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I ran a bunch of speed tests all within 2 minutes of each other it seems that PIE is slightly to substantially faster in every case. I tried it on Cingular's UMTS network and via activesync (Verizon).
Anyone else notice this?
Thanks for any input.
I second this. And Opera time-by-time hangs for a while on a - typically graphics-heavy - page that IE would load continuously.
To me Opera Mobile is currently a bugfest but has lot of extra stuff IE lacks.
Yeah, they do. That's the problem.
But I was really surprised by the speed difference. Glad I wasn't imagining things.
You should give PIE Plus a look, tabbed browsing and a few other very handy enhancements.
How is it with memory? I tried it a few years ago and found it a memory hog.
Bacco said:
How is it with memory? I tried it a few years ago and found it a memory hog.
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Pretty OK.
Bacco said:
Yeah, they do. That's the problem.
But I was really surprised by the speed difference. Glad I wasn't imagining things.
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Yup, the latest WM5 AKU2+-based IEM versions are indeed very fast, as opposed to pre-WM5 versions, also according to my speed tests. (See my articles for more info if interested.)
I find that often PIE will hang on 'Locating..' and then eventually start loading the page, while Opera loads immediately. I have tried different DNS settings as I thought that might be the issue, but if Opera doesn't have any trouble then it can't be that.
Currently a Opera user for that reason
http://www.access-company.com/products/netfrontmobile/browser/35_wm_tp.html
been trying it out for a few minutes on x51v -- it's pretty darn fast! It loads up Engadget in its entirety in around 10 seconds and is fully surfable after that.
I've goten it too and set it to my default browser. I defineatly like it but it is a memory hog. The only problem about this is if I leave it open in the background it errors saying not enough free memory.
Other than that it loads up in about 3 seconds on my titan andloads most big sites in about 10-15 seconds.
One issue is that sometimes while scrolling it seems the page has to refresh and keep up.
i am really liking this tech preview. i installed it last night and it's really zippy, although one time i got an error saying that it did not support javascript (even though it does elsewhere).
other than that one instance, everything works perfectly, and it renders web pages really quickly with the "Full Browsing" mode. (don't bother with Rapid-Render, it's actually slower than "Full Browsing"). also, for anyone that's used 3.4 tech preview, this 3.5 beta has working visual bookmarks, meaning it makes the thumbnail based on the part of the page you're viewing. it's great
My "Browser View" settings are (in order):
Full Browsing
Normal
75%
640x640
Medium
and with those settings, it is just flying.
A couple questions:
1) Does anyone know how to get the "External Tools" to work? I added .flv to work with TCPMP, and i went to YtPocket.com to test it out, but nothing happen. ytpocket sends flv format to TCPMP, so I don't know what happened. any ideas?
2) What is the difference between "Full Browsing" mode and "Simple Browsing" mode? they both render the pages as we would see on the desktop, and i can't see much speed difference.
this blows skyfire out of the water. i keep getting the memory error.
I tested netfront 3.5 for a few hours. It seems to me that it is faster than opera mini. However, I am waiting for opera mobile 9.5. I heard it will a lot better than skyfire and netfront 3.5
They finally come up with an update after all these years! (alright, well months...) and obviously, it still doesn't do it.
sounds like a lot of WM browsers around here. PIEPlus has been stuck at 2.2 for as long as I've been using WM, but I'm waiting to see what Opera's next attempt will be like.
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this blows skyfire out of the water. i keep getting the memory error.
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You keep getting the memory error with which program? And could you give us more of an in-depth comparison since you've tried both?
For me it seem to take forever to download a website.
Like cnn.com take a good 3-6 minutes to download when using IE take less a minute.
But once downloaded it scroll the page very fast but I do notice if I use my finger to scroll the page around it keep opening up my battery status setting apps.
I was no where near the battery icon which does that when you touch it.
Bill
its decent, it doesnt support youtube or any other video site... in addition to that, there isnt a dedicated back button lol, which is crucial. ill wait for opera... itll own all the other web browsers, bar none.
Hehe
i wil keep ma fingers crossed and jus wait for the new Opera 9
well...skyfire feel too unpolished. even though its fast...its just not ready yet. there is no mobile few. im a fan of mobile few...meaning...i like the browerser to org everything in on coloumn so there is no need for scrolling to the right or left. how ever.....netfront does a good job of the zooming out and zooming in. so i can live with that. its also faster than skyfire. but i still find myself needed to launch up opera mini....for my myspace and facebook needs...as well as general browsing like gizmodo.com and engadget....opermini offers the best experence. but netfront really isn't bad. im looking foward to trying the new opera...as i didnt really care for 8.5 or 8.6 what ever it is.
