Hi Everyone,
I just wanted to let you see how much I have learned. I sent my phone to WindowsHD.com and had them mod the phone for me. I received it back and started tweaking it myself. I want you to see what can be done after WindowsHD.com created an amazing phone that can be tweaked to the sky. I customized the entire theme that you will see. Hope you like it!! It is called the Chanel Ultimate Theme. Thanks XDA-Developers and PPCGeeks along with the crew at WindowsHD.com for starting me in the right direction.
P.S. This is not the Dusk Theme. It uses parts of it but the theme was custom made by me.
Jen
Sprint - HTC Touch Pro 2
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not at all amazing
Let me get this straight..... You sent in your phone so someone could transfer some theme files to it? Do you own a USB cable?
Why would I not just download any of the many themes that are already available on this site? You can customize them to achieve the same look with no cost and no wait while I send it in to a freakin' website. You = chump.
MOD EDIT - Removed advertising link
Re: Chanel Theme
Hi,
I sent the phone to WindowsHD.com because I did not know how to unlock it. The phone was locked along with the sim card. I tried a few things that I found online and messed-up the phone..so off it went. WindowsHD.com fixed my phone, unlocked it, flashed it and customized it and sent it back to me unlocked. I then started to experiment as everyone does on XDA with different mods. I used different parts from different theme packages and put together what I call "The Ultimate Chanel Theme". I have not seen one custom theme on any BB's that even come close to mine. My theme is clean, classy and it shines. It is the "best" $24.95 I have ever spent. The same phone at T-Mobile unlocked is selling for almost $600 and they are trying to call it the HTC HD. My phone blows away the T-Mobile HTC HD and it only cost me $24.95. I received the phone for free from Sprint. Also, for XDA-Developers along with the people at PPCGeeks, I cannot thank the teams enough for the great BB's they host for everyone that likes to learn how to mod a phone, like myself. So thank you for your positive remarks. I love reading positive feedback. Jen
Yeah, this is just someone trying to get you to look into WindowsHD. They're probably a scam website that'll take your phone and your money and you'll never hear from them again.
Just sayin, you boys need to avoid this one.
Re: WindowsHD.com
Hi,
I would love to see what your phone theme looks like. You have many negative comments with only 74 posts in a year. If you think you know it all, put up or shut up! XDA-Developers and PPCGeeks are BB's for people to learn how to mod phones. I messed-up when I tried to flash my phone. WindowsHD.com fixed my phone for me. When people drop-off computers at places like Best Buy to be fixed, do you also say the same thing about the guys who work there? Watch out, they may steal your data? You need to take a chill pill and use these BB's as a learning tool instead of making fun of someone who just started out learning about all this mobile phone stuff. If you cannot post anything positive, don't post at all. WindowsHD.com did not steal my phone! They are a reputable website. Jen
JensHTC said:
The same phone at T-Mobile unlocked is selling for almost $600 and they are trying to call it the HTC HD.
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You are either referring to the HD2 or the Touch Pro 2 (this is a TP2 board). Either way, neither phone costs $600 even you bought it unsubsidized (no contract). Please do your research before spouting such claims.
HD2 MSRP $449.99 and TP2 MSRP $399.99
Strike one.
JensHTC said:
My phone blows away the T-Mobile HTC HD and it only cost me $24.95.
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And...
JensHTC said:
I messed-up when I tried to flash my phone. WindowsHD.com fixed my phone for me.
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The HD2 has 512MB of RAM and a Qualcomm Snapdragon 1GHz processor. The Touch Pro 2 has 256MB of RAM and a 528MHz Qualcomm processor. Spec-wise, the HD2 blows the TP2 out of the water. The capacitive screen on the HD2 is a pleasure to use, although I do prefer the speed of the TP2's physical keyboard.
Secondly, the phone was already capable of doing what your phone is doing now. WindowsHD.com did nothing that you could not do on your own. If you have the RUU for Sprint's Touch Pro 2, it will bring your phone back to it's original factory settings and it can be found online. All you need is ActiveSync and the RUU, both of which are free.
Strike two.
JensHTC said:
When people drop-off computers at places like Best Buy to be fixed, do you also say the same thing about the guys who work there? Watch out, they may steal your data?
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News flash! They do steal your data.
Consumerist catches Geek Squad stealing porn from customer's computer
STRIKE THREE! YOU'RE OUTTA HERE!
freakingwilly said:
You are either referring to the HD2 or the Touch Pro 2 (this is a TP2 board). Either way, neither phone costs $600 even you bought it unsubsidized (no contract). Please do your research before spouting such claims.
HD2 MSRP $449.99 and TP2 MSRP $399.99
Strike one.
And...The HD2 has 512MB of RAM and a Qualcomm Snapdragon 1GHz processor. The Touch Pro 2 has 256MB of RAM and a 528MHz Qualcomm processor. Spec-wise, the HD2 blows the TP2 out of the water. The capacitive screen on the HD2 is a pleasure to use, although I do prefer the speed of the TP2's physical keyboard.
Secondly, the phone was already capable of doing what your phone is doing now. WindowsHD.com did nothing that you could not do on your own. If you have the RUU for Sprint's Touch Pro 2, it will bring your phone back to it's original factory settings and it can be found online. All you need is ActiveSync and the RUU, both of which are free.
Strike two.
News flash! They do steal your data.
Consumerist catches Geek Squad stealing porn from customer's computer
STRIKE THREE! YOU'RE OUTTA HERE!
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Well said Freakingwilly.
Re: Touch Pro 2 - Overclocked to 1GHz
Hi,
Just to let you know, you are wrong. The price of an unlocked TP2 goes off between $300 and $600 online. Strike 1....Now, you think you know it all, 72 posts in one year, Mr. I know it all. You have nothing at all to contribute to this board accept for negative posts. Strike 2....As for the HD blowing away the HTC TP 2, think again, if you install the right apps and rom, you will get the same performance out of the HTC TP 2...Strike 3...You are stupid...
JensHTC said:
Hi,
Just to let you know, you are wrong. The price of an unlocked TP2 goes off between $300 and $600 online. Strike 1....Now, you think you know it all, 72 posts in one year, Mr. I know it all. You have nothing at all to contribute to this board accept for negative posts. Strike 2....As for the HD blowing away the HTC TP 2, think again, if you install the right apps and rom, you will get the same performance out of the HTC TP 2...Strike 3...You are stupid...
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Is there an age limit to post?........JensHTC, your home screen looks good but i`ve seen plenty here that looks like yours.Some even better.I`m not a "know it all",but i do alot of lurking around.You could have done everything yourself.You say you searched the forum but IMHO,i don`t think you did alot of it.Again,you home screen looks good.Just not all that special.
JensHTC said:
Hi,
Just to let you know, you are wrong. The price of an unlocked TP2 goes off between $300 and $600 online. Strike 1....Now, you think you know it all, 72 posts in one year, Mr. I know it all. You have nothing at all to contribute to this board accept for negative posts. Strike 2....As for the HD blowing away the HTC TP 2, think again, if you install the right apps and rom, you will get the same performance out of the HTC TP 2...Strike 3...You are stupid...
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I could very well be wrong but I dont think its possible to overclock the Touch Pro 2 to run at 1 gig... Someone else can chime in but I think it maxes out at 7oo and change. Also by running it at that speed you can damage your phone, again.. someone who knows about overclocking can chime in and comment if I'm wrong.
Sooo yeah, no the touch pro 2's performance will NEVER be as good as the HTC HD2, bigger screen, better specs. The only thing the Touch Pro 2 has going for it right now is the physical keyboard. Which I'm certain once someone has a phone with a full keyboard they would be hard pressed to go to one without one.
I wouldnt go saying this person was coming off as a "know it all at all" In fact they were mearly just stating facts. Everthing you paid this company to do you can do yourself. Although I do understand people who are too nervous to do stuff themselves wanting to send it away. You could have likely found a cell phone booth in your mall that would have unlocked your phone for you... or you can just get companies to unlock it via email (they give you the code etc etc)
You have to of known that by saying "Look what I got... and only for 24 dollars too" was likely going to get you flamed just a bit. There are thousands of people who do what they did to your phone on this forum doing it themselves so, you're bound to run into a few who think you got the short end of the stick.
