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i remember lookin through alot of web sites and reading that froyo was going to have FM Radio...now that google posted the features i dont see it... where is it!!?? did google forget lol?
It was one rumor, on one French site. From a guy who said an HTC rep told him what google was building. It wasn't very reliable, and anyone who phoned Google and HTC couldn't get the same info. Very sketchy and unreliable, but everyone ignored that because they wanted it so bad. The rumors spread all from that one post onto thousands of boss, so it only looked credible.
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i remember lookin through alot of web sites and reading that froyo was going to have FM Radio...now that google posted the features i dont see it... where is it!!?? did google forget lol?
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An FM Radio is physical internal hardware.
A new OS update can't "magically" add an FM radio to all Android phones, especially ones that don't have it inside.
As for the N1, Paul from Modaco.com is working on it and hopefully will get it fully operational soon!
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As for the N1, Paul from Modaco.com is working on it and hopefully will get it fully operational soon!
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Really?
Well, the FM radio feature in this case is very device specific. They are not going to announce that as a feature, because it is not something that affects Android as a whole.
There is still a chance that the N1 build of 2.2 will enable the functionality.
Fm radio is a waste. I've had it on 5 phones and barely used it. Now with Pandora, especially so.
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An FM Radio is physical internal hardware.
A new OS update can't "magically" add an FM radio to all Android phones, especially ones that don't have it inside.
As for the N1, Paul from Modaco.com is working on it and hopefully will get it fully operational soon!
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That means N1 DOES have FM radio internal hardware! Even if I rarely use FM radio but knowing that my dear N1 can catch some FM wave is more satisfied!
mrbkkt1 said:
Fm radio is a waste. I've had it on 5 phones and barely used it. Now with Pandora, especially so.
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Pandora doesn't work at all if you don't have cell service, whereas FM radio will often work just fine.
I don't see how having the option could hurt, especially since the N1 has the hardware already. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it, right?
The details for the N1 specific froyo update have not been shown yet, so we don't know.
What you have seen so far is just the updates to the basecode of android, not the update Google will push out for the N1. Likewise, the update for other devices will have different featuresets.
For example, expect the tethering options to be removed from basically any phone being sold through a carrier that offers tethering for a fee.
AOSP Code => Device Specific Code
At the conference => Not seen yet and will include stuff like trackball options (for N1 only)
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The details for the N1 specific froyo update have not been shown yet, so we don't know.
What you have seen so far is just the updates to the basecode of android, not the update Google will push out for the N1. Likewise, the update for other devices will have different featuresets.
For example, expect the tethering options to be removed from basically any phone being sold through a carrier that offers tethering for a fee.
AOSP Code => Device Specific Code
At the conference => Not seen yet and will include stuff like trackball options (for N1 only)
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Dead on and I was going to state that. The info on Froyo is just that Froyo, it is not the N1 that will run Froyo. So we have to wait to see if there is specific items setup for the N1 in Froyo that will not be released to any other phone.
like wireless n... which has been stated to come out on the N1, but wasn't mentioned yesterday in the keynote.
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like wireless n... which has been stated to come out on the N1, but wasn't mentioned yesterday in the keynote.
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Again yesterday they demoed "Froyo" Android 2.2 not the Nexus One. Froyo just happened to be on the N1 cause that is Googles primary phone. They only demoed stuff that would effect all phones in the industry regardless of hardware. So yea, NO specific details would be given about the Nexus One cause it wasn't about the Nexus One. So Wireless-N, FM, screen fixes, memory increases, louder speaker phone, track ball light, and so on would NOT be shown cause those are N1 ONLY not FROYO. Same reason why they demoed a 2D game instead of a 3D game, cause some phones handle 3D better then others, but 2D is just about the same across the board.
Does everyone get this now?!?!?! I hate being so direct, but....
We will know about N1 related fixes/extras in the coming weeks when they finalize the N1 Froyo ROM.
This is obvious though......
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like wireless n... which has been stated to come out on the N1, but wasn't mentioned yesterday in the keynote.
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I am waiting more on the Wireless N (since my house is all N now) more than the FM Radio.
That being said, FM Radio would not be bad either.