Guys, Some questions.
I have never had the need to install 3rd party web browser.. due to the fact that I think the more apps you install, the slower your device will be... so, I always keep my apps to minimum...
Now, is skyfire/opera much faster than PIE? (how much faster?)
What makes you guys think that it is necessary to install 3rd party apps?
What makes you guys "hate" the default PIE?
joseph.sapri said:
Guys, Some questions.
I have never had the need to install 3rd party web browser.. due to the fact that I think the more apps you install, the slower your device will be... so, I always keep my apps to minimum...
Now, is skyfire/opera much faster than PIE? (how much faster?)
What makes you guys think that it is necessary to install 3rd party apps?
What makes you guys "hate" the default PIE?
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even though pocket ie has gotton better...it just isnt up to snuff. you should really try opera mini...you're in for a treat.
um...the more you install on your phone doesnt really make it slower. but it is good practice to keep your 3rd party app to a minimum....to the device atlease. i install everything to the storage card.
TechBill said:
For me it seem to take forever to download a website.
Like cnn.com take a good 3-6 minutes to download when using IE take less a minute.
But once downloaded it scroll the page very fast but I do notice if I use my finger to scroll the page around it keep opening up my battery status setting apps.
I was no where near the battery icon which does that when you touch it.
Bill
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It takes me a good 3-6 minutes to load up CNN as well, in fact most sites PIE opens up faster. :/
I just timed cnn.com opening and it only took 44 secs on AT&T 3G connection. In fact, Im replying while on Net Front right now. So far Im really liking this browser, besides the fact that it burns through my battery with incredible speed.
I've been playing with this browser a lot over the weekend, and so I'm here to post sort of an explanation of it.
1) MEMORY HOG, wow that is my biggest issue. In Task Managers, it's only using up about 1.4 mb of RAM, but seriously, if i just open the browser (not even opening a webpage), then go to PointUI, every single animation is slowed down. That's just an example, but everywhere else, the device is slowed. Well, except for the browser itself.
2)I figured out the little differences between the Browser View Settings.
Browsing Mode
Full Browsing: Desktop Mode. As you see the site on your Desktop. My favorite by far.
Text Browsing: All Text. Pretty Straightforward.
Simple Browsing: Basically all text, except for some small images. For example, loading up the "Development and Hacking" here on Xda loads as all text, no formatting, but shows the little thread ratings stars, the little paperclip, the little thumbtack, etc.
Rapid-Render: Pretty annoying, from my tests anyway. Loads up the page as all text, then goes back and loads all the formatting so it ends up as a Desktop View. Seems good in theory (get the speed benefit of "Text Browsing", and you still have the option to wait for the full formatting of "Full Browsing"). HOWEVER, your reading is always interrupted because the screen refreshes itself and goes blank when it goes from Text to Full. I tested, and it takes the same amount of time to get to full formatting of a webpage whether you use Rapid-Render or Full Browsing, so I prefer to avoid that screen refresh.
Display Mode
Normal: Normal. Duh.
Just-Fit: Shoves everything into one screen, messing up all formatting.
Smart-Fit: Resizes web page tables and stuff to fit on the screen. Better than Just-Fit.
Zoom - It's obvious. Kinda annoying how NetFront reloads the page when you change zoom levels, though. I leave mine at 75%.
Virtual Canvas - Changes the screen size. Think of it like the size of your desktop monitor. Best setting for me is 640x640, because anything bigger shows tons of blank spaces on web pages (since NetFront auto resizes text to fit in one screen), and the "Disable" option doesn't allow you to double-tap the screen (or double click the Action Button) for the zoomed out screen.
Text Size - Obvious. I leave mine on Medium. Along with the 75% zoom, I am able to read text comfortably, as well as maximizing the screen area.
Whew.
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I've been playing with this browser a lot over the weekend, and so I'm here to post sort of an explanation of it.
1) MEMORY HOG, wow that is my biggest issue. In Task Managers, it's only using up about 1.4 mb of RAM, but seriously, if i just open the browser (not even opening a webpage), then go to PointUI, every single animation is slowed down. That's just an example, but everywhere else, the device is slowed. Well, except for the browser itself.