What they were saying wasn't meant to be negative I dont think. You clearly took it as such because you feel you got a great deal for what they did to your phone. Others might feel they were ripped off because they were charged 24 dollars to have someone flash a rom to their phone and install a few other cabs. All of which we can do our selves. If you feel good about your purchase. Good for you and thank you for sharing your thoughts on the company.
Now, regarding your prices there. I'm going to have to disgree with you on that, sorry. When the Touch pro 2 was originally released yes, it was going for 600 dollars off contract..... Now, yeah not so much. Anyone who is going to buy a phone like this is going to do their research and they'll know they can get it for a few hundred dollars. Someone who pays the same "retail" price from when it was originally released is an idiot and I just feel bad for them
You also said an unlocked phone can go from $300-$600??? Don't you think that price range is a little ridiculous considering the phones would all be the SAME. Hey here's an unlocked phone for 300... No no by mine its the exact same but it's $600. Hmmmm which one are people going to choose.
Good luck with your phone. Like I said, I'm glad you like your device and enjoy learning more tweaks and hacks..
Keep coming back!
Ps: If your phone is overclocked I would do some serious reading about it to see if it's going to kill the phone. I know at bare minimum it lessons the life of the phone when you push it into the red.
JensHTC said:
Hi,
Just to let you know, you are wrong. The price of an unlocked TP2 goes off between $300 and $600 online. Strike 1....Now, you think you know it all, 72 posts in one year, Mr. I know it all. You have nothing at all to contribute to this board accept for negative posts. Strike 2....As for the HD blowing away the HTC TP 2, think again, if you install the right apps and rom, you will get the same performance out of the HTC TP 2...Strike 3...You are stupid...
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I think that with the same ROM, the HD2 will indeed outpace the TP2 - it has twice the processor, twice the ROM (storage memory) and twice the RAM (and RAM is the biggest issue with the TP2).
I'm pretty sure someone else advertised about that website before...they are most likely working for the company
My apologies if you're not...but like others said, all the graphics and fixes you have can be obtained for free and they are not even hard to work with. I'm glad you like your purchases but I would rather spend $25 on something more worth it
JensHTC said:
Just to let you know, you are wrong. The price of an unlocked TP2 goes off between $300 and $600 online.
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You really are quite the piece of work. You sit there and claim that the phone sells for $300 to $600 online when you show absolutely NO definitive proof. If you weren't so lazy, you would have clicked the links I provided earlier to see that the T-Mobile version of the phone (which you were referring to) sells OUT OF CONTRACT for less than $450.
Fail.
JensHTC said:
Now, you think you know it all, 72 posts in one year, Mr. I know it all. You have nothing at all to contribute to this board accept for negative posts. Strike 2
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I never said I know it all, so don't go putting words in other people's posts. Secondly, I've been a member of the forum for nearly 3 years, even if I only have 72 posts. I just lurk more than I post. Thirdly, you haven't even seen any of my posts so don't tell me that all I have to say is negative things. I refuse to allow good, honest members of this forum get scammed by people advertising a site that looks like it was designed by a 5th grader using DreamWeaver. Lastly, WindowsHD.com hides it's "Contact Us" link at the very bottom of the page and the only option you get is an e-mail link to [email protected]. I'm sorry, but I cannot trust a company where I cannot call and reach a LIVE HUMAN BEING.
Super fail.
JensHTC said:
As for the HD blowing away the HTC TP 2, think again, if you install the right apps and rom, you will get the same performance out of the HTC TP 2...Strike 3...You are stupid...
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Although it is true that some custom ROMs will make the phone more responsive and better at handling memory by removing bloatware, having more RAM and a faster processor will make a far greater difference than any custom ROM. Believe me, if the TP2 had the specs of the HD2 (minus the 4.3" screen, the TP2 is big enough already), the phone would sell like hot cakes! Honestly, what kind of phone would you rather have?
528MHz processor and 256MB of RAM
or
1GHz processor and 512MB of RAM
Oh yeah, name calling really helped you win this argument.
EDIT: Just for fun, I took a look at their products. Listen to this.
WindowsHD.com said:
Notice: All ROMs are free. You are paying for our time to unlock and customize your mobile phone. We do not charge for any software. You are paying a one time, very cheap service charge. Each ROM upgrade can take 6 to 8 hours after free software is installed. MS Office is included with all upgrades. We try and make each mobile phone upgrade unique so no other person has the same look.
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I've done ROM upgrades on my Wing (201MHz processor and 64MB of RAM) and it took all of 10 minutes to flash the ROM. The Wing had less than half of the processor and a FRACTION of the RAM that the TP2 has and I had the phone up and running in less than 1 hour. Also, MS Office comes with all Windows Mobile phones.
i'm not going to flame you but i will offer some advice. The next time you get a shiny new HTC device come to XDA and look around first (search is your best friend here) if you want to mod it. if you can't find what you're looking for request it, the people here are more than willing to help you out. there are plenty of tutorials and instructions here so that you won't screw up your device if you follow them.
If you're happy with what you paid for thats great!
Bottom line:
1. Never trust anyone with a weak handshake.
2. Don't eat the worm in a tequila bottle.
3. Never give out your IMEI number.
4. NEVER, NEVER Pay for something that is available for free.
(unless you want to donate for people's hard work here)
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This phone has obviously got **** loads of issues, if it wasent for this forum then It would have been a piece of junk.
I have hopes that HTC will bring out firmware but now with this new Nexus kicking off im asking myself what support can we expect from HTC who is now fully in joint support with Googles Android.
From a business point of view it makes sense to realise that the HD2 was in fact a failure and to offer only the bare minimum support to enable a success of the nexus one.
Just like Vodafone decided to axe the HD2 and now a nice news flash comes through that Vodafone UK will be offering the Nexus one, which just further supports my theory.
Having said that I wonder if after enough complaining i would be able to get a Nexus one as like for like replacement for my HD2.
I was firm supporter of WM but with the current situation i cannot imagine HTC being arsed about a flawed product and development for WM7 either when they just done this Android deal.
Suppose the only real problem i have with android is unable to run TOMTOM.
Lets have a banter your views are welcome.
HTC will not lay its eggs in one basket
HD2 is a flawed product?
lmao. Get a grip man.
You do know most people who post on forums, post because they are unhappy with something.
There are plenty of people out there who think the HD2 is the best phone that they've ever owned, just because they dont clog up the forum with posts on how happy they are (or because they actually RTFM) doesnt make the device a piece of junk.
Thank you
Roguexmg said:
This phone has obviously got **** loads of issues, if it wasent for this forum then It would have been a piece of junk.
I was firm supporter of WM but with the current situation i cannot imagine HTC being arsed about a flawed product and development for WM7 either when they just done this Android deal.
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What type of ****load issue are you gripping about? This piece of flawed junk can beat the ****load out of iphone anytime.
DMAND said:
You do know most people who post on forums, post because they are unhappy with something.
There are plenty of people out there who think the HD2 is the best phone that they've ever owned, just because they dont clog up the forum with posts on how happy they are (or because they actually RTFM) doesnt make the device a piece of junk.
Thank you
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well said
People that write on forums are tech savy and know whats cooking other people use it as a ****ing IPhone to show off, and cant be arsed about what it can actualy achieve.
The reception on this Phone is ****, Period! your an idiot that hasnt payed attention to it if u havent noticed. phone keeps on going should i go H no 3g no G no H no 3g no G it keeps on cycling through it like a spac when using data
The H reception is on 1 bar where with another phone on same providor its on full 5 bars.
conencting to my WIFI router i get oh waite ... 10% signal level. what does my laptop get thats in the same spot? ****ign 90% full speed.
The SMS issue where it takes ages to load messages is a FACT
SMS get stuck in the outbox and sends after x days ???!?!?!
Camera flash is OVEREXPOSED upclose night shots
All these faults has been Confirmed by other members on this forum, so dont go telling me its not a flawed product.
Edited rude name calling out, appologies.
hmm nice attitude.
seems we have another little troll.. please dont feed him
Vodafone is getting the nexus via google not via htc..they drop the hd2 because of apple request..
Roguexmg said:
This phone has obviously got **** loads of issues, if it wasent for this forum then It would have been a piece of junk.
Strange, but people who have not even heard of XDA-Developers, such as Chinese speakers in Taiwan who have the HD2 would strongly disagree with you.
