives:
Designed for usage with keyboard and pretty difficult to use with only the touchscreen (basic browser controls are hidden in a menu)
Internet Explorer Mobile from WM6.1 (with zoom-out feature)
Positives:
works perfectly with all Windows actions, like opening links, downloading things, etc
Negatives:
slow
zooming-out feature isn't that useful, because it's stuck inside a menu.
no built-in scrolling in IEM itself, but you can use FTouchFlo or the system-scrolling in your Touch with it perfectly fine.
I haven't been invited to the SkyFire beta, although I did sign up for it a while ago. Therefore, I can't comment on it. Looks really promising, though.
Hope that helps. I got CARRIED AWAY, hahahah.
By the way, this is my current setup:
Opera 9.5 build 4905 for long browsing sessions
Opera Mini 4 if I just want to quickly look up something, or if I'm surfing heavy sites like ESPN or Yahoo and want the speed.
Internet Explorer Mobile set as my default browser, to ensure there are no setup hassles when internet is crucial to something (for example, FlashVideoBundle, ytpocket.com, downloading files, etc)

Picsel Browser without a doubt!

you forgot deepfish...
its not perfect, since its a closed beta.
but it is a nice browser.
i have noticed that i cannot log in to websites... like this one. not sure why, but i am sure it will be fixed in later editions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=327568

Azimuth21 said:
Netfront Browser Technical Preview v3.5
Positives:
Nice interface, I like the double-tap view because of it's ease of access
Negatives:
When loading a page (full browsing rendering mode), it'll load, then freeze for about 10 seconds, THEN allow you to finally browse the loaded page
Missing some features because it's a tech preview
Horrendous CPU Hog, you have to remember to go into bookmarks everytime you switch to a different application in order to prevent device slowdown
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This is the best I have ever tried....
I haven't this kind of problem you said....
I think because I have Battery Status with Cpu Scaler which can set the cpu clock until 260 mhz...

might as well add a little postscript to my previous post.
1) As with SkyFire, I am also not part of the Deepfish closed beta, so I cannot comment on that.
2) I abandoned Picsel Browser a loooong time ago, for too many factors to count. Menneisyys seems to be in-depth on these things, he'll tell you why.
3) flaviopac, I really hoped that it's just me, but countless other people have experienced it. I'm playing with all of these browsers on my Hermes, whose 400 mhz Samsung processor hopefully trounces the 200 mhz TI OMAP processor of the Touch you have (ok, 260 mhz since you overclocked it, lol). Keep in mind that it isn't Netfront itself that slows down. Open up Netfront 3.5, minimize it by pressing the red End Key, and now go about daily functions. Horrifically slow, if I recall. Not to mention the battery drain. Like I said, there IS a workaround. Whenever I'm using Netfront and want to switch to a different app, I first go to the bookmarks screen of Netfront, THEN switch apps. Device runs normally when I do that, it's just that doing that is a tedious extra step.
It's cool, though, to each his own. Wish I could try out SkyFire or Deepfish now, though...

thank for everyone !
I have tied all these browsers and it's so cool!

Very slowly Opera 9.5

Ehh why opera on touch hd is so slowly ? Safari browser on ipod touch was faster... much faster. Maybe some options in opera i should change ? Help...

The HD has a much higher resolution which means Opera takes more CPU resources to scroll. The browser is not really slow, it's more the scrolling effect that is slow.
There is no way to just fix this.
For almost the same reason, Everything on the HD is a little slower, such as finger scrolling through any list in Manila...

maziboss said:
Ehh why opera on touch hd is so slowly ? Safari browser on ipod touch was faster... much faster. Maybe some options in opera i should change ? Help...
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How good is the HSDPA signal at that location? What download speed are you achieving at that location?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2939599
Try it.

vincent1 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2939599
Try it.
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cheers Vincent
If you answer the 'how?' question (please!), I most certainly will give it a go

eaglesteve said:
How good is the HSDPA signal at that location? What download speed are you achieving at that location?
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i'm connecting to my wifi wireless (10 Mbits).
And one question:
why when page is loading (see part of web) i can't click to another links on this web ?

nin2thevoid said:
The HD has a much higher resolution which means Opera takes more CPU resources to scroll. The browser is not really slow, it's more the scrolling effect that is slow.
There is no way to just fix this.
For almost the same reason, Everything on the HD is a little slower, such as finger scrolling through any list in Manila...
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What processor speed do you reckon would make the difference?