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That is because it is a CPU hog. This is the best browser on memory I have used so far, especially on Simple Browsing mode. I have to close the browser when I am finished using it because it uses about 80% cpu when minimized. But it is so fast I don't mind.
I think everything else you have said is spot on.
Netfront 3.4 didn't use up any noticable CPU when in the background, 3.5 uses up a huge amount, since it's obviously something they changed/added, hopefully they fix it before release
i already posted this in another thread about netfront, but this thread seems to actually have people viewing it
after putting this browser through multiple speed tests, it continuously produced slow results...especially in comparison with IE
when connected to wifi, i tested multiple times, and heres about the averages i would get with the browsers
IE-1.7 mbps
Opera-800 kbps
Picsel-1.0 mbps
NetFront- 300 kbps
the only reason i wanted to speed test was because netfront felt slow, and according to those tests, it was alot slower than my other browsers...
i LOVE the browser, the wordwrapping to fit on screen works great, i like the scrolling, tabbed browsing, and everything.....featurewise, its better than opera, speedwise its terrible...
EDIT** i have been speed testing at www.mobilespeedtest.com
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i already posted this in another thread about netfront, but this thread seems to actually have people viewing it
after putting this browser through multiple speed tests, it continuously produced slow results...especially in comparison with IE
when connected to wifi, i tested multiple times, and heres about the averages i would get with the browsers
IE-1.7 mbps
Opera-800 kbps
Picsel-1.0 mbps
NetFront- 300 kbps
the only reason i wanted to speed test was because netfront felt slow, and according to those tests, it was alot slower than my other browsers...
i LOVE the browser, the wordwrapping to fit on screen works great, i like the scrolling, tabbed browsing, and everything.....featurewise, its better than opera, speedwise its terrible...
EDIT** i have been speed testing at www.mobilespeedtest.com
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Thanks for this... so basically, PIE is still the best in performance?
I post this here and not in the General section, because I'm interested specifically about best configuration for the X1.
What is your configuration in opera:config? Any secrets or tips? How to achieve best performance? Fast, responsive and lag free Opera? How to fix the annoying crashes? Etc, etc, etc.
Anything that comes to mind peeps. Post it for the win!
Just curious - is there a reason you're using 9.5 versus 9.7?
Anyways, I changed the adaptive zoom to 480 to make verticle reading much nicer.
Under performance, I increased "the Max Connections Server" to 12-16, "Max Connections Total" to 32, and disabled "Reduce Max Persistent HTTP Connections"
Turning on "Automatic memory cache" under user prefs made Opera non responsive and crash happy.
Other than that - it runs well; hasn't crashed on me yet.
Yeah I actually use Opera 9.7 which is much superior,
besides it has a screwed upload.
In 9.7 increased possible tabs open to 5,
plus changed:
Go to "User prefs"
3) Uncheck "UAProf URL enabled" to disable mobile view
user agent
spoof user agent "2" for smalller font....
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Just curious - is there a reason you're using 9.5 versus 9.7?
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Because 9.7 sucks at the moment IMHO. It is not user friendly at all. I am not going to be a beta tester lol.
Thanks for the tips .
P.S. MORE TIPS NEEDED!!!!!!!!!
TofuJoe said:
Just curious - is there a reason you're using 9.5 versus 9.7?
Anyways, I changed the adaptive zoom to 480 to make verticle reading much nicer.
Under performance, I increased "the Max Connections Server" to 12-16, "Max Connections Total" to 32, and disabled "Reduce Max Persistent HTTP Connections"
Turning on "Automatic memory cache" under user prefs made Opera non responsive and crash happy.
Other than that - it runs well; hasn't crashed on me yet.
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Sorry to go off topic, but to you guys using 9.7b, what bugs are introduced, and what features do we lose that we had before? I'm guessing volume button zooming, and smooth touchpad scrolling are two features that get lost...unless you hack them back in.
I've always had issues when changing from the oem Opera version on past HTC devices, so that's why I'm asking, and that's why I haven't bothered to upgrade, and maybe whey orelsei hasn't either.
Back on topic, how do you get the scrolling rate to be go further/faster in Opera with each finger flick?
The biggest difference was the hardware button scrolling, but i found the overall hw acellerated scrolling more preferable. Just a personal preference.