I have hopes that HTC will bring out firmware but now with this new Nexus kicking off im asking myself what support can we expect from HTC who is now fully in joint support with Googles Android.
From a business point of view it makes sense to realise that the HD2 was in fact a failure and to offer only the bare minimum support to enable a success of the nexus one.
I suggest you do a search on Peter Chou's recent interviews. He is HTC's CEO. Since he has a better idea of what HTC is up to, I am inclined to believe what he says, not what you conceive to be reality.
Just like Vodafone decided to axe the HD2 and now a nice news flash comes through that Vodafone UK will be offering the Nexus one, which just further supports my theory.
Have you read any of the early reviews of the Nexus One?
Having said that I wonder if after enough complaining i would be able to get a Nexus one as like for like replacement for my HD2.
I was firm supporter of WM but with the current situation i cannot imagine HTC being arsed about a flawed product and development for WM7 either when they just done this Android deal.
Again, do a search on Peter Chou's recent interviews.
Suppose the only real problem i have with android is unable to run TOMTOM.
Lets have a banter your views are welcome.
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If you hate your HD2 so much why don't you just send it over my way.
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well said
Roguexmg said:
People that write on forums are tech savy and know whats cooking other people use it as a ****ing IPhone to show off, and cant be arsed about what it can actualy achieve.
The reception on this Phone is ****, Period! your an idiot that hasnt payed attention to it if u havent noticed. phone keeps on going should i go H no 3g no G no H no 3g no G it keeps on cycling through it like a spac when using data
The H reception is on 1 bar where with another phone on same providor its on full 5 bars.
conencting to my WIFI router i get oh waite ... 10% signal level. what does my laptop get thats in the same spot? ****ign 90% full speed.
The SMS issue where it takes ages to load messages is a FACT, once again if u havent noticed its because u have no friends and get no messages.
SMS get stuck in the outbox and sends after x days ???!?!?! once again u have no friends so u havent noticed.
Camera flash is OVEREXPOSED upclose night shots, once again sorry u have no friends so u would not have noticed once again as these features have no use to you.
All these faults has been Confirmed by other members on this forum, so dont go telling me its not a flawed product.
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Well written, Steven Paul Jobs . Yes, its been confirmed by other member. So far ONE, and counting.
There are definately issues with this phone.....T-Mobile can't be bothered to release a Rom update they say that it is undergoing thorough testing....so we will probably get it when Windows mobile 90 comes out in the year 2090.
I agree with Rougue but I don't think that name calling and offensive language solve anything
I think you should just calm down, you're entitled to your opinion but don't expect everyone to share it.
Your first post said "your views are welcome.", clearly they are not, as you can't handle them.
Request MOD lock, as this thread serves no purpose.
rlydiard said:
If you hate your HD2 so much why don't you just send it over my way.
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Why will you fix all these issues for me.
as for the rest
Yea i am p'd off because i was going to get the Samsung Omnia 2 but then saw the HTC hd2 and i realy enjoyed my HTC touch cruise. So I waited a long time, read reviews and all that changed provider to Vodafone paying top dollar even though i get 40% discount on Orange contract just to be presented a sheep in wolves clothing after extensive use and being told oh no these faults are phantom and dont exist, yea right
Thanks for the feedback im looking forward to reading CEO Peter Chou's interviews which no doubt is filled with deceit of the 9th kind.
I have a temper excuse my outbursts
HTC have been quitely making phones for many companies behind the scenes for years. Over the last few years they have (quite rightly IMHO) "come out" as a top flight device designer and fabricator. They don't stick to one operating system and I don't think ever will. What your service provider decides to do is entirely outwith the control of HTC, who, i suspect, will continue to design and sell the highest quality products in all "open source" operating systems under their own name as well as proprietary OS's for other vendors.
Have Vodafone actually supported you as a customer to the same level that HTC has to us who bought unlocked phones? For me, Vodaphone have never supported Windows Mobile properly. My Omnia only ever had 1 update from them which is why I decided to buy unlocked this time. I still have a contract with Vodafone and will get a free upgrade from my Omnia when my contract allows but no matter what I choose i do not believe that it will be supported as well as an unlocked handset.
Most devices have issues, these are released very quickly into an aggressive market. For me it is how a company responds to these things that is important. Service providers, for me, just cannot provide that support. HTC are not perfect but I chose to "early adopt". In technology we used to always say never buy version 1 of anything, always wait for services packs to come out and be implemented ina new version release. Early adopters are known to be at the bleeding edge, and this can be messy, but fun at times.
Please note that this is my opinion, stated in a respectful manner. I make no claims to speak for every HD2 user, mobile phone maker or service provider in the wordls. I speak from my personal experience. I do not republish 3rd hand gossip from other sites and pretend I have inside knowledge. My HD2 is not perfect, it's the best phone I have ever had though.
Regards.
I have had issues posted... and I fixed all of them with stuff I found here... I consider it tweaking
My flash shots are fine, WiFi is good (you wont get a better signal with the Nexus... its all HTC hardware!), NO issues with radio, I use WM sms instead of HTC... I get all my sent notifications and it ALWAYS gets sent.... I love my phone! I am also faster with Swype on my keyboard than if you gave me a ISheep to txt with....
Now, having said all that, I MAY consider buying a Nexus in the next incarnation once they offer Multitouch, a screen the size of my HD2, the same thickness of my HD2 and when even more Android apps hit the market. I am really impressed by some of the stuff Android has been coming out with and the speed of the OS (On the Snapdragon chip of course)... Qualcomm is coming out with 1.5 mobile chips soon! I can't imagine what that would do for our WM and Android devices!
Even if I bought one, I would use it as an alternative to my WM phone (HD2 for today). Its only cause I love the WM platform so much cause of the ability to tweak and ek out more performance/customization.... if you don't like that kind of thing, NEVER buy a WM phone! I also have all the software I need already for my daily use! If my foray into the Android platform keeps me happy (with alternatives to apps I am using now and newer fun stuff), I MAY consider a move....
My final word... the Nexus 1 is a fine phone it seems... however, its lacking just a little IMHO to get me to even consider it at this point... its darned close though... WM needs to buck up and wow us with WM7 or they may even lose some hardened WM users like me... maybe
Roguexmg said:
Why will you fix all these issues for me.
as for the rest
Yea i am p'd off because i was going to get the Samsung Omnia 2 but then saw the HTC hd2 and i realy enjoyed my HTC touch cruise. So I waited a long time, read reviews and all that changed provider to Vodafone paying top dollar even though i get 40% discount on Orange contract just to be presented a sheep in wolves clothing after extensive use and being told oh no these faults are phantom and dont exist, yea right
Thanks for the feedback im looking forward to reading CEO Peter Chou's interviews which no doubt is filled with deceit of the 9th kind.
I have a temper excuse my outbursts
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Perhaps you are unlucky and received a model that should have not passed QC, and it seems your carrier is not supporting you to your satisfaction.
I do suggest you just sell your HD2 and get a phone that will not make you blow your cool.
No matter what type of temper you have it is no excuse for denigrating Peter Chou's integrity.
There's always one isn't there, Mr Angry
Roguexmg said:
This phone has obviously got **** loads of issues, if it wasent for this forum then It would have been a piece of junk.
I have hopes that HTC will bring out firmware but now with this new Nexus kicking off im asking myself what support can we expect from HTC who is now fully in joint support with Googles Android.
From a business point of view it makes sense to realise that the HD2 was in fact a failure and to offer only the bare minimum support to enable a success of the nexus one.
Just like Vodafone decided to axe the HD2 and now a nice news flash comes through that Vodafone UK will be offering the Nexus one, which just further supports my theory.
Having said that I wonder if after enough complaining i would be able to get a Nexus one as like for like replacement for my HD2.
I was firm supporter of WM but with the current situation i cannot imagine HTC being arsed about a flawed product and development for WM7 either when they just done this Android deal.
Suppose the only real problem i have with android is unable to run TOMTOM.
Lets have a banter your views are welcome.
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What a load of bull! The HD2 is the BEST PHONE AT THE MOMENT! Vodafone could simply not meet the huge demands for the HD2, plus they had Apple biting their heads off cos the HD2 was going to crush Iphone sales at Voda. That is the reason why they pulled.