Tricky to answer. There aren't much WinMo devices using this resolution and most other devices perform exactly the same. Some even slower, such as the Diamond. HTC has done a lot of optimizations between the Diamond and the HD to make sure things run faster even under the same hardware. So it's not only a question of CPU speed.
Software updates on Opera can make a difference, just like software updates on the HD.
In short: I have yet to see a VGA or higher WinMo phone make Opera scroll absolutely smooth. As for page access times, this is much faster than in Internet Explorer, for example, and quite on par with Safari on the iPhone. Really the only difference I see is that scrolling has a lower framerate, but that is in most applications on the HD as far as I am concerned. It does everything, but it just isn't butter smooth.
Do try the link a couple of posts earlier, using Schap's Advanced Config. Making more resources available helps significantly, and makes me wonder why those settings don't come default on these devices??

if you have already set your system cache to 8000kb, there's an option to do the same in the Opera settings as well, it may make sense to do this as well !!!

Jezwick said:
if you have already set your system cache to 8000kb, there's an option to do the same in the Opera settings as well, it may make sense to do this as well !!!
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That is completely different from the file system cache and thus will not change performance like that.
It's the browser cache, meaning the files you've already downloaded will be stored there, so the browser does not have to download them again when you visit the same page.
Increasing this will allow for more files to be stored, taking up storage on your device, not your RAM.
And the limit is 10MB, not 8MB, so you might as well go with 10MB then.

Opera annoyance

Ok, running default Opera, which is 9.5 build 2682.
1. I can't click unless I zoom in. Very annoying. Any way to change this?
2. There are a few things, like now ability to have popups, I think and maybe page redirects that are preventing me from logging into my dispatch website. is there any info on this?

scythe000 said:
Ok, running default Opera, which is 9.5 build 2682.
1. I can't click unless I zoom in. Very annoying. Any way to change this?
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I have not received my HD yet but have used many versions of Opera 9.5. Some versions can do this, and some can't but you can check.
Type Opera:config into the address, then under adaptive zoom, see if you can find an entry called "Minimum overview zoom". Like I said, some version of opera 9.5 has this, and some don't. If it is there, then you're lucky. Just change it to 85%. You should be able to click and activate the links without zooming in now. (please exit and restart the browser first though).
Please let me know if that helps. I'm still waiting for my HD, which is supposed to arrive this morning.

Sweet, that seemed to work.
I see that it still chugs evrytime I visit my login page, which never changes. Shouldn't this be kept in the cache, so it pops right up?
Maybe I need to increase the browser cache from deafault?

scythe000 said:
Sweet, that seemed to work.
I see that it still chugs evrytime I visit my login page, which never changes. Shouldn't this be kept in the cache, so it pops right up?
Maybe I need to increase the browser cache from deafault?
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Not sure about the inabiilty to use the pop up. Just taking a guess here, so please don't nail me for doing so. I think it may be that your website uses Java technology which has only works on PC?? I have some bank account logins which also do not work. May be the same kinds of problem.
If it is very important to use that website on your phone and Opera cannot do it, you might want to try other browsers to see if you have better luck. One such browser is Netfront 3.5.
Hope this helps. Sorry that I can't be of more useful assistanct.

That's all helpful info, bro, I appreciate it!
It could even have something to do with flash, I get the same erro rwith the installed version of IE.

scythe000 said:
That's all helpful info, bro, I appreciate it!
It could even have something to do with flash, I get the same erro rwith the installed version of IE.
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Yes, could very well be the case.
If you're not dealing with very confidential information, there is also a possibilty of server based browser, which hopefully will be ble to handle some of those stuffs.

Note that disabling this "annoyance" also disables your ability to fire mouseover events, which are sometimes required to activate dropdown menus.

How do you mean?

eaglesteve said:
Type Opera:config into the address, then under adaptive zoom, see if you can find an entry called "Minimum overview zoom". Like I said, some version of opera 9.5 has this, and some don't. If it is there, then you're lucky. Just change it to 85%. You should be able to click and activate the links without zooming in now. (please exit and restart the browser first though).
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Excellent tweak, thanks. Makes it much more usable.
Question is why didn't it ship like this.....

arfster said:
Excellent tweak, thanks. Makes it much more usable.
Question is why didn't it ship like this.....
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I also wonder why they do not make it that way.
My guess is that most phone has very very small screen. At their screen size, it is impossible to read in zoom in mode, so they assume that you need to zoom in anyway before you click.
My present device is Athena (5 inch screen), so even at zoom out mode, we can read very clearly. It makes no sense to have to do the zooming in again before clicking on the link. HD's screen size is not quite that of Athena but is also big enough to read in zoom out mode. So, this tweak makes sense for us, although considered not necessary for the smaller screen phones.
Perhaps I would repost this in the tips and tricks thread.