The only bug I've noticed repeatedly is sometimes when clicking that star button for your favorites, it opens up with a scroll bar on the right. When that happens, I am unable to scroll down the list via finger - dpad only. This seems to happen when Opera is still loading a page and I suddenly click the menu tab and click favorites. (or so I've noticed)
Odd bug, if I use the HW keyboard to type in something at the address or search bars, pressing the enter key just dismisses the bar and opera switches back to full screen reading. I need to actually press the graphical button on the screen to get Opera to open the address/search I typed in. I'm not sure if that's how it's supposed to work though.
doministry's tips are cool though - I hate it when some websites insist they show you the mobile version regardless of your prefereces.
Off topic, but Opera Mini 5 is MUCH fasterif you use that turbo mode setting. It's on average +2x faster on my X1 than Opera 97b1 with Turbo mode on. I with 97b was that fast... can't have everything I guess.
So to you guys using OperaMobile 9.7:
how to set the browser to store downloads to Card?
Lately everything is stored to internal memory, even when I choose a memory card!
@orelsi
Well, you must admit with 9.5 we were also beta testers!
As for 9.5 vs 9.7, I appreciate much faster menus and less crashes
(however the flash support is still a pain...)
By using UserScript you can hide the adverts in 9.7 (and I'm guessing 9.5)
http://blog.artesea.co.uk/2009/08/ad-free-mobile-browsing.html
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So to you guys using OperaMobile 9.7:
how to set the browser to store downloads to Card?
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When you are talking about downloads .... I was trying to setup default download folder to storage card\downloads, but with no success. Every time I have to change from internal memory to storage card, then change folder for downloads. It makes me crazy Any idea how to make it automatically choose specified folder for all downloads?
Great tips and info guys! That's exactly what I meant for this thread. I guess it should be about all Opera version not 9.5 only. The more, the better .
@ doministry
I mean that 9.7 is still in beta, while 9.5 is a finished product. I have no doubt that I will change to 9.7 when the final product arrives.
@ sonus
I have noticed that the stock Opera build is the most stable one as well.
MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!
doministry said:
Yeah I actually use Opera 9.7 which is much superior,
besides it has a screwed upload.
In 9.7 increased possible tabs open to 5,
plus changed:
Go to "User prefs"
3) Uncheck "UAProf URL enabled" to disable mobile view
user agent
spoof user agent "2" for smalller font....
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Can i use my hw-keyboard everywhere with 9.7?
Can you scroll with the optical button?
btw, you can set the max number of tabs with the :config (mentioned in the first post) easily (in every version).
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Yeah I actually use Opera 9.7 which is much superior,
besides it has a screwed upload.
In 9.7 increased possible tabs open to 5,
plus changed:
Go to "User prefs"
3) Uncheck "UAProf URL enabled" to disable mobile view
user agent
spoof user agent "2" for smalller font....
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How did you get 5 tabs available on Opera 9.7? I still can only open 3.
Looks like I found it.
Opera:Config > User Pref > Maximum Allowed Tabs > 10
I can open 10 tabs now! Not that I will need it though, but cool nonetheless.
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How did you get 5 tabs available on Opera 9.7? I still can only open 3.
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In any and every version of Opera (even the desktop version) type Opera:config in the address bar, and you'll get the option to edit just about anything you could ever desire, including the max tab number. Do a search for tabs in the Quick Find that comes up, and you'll see what you can edit as far as tabs go. FYI, a restart of Opera might be required to have changes go into effect (I don't recall, since its been a while since I toyed with the config setting).
Anyone tried Opera 9.7 build 35432 or 35443?
AndiCP said:
Can i use my hw-keyboard everywhere with 9.7?
Can you scroll with the optical button?
btw, you can set the max number of tabs with the :config (mentioned in the first post) easily (in every version).
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You can use hw-keyboard everywhere.
Scrolling - I don't know, never tried it really,
but as I remember it scrolls through links...
Edit:
Yep, the srolling goes through links..
@orelsi
LOL, Opera Mobile 9.5 was never a finished product!
It was also always beta!
doministry said:
You can use hw-keyboard everywhere.
Scrolling - I don't know, never tried it really,
but as I remember it scrolls through links...
Edit:
Yep, the srolling goes through links..
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Thanks doministry,
so i'll give it another shot.
Although I like the "normal" scrolling with the O-Button.
