Okay, so the only thing that has me still thinking that WM6.5 is still superior to Android is the depressing quality of A2DP in the Android builds for the HD2.
I mean, granted it's higher quality than listening to music via the hands-free profile, but it is woefully lacking when compared to the A2DP coming from WM6.5 on my HD2.
I found a thread of Evo owners who are similarly upset over this, and there seems to be one ROM variant out there that addresses this for Evo owners, so surely this must be something that can be fixed on the ROM's for the HD2? (also, RIP Leslie Nielson)
The thread is here
http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9888
Has there been any research into what (if anything) users can do to better the quality of A2DP on Android?
Yes.. thank you for sharing this issue with us.. i hope google will fix this bug.. it just gives some white-noises in a music! i can't describe it
EDIT: Check this out, someone actually found a way for it!
is this wat u mean? or im showing something off (fast forward to 1:38)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jx3pdWBlZ34&feature=player_embedded#!
while reading this issue 9888.. i found out that it was fixed on CM 6.1
Can any developer take a look at this for the sense roms?
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Can any developer take a look at this for the sense roms?
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Check out this thread! Loads of us have been asking the same question for a while now. I wonder if it's fixed in Gingerbread...anyone tried it?
I have tried Cyanogen's new Gingerbread build on my HD2 and for the first time, I heard crisp, quality A2DP over my phone. It was awesome. However, I want to continue using my Froyo sense build so really would like to see a fix. It's possible....we just need a genius or 2 to work it out! I wonder if Cyanogen is contactable?
I am using the NAND stock Desire ROM on my HD2, and my AD2P is working flawlessly with my Sony Xplod unit in my car. HTC phones always worked good for me.
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Hi, i asked this question a while ago and the only real answer was down to the phone using samsungs bluetooth stack rather than googles stack. i see they have got around the problem on some of the HTC phones....
for example would a Cyanogen rom potentially fix the issue?
is this a problem we can solve with a custom rom? or is it still more of a serious issue with the drivers still? for some reason i see some people are saying now we have clockwork recovery it may boost chances of a Cyanogem rom? why would this be?
I was just about to post a similar thread myself!
I think the problem lies in Samsung's non-support of the HID bluetooth profile, surely a dev can add this support for us? Its been done on other phones to enable wiimote support...
The addition of this would make this phone nearly perfect for me, then I could play GameBoid/PXS4Droid on TV Out with my bluetooth classic controller, which would be GAS!
This is something I'd really like to see fixed as well - I sent a support request to Samsung on Friday, I've yet to get a reply but that's not surprising considering the weekend.
glad im not the only one who wants this!
wish i knew enough about it to offer serious suggestions
I think either an official FroYo update or the unofficial Cyanogenmod will let us do this. I don't know how much of a challenge it is/would be to take the bluetooth drivers/stack out of a current Cyanogenmod ROM, and whether they would even work with the Galaxy S.
I wish to have a full bt support too keyboard,controllers,mouse etc i can't believe ios4 has keyb support and android no
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I wish to have a full bt support too keyboard,controllers,mouse etc i can't believe ios4 has keyb support and android no
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http://nexusonehacks.net/nexus-one-hacks/how-to-make-your-nexus-one-into-a-linux-computer/
and
http://nexusonehacks.net/nexus-one-hacks/how-to-install-ubuntu-on-your-nexus-oneandroid/
ios4, go suck on that! ... hid support will come, one way or another, believe me
I wish that bluetooth gps can be supported, can save a lot of battery & gain the superior accuracy of external gps
Greetings fellow Droid Incredible users. I am interested in getting some information on the possibility of us modifying the bluetooth specifically in the Sense version Roms. The reason for this inquiry is I have noticed that wiimote works with Cyanogenmod on my droid incredible confirmed today in testing. It does not on the 2.2 Froyo Sense version. I'd like to keep sense and stock but have the full bluetooth capabilities of Cyanogen. I know this is a specific issue and that loading a non HTC sense rom is a work around. How hard would this be to do? Is it even possible?
thanks for your time and happy modding. Have to say these roms are a blessing.