I have to say, I think the HD2 is the absolute best thing ever, i have had the iphone and various other htc`s and by far this is the best.
I admit i must be one of the lucky ones as i havent had a single problem so far and have customized it to my exact needs, so to me it is flawless !
I`m not geeky but i just love the way there is always something to learn and add and tweek, when i had the iphone all you had to do was wait until the next app to come out that kept you busy for the next 5 mins ? its a phone that is all colours and glitz to me, and it didnt work for what so ever and many friends have had so many problems with them its untrue. but we could be here forever battling over phones, it is totally personel preference.
but i just wanted to add my pennies worth by backing the hd2 and as stated previously most people do just post about problems they are having or had and not posting about how well things are going...
i wish you all the best with your new phone :
I don't know if this is worthy of a new thread or not, if you guys find it not to be then you can delete it. I just wanted to post this so that i can vent my anger out on Sprint and no one besides you guys at XDA would probably care. I am very upset with Sprint and all of their products that i have so far. I got into the smartphone scene with a palm and i had that for quite a while, things worked great on it. Then i made the switch to the HTC Diamond. I was excited for the phone until i got it. It had a huge battery problem, i would probably get 5 hours most on the phone, and it lagged severely. To me, that is a huge problem so if i were with Sprint and HTC i would have fixed that right away. But, alas sprint is not that kind of company, so they left it. Thanks to the developers, they fixed Sprint and HTCs problem.
I then switched to the HTC Hero, again i was very excited for this phone and i saved for quite a while to purchase it. But again, when i got it i was disappointed. The phone lagged more than i expected and again, there was a battery issue. HTC get the hint already, fix your battery scripting. So i did the most sensible thing, i rooted my phone and upgraded with developer roms because it seems developers care more than Sprint.
Now i sit here waiting for Android 2.1 which sprint promises that they will release. I hear so many dates, first one said it was suppose to be released on March 23 and now i hear April 9th. And to make matters even worse, they are now releasing 2 new phones to their lineup. I am excited for these new phones, the nexus one and the EVO, but what the heck sprint, fix your current problems!
I am very interested in the EVO, from what i read, it is suppose to have quite a few cool things. But, i am not going to let the appearance fool me, this phone seems so powerful that sprint isnt gonna be able to handle it and they will release some great looking phone with a ton of problems, and instead of fixing these problems, they'll probably just try to push another phone on us. The Evo says it will have an 8 megapixel camera, seems impressive but the Hero has a 5 megapixel camera, that honestly, is **** without some tweeking to it. So i think an 8 megapixel camera will probably be the same with no fix from sprint or htc. Next, they promise a great processor, this sounds good but to me it sounds like another phone with 5 hours of battery life. I may be wrong but so far htc's previous products are all the same in this field.
I may just ranting but i really needed to get this out, i still don't know why i stick with sprint and htc, i guess i am loyal and i have faith that one day they will listen to their customers and fix their stuff. I don't know if anyone else feels this way too but this is what i have noticed since i got onboard with htc and sprint.
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haha thats great, thanks i need that, haha. if crying gets things fixed with these companies then i am there.
I would imagine that all smartphone get terrible battery life. They are basically pocket-sized computers. It's not just HTC's. They improved the Hero a ton with the US version compared to the Euro one. Maybe switching to a non-smartphone might be your option? I don't know. I can tell you that with 2.1, our Heroes will have better battery life once we get the update. Because these leaked ROMs already do. Anyways, I don't really think Sprint is the problem with the phone. They are just the carrier minus the few apps they install. Do you live in a spot that has good coverage from Sprint? Because I will tell you this...If you have bad coverage, you won't get good battery life. Maybe switching carriers would help. Just my opinion.
-Ken
if you're not satisfied..then go get yourself an iPhone.....end of thread..
well one reason i was upset is with the diamond i had about 4 hours to 5 hours with the phone, sleep or active. I then learned about rooting the phone and i installed a rom that fixed that problem. so my guess was it was some type of scripting error that the companies just never got around to fixing. And i live in AZ, sprint and verizon have the best coverage, the rest suck out here so i wouldnt consider any of them.
What kind of battery problem are you having with the hero? I can easily get through the day on a charge most of the time.
And even when I can't, keeping a second usb cable at my office so I can plug in there every now and then isn't a big deal. I consider it more than a fair trade-off for being able to carry that much computing power in my pocket.
It wasn't all that many years ago that I owned a desktop computer that had a slower processor, less ram, less storage, crappier screen and MUCH slower internet access than what my hero has.
I really don't understand why so many people ***** about "only" one day of battery life. What's so freakin' inconvenient about having your phone plugged in while you sleep?
Hell, when I carried a Treo 650 I had to have my phone plus two spare batteries fully charged when I left the house in the morning if I expected to get through just to the end of the workday. Didn't really bother me, it's just the trade-off I had to make to have the capabilities that it gave me.
It's just basic physics. More processing power uses more electricity. More functionality means that processing power is being utilized even when you're not using the phone. That also costs electricity. Larger screen, you guessed it, needs more electricity. And yet people still demand that their phones be slim and sexy.
You want a phone that does all this cool ****? Well, then be prepared to plug it in every once in awhile. If they made these things with the ability to go 17 days between charges they'd have to be the size of a phone book to accomodate the battery.
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if you're not satisfied..then go get yourself an iPhone.....end of thread..
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No reason to be short, I am glad to hear others opinions on Sprint and HTC in general.
On another note, I could never be more satisfied with my phone, rom, battery life, stability, coverage, and rate plan.
Except Im switching to Evo. Lol!
This shows the value and worth of the developer forum. If it had not have been for the developer forums I would have stopped getting smartphones a long time ago.
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Find me one that says "would you like CHEESE with that WHINE?" Lol
Btah
Im sorry experience is so horrible. I dont reccomend an iphone, however, perhaps live with it until Evo or N1? Im quite sure whatever phone you chose will have as many bad reports as good. Keep your chin up kid, this is Android!
well with the hero i had alright battery life, i would get 8 hours to 10 hours until i rooted and switched to the roms which get me a days worth and that is more than enough for me. And i am glad opinions can be shot down with a "purchase the iphone," seems like anyones solution to anything is an iphone
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well with the hero i had alright battery life, i would get 8 hours to 10 hours until i rooted and switched to the roms which get me a days worth and that is more than enough for me. And i am glad opinions can be shot down with a "purchase the iphone," seems like anyones solution to anything is an iphone
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My friend, opinions can only be shot down if you let them. Dont feed those trolls, theyll evwntually go away.
Like I said, im sorry to hear your experience has been so bad, but I doubt youll find better.
Besides, the Hero is the hottest topic at any dinner table, with just the name alone.
"what kind of phone do you have?"
"oh, this old thing? this is the HERO!"
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well with the hero i had alright battery life, i would get 8 hours to 10 hours until i rooted and switched to the roms which get me a days worth and that is more than enough for me. And i am glad opinions can be shot down with a "purchase the iphone," seems like anyones solution to anything is an iphone
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iphone isn't a bad device, it's popular for a reason. It just wasn't for me. I've generally had good experiences with my hero. Mostly because of xda and a lot of my own work on roms. Android really is an excellent operating platform.
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Well, to be fair, it is what everything seems to get compared to.
In all honesty after having carried one for two years, I have to say it's a great phone for its target audience. It's a reasonably capable smartphone that "just works". For non-geeks who want a phone that does all the "cool stuff", I think it's a good fit.
For people like me and the others who seek out forums like this one, it's just about the most frustrating damn phone in the world, though. It sucks having all that processing power in your fingertips but not being able to utilize it fully because Apple has the iPhone ecosystem locked down so tight. Not to mention that if I wanted to write my own software for it, I had to go out and buy a Mac! I had my first basic Android app loaded and running on my hero the same night I brought it home.
As far as your frustration with Sprint and HTC being slow with updates.... Just throw a 2.1 rom from this forum on it and stop worrying. I'm running DamageControl on mine, and I can honestly say I'm not the least bit interested in the official 2.1 update from sprint. There's nothing interesting even rumored to be in it that I don't already have.