Is the D-Pad doing a "normal" scroll then or is it jumping from link to link as well?
I'm asking because I customized my 9.5 build a lot and now (sort of) migrating to 9.7 is just a pure hassle if it doesn't work the way I like it in the end.
AndiCP said:
Thanks doministry,
so i'll give it another shot.
Although I like the "normal" scrolling with the O-Button.
Is the D-Pad doing a "normal" scroll then or is it jumping from link to link as well?
I'm asking because I customized my 9.5 build a lot and now (sort of) migrating to 9.7 is just a pure hassle if it doesn't work the way I like it in the end.
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No there's no "normal" scroll here.
I use 9.7 'cos it's waaaay faster in UI/menus.
And less crashing than 9.5.
The ony single reason why I still use 9.5 sometimes
is the upload photos on my blog.....
Honestly can't wait to see a final
with hopefuly Flash 10.1 there.
victor4o said:
Anyone tried Opera 9.7 build 35432 or 35443?
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I did, I cooked them in my rom but both are giving problems with the hardware keyboard.
doministry said:
No there's no "normal" scroll here.
I use 9.7 'cos it's waaaay faster in UI/menus.
And less crashing than 9.5.
The ony single reason why I still use 9.5 sometimes
is the upload photos on my blog.....
Honestly can't wait to see a final
with hopefuly Flash 10.1 there.
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My 9.5 (16702) stopped crashing after I ran the "fixOperaFlash.exe".
And can display all webpages PIE can, but much faster.
Only thing is hw-keyborad is not working in forms (in opera ui it does, dunno why).
But no "normal" and therefor fast scrolling (9.7) s*cks as well IMHO.
I'm not using the opera UI/menus very often.
Dear All,
I am from Singapore abt to recontract with M1 for LEgend (trading in my Nokia E75), i was wondering is there multitouch for legend internet browser and picture viewer?
As my concern is that certain countries has multi-touch disabled.
Anyyone help?
Can't confirm, but I find it highly unlikely HTC would disable multi-touch based on region.
Besides, check out HTC's South East Asia site. The Legend specs page lists pinch-to-zoom as a capability.
hi David, I'm from Malaysia and my unit have multitouch for both browser and picture viewer so I don't think that will differ alot from the Singapore unit.
r47z said:
hi David, I'm from Malaysia and my unit have multitouch for both browser and picture viewer so I don't think that will differ alot from the Singapore unit.
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Thanks bro ok then confirm can buy le, anyway hows the legend internet browser compared to iphone's?
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Can't confirm, but I find it highly unlikely HTC would disable multi-touch based on region.
Besides, check out HTC's South East Asia site. The Legend specs page lists pinch-to-zoom as a capability.
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pinch to zoom is their new Leap feature. but i like that feature better than to swipe and swipe hehe
hong kong's has multitouch
i like Android's browser over iphone's but my favourite is still the N900's.
yellowchilli said:
hong kong's has multitouch
i like Android's browser over iphone's but my favourite is still the N900's.
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Hi yellowchilli,
wat would be the diff between the Legend browser and the iphone browser as i surf alone this is impt criteria.
thanks
davidwong said:
Hi yellowchilli,
wat would be the diff between the Legend browser and the iphone browser as i surf alone this is impt criteria.
thanks
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hi david
first of all, here's what i've been using: the ipod touch 2g (532mhz) for almost a year now; and the Legend (600mhz) for a little under a month.
differences I've noticed so far:
mobile safari:
+UI feels sublime
+handles portrait<->landscape modes better
+more intuitive
-page reflow takes time
-strange crashes e.g. even on a regular google search page
-NO FLASH
Android browser:
+hasnt yet crashed once
+page seemingly never reflows
+text reflow is pretty amazing
+Flash (lite??)
+faster browsing
-limited to only only 3 windows (hard coded or dependent on RAM?)
-UI not quite as smooth
seems to me its a form vs function kinda thing here..
davidwong said:
Hi yellowchilli,
wat would be the diff between the Legend browser and the iphone browser as i surf alone this is impt criteria.
thanks
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Just to add to yellowchilli's comments...
I think the Android browser is clearly superior to Mobile Safari. Here's why:
1. Full screen browsing. Safari always displays the top and bottom bars which wastes a bunch of space, especially in landscape.