Might I suggest the 3.21.605.1 RUU leak?
Some people are having doubts as this will be the offial OTA to be released tomorrow, but it is, says the same software verison on the Verizon page.
Bluetooth working peachy for me!
I tried the wiimote. No dice. Cook something up and I will be grateful.
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Might I suggest the 3.21.605.1 RUU leak?
Some people are having doubts as this will be the offial OTA to be released tomorrow, but it is, says the same software verison on the Verizon page.
Bluetooth working peachy for me!
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Bluetooth works but doesn't fully support all the things it should like HID and SPP profiles. It's clear there is a difference in the bluetooth packages and I don't understand why.
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Bluetooth works but doesn't fully support all the things it should like HID and SPP profiles. It's clear there is a difference in the bluetooth packages and I don't understand why.
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Well since we are going THAT far lol, I know on HTC's dev website there is the 2.2 Bluez driver that you can take a look at if you have any development background.
http://developer.htc.com
HTC Incredible BlueZ Source Code (Froyo MR)
I wouldn't even know where to begin as far as that goes, hope that points you in the right direction.
I appreciate the responses guys. Keep them coming. I will be looking into a possible mod with the latest leak but a modified bluetooth stack to resemble/replicate the full functionality of the Cyanogen mod bluetooth on the Droid Incredible.
This potentially could add more functionality to bluetooth:
Connection to more bluetooth keyboards and other devices
wiimote functionality for emulators
other applications.
Bluetooth SPP and HID profiles are often used in many car types including BMW, Mercedes, Volkswagon, etc. Some people have been posting on the HTC site that they have lots of issues with bluetooth staying paired or even not pairing at all.
I believe we are working with a pre 2.1 Eclair bluetooth stack that HTC never bothered to update. Perhaps this breaks the Sense UI and they don't want to do the coding work for it work. I will continue to look for some answers.
My understanding is that there is something in Sense that does not get along with newer stacks.
Well how does the Cyanogenmod rom get the bluetooth stack working? Is it a simple file replacement or something complicated?
By not using sense. Something in the UI causes the broken bluetooth with the wiimotes.
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Well how does the Cyanogenmod rom get the bluetooth stack working? Is it a simple file replacement or something complicated?
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This is what I am curious about as well.
xarthos said:
I am interested in possibility of us modifying the bluetooth specifically in the Sense version Roms. The reason for this inquiry is I have noticed that wiimote works with Cyanogenmod on my droid incredible confirmed today in testing. It does not on the 2.2 Froyo Sense version. I'd like to keep sense and stock but have the full bluetooth capabilities of Cyanogen. I know this is a specific issue and that loading a non HTC sense rom is a work around. How hard would this be to do? Is it even possible?
thanks for your time and happy modding. Have to say these roms are a blessing.
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I'm cheerfully bumping this thread. I do no want a wiimote on my Dinc (rooted with leaked 2.2 ROM), but I do have a dire need to support Bluetooth mouse and keyboard on my Dinc.
I do appreciate sense and I have applied cyanogen on my wife's D1.. which is perfect, for being on a Moto Droid..
So I'm with xarthos... i just want full BT features on my semi-stock Dinc.
on a side note... yet another reason is the fact that the BT audio quality in sense based roms sucks...
We setup cm6 on one inc, left the other with plain sense... even my wife could tell a difference in a blind listen test in the car.
almost like comparing a 64khz mp3 to a cd... massive sound quality difference.
Xarthos,
I hear many conflicting stories on htc bluetooth.
I understand htc has an incomplete broadcom chipset bluetooth stack in some models like the incredible. But this doesn't make sense since cm6 supports bluetooth just fine.
I can't really give you any useful help.
--But I do have $25 or more for the solution you describe.. Sense with bluetooth.
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This has been a consistant test for me as I jump around between ROMS due to the fact that I like to play my DINC emulators with a WiiMote (Yes, I'm nerdy enough to carry one in my backback when I commute). It's been pretty consistant that all the Sense ROMS don't work while the Senseless roms do.