eaglesteve said:
I have not received my HD yet but have used many versions of Opera 9.5. Some versions can do this, and some can't but you can check.
Type Opera:config into the address, then under adaptive zoom, see if you can find an entry called "Minimum overview zoom". Like I said, some version of opera 9.5 has this, and some don't. If it is there, then you're lucky. Just change it to 85%. You should be able to click and activate the links without zooming in now. (please exit and restart the browser first though).
Please let me know if that helps. I'm still waiting for my HD, which is supposed to arrive this morning.
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A-ha! is there a way to disable the annoying "Exit Opera?" dialog box when tapping exit?

Anybody tell me why my Opera only shows history for today/yesterday, while any older selections are empty?

This needs to go into the tips and tricks thread.
Our browsing experience has gone up one more level.
Many Thanks!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446272&highlight=tips+tricks

I have a question.
Now that we can click links without zooming is there a way to enlarge the fonts bigger than "large" in the settings menu?

eaglesteve said:
I have not received my HD yet but have used many versions of Opera 9.5. Some versions can do this, and some can't but you can check.
Type Opera:config into the address, then under adaptive zoom, see if you can find an entry called "Minimum overview zoom". Like I said, some version of opera 9.5 has this, and some don't. If it is there, then you're lucky. Just change it to 85%. You should be able to click and activate the links without zooming in now. (please exit and restart the browser first though).
Please let me know if that helps. I'm still waiting for my HD, which is supposed to arrive this morning.
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thanks mate it did work and what a difference it now makes when i increased minimum overview zoom

I would like to know whenever I go to us.gizmodo.com on my opera browser, why it won't show the comment sections when javascript has always been enabled on my THD? It always say something like loading, but it never does load anything. Also on some sites I completely missing all the navigations buttons so cannot move forward or backwards.

Opera 10 questions

Is there anyway to have Opera 10 use the Tilt 2 (Stock ATT ROM) use the Zoom bar to zoom?
Also, Opera 9.5 (Stock ROM) is always loaded in the background so it loads fast, I like this. Is there an easy way to make it always load Opera 10 in the background instead of stock 9.5?

There's no way in Opera 10 to zoom using the zoom bar, 10's not built to use it, and that functionality may never be available. I would sugggest checking out the zoom bar multi-function software listed in the "software worth having on tp2" thread in this forum. Maybe a later update of this software will be able to provide this functionality, but its worth having it the way it is now. As for keeping Opera 10 loaded in memory all the time, honestly I dont know. Gotta feeling it'd use up alot of ram all the time when ur not using it though. I guess the load time never really bothered me, and I use Sense 2.5 and a lotta other crap too, so I wouldnt be able to afford that much memory for something I wasnt using

maybe try putting the opera startup or whatever that thing is in the the startup folder in windows. maybe? idk if i'm not good with all the technical lingo.

enahs_ said:
Is there anyway to have Opera 10 use the Tilt 2 (Stock ATT ROM) use the Zoom bar to zoom?
Also, Opera 9.5 (Stock ROM) is always loaded in the background so it loads fast, I like this. Is there an easy way to make it always load Opera 10 in the background instead of stock 9.5?
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You might check out, read through, post in the "All Opera Mobile/Mini versions: Official thread"

i wish the zoom bar would work again. i hate the 2 level zoom. the back button no longer works either in 10 like it did in 10 beta. i think ill post in that thread to see if anyone can get it to.

Thanks McBrain. While that thread did not help with Zoom, it taught me how to enable auto rotate which is nice.

What's your favorite web browser?

I don't like the sluggishness and jerkiness of the stock browser. Is there a better third party browser that you particularly like? Is there anything that uses multitouch gestures?

eaglesteve said:
I don't like the sluggishness and jerkiness of the stock browser. Is there a better third party browser that you particularly like? Is there anything that uses multitouch gestures?
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I've settled on Skyfire. It's not perfect, but it's the best I've found.

MacGuy2006 said:
I've settled on Skyfire. It's not perfect, but it's the best I've found.
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Will try out everyone that you guys recommend.

Skyfire has at least one advantage over the ****ty native browser - it supports file download other than apk file, whereas the ****ty native browser can't even support file download. I can't believe how crippled it is, and wonder if that **** is from Google or Samsung.