Thanks, trust me, i love the hero. And i love XDA, i enjoy coming on this website to find what cool new roms are out and testing them. I think that the EVO may be an even better dinner table discussion, i can picture it now, "hey, is that an HDMI cable input?" "Oh this old thing, yea it is" haha
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Thanks, trust me, i love the hero. And i love XDA, i enjoy coming on this website to find what cool new roms are out and testing them. I think that the EVO may be an even better dinner table discussion, i can picture it now, "hey, is that an HDMI cable input?" "Oh this old thing, yea it is" haha
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Lololololololol x1000000000000000000
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Well first I am sure Sprint is trying to work with HTC to fix all the bugs in 2.1. Other phones like Motorola Droid do not come with the sense UI, so HTC needs to have time to incorporate that. I am sure the original date may have been March 23, but like everyone knows some deadlines cant be met. We are not even supposed to know it was to be released that day or April 9. Someone leaks this information and that causes all the problems. Most of the time they dont even know a release date until all the beta testing is done. Stop paying attention to the dates people post. Plus if Sprint released this with bugs everyone would complain. i know one time with the HTC Touch Pro sprint released a ROM early and had to recall it. I dont think they want to do that sort of thing again.
For battery life, get an extended battery. The Sprint Hero uses the same has the HTC TP2 battery and they have a 2000mah battery that is the same size as stock for like $10 and its 500mah more.
As for technology, once you buy the Evo, it will be outdated just like the Hero. Thats part of technology life. be happy if you get 6 month out of your device before there is a better replacement.
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Well, to be fair, it is what everything seems to get compared to.
In all honesty after having carried one for two years, I have to say it's a great phone for its target audience. It's a reasonably capable smartphone that "just works". For non-geeks who want a phone that does all the "cool stuff", I think it's a good fit.
For people like me and the others who seek out forums like this one, it's just about the most frustrating damn phone in the world, though. It sucks having all that processing power in your fingertips but not being able to utilize it fully because Apple has the iPhone ecosystem locked down so tight. Not to mention that if I wanted to write my own software for it, I had to go out and buy a Mac! I had my first basic Android app loaded and running on my hero the same night I brought it home.
As far as your frustration with Sprint and HTC being slow with updates.... Just throw a 2.1 rom from this forum on it and stop worrying. I'm running DamageControl on mine, and I can honestly say I'm not the least bit interested in the official 2.1 update from sprint. There's nothing interesting even rumored to be in it that I don't already have.
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Amen. The only way to beat open scource, is to have created the open scource (google, thaose bastards!)
I am apparently the only one without the google sign in error on dcv1...get me my constant trackball, and ill take off and never come back!
..........until evo is released.
Who will chant it with me? C'mon, lemme hear it!
Snapdragon!
Snapdragon!
Snapdragon!
Snap...no one?
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be happy if you get 6 month out of your device before there is a better replacement.
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6 months?
I've had my hero for just over 2 weeks now, and in that time it's been officially announced that the N1 and EVO are on their way to Sprint.
I couldn't wait any longer, though. My wife and I have been doing without cell phones for awhile since we moved to a new town. I now live a 5 mile drive from even the slightest hint of an AT&T signal, not a good deal for our iPhones. I've been holding out to see what got announced this spring, but nobody was saying anything and impatience finally got the better of me and I decided the Hero would be "just fine". (Which worked out, because none of the announced phones will be on the shelf soon enough that I could have waited anyway.)
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Well first I am sure Sprint is trying to work with HTC to fix all the bugs in 2.1. Other phones like Motorola Droid do not come with the sense UI, so HTC needs to have time to incorporate that. I am sure the original date may have been March 23, but like everyone knows some deadlines cant be met. We are not even supposed to know it was to be released that day or April 9. Someone leaks this information and that causes all the problems. Most of the time they dont even know a release date until all the beta testing is done. Stop paying attention to the dates people post. Plus if Sprint released this with bugs everyone would complain. i know one time with the HTC Touch Pro sprint released a ROM early and had to recall it. I dont think they want to do that sort of thing again.
For battery life, get an extended battery. The Sprint Hero uses the same has the HTC TP2 battery and they have a 2000mah battery that is the same size as stock for like $10 and its 500mah more.
As for technology, once you buy the Evo, it will be outdated just like the Hero. Thats part of technology life. be happy if you get 6 month out of your device before there is a better replacement.
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Tenlettersandanother"+1"
-No win7 support , although even though our hardware if far supperior to the win 7 devices currently
-horrific support (HTC has to be nobel price winning at sucky support)
-battery life is amazingly bad..some members here report success with alternative chinese batterie types, but come on we paid our bottoms off for the thing we shouldnt have to bleed our eyes out on 3rd party web merchant pages
-its being discussed that we are not even going to get 6.5.3 or 6.5.5 upgrades even though omnia II and toshiba models will(or have dunno)
-millions of buggs that shouldnt be there in the first place
-lack of supported apps
-overpriced marketplace
Such a mixed feeling..I truly and deeply love the device i hold in my palm as i write this..but its like i am holding the hand of a relative in a hospital dieing..is truly HTC gonna give away the future of such a brilliant phone?have we payed 50% more of the value of the competitor's phone(iphone) price and go nowhere (while they get their free os 4 upgrade) ? i feel so decieved..i even got to thinking ways i could cheat for my warranty to get my money back..
-edit : forgot the 250ms sound delay woe issue (one of the reasons we bought this cursed phone was to watch movies in its perfect screen dammit)
You got what you paid for, the hardware is already surpassed by the Evo 4G, in a few months time it will be even farther behind, such is the way of tech. WP7 was never promised, only speculated so that is not a valid argument.
Your other reasons are otherwise sound to varying extents, but at the end of the day this is still a fantastic device, so no, I dont think anyone who bought the device and is happy should be looking for ways to get rid of it. If you dont like it, return it or sell it but it works very well for a large number of us.
So that the fact that they do not even care enough to upgrade it to something as idioticaly as simple as 6.5.3 version (hich like 40 roms in here have) doesnt make u feel they are throwing the phone support (that made me laugh) away?
And no, i do not get what i paid for..i paid nearly 800$ for this..no not even marginaly close to it.
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So that the fact that they do not even care enough to upgrade it to something as idioticaly as simple as 6.5.3 version (hich like 40 roms in here have) doesnt make u feel they are throwing the phone support (that made me laugh) away?
And no, i do not get what i paid for..i paid nearly 800$ for this..no not even marginaly close to it.
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No, I agree totally with your view of HTC support, I actually think they are the worst phone manufacturer among WM OEM's, contrary to what everyone else thinks because they like the eye-candy of Sense, which I think is utter bug-ridden rubbish.
HTC has the HD Mini out now, you would think they would be releasing 6.5.3 updates for all their phones, especially the HD2, but this is typical HTC, once a device is released the normal support life cycle is 6 months, then we are left to our own devices while they work on the next device. In the current climate, HTC is apparently focusing entirely on their android phones, so we WM users are left to look on and lament our lack of updates.
As for getting what you paid for, I guess we will have to disagree, I never expected HTC to provide an update to 6.5.3, knowing their past history and considering they never announced it. I knew I could only count on the OS they shipped the device with, and anything above that would likely come from Xda.
You have a great device there, the hardware is top notch and capable of outstanding performance, just dont look to HTC for any kind of realistic support. Xda is your friend and will give better support and performance enhancements than HTC ever has.
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-No win7 support , although even though our hardware if far supperior to the win 7 devices currently
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Win7 was *never* officially an option, only rumour. Do you buy things due to hearsay? Theres an iPhone for that.
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-horrific support (HTC has to be nobel price winning at sucky support)
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Never needed this so cannot comment - think of that what you will
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-battery life is amazingly bad..some members here report success with alternative chinese batterie types, but come on we paid our bottoms off for the thing we shouldnt have to bleed our eyes out on 3rd party web merchant pages
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I have the standard battery, it lasts between 1.5 and 3 days. Thats better than my Nokia E90 and my N80 ever was.
Not to mention the fact I have 3 email accounts checking every 15 - 30 minutes, Windows Live (hotmail in the background), at least 30 mins 3G browsing, some light games and texts + calls.
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-its being discussed that we are not even going to get 6.5.3 or 6.5.5 upgrades even though omnia II and toshiba models will(or have dunno)
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"(or have dunno)" proves that you are yet again working on rumour, why not do some research before slagging things off, eh?
Have you actually used 6.5.x? What did you think of it? How much advantage will it give you over 6.5?