Confirmed working:
CM6
Ruby 1.1.0 and 1.1.1
Confirmed not working:
SR 3
Virt 2.6 & 2.7
Leaked 2.2
Stock 2.1
Not Tested:
SR3 Vanilla
Why we couldn't take the bluetooth stack from one of the working ones and put it on a Sense one, I don't know. I'm honestly not knowledgeable enough to even attempt it nor know anyone who has. I've actually a little surprised this subject isn't brought up more, I'm guessing most people either don't use bluetooth or it works enough for their needs.
BUMP!
Is anyone looking into porting/adapting the CM6 BT Stack for sense ROMS?
I tried messing around with it, but am still having problems... I have a semi-flashable zip in progress if anyone can help me figure out what to do next.
Now i've been on this forum a while tho i've not posted much thats because i actually use the search button lol
but now im just after peoples opinions.
What should i go for the Desire or the HD2 with a Froyo Port on it
Firstly im buying the phone outright no contract i prefer sim only and im used to flashing phones I've been doing my TYTN II for years now so that's not a put off in fact is it only me that gets existed when a new build comes out from the developer lol
but im more interested how the hd2 handles with android from you people that use it and batter life too i would like to know real peoples opinions on that.
anyway thanks for taking the time to read
Regards
Wappy
note: i was going for a desire but i decided to look at the builds for the HD2 and they have come along way, so its thrown in a lot of confusion again lol
I would say if android is top of your list, then go for an android device. I think the android ports on here are great, I play about with the 2.2 froyo build of darkstones, but only really to get an android fix and just because i can really lol but i still like windows 6.5 to use everyday.
There are still bugs to be ironed out and the battery life isn't great at all yet on the hd2 android builds (don't get me wrong though is brilliant whats been achieved so far!)
I would advise you to have a look at the Samsung galaxy S if your after an android device as this is sort of the closest thing to hd2 sort of layout, just not as good quality.
It is a tough one though mate because the HD2 is a cracking device to run either platform!
Guys I'm been using MDJ and MCCM Gingerbread build ,both of them had the camera running , but why so hard to get the Camcorder to function is it due to the kernel,driver or something else ... Can somebody here that can share your experience with me i want to tweak the build my self if i know where to started thanks .
Well the current Gingerbread builds are based off of the SDK tools that were released to developers. And normal builds for HD2 are either based off of Desire HD, Desire, or Nexus One (There are others but these are the main ones.). So since an actual Nexus One Gingerbread rom has not been ripped yet and ported, you don't have the camcorder function working.
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Well the current Gingerbread builds are based off of the SDK tools that were released to developers. And normal builds for HD2 are either based off of Desire HD, Desire, or Nexus One (There are others but these are the main ones.). So since an actual Nexus One Gingerbread rom has not been ripped yet and ported, you don't have the camcorder function working.
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Thanks for the feedback so that's mean no way around can make the camcorder working until the actual Gingerbread rom has posted.
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Thanks for the feedback so that's mean no way around can make the camcorder working until the actual Gingerbread rom has posted.
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It's very, very, very, highly unlikely, but Google are pretty good. You shouldn't be waiting too long.
Ok so here goes i'm thinking of working on a NAND ROM based on 2.3.1 (Gingerbread) Build: GRH78 FOR THE HTC HD2...but guess what...... i'm gonna try and throw HTC SENSE into the mix and see if i can get them to play nicely together....since this could take some time i just wanted to know if anyone is interested at all???? Just Post and ask if your interested......this ROM is going to based off ofMDJ's CyanogenMod 7 v. 2.3 with MDJ's Kernel: MDJ S10.3 OC (or whatever new Kernal MDJ releases between now and when i get this rom complete) and the Desire HD Sense including the Sense Camera...(THESE ARE MY GOALS FOR THIS ROM)I Will Be Posting Frequently Since I Will Need Testers to find all the little bugs that i miss....