Talderon said:
I am waiting more on the Wireless N (since my house is all N now) more than the FM Radio.
That being said, FM Radio would not be bad either.
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According to posts on Cynogen's forum, his 5.0.6 mod already had 802.11n enabled. It's not going to say it right there on the phone mind you, but you should be able to tell by your home wifi connect.
I did note that you're unlocked but not rooted yet, so you wouldn't see it yet.
Hi, i asked this question a while ago and the only real answer was down to the phone using samsungs bluetooth stack rather than googles stack. i see they have got around the problem on some of the HTC phones....
for example would a Cyanogen rom potentially fix the issue?
is this a problem we can solve with a custom rom? or is it still more of a serious issue with the drivers still? for some reason i see some people are saying now we have clockwork recovery it may boost chances of a Cyanogem rom? why would this be?
I was just about to post a similar thread myself!
I think the problem lies in Samsung's non-support of the HID bluetooth profile, surely a dev can add this support for us? Its been done on other phones to enable wiimote support...
The addition of this would make this phone nearly perfect for me, then I could play GameBoid/PXS4Droid on TV Out with my bluetooth classic controller, which would be GAS!
This is something I'd really like to see fixed as well - I sent a support request to Samsung on Friday, I've yet to get a reply but that's not surprising considering the weekend.
glad im not the only one who wants this!
wish i knew enough about it to offer serious suggestions
I think either an official FroYo update or the unofficial Cyanogenmod will let us do this. I don't know how much of a challenge it is/would be to take the bluetooth drivers/stack out of a current Cyanogenmod ROM, and whether they would even work with the Galaxy S.
I wish to have a full bt support too keyboard,controllers,mouse etc i can't believe ios4 has keyb support and android no
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I wish to have a full bt support too keyboard,controllers,mouse etc i can't believe ios4 has keyb support and android no
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http://nexusonehacks.net/nexus-one-hacks/how-to-make-your-nexus-one-into-a-linux-computer/
and
http://nexusonehacks.net/nexus-one-hacks/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-your-nexus-oneandroid/
ios4, go suck on that! ... hid support will come, one way or another, believe me
I wish that bluetooth gps can be supported, can save a lot of battery & gain the superior accuracy of external gps
Greetings fellow Droid Incredible users. I am interested in getting some information on the possibility of us modifying the bluetooth specifically in the Sense version Roms. The reason for this inquiry is I have noticed that wiimote works with Cyanogenmod on my droid incredible confirmed today in testing. It does not on the 2.2 Froyo Sense version. I'd like to keep sense and stock but have the full bluetooth capabilities of Cyanogen. I know this is a specific issue and that loading a non HTC sense rom is a work around. How hard would this be to do? Is it even possible?
thanks for your time and happy modding. Have to say these roms are a blessing.
Might I suggest the 3.21.605.1 RUU leak?
Some people are having doubts as this will be the offial OTA to be released tomorrow, but it is, says the same software verison on the Verizon page.
Bluetooth working peachy for me!
I tried the wiimote. No dice. Cook something up and I will be grateful.
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Might I suggest the 3.21.605.1 RUU leak?
Some people are having doubts as this will be the offial OTA to be released tomorrow, but it is, says the same software verison on the Verizon page.
Bluetooth working peachy for me!
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Bluetooth works but doesn't fully support all the things it should like HID and SPP profiles. It's clear there is a difference in the bluetooth packages and I don't understand why.
xarthos said:
Bluetooth works but doesn't fully support all the things it should like HID and SPP profiles. It's clear there is a difference in the bluetooth packages and I don't understand why.
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Well since we are going THAT far lol, I know on HTC's dev website there is the 2.2 Bluez driver that you can take a look at if you have any development background.
http://developer.htc.com
HTC Incredible BlueZ Source Code (Froyo MR)
I wouldn't even know where to begin as far as that goes, hope that points you in the right direction.
I appreciate the responses guys. Keep them coming. I will be looking into a possible mod with the latest leak but a modified bluetooth stack to resemble/replicate the full functionality of the Cyanogen mod bluetooth on the Droid Incredible.