With Astro filemanager the native (google!) Browser is able to do that too.

bayerischbeer said:
With Astro filemanager the native (google!) Browser is able to do that too.
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Thanks for this info bayerishbeer. Will get Astro filemanager right away.

How's opera mobile on the Galaxy S?

drleospaceman said:
How's opera mobile on the Galaxy S?
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Is Opera mobile available for Android? I can't find it in the Market Place.

theres no mobile, only mini, and its not that great, dolphin is pretty good tho

soraxd said:
theres no mobile, only mini, and its not that great, dolphin is pretty good tho
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Have used Opera mini on iPhone. It's really really lousy.
Will try out dolphin. Thanks!
edit: is it Dolphin Browser HD? or Dolphin Browser? What's the difference? I see.... HD is for Froyo.

The browser is bad? I'd always thought the Android browser was one of the best mobile browsers.
I never liked Skyfire on Windows Mobile - it's actually sending you screen grabs from rendering happening on their servers, so it was always laggy and slow to pan and zoom for me. Opera Mini is good if you don't have 3G data, since it's preprocessed and sent in a compressed form, but because the phone is rendering this custom preprocessed data and not the original HTML it doesn't support dynamic features.

Mithent said:
The browser is bad? I'd always thought the Android browser was one of the best mobile browsers.
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By iPhone standard, it is.
Mithent, are you using the stock browser? You've explored most of them I presume?

The stock browser works best for me. I've tried Dolphin, Opera and Skyfire and they all seem sluggish... Steel is good too.

Skyfire is sluggish, stock browser works great, no need to change it and it download all you want just learn how.

No problems with the stock browser here. It flies compared to Skyfire and works just as well as Dolphin.

Opera Mini 5.1 along with "Make it Default Browser"
Why?
- Opera is clearly the fastest in loading/displaying pages. Absolutely no contest
- 90% of the time I'm no under HSDPA coverage or Wifi, so moved megabytes matter
If only Opera Mini would get pinch zoom, then it would be perfect for me.
I don't need Flash or in-browser JS, which Opera Mini lacks.
For those occasions when in-browser JS is required, I use the built-in browser. Much better than Dolphin HD, which is very sluggish.

Try xScope. It works for me and somewhat better than Dophine.

I'll try all of them. So, the new ones that just cropped up are:
- Steel
- xScope
- Opera Mini (I hope it is not like the one on iPhone).
Thank you guys.

eaglesteve said:
I'll try all of them. So, the new ones that just cropped up are:
- Steel
- xScope
- Opera Mini (I hope it is not like the one on iPhone).
Thank you guys.
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I've taken a look at all these, and the one that I like the most is xScope. It is very similar to the Atomic Browser that I use on iPhone. The things I like about this browser are:
- I think it is faster than the stock browser and smoother too.
- One quick gesture to reveal the web address bar, and autotically hide it when page is loaded to give as much real estate as possible to the user
- One stroke gesture to move from tab to tab, exactly like what I was having in iPhone.
- Multitouch zooming, one finger zooming, as well as double tab to zoom in and out.
- Able to download more file types, although still not covering as comprehensively as what the Atomic browser for iPhone could.
- Able to open link in the background by long press. This usually is the way I consistently beat Opera Mini in terms of loading speed. In a forum like this, I open all the links that want to visit first, and buy the time I finish reading the first tab, the others are already fully loaded waiting for me to read. That means zero loading time effectlvely for all the links. Opera Mini can't do that.
- I wish there is a gesture (such as double finger swipe down) to close the current tab like what Atomic browser could do.
- Coupled with the higher resolution and bigger screen size, I feel that it is even more enjoyable surfing on Samsung Galaxy S than my 3GS.
I'm pretty happy with it for now, and would make it my main browser, until better one comes along.
One question: What is the difference between the free and paid version? What additionally benefits are there going to the paid version?

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Mithent, are you using the stock browser? You've explored most of them I presume?
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I've not had much personal experience with it - I still have a Windows Mobile phone at the moment, but will be getting a Galaxy S soon (will be as a carrier upgrade next month). The opinion I had of the stock browser was what I've seen of it when compared to the iPhone's Safari and Opera Mobile on WM (IE isn't worth thinking about), so was just a little surprised and wondered if it wasn't so great in real-life use. I didn't know you had to go through hoops to download things with it.
I'm afraid I'm not familiar with other options for Android, but I've tried Opera Mini and Skyfire on Windows Mobile. Given the nature of those applications, I doubt they're very different on Android.