( I WILL ONLY POST ROMS THAT I THINK ARE SAFE...BUT THERE IS THE CHANCE THAT IT STILL CAN BE BRICKED SO BY FLASHING MY ROM YOU KNOW THAT YOUR VOIDING YOUR WARRANTY AND I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE IF YOU BRICK YOUR DEVICE )
EDIT: Im Gonna Try My Hardest to have a Version posted so everyone can play with it by 01/15/2011 - 01/16/2011....
EDIT: I just sent a message to cortulla....mainly if he has any tips or tricks that might help out with this build....01/14/2011
EDIT: Ok I'm sorry for not posting for so long i haven't forgot about you guys...i'm still working on this rom..its harder than anticipated...plus having the free time to do it gets tricky...work is having mandatory overtime since the iphone is being released on verizon...(SCARED MUCH AT&T????)..SO JUST WANTED TO UPDATE AND SAY I DIDN'T DITCH THIS PROJECT.......02/03/2011
Thanks Everyone and remember we couldn't do any of this if it wasn't for Google, Cyanogen, Cotulla & (DFT), MDJ, Markinus, gauner1986, danij3l, gpc, LeTama, Rajko and others...and if i forgot to mention you im sorry just yell at me and i'll be sure to add you to the list =-)....
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i am interested..
that would be great if gingerbread will have sense
ive loved to run it on my hd2
Count me in as beta tester...
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That is so funny, I have been searching yesterday for something like this .
Count me in.
WTH, why not
We are always looking for something new to put in our phones
Good luck and count me in...
Santroph
Also very interested...
And I'd like to be a beta tester.
Totally interested in this. Gingerbread has come along a great length in the last copuple of days. Latest stock release dated the 14th shows working lights and usb! Would be awsome to have sense built on top!
Please work on it man
Good luck. It's almost impossible; most of sense is dependant on the HTC framework and most libraries, which are in turn interdependent with the android version they run on (2.2). You pretty much have to replace the whole build with 2.2, which, in effect, makes the build a 2.2.
It would be easier to add to 2.2 the keyboard and animations from Gingerbread, along with the launcher. It's close, but it's not really 2.3 either.
Good luck anyway.
for me it's enough to have the desire hd cam on gingerbread. will it ever be possible to provide only the hd cam tool?
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Good luck. It's almost impossible; most of sense is dependant on the HTC framework and most libraries, which are in turn interdependent with the android version they run on (2.2). You pretty much have to replace the whole build with 2.2, which, in effect, makes the build a 2.2.
It would be easier to add to 2.2 the keyboard and animations from Gingerbread, along with the launcher. It's close, but it's not really 2.3 either.
Good luck anyway.
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+1.
It's hardly possible to get sense rosie.apk (the launcher) working on stock android... (afaik nobody has done it to date)
plus I bet its impossible to do it on a different android version.
Yet I would be interested.
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for me it's enough to have the desire hd cam on gingerbread. will it ever be possible to provide only the hd cam tool?
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Why?
Use Camera 360 or a similar app. They do the same (may look worse but who cares?)
(maybe no facial recognition - yet do you really need that?)
it seems to me that Gingerbread mostly enhanced aosp anyways, it tweaked the UI and didn't really have that many enhancements.
If you could just port the Gingerbread keyboard, icon set, Nexus S LWPs, and the screen-off animation to a Sense build then you basically have it.
(may look worse but who cares?)
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yep, and that's exactly what i want: a good looking camera app. technically i'm satisfied with the gingerbread cam, but it looks awful in compare to hd cam app...
I'm dreaming of it !!!
Bring it on!
I'd love to give sense a try on Gingerbread!
2.2 Sense ?
Sense HD would be cool but I imagine more work
I'll look forward to it !
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sure man it will be revolutionary start .... good luck ...
Absolutely impossible. You need a HTC leaked ruu I tell you that. Unless you are a fremework wiz. If you are, 10-90 chance. Good luck. You may make history with it.
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"if" you're able to pull it off, I sure will try it out