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-millions of buggs that shouldnt be there in the first place
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*any* complex system will have bugs, its a given. It needs to support several hundreds of different device configurations, 3rd party applications and different personalised configs. How many bugs does Linux have, for instance?
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-lack of supported apps
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How many supported apps does the iPhone have in amongst the thousands of crap free ones?
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-overpriced marketplace
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Welcome to Microsoft.
chris2busy said:
Such a mixed feeling..I truly and deeply love the device i hold in my palm as i write this..but its like i am holding the hand of a relative in a hospital dieing..is truly HTC gonna give away the future of such a brilliant phone?have we payed 50% more of the value of the competitor's phone(iphone) price and go nowhere (while they get their free os 4 upgrade) ? i feel so decieved..i even got to thinking ways i could cheat for my warranty to get my money back..
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You seem to be stuck in a mindset which goes against that of technological advancements over the last, say, 50 years.
The computer you buy tomorrow was out of date last week, that surround sound system you've got, that's been surpassed several times since you bought it.
You do realise that the iPhone OS upgrade was to insert features that most phone companies have been producing lines of phones with for almost a decade?
Cut and Paste for instance, was first used (in a computer sense) in a Xerox environment in the 1960s, Apple's iPhone was announced in 2007. It didn't support it until an OS upgrade. The first Windows PocketPCs in the mid/late nineties had it as standard.
The iPhone's hardware is 50% of the capacity of the HD2, maybe you did get what you paid for?
Ur point seems truly valid, but dammit thats not what i signed up for..(even though it was contract reneweal bonubs 650$ bonus to get new phone) this is no way to treat a heavily paying customer..and i am not obligated to know the tradition of customer handling of each company each time i buy a phone..i know the phone is amazing , but its dead..truly dead..and mark my words when in a couple months the new candies come to surface no1 in xda will care to develop roms in this long dead phone....at least those 800$ taught me 1 thing i guess ..never buy anything from htc again
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.i know the phone is amazing , but its dead..truly dead..and mark my words when in a couple months the new candies come to surface no1 in xda will care to develop roms in this long dead phone....
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You have seen the various forums on xda supporting WinMo5 devices,haven't you?
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You have seen the various forums on xda supporting WinMo5 devices,haven't you?
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u still cant tell its not unofficial support thats my problem?really?
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Ur point seems truly valid, but dammit thats not what i signed up for..(even though it was contract reneweal bonubs 650$ bonus to get new phone) this is no way to treat a heavily paying customer..and i am not obligated to know the tradition of customer handling of each company each time i buy a phone..i know the phone is amazing , but its dead..truly dead..and mark my words when in a couple months the new candies come to surface no1 in xda will care to develop roms in this long dead phone....at least those 800$ taught me 1 thing i guess ..never buy anything from htc again
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The HD2 is far from dead.... there will be people making roms and writing apps for it for years still. It's gonna be known as the last great WinMobile phone. It will remain as the best WinMobile 6.5 device, and for that fact, I think it will last longer than most phones do.
There are still people supporting phones from 5 years ago on these forums.
What is it that you signed up for? Nothing was promised for this phone other than what came with it. HTCs customer service sucks, but they make some great devices, and with them we get XDA support here! Thats much better than the support any other oem gives, imo.
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u still cant tell its not unofficial support thats my problem?really?
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But you specifically mentioned XDA developing ROMs, now you're complaining about official support?
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But you specifically mentioned XDA developing ROMs, now you're complaining about official support?
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this was a comment because imho past devices were not as promising as the imminent are..nevertheless my problem is that i the services that came with my purchase feel like being molested..absolutely no future in it from the developer's end..i really dont know if its that typical of HTC to manage in that manner, and if it is is till do not know why this company still exist.
Got what I wanted!
I researched for months, got what I wanted, & what they said it had! Runs smooth, no bugs,"except audio booster" Would not trade for wm7, don't like how it will hold you down. I also pd alot for mine!! But I'm still sooooo happy. Love it. Sounds like you need to trade every month to try to keep up? Quig
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I paid nearly 800$ for this..no not even marginaly close to it.
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They must have seen you coming!!!
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I researched for months, got what I wanted, & what they said it had! Runs smooth, no bugs,"except audio booster" Would not trade for wm7, don't like how it will hold you down. I also pd alot for mine!! But I'm still sooooo happy. Love it. Sounds like you need to trade every month to try to keep up? Quig
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well i am happy for you in all honesty..but i ,as hundrends of other members in here still have mega issues like lip sync or ufo like battery drain that even manifacturer cant identify, sms problems, music playback lags, incredible bluetooth battery drains sluggish video recording and many more..and thats the second hd2 i get after warranty return.
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well i am happy for you in all honesty..but i ,as hundrends of other members in here still have mega issues like lip sync or ufo like battery drain that even manifacturer cant identify, sms problems, music playback lags, incredible bluetooth battery drains sluggish video recording and many more..and thats the second hd2 i get after warranty return.
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Issues mentioned in forums are negatively biased. People with problems are more likely to come here and post their problems as opposed to the many people who are not having problems.
Secondly, if you want to troll, do it on MySpace. April 2010 join date, seriously? If you don't like your phone, sell it and be done with it. Stop whining because you didn't have the common sense to read the labels on what exactly HTC is selling in the HD2. HTC is a phone manufacturer. Ergo, their job is to keep selling phones, even if it means phasing out past models. If you do not agree with this business strategy, go with another company that suits your needs.
How many 1000's are in use?
You have to realize how many of the hd2's are in use! I wish someone would count the number of people on these forums that are having problems, since they come here to get fixes. Not too many people go to forums, if everything is working ok. We have over 7000 members on htchd2forum.com the % is pretty clear, most are great!! Think about it,"if your car runs ok, do you go to dealer & tell them? If it is giving you trouble ,you call,complain, go in, get it fixed? HUH? wierd concept!! Sorry, got going,, I like this phone better than anything I've ever had!! But that is"me" not "you"! Goodluck,,Quig
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Issues mentioned in forums are negatively biased. People with problems are more likely to come here and post their problems as opposed to the many people who are not having problems.
Secondly, if you want to troll, do it on MySpace. April 2010 join date, seriously? If you don't like your phone, sell it and be done with it. Stop whining because you didn't have the common sense to read the labels on what exactly HTC is selling in the HD2. HTC is a phone manufacturer. Ergo, their job is to keep selling phones, even if it means phasing out past models. If you do not agree with this business strategy, go with another company that suits your needs.
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I GUESS I really didnt know the HTC way of thinking...apple and android seem to get it a lot different..although they state 6.x phone support is not halted it indeed is..no upgrades,no updates,no nothing...i guess i should start flashing or im stuck with the ton of problems bundled in my handheld
I dont see the point in making these kind of thread. What will u get from these?
If u have problem, then try to search and solve it.
If u dont like the phone, then try to sell it.
Is it easier to feel better than making these threads and have most of people tell that u wrong here?
As far as I see, most of people who complain about their devices are people who just joined in to ask and complain. They messed up with their phone then try to get people to help them fix it. This phone is just amazing and works out of the box.
Let's compare the ones that have problems with the ones that dont, who only focus on flashing and trying roms. Maybe at a rate of 100 and 10000?
Hey guys!
I think chris2busy actaully does like the phone, but he is probably just really fustrated with the lack of support. I mean, usually, wouldnt it make sense that if you had issues with a certain product you have purchased from a certain company, then u should get all the support from them(Mostly). But for me, this forum is my support.
Also, I too agree with the point that why on earth,after paying so much money, do we have to rely on third party apps to tackle issues that shouldnt really be there in the first place? I mean, why doesnt it just simply work right out of the box? Dont get me wrong, i love customising my phone, but these customisations should really be for "customising" our phones with what suites us & looks good in our eyes....not to fix issues that HTC/WinMo shouldve done. I still love my HD2 but these are just some things we ALL couldve done without......
Finally, No, we shouldnt be thinking of getting rid of this phone as its "Kick Ass!"
(watched the movie last night, so still in that mood!)
I do not like this moaning and groaning, It has been posted recently that it takes time to know your new device. If you're not willing to spend that time, then stop harrassing us/this forum with your "complaints". By the way: what's the point of your post anyway?
The price has now fallen to £300 in the UK. (Even the AMOLED version).