2. Text-reflow is an essential feature, not just a gimmick. You know longer have to scroll horizontally as well as vertically to read zoomed-in text. Once you've experienced this, you will never go back to Mobile Safari.
3. You never (ever!) see the checkerboard pattern on the Legend (or Desire) if you flick scroll really fast on a site. Even on the iPhone3GS, you will see the checkerboard pattern as the screen tries to refresh the content.
4. Tabs start loading in the background as soon as you instruct it to. This saves a lot of time. In Mobile Safari, only the currently active tab gets loaded. The other tabs starts loading after you switch to them. Btw, the maximum number of tabs in Android is actually 4.
5. Since Android has a file system, you can download files from the browser. Other than photos, this is impossible on Mobile Safari.
davidwong said:
Dear All,
I am from Singapore abt to recontract with M1 for LEgend (trading in my Nokia E75), i was wondering is there multitouch for legend internet browser and picture viewer?
As my concern is that certain countries has multi-touch disabled.
Anyyone help?
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Hi david,
Just got the legend not too long, and I'm from Singapore. Browser and picture gallery supports pinch-to-zoom. Very well, i must add. Really love the function. But note, not in google maps though.
yellowchilli said:
hi david
first of all, here's what i've been using: the ipod touch 2g (532mhz) for almost a year now; and the Legend (600mhz) for a little under a month.
differences I've noticed so far:
mobile safari:
+UI feels sublime
+handles portrait<->landscape modes better
+more intuitive
-page reflow takes time
-strange crashes e.g. even on a regular google search page
-NO FLASH
Android browser:
+hasnt yet crashed once
+page seemingly never reflows
+text reflow is pretty amazing
+Flash (lite??)
+faster browsing
-limited to only only 3 windows (hard coded or dependent on RAM?)
-UI not quite as smooth
seems to me its a form vs function kinda thing here..
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THanks Bro yellowchilli,
good to hear as this was one of my stumbling block in deciding, ok i will be getting the legend this weekend yea!!
ohyeahar said:
Just to add to yellowchilli's comments...
I think the Android browser is clearly superior to Mobile Safari. Here's why:
1. Full screen browsing. Safari always displays the top and bottom bars which wastes a bunch of space, especially in landscape.
2. Text-reflow is an essential feature, not just a gimmick. You know longer have to scroll horizontally as well as vertically to read zoomed-in text. Once you've experienced this, you will never go back to Mobile Safari.
3. You never (ever!) see the checkerboard pattern on the Legend (or Desire) if you flick scroll really fast on a site. Even on the iPhone3GS, you will see the checkerboard pattern as the screen tries to refresh the content.
4. Tabs start loading in the background as soon as you instruct it to. This saves a lot of time. In Mobile Safari, only the currently active tab gets loaded. The other tabs starts loading after you switch to them. Btw, the maximum number of tabs in Android is actually 4.
5. Since Android has a file system, you can download files from the browser. Other than photos, this is impossible on Mobile Safari.
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Dear Ohyeahar,
ya i love the reflow of my opera in my diamond, just that the screen too small.
thanks for the in depth addition
myglowinghalo said:
Hi david,
Just got the legend not too long, and I'm from Singapore. Browser and picture gallery supports pinch-to-zoom. Very well, i must add. Really love the function. But note, not in google maps though.
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hehe... i seldom use googles maps as i am using a dedicated car gps as sometimes the connection is too slow for the phone to load the map as i am driving and its don have the turn by turn voice guidance (though the beta version i heard now has it)
if u really need multi touch in the maps. download this mod, works in legend with multitouch.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=630887
I don't like the sluggishness and jerkiness of the stock browser. Is there a better third party browser that you particularly like? Is there anything that uses multitouch gestures?
eaglesteve said:
I don't like the sluggishness and jerkiness of the stock browser. Is there a better third party browser that you particularly like? Is there anything that uses multitouch gestures?
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I've settled on Skyfire. It's not perfect, but it's the best I've found.
MacGuy2006 said:
I've settled on Skyfire. It's not perfect, but it's the best I've found.
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Will try out everyone that you guys recommend.
Skyfire has at least one advantage over the ****ty native browser - it supports file download other than apk file, whereas the ****ty native browser can't even support file download. I can't believe how crippled it is, and wonder if that **** is from Google or Samsung.
With Astro filemanager the native (google!) Browser is able to do that too.
bayerischbeer said:
With Astro filemanager the native (google!) Browser is able to do that too.