This potentially could add more functionality to bluetooth:
Connection to more bluetooth keyboards and other devices
wiimote functionality for emulators
other applications.
Bluetooth SPP and HID profiles are often used in many car types including BMW, Mercedes, Volkswagon, etc. Some people have been posting on the HTC site that they have lots of issues with bluetooth staying paired or even not pairing at all.
I believe we are working with a pre 2.1 Eclair bluetooth stack that HTC never bothered to update. Perhaps this breaks the Sense UI and they don't want to do the coding work for it work. I will continue to look for some answers.
My understanding is that there is something in Sense that does not get along with newer stacks.
Well how does the Cyanogenmod rom get the bluetooth stack working? Is it a simple file replacement or something complicated?
By not using sense. Something in the UI causes the broken bluetooth with the wiimotes.
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Well how does the Cyanogenmod rom get the bluetooth stack working? Is it a simple file replacement or something complicated?
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This is what I am curious about as well.
xarthos said:
I am interested in possibility of us modifying the bluetooth specifically in the Sense version Roms. The reason for this inquiry is I have noticed that wiimote works with Cyanogenmod on my droid incredible confirmed today in testing. It does not on the 2.2 Froyo Sense version. I'd like to keep sense and stock but have the full bluetooth capabilities of Cyanogen. I know this is a specific issue and that loading a non HTC sense rom is a work around. How hard would this be to do? Is it even possible?
thanks for your time and happy modding. Have to say these roms are a blessing.
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I'm cheerfully bumping this thread. I do no want a wiimote on my Dinc (rooted with leaked 2.2 ROM), but I do have a dire need to support Bluetooth mouse and keyboard on my Dinc.
I do appreciate sense and I have applied cyanogen on my wife's D1.. which is perfect, for being on a Moto Droid..
So I'm with xarthos... i just want full BT features on my semi-stock Dinc.
on a side note... yet another reason is the fact that the BT audio quality in sense based roms sucks...
We setup cm6 on one inc, left the other with plain sense... even my wife could tell a difference in a blind listen test in the car.
almost like comparing a 64khz mp3 to a cd... massive sound quality difference.
Xarthos,
I hear many conflicting stories on htc bluetooth.
I understand htc has an incomplete broadcom chipset bluetooth stack in some models like the incredible. But this doesn't make sense since cm6 supports bluetooth just fine.
I can't really give you any useful help.
--But I do have $25 or more for the solution you describe.. Sense with bluetooth.
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This has been a consistant test for me as I jump around between ROMS due to the fact that I like to play my DINC emulators with a WiiMote (Yes, I'm nerdy enough to carry one in my backback when I commute). It's been pretty consistant that all the Sense ROMS don't work while the Senseless roms do.
Confirmed working:
CM6
Ruby 1.1.0 and 1.1.1
Confirmed not working:
SR 3
Virt 2.6 & 2.7
Leaked 2.2
Stock 2.1
Not Tested:
SR3 Vanilla
Why we couldn't take the bluetooth stack from one of the working ones and put it on a Sense one, I don't know. I'm honestly not knowledgeable enough to even attempt it nor know anyone who has. I've actually a little surprised this subject isn't brought up more, I'm guessing most people either don't use bluetooth or it works enough for their needs.
BUMP!
Is anyone looking into porting/adapting the CM6 BT Stack for sense ROMS?
I tried messing around with it, but am still having problems... I have a semi-flashable zip in progress if anyone can help me figure out what to do next.
Okay, so the only thing that has me still thinking that WM6.5 is still superior to Android is the depressing quality of A2DP in the Android builds for the HD2.
I mean, granted it's higher quality than listening to music via the hands-free profile, but it is woefully lacking when compared to the A2DP coming from WM6.5 on my HD2.
I found a thread of Evo owners who are similarly upset over this, and there seems to be one ROM variant out there that addresses this for Evo owners, so surely this must be something that can be fixed on the ROM's for the HD2? (also, RIP Leslie Nielson)
The thread is here
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9888
Has there been any research into what (if anything) users can do to better the quality of A2DP on Android?