£306.60 AMOLED - http://www.prepaymania.co.uk/mobilephone/samsung-google-nexus-s-mobile-phone.html
It's not cheap enough to justify a £150 upgrade from my Desire just yet, but if it falls to £250 I think I will make the switch to a nexus s.
What do you all think?
williamj1 said:
The price has now fallen to £300 in the UK. (Even the AMOLED version).
£306.60 AMOLED - http://www.prepaymania.co.uk/mobilephone/samsung-google-nexus-s-mobile-phone.html
It's not cheap enough to justify a £150 upgrade from my Desire just yet, but if it falls to £250 I think I will make the switch to a nexus s.
What do you all think?
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Wills your as tight as a ducks ass and thats watertight;P lollol
Spend your dough, and enjoy your phone Im a student and even im no way near that tight, lollol
JD
williamj1 said:
The price has now fallen to £300 in the UK. (Even the AMOLED version).
£306.60 AMOLED - http://www.prepaymania.co.uk/mobilephone/samsung-google-nexus-s-mobile-phone.html
It's not cheap enough to justify a £150 upgrade from my Desire just yet, but if it falls to £250 I think I will make the switch to a nexus s.
What do you all think?
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And thats the s-lcd version, lollol
i9023 is slcd;P
JD
LOL! Trust you to come on and comment.
I want to buy it so bad, but I'm not going to at that price. I'd rather save for a SGS2 I was only alerting others to the deal...
And did you get yours safely and was it sealed?
williamj1 said:
LOL! Trust you to come on and comment.
I want to buy it so bad, but I'm not going to at that price. I'd rather save for a SGS2 I was only alerting others to the deal...
And did you get yours safely and was it sealed?
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Yeah it was sealed,
I sent my black one back and bought the pimped out white version by at&t, shipping as we speak... Check it out, its the one thats all white except for the screen, its the i9020a, its hot as all hell;P
But i generally dont worry about my bank balance too much, im off to do some mega shopping up town today as well, I love spending money;P
JD
JupiterDroid said:
Yeah it was sealed,
I sent my black one back and bought the pimped out white version by at&t, shipping as we speak... Check it out, its the one thats all white except for the screen, its the i9020a, its hot as all hell;P
But i generally dont worry about my bank balance too much, im off to do some mega shopping up town today as well, I love spending money;P
JD
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Lucky you! I just hope you appreciate it. Nothing gets on my nerves more when I see all these rich kids with the newest phones who are like "how do I turn it on, what's android?" ! I work my socks off to afford these things
williamj1 said:
Lucky you! I just hope you appreciate it. Nothing gets on my nerves more when I see all these rich kids with the newest phones who are like "how do I turn it on, what's android?" ! I work my socks off to afford these things
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Well im definitely not a rich kid as im studying at university for a degree in computer networking(BEng) and I will soon be a Chartered engineer(CEng) Also built themes for CM6 in my Nexus One days for the nightly ROM builds and built two custom ROM's for the HTC Desire so im not in either of the subsets you refer to;P Im just a guy that likes his phones and really like s enjoying the time he has with them.
Android and Cisco have been my world for the last year, and i have had the Desire, nexus one, desire z, desire hd, nexus x(9020t), sgsII, and now this pimped version of the nexus s
Picture of my new beast, I very much doubt if anyone in the UK has one of these darlings...
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Well im definitely not a rich kid as im studying at university for a degree in computer networking(BEng) and I will soon be a Chartered engineer(CEng) Also built themes for CM6 in my Nexus One days for the nightly ROM builds and built two custom ROM's for the HTC Desire so im not in either of the subsets you refer to;P Im just a guy that likes his phones and really like s enjoying the time he has with them.
Android and Cisco have been my world for the last year, and i have had the Desire, nexus one, desire z, desire hd, nexus x(9020t), sgsII, and now this pimped version of the nexus s
Picture of my new beast, I very much doubt if anyone in the UK has one of these darlings...
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Call me weird, but I like the black version more Never been much of a fan of white gadgets.
williamj1 said:
Call me weird, but I like the black version more Never been much of a fan of white gadgets.
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Funny enough me neither until i saw this, fantastic looking device, and as i had the all black before, this is a nice pimped up version for me SAMOLED looks beautiful with the black and white mixed And the added plesure of knowing this model is quite a rarity as not many have been produced so far, and they are not even available in the USA at the moment... So its gonna be rare as all hell here Will look even better when 3.1 drops, lollol
JD
JupiterDroid said:
Funny enough me neither until i saw this, fantastic looking device, and as i had the all black before, this is a nice pimped up version for me SAMOLED looks beautiful with the black and white mixed And the added plesure of knowing this model is quite a rarity as not many have been produced so far, and they are not even available in the USA at the moment... So its gonna be rare as all hell here Will look even better when 3.1 drops, lollol
JD
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If.... 3.1 drops
I have to stop browsing this forum. It is making me want a nexus s sooooooooo bad. But my Desire is really awesome. It is not worth the £150 just for internal memory, better games and a front facing camera. If it falls to £250 I'm in like I say. Otherwise I save for something better.
Man thats cheap, just buy it already
williamj1 said:
If.... 3.1 drops
I have to stop browsing this forum. It is making me want a nexus s sooooooooo bad. But my Desire is really awesome. It is not worth the £150 just for internal memory, better games and a front facing camera. If it falls to £250 I'm in like I say. Otherwise I save for something better.
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The Nexus S is googles developer device now, so it will drop, at the I/O everything new was shown on a Nexus S so it will definitely drop for the NS. The question mark is how long will you have to wait for 3.1 on the SGSII. Samsung dont have a good reputation with upgrading their devices to the next OS. SGS1 still has not got official gingerbread, lollol
As a computer user, networker, builder and tentative app creator, the Nexus S for me is the best phone going. And the instant and constant updates is what makes a google phone special.
Take it from a guy that has been around android for a very long time now, There are really two phones at the moment to choose from, the SGSII and the NS, i would not let money affect your decision, let what you want out of the phones direct your decision to one or the other
good luck wills,
JD
Linus82 said:
Man thats cheap, just buy it already
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lollollol,
I have seen many guys like wills on this forum before, and they cant seem to choose between the money aspect and enjoyment..,
I work on a different set of criterion, i work on the aspect that if its class, and i like it, i buy it, and enjoy it
So my advice to you wills is buy either of these beasts and enjoy it, dont let money be a factor. If money is a factor then you should not be buying high end phones because it will affect your judgement that should be based on quality
wow, that was deep
JD
Lol. It's not that.
Money is a factor to an extent. I do not have the money to just go out and buy a SGS2 new today for £500, or else I would do so.
I have to save my money before I can afford such devices. I don't chop and change between devices, I keep them for at least a year. So if I buy a nexus s now, I would be keeping it for a year. In a year, it will be forgotten and out of date. The SGS2 will not.
In a perfect world, I would buy a Nexus S now and keep it for 6 months, sell it and then buy something dual core / the nexus 3. But I cannot afford to do that.
I cannot justify buying a nexus s. I'd be spending £300 for hardly any new features. If I didn't have a desire, this would be a steal of a deal. But £150 is a lot for minor things.
I'm not even making any sense to me now. That is a load of crap ^. Simple - I want one. But I can't bring myself to spend the money I have saved on such little changes.
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Lol. It's not that.
Money is a factor to an extent. I do not have the money to just go out and buy a SGS2 new today for £500, or else I would do so.
I have to save my money before I can afford such devices. I don't chop and change between devices, I keep them for at least a year. So if I buy a nexus s now, I would be keeping it for a year. In a year, it will be forgotten and out of date. The SGS2 will not.
In a perfect world, I would buy a Nexus S now and keep it for 6 months, sell it and then buy something dual core / the nexus 3. But I cannot afford to do that.
I cannot justify buying a nexus s. I'd be spending £300 for hardly any new features. If I didn't have a desire, this would be a steal of a deal. But £150 is a lot for minor things.
I'm not even making any sense to me now. That is a load of crap ^. Simple - I want one. But I can't bring myself to spend the money I have saved on such little changes.