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Thanks for this info bayerishbeer. Will get Astro filemanager right away.
How's opera mobile on the Galaxy S?
drleospaceman said:
How's opera mobile on the Galaxy S?
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Is Opera mobile available for Android? I can't find it in the Market Place.
theres no mobile, only mini, and its not that great, dolphin is pretty good tho
soraxd said:
theres no mobile, only mini, and its not that great, dolphin is pretty good tho
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Have used Opera mini on iPhone. It's really really lousy.
Will try out dolphin. Thanks!
edit: is it Dolphin Browser HD? or Dolphin Browser? What's the difference? I see.... HD is for Froyo.
The browser is bad? I'd always thought the Android browser was one of the best mobile browsers.
I never liked Skyfire on Windows Mobile - it's actually sending you screen grabs from rendering happening on their servers, so it was always laggy and slow to pan and zoom for me. Opera Mini is good if you don't have 3G data, since it's preprocessed and sent in a compressed form, but because the phone is rendering this custom preprocessed data and not the original HTML it doesn't support dynamic features.
Mithent said:
The browser is bad? I'd always thought the Android browser was one of the best mobile browsers.
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By iPhone standard, it is.
Mithent, are you using the stock browser? You've explored most of them I presume?
The stock browser works best for me. I've tried Dolphin, Opera and Skyfire and they all seem sluggish... Steel is good too.
Skyfire is sluggish, stock browser works great, no need to change it and it download all you want just learn how.
No problems with the stock browser here. It flies compared to Skyfire and works just as well as Dolphin.
Opera Mini 5.1 along with "Make it Default Browser"
Why?
- Opera is clearly the fastest in loading/displaying pages. Absolutely no contest
- 90% of the time I'm no under HSDPA coverage or Wifi, so moved megabytes matter
If only Opera Mini would get pinch zoom, then it would be perfect for me.
I don't need Flash or in-browser JS, which Opera Mini lacks.
For those occasions when in-browser JS is required, I use the built-in browser. Much better than Dolphin HD, which is very sluggish.
Try xScope. It works for me and somewhat better than Dophine.
I'll try all of them. So, the new ones that just cropped up are:
- Steel
- xScope
- Opera Mini (I hope it is not like the one on iPhone).
Thank you guys.
eaglesteve said:
I'll try all of them. So, the new ones that just cropped up are:
- Steel
- xScope
- Opera Mini (I hope it is not like the one on iPhone).
Thank you guys.
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I've taken a look at all these, and the one that I like the most is xScope. It is very similar to the Atomic Browser that I use on iPhone. The things I like about this browser are:
- I think it is faster than the stock browser and smoother too.
- One quick gesture to reveal the web address bar, and autotically hide it when page is loaded to give as much real estate as possible to the user
- One stroke gesture to move from tab to tab, exactly like what I was having in iPhone.
- Multitouch zooming, one finger zooming, as well as double tab to zoom in and out.
- Able to download more file types, although still not covering as comprehensively as what the Atomic browser for iPhone could.
- Able to open link in the background by long press. This usually is the way I consistently beat Opera Mini in terms of loading speed. In a forum like this, I open all the links that want to visit first, and buy the time I finish reading the first tab, the others are already fully loaded waiting for me to read. That means zero loading time effectlvely for all the links. Opera Mini can't do that.
- I wish there is a gesture (such as double finger swipe down) to close the current tab like what Atomic browser could do.
- Coupled with the higher resolution and bigger screen size, I feel that it is even more enjoyable surfing on Samsung Galaxy S than my 3GS.
I'm pretty happy with it for now, and would make it my main browser, until better one comes along.
One question: What is the difference between the free and paid version? What additionally benefits are there going to the paid version?
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Mithent, are you using the stock browser? You've explored most of them I presume?
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I've not had much personal experience with it - I still have a Windows Mobile phone at the moment, but will be getting a Galaxy S soon (will be as a carrier upgrade next month). The opinion I had of the stock browser was what I've seen of it when compared to the iPhone's Safari and Opera Mobile on WM (IE isn't worth thinking about), so was just a little surprised and wondered if it wasn't so great in real-life use. I didn't know you had to go through hoops to download things with it.
I'm afraid I'm not familiar with other options for Android, but I've tried Opera Mini and Skyfire on Windows Mobile. Given the nature of those applications, I doubt they're very different on Android.