Yes.. thank you for sharing this issue with us.. i hope google will fix this bug.. it just gives some white-noises in a music! i can't describe it
EDIT: Check this out, someone actually found a way for it!
is this wat u mean? or im showing something off (fast forward to 1:38)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx3pdWBlZ34&feature=player_embedded#!
while reading this issue 9888.. i found out that it was fixed on CM 6.1
Can any developer take a look at this for the sense roms?
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Can any developer take a look at this for the sense roms?
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Check out this thread! Loads of us have been asking the same question for a while now. I wonder if it's fixed in Gingerbread...anyone tried it?
I have tried Cyanogen's new Gingerbread build on my HD2 and for the first time, I heard crisp, quality A2DP over my phone. It was awesome. However, I want to continue using my Froyo sense build so really would like to see a fix. It's possible....we just need a genius or 2 to work it out! I wonder if Cyanogen is contactable?
I am using the NAND stock Desire ROM on my HD2, and my AD2P is working flawlessly with my Sony Xplod unit in my car. HTC phones always worked good for me.
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On the developer site it says that the BlueZ Bluetooth stack was replaced with one developed by Google and Broadcom. I'm hoping that they implemented AVRCP 1.3 in this new stack. Has anyone tried streaming over Bluetooth to see if it streams the name of track/artist?
New Bluetooth stack
Android 4.2 introduces a new Bluetooth stack optimized for use with Android devices. The new Bluetooth stack developed in collaboration between Google and Broadcom replaces the stack based on BlueZ and provides improved compatibility and reliability.
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LucasMac said:
On the developer site it says that the BlueZ Bluetooth stack was replaced with one developed by Google and Broadcom. I'm hoping that they implemented AVRCP 1.3 in this new stack. Has anyone tried streaming over Bluetooth to see if it streams the name of track/artist?
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Subscribed. I would like to know this as well.
LucasMac said:
On the developer site it says that the BlueZ Bluetooth stack was replaced with one developed by Google and Broadcom. I'm hoping that they implemented AVRCP 1.3 in this new stack. Has anyone tried streaming over Bluetooth to see if it streams the name of track/artist?
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wasnt this possible before all my previous android phones do this so does my current S3 (on CM10).
noobdeagle said:
wasnt this possible before all my previous android phones do this so does my current S3 (on CM10).
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This functionality was added in custom roms, beginning back with CM7, and now CM10 and AOKP, among others. AOSP does not contain this ability, yet. Here's hoping to it being added in 4.2.
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wasnt this possible before all my previous android phones do this so does my current S3 (on CM10).
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Yes, but it's never been in stock.
I just updated my Galaxy Nexus on 4.2 (OTA), and unfortunately still no AVRCP 1.3 =( I hope it will be the case for an hypothetical 4.2.1...
The new Broadcom Bluetooth stack supports AVRCP 1.3, and even looks like it supports 1.4. The missing piece is the Bluetooth system app. It looks like the AVRCP extensions were added to the A2DP service before the stack update, and those pieces need to be ported to the new stack. I've started looking into it but I've got no real Android development experience. If an experienced dev were interested in this, I don't think it would be that hard.
AFAIKT there is no AVRCP at all in 4.2.x at the moment
No AVRCP 1.3
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AFAIKT there is no AVRCP at all in 4.2.x at the moment
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Hi there,
I got a Nexus 4 with stock android 4.2.2.
Skipping / Play / Pause is working on my car stereo, however no meta information is showing up on the screen.
I guess that means AVRCP 1.0 is supported, but still no AVRCP 1.3.
Does anybody have any insight on this matter how long it may take them to adopt the new broadcom (or whatever) bluetooth stack ? Would be the only reason for me to flash some custom rom, but I'm still hesitating cause the stock rom is really running great otherwise.
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Would be the only reason for me to flash some custom rom, but I'm still hesitating cause the stock rom is really running great otherwise.
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I'm in the same boat as you. I downgraded my old galaxy nexus to a 4.1.2 rom so I could have avcrp 1.3. But I don't think there's any 4.1.2 roms for nexus 4 as it started on 4.2. I do miss the metadata on my car stereo But, also like you, I'm pretty happy with stock nexus 4 rom otherwise.
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