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You will be waiting forever then mate,
Wait for the SGS3 coming out in september/november time with a 2ghz dual core that may have 3.1 then, and you can say to yourself, i am at the bleeding edge
JD
JupiterDroid said:
You will be waiting forever then mate,
Wait for the SGS3 coming out in september/november time with a 2ghz dual core that may have 3.1 then, and you can say to yourself, i am at the bleeding edge
JD
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I will see. I might get some extra work in the next 1/2 months, so I might treat myself (especially if it falls lower). But then again, I might get even more money and treat myself to a nice new SGS2. It lacks all the dev community and custom roms etc though That could change though.
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I will see. I might get some extra work in the next 1/2 months, so I might treat myself (especially if it falls lower). But then again, I might get even more money and treat myself to a nice new SGS2. It lacks all the dev community and custom roms etc though That could change though.
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The dev community is buzzing over there, lots of people have bought it... The only problem is Samsung only give maybe 70 percent of their source code away, the other 30 percent is there own drivers so they dont have to make that public as per the GPL.
The good thing about the Nexus S is that its completly open and you will be able to run practically anything on it. Any branded Samsung device will always be better with stock roms because it has all the codecs and stuff that make it special..
I liked the SGSII, but for all its beauty I just could not get used to various things with it...
Love CM too, and that will never happen on the SGSII, and if it does it will be a retarded version due to lack of codecs and high level video recording
I appreciate your enthusiasm. But I am standing my ground. I am not paying £150 for such small improvements. If it falls to £250, I will buy it. Otherwise, I save.
(Unless I get lots of money or win the lottery).
williamj1 said:
I appreciate your enthusiasm. But I am standing my ground. I am not paying £150 for such small improvements. If it falls to £250, I will buy it. Otherwise, I save.
(Unless I get lots of money or win the lottery).
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lol,
wait a few weeks and your dreams may come true
There are NS sealed on ebay for 250 quid, buy one of them
JD
JupiterDroid said:
lol,
wait a few weeks and your dreams may come true
There are NS sealed on ebay for 250 quid, buy one of them
JD
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Find me a link. Legit sellers?
Please sign this petition to put a stop to htc and their locked bootloaders. Takes 5secs. Even if your not getting this phone you should still sign it, so this wont happen to fututure phones.
http://www.groubal.com/htc-bootloaders-and-nand/
hint...hint petitions do not work!
What is it with people and petitions? Next there will be a thread on "Lets sue HTC cause they locked it down".
Don't like it buy another phone it's just that plain and simple.
fixxxer2008 said:
hint...hint petitions do not work!
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You must not have much experience with community action/involvement. While it could be argued that petitioning alone won't work, when combined with a letter-writing campaign and townhall type meetings (like the email campaign and Facebook bombing currently going on), you have a proven recipe for getting results. The problem is getting people off their jaded asses, and involved. If it wasn't for the above strategy, the place I was married would have been closed and torn down, against the owner's wishes, 2 years ago. I'm not saying they are always gonna work, that would be a stupid thing to say, but saying they don't work at all is jaded and in blatant denial of reality.
DANG SON! 5000 sigs already? I'm kinda two-sided about petitions. A petition by itself will usually not get very far... however... if all of those people end up buying a different phone (i.e. one of the many many phones that are coming out soonish similar to the evo 3d).... HTC is going to be hurting money wise and will probably change their attitude. I myself was going to get an EVO 3d, but now am leaning towards the galaxy s2.
5000 is such a low number I doubt they would take it into consideration. I would perfer bombarding thier communication outlets and appear to look larger in numbers. Any big shot at HTC can say "Whats 5000 when we can sell 100,000+"
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hint...hint petitions do not work!
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Whether they do or not, it takes less than 5secs to sign.
Still worth a shot.
I don't think it will help much but, I still signed it.
Zabalba said:
5000 is such a low number I doubt they would take it into consideration. I would perfer bombarding thier communication outlets and appear to look larger in numbers. Any big shot at HTC can say "Whats 5000 when we can sell 100,000+"
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At $500 per phone ( that we get charged for the phone before rebates/deals/etc), 5000 is 2.5 million dollars. And yes, they'll still make more than plenty of money, but no wise company can rationalize a move that costs them 2.5 million+ dollars.
And someone can chime in that they will save money by not having to replace bricked phones... but in reality, those bricked phones get sent to htc, reset and sold as refurbished phones anyways.
Involvement is always a good thing when trying to make a change. I for one am signing.
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Vinchenzop said:
At $500 per phone ( that we get charged for the phone before rebates/deals/etc), 5000 is 2.5 million dollars. And yes, they'll still make more than plenty of money, but no wise company can rationalize a move that costs them 2.5 million+ dollars.
And someone can chime in that they will save money by not having to replace bricked phones... but in reality, those bricked phones get sent to htc, reset and sold as refurbished phones anyways.
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Somebody give this man a beer cause he is definitely
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Hehe.........
I can't wait to see the number of people complaining and signing THEN still go out and buy the phone regardless of the lock down.
Truth is they (HTC) see the complaints and they know that no matter what the majority will STILL buy the phone without any changes made. Plus there is all the free advertizing they are getting from the petitions and complaint threads that will also help their sales in the long run.
ItsLasher said:
I can't wait to see the number of people complaining and signing THEN still go out and buy the phone regardless of the lock down.
Truth is they (HTC) see the complaints and they know that no matter what the majority will STILL buy the phone without any changes made. Plus there is all the free advertizing they are getting from the petitions and complaint threads that will also help their sales in the long run.
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Are you serious? thats the dumbest statement I have seen all day things like this bring bad fame to a product and when people ask their techie friends about what phone to get do you really thing they will say get a HTC phone now?
I bought in to android for one reason: custom roms and AOSP. I stuck with HTC because I liked their products in the past, and I loved the dev community that had built up around them. I do not understand the people who bought android and don't mod it. To me, that is missing the point in its entirety. So, why the fvch would I buy a totally locked down device that I couldn't mod to my heart's content?
Vinchenzop said:
At $500 per phone ( that we get charged for the phone before rebates/deals/etc), 5000 is 2.5 million dollars. And yes, they'll still make more than plenty of money, but no wise company can rationalize a move that costs them 2.5 million+ dollars.
And someone can chime in that they will save money by not having to replace bricked phones... but in reality, those bricked phones get sent to htc, reset and sold as refurbished phones anyways.
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Please don't use logic and intelligence in our forum.
Jbcarrera said:
Are you serious? thats the dumbest statement I have seen all day things like this bring bad fame to a product and when people ask their techie friends about what phone to get do you really thing they will say get a HTC phone now?
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The number of users who use and change modded ROMs is far smaller then the number of average users. Out of all the HTC phones sold the number of users who use and change ROMs regularly is if I was to guess 3% or less.
So bad fame, good fame it doesn't matter because the companies carter to the majority and this group isn't it I'm sorry to say.
Do I like the idea of lock down? NO.
Do I understand the way of business and how things actually work? Yes.
Flame me and hotlink pictures all you want but the fact of the matter is it all boils down to money and even with out your sale or your friends sales they will still succeed due to the larger majority that doesn't mind stock.
So buy or don't buy I could careless but like I stated before out of all that sign the petition I bet there will be a HUGE number that still buy this phone regardless.
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I can't wait to see the number of people complaining and signing THEN still go out and buy the phone regardless of the lock down.
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Yeah, it's true.
Most people are wishy washy.
Let's just hope that we can change HTC's mind.
Vinchenzop said:
At $500 per phone ( that we get charged for the phone before rebates/deals/etc), 5000 is 2.5 million dollars. And yes, they'll still make more than plenty of money, but no wise company can rationalize a move that costs them 2.5 million+ dollars.
And someone can chime in that they will save money by not having to replace bricked phones... but in reality, those bricked phones get sent to htc, reset and sold as refurbished phones anyways.
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At the minimum assuming they sold 100,000+ units (which I'm sure they will surpass easily) that accounts for 5% or less as more units are sold. They are simply looking at the bottom line, like any other company. I wonder how many of those on that petition are still going to go out and buy the phone. At the time of this post they did not state if they are going to reverse their decision on it or not.
The real question is why are they locking the bootloader. You can still get tether with regular root/sideloading. The only other function I can think of currently is to keep the life of the phone in control. It sounds as if this decision was based on keeping customers purchasing newer phones with the latest and greatest os and functions. An extreme example are those still using the G1 because they can still get GB. What they did not count on was the SIZE of the backlash of high end users/